« first day (2215 days earlier)      last day (2748 days later) » 

11:00 AM
Fucking containers. I still don't get it. As soon as you want to connect two containers (one running MySQL), you effectively have to be ops or devops
 
It's a 1 liner
 
@Jimbo omg... it worked! Thank youuuu <3<3<3
 
A 1 liner I don't understand ;) Mainly because I don't want to have to care about changing ports and ip's
@Schoening No problem, been there
 
@Jimbo fuck containers, use jails
 
@Jimbo check out docker compose then, you seem like the kind of guy who likes indentation based config files
 
11:02 AM
@Leigh You know me well ;-)
@Leigh Do you use docker for local dev?
 
I do
Emulating our whole stack (about 10 containers for a minimal reproduction)
 
So you have your app in one container, DB in another... do you run micro services with their own apis in individual containers as well?
 
@tereško I haven't used jails recently (and I only ever tried on OpenBSD), they were truely a pain to get set up, even worse than full chroot
 
@Leigh have you tried erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail tool
 
11:05 AM
also morning all ...
 
o/
 
@tereško Nope, I tried to do it all from vanilla command line
 
that's good for learning, but not all that fun in practice
 
@JoeWatkins why :-D
 
11:08 AM
@Jimbo here you go, docs.docker.com/compose/wordpress ;)
 
@JoeWatkins when I read the repo name I first thought about @PeeHaa … (dui => driving under influence)
 
lol
 
@Jimbo can you rename localhost:8080 (or whatever) to www.somewebsite.dev without editing your hosts file with vagrant? I heard something about that docker can do this? @Leigh
 
@bwoebi just getting to know D ...
 
@Schoening I used "Hosts Updater" plugin so that it automatically adds and removes itself from the hosts file when you run vagrant up / halt
Hold on let me find the awesome code I wrote...
 
Wes
11:09 AM
earthquake in chile. mag 6, no big damages it seems
 
@Schoening Yea docker can automatically do this
 
@Schoening Actually can't find it, but you can put some code at the top of your vagrant file that checks for the hosts updater plugin, and if it doesn't exist, installs it. Then something at the bottom that uses hosts updater to automatically update your hosts file. Not sure if this is what you want, but it's worth a google as I found it useful
 
@Jimbo very nice :) Thanks!
 
@Jimbo How long does it take you to fire up a new app instance with vagrant?
 
@Leigh Ages because I need to write the VagrantFile and understand it? Is that what you're looking for?
 
11:20 AM
No
I was expecting you to come back with like 5 minutes or something
So I could say "5 minutes longer than using containers then" :P
 
My opinion is that Vagrant is a tool helping speed up what developers already do, and containers are definitely more an ops tool
But I will look into it again
I just like to understand exactly what I'm using, and there's a lot of magic with docker
 
Anonymous
stahp
 
Bonus points if you read it in sean's voice
 
Uhh, did everyone else get first email that Dan replied to on internals? externals.io/thread/453
I only got his reply. First one not in spam or anything
 
11:35 AM
@Leigh Gmail says no, but it's not unusual for internals mails to arrive out of order for me.
 
Anonymous
amazing
 
I think I'll go for DO for my file storage
they have a fixed monthy price.
This will prevent me high pricing when I have no clue about it
 
Really true @Sean lol
 
when i calculate the price they have with the bandwith compared with rackspace and amazon they are cheaper
 
Wes
11:55 AM
not true anymore @Sean these days i think either safari or firefox are the new msie :B
 
@Wes That's true, I have received a lot of grief from FF recently.
 
@jimbo
@Jimbo while its interesting to understand all things you work with, its also interesting to abstract the knowledge.
 
Anyone sees disadvantages of using DO as just a 'fileserver' ? If I calculate it right they give me for $20 [2gb memory, 2core processor, 40gb ssd disk and 3TB transfer. )
Where Rackspaces ask: 0.08GB === 3000 x 0.08 = 240 dollar. The + is they use Emakai -CDN...
I would be very stupid to pick that option of Rackspace just for storing files right?
 
@Duikboot $20 per what? Month? Year?
 
$month
 
12:10 PM
You can get unlimited transfer and more diskspace for less than that
Do you need dedicated hardware, or is shared fine?
 
Doesn't matter. Needs to be fast uptime needs to be as 'high' as possible. CDN should be great.
Those files will be delivered from France to Australia,...
 
https://www.soyoustart.com/en/offers/arm-2t.xml
Server in france
 
>< That sentence was really bad written.
I just ment to say files should be accesible all over the world fast.
 
you should choose a server that its in a strategic location between the intended paths. if its across the globe, then a cdn that replicates files among various servers would be your option. but it comes at highly costs
 
But 20 dollar is not that much
is fine
240 dollar is too much
 
12:25 PM
Americans: If you are reading this and you haven't voted, stop lounging around on the internet go and do it now.
7
lolflags
 
Anonymous
that got flagged ?
 
Either they were flagging "piss" or the concept of democracy is offensive or spam, I guess
 
piss is offensive
 
Where does Jeeves get his WOTD?
 
dictionary.com?
I think
@MadaraUchiha lol tnx for edit <3
 
12:45 PM
@leo_ap No it is not
 
@leo_ap Are you disgusted by yourself every time you go to the toilet?
 
@leo_ap I feel my knowledge is abstracted away enough through the use of my computer, operating system, libraries and programming languages of choice all written in C :P
 
@Leigh I am. Catholic guilt.
I cannot believe it has take me nearly 32 years to notice that the word "catholic" looks like it describes a person who is addicted to cats.
2
 
32? Holy crap
 
Yes yes I'm old. Deal with it.
 
12:50 PM
@DaveRandom lol
 
@Leigh no, but the term 'piss' as it was applied, is offensive
 
@leo_ap No it is not
 
@p
@PeeHaa why not?
 
Stop being offended by everything and your shadow
 
Boo!
 
12:53 PM
@PeeHaa well, if I literally piss on the urn, that would be offensive?
 
Depends whether my mother is it in
If not I don't care what you use as a toilet
 
wow that's a bit dark even for #11
 
:P
 
s/dark/yellow
 
@DaveRandom tztz :-P
@DaveRandom Uh, I think he means that 32 years is quite fast :-P
 
12:57 PM
@bwoebi can't you just nominate yourself for #Mod2016?
 
@PeeHaa Why shall I?
 
Because the current list is meh
 
And I would be less meh than these on the list?
 
Yes. That's how bad it is imo :P
 
@PeeHaa Well, Magisch is on that list
So it cannot be that meh ^^
 
1:00 PM
There are 3 positions
 
@PeeHaa also, why don't you nominate yourself instead?
 
>
Noooope thanks. I don't think a drunk monkey as a mod is a good idea :P
@DaveRandom BAM!
 
@PeeHaa You're sober often enough.
 
E_LIES
 
1:01 PM
That is like awesome on multiple levels @DaveRandom
 
good enough mods for me on the list
I am somewhat tempted to throw in my hat again
but nah
 
Do it!
 
@DaveRandom CU in the NT??
 
30 secs ago, by Gordon
but nah
 
lol bob
You're such an innocent kid
 
1:03 PM
@bwoebi "See you in the Northern Territories"
 
@DaveRandom ah, that's what the abbreviations mean
@PeeHaa I got the joke… I just was asking what the actual meaning was.
 
booo twas more funny the other way
 
lol
@Gordon Why nah?
 
@bwoebi because I know it wont be done with 30 minutes a day
 
@Gordon You don't have the time?
 
1:05 PM
@bwoebi right
 
But TBH that's also why I'm not nominating myself either… I mean… a diamond would be nice, but … responsibilities.
 
Since everyon else talks about non coding related bs in here, Im gonna add my own
If superbowl commercials are expensive, how much do you think they are during presidential election nights?
#Betchaneverthoughtofthat
 
Hi yo!
 
You mean like tonight or in the run-up when the candidates want to buy them?
 
Tonite
 
1:08 PM
I would assume they would be cheaper tonight
 
Do businesses want theirs names associated with either of them?
I would assume a lot cheaper
 
Dunno though, hard to say
 
Good point Peehaa
 
I would expect the viewing to go down but maybe it would actually go up
I wonder if I could pay for, like, 5 seconds of airtime
 
I dunno on pricing though, nor whether we'll even see many ads for daily products
 
1:10 PM
@DaveRandom lol
 
And just put #PeeHaasMother on the screen in a <blink>
 
5 Million for 30 seconds of superbowl
 
Buy some frames of one of your (in)famous photos
 
@DaveRandom depends on how close it is…
@Stuart uh, I'd have to like sell everything I'm ever going to inherit in my life for that ^^
 
I think EVERYONE's TV is gonna be on NBC / ABC news "Special Report" tonite
and ads... (If they have any) I think would be insanely expensive
 
1:12 PM
That will be soooooooo boring
 
@Stuart Who's EVERYONE?
 
Everyone
 
Any "live" TV news is dull as shit because things just don't happen that quickly IRL
and when they do happen that quickly, it's all over before the news gets there
 
True
 
@Stuart Then your thinking is flawed. :P
 
1:13 PM
inb4 reporters standing outside random polling station x speaking about the same random crap for 3 hours to fill the time
 
On the abc news app you can watch voters voting or … an alpaca ranch cam. https://t.co/KThQ0SrMAG
 
hehe
 
PeeHaa that's got to be the boring part but when the winner is decided I suspect there'd be a lot of viewers at that time
Ho hum...
until then
 
BTW @Gordon what is your shortlist of the current nominees?
 
@PeeHaa well there's a complete absence of facts, which fits well with the general theme of western politics in general right now, so on some deep meta level it's technically a superb commentary, and then on some meta above below that it's satire.
 
1:18 PM
@PeeHaa anyone with at least 37/40
 
Imo it's just boring as shit. Looking at some guy/gal talk into a mic about nothing
@Gordon I didn't know their eye vision mattered?
 
@PeeHaa haha. that was funny :D
 
dammit I was trying to get to that one but I just couldn't get away from bra sizes, and I knew that was wrong but then I was fixated on bras
 
I was about to say that didn't come out as english. Glad it worked out either way :P
@DaveRandom lol,
trailing comma for extra tension
 
1:21 PM
That's an insult to @FlorianMargaine
 
I laugh in the face of @FlorianMargaine
bwahahahaha!
 
here, have a closing parens: )
 
Much better
 
And yet another one, just to cause a syntax error: )
 
aahhhhh I can't close it
 
@DaveRandom Blocked: Forbidden Category "Intimate Apparel/Swimsuit" This firewall sucks.
 
lol
 
@Sean lolwut
 
Also tell the person in charge to stop limiting developers internet
 
LOL, thanks
 
1:34 PM
ftr, no swimsuits were harmed in the making of that image
 
@PeeHaa s/developers/developer's
 
Unsure whether any cats were harmed
 
yes that one
 
developer's
 
ugh that one indeed
developers their
was what I actually meant
 
1:35 PM
dev'elope'rs
 
@DaveRandom #grammerNazi
 
Not sure if serious or trolling
 
do'valu'parses
dddddddddddddddddddd'developer's's is the one that's technically correct here
 
I think it's broken. Somebody please reset the dave
 
Actually tbf @Archer's first correction was the correct correction
 
1:38 PM
\\o//
 
@DaveRandom No it was not. I was just talking just about sean :P
just
 
also, would I have to re-build php for installing the mysql driver for PDO?
 
Anonymous
ugh
 
Yes I know. That face right? ugh
 
Anonymous
Broadly, does 25k sound high for a junior role?
 
Anonymous
1:41 PM
I'm so fucking done with these bastard recruiters
 
Anonymous
!!dad
 
Why can't you hear a pterodactyl go to the bathroom? Because the pee is silent
 
Anonymous
thanks.
 
:p
 
@PeeHaa what's wrong with "your" then?
 
1:42 PM
^
 
@DaveRandom you're*
 
> Also tell the person in charge to stop limiting you are internet
nope, doesn't seem right somehow
at best it's a run-on sentence
@JayIsTooCommon where? (geographically)
 
Anonymous
Devon
 
:P
 
Oh then I have no idea
 
1:44 PM
@JayIsTooCommon the adult entertainer?
 
No, it's just down the road from Heaven
I believe it's quite nice
I also understand that everyone there knows how they make ambrosia products so creamy
 
Anonymous
@Gordon I presume this is an old man thing..
 
Or German. I also don't know it
 
@JayIsTooCommon it's a middle aged she
So I bought a Withings Thermo last month. It's a clinical thermometer that can measure temperature without body contact. I bought it for the son, because we all know measuring body heat is awful. It works. Actually it works so good that he will now start to cry when we DON'T measure his temperature.
 
@bwoebi why did you voted "No" do you think it's useless for community?
 
Anonymous
1:59 PM
@Gordon How does it work?
 
I actually never had any issue with the in-ear thing, for the record
that does look cool though
 
Anonymous
noice
 
@DaveRandom afaik measuring in-ear isn't as accurate
I still have to do a self test with our old regular thermometer to compare against the thermo
 
@brzuchal I do not consider it useful … it feels just about as generic as no type.
 
2:04 PM
@DaveRandom it looking cool is the problem. the son loves it. when we measure his temp, we will also need to measure ours. multiple times.
 
those use cases are not convincing ?
 
@Gordon obviously by "cool" I meant "potentially good and useful" rather than stylish or whatever :-P
 
Apple people will LOVE it
 
I can't speak for accuracy but I do know that being a quarter of a degree out wouldn't have affected me, because generally it's either normal or obviously not normal, like 39+
 
@DaveRandom I like the no contact approach. it works really well. not sure I need the wifi and app
 
2:07 PM
Wait is it another loliot device?
 
@brzuchal not quite. You have a lot of examples revolving around typos… Also your service container example should rather accept some Interface
 
@DaveRandom yepp, you can sync any taken temps with an app
 
> [...] and will sync via Bluetooth if Wi-Fi is not available.
then why bother with the WiFi support at all? :-/
 
updates I guess
 
I may declare war on 802.11 and run for office on that basis
 
2:09 PM
@DaveRandom Because how would you be connected to the web otherwise
 
@bwoebi thanks for the answer, I havent seen any container requiring an Interface, it would rather be an empty interface just for pro, services are vary
 
@DaveRandom \o/
 
heatmaps ftw!
 
@brzuchal for services… Well, for DI, ok.
 
for serializers also requiring an Interface could be quite strange, if I want to serialize object and have for. eg JMS/Serializer i would need then to implement also an empty interface just for pro in my objects which really doesn't need it
 
2:12 PM
@brzuchal no. but a serializer doesn't serialize only objects typically
 
yes, that's true
but is not for hydrators :D
 
hydrators are anyway dark magic, and they still cannot hydrate everything
 
they tend to hydrate map into objects of various types
 
they still need finer restrictions on what they accept exactly
@brzuchal but in general, there's not much use for it.
 
generally the return objects, there are many ways of hydrating, their type could be even in serialized map like putting an event in event sourced system into a queue, then grab the event in worker process hydrate to object and put it on some EventBus
yes - not much
 
2:15 PM
@brzuchal Hydrator
 
for developers
but usefull for library developers
@PeeHaa I wonder why they are afraid of onion ;P
 
lol
 
And usually object typehints do not accept everything There are still classes of disallowed objects (e.g. only userland objects, only constructable objects, etc.)
 
well, yes it's not so common usage as string, integer, float, bool, and array
but may be quite more usefull than resource typehint :)
 
2:18 PM
@PeeHaa Nice to see we have our priorities straight
 
ikr :P
 
@brzuchal about just as useful…
 
Anonymous
They're blaming brexit for that too, right ?
 
Brexit is to blame for LITERALLY EVERYTHING BAD THAT IS HAPPENING NOW AND FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES
Except the Toblerone thing, that's @PeeHaa's fault.
 
@DaveRandom the really important things are always @PeeHaa fault
 
2:27 PM
@bwoebi Are you implying I am @PeeHaa's fault?
 
He said important, not impotent
2
 
@littlepootis Are you implying you're important?
 
/hides
 
evenin
 
2:30 PM
\O
 
2:44 PM
> In Simple language Open closed design principles says that new functionality should be added by introducing new classes, methods or fields instead of modifying already tried and tested code.
Fact or fiction? GO
 
It says Simple. So it's probably bullshit
 
@Jimbo as I see it, OCP mostly applied to shit like "hardcoded configuration strings"
it does not mean that you should never refactor or improve code
@Jimbo bottom line: fiction
 
veto
 
@Gordon a?
 

« first day (2215 days earlier)      last day (2748 days later) »