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1:03 PM
@BenFortune what did you use to read the image colours for your media center
node?
 
1:17 PM
 
@Luggage ew why do you live in Butthole MD?
 
Historical reasons
 
You have histories with buttholes?
Niceeee
lol I'm tempted to joke apply to Imgur for their senior software engineer position
They have an open slot, and aside from 6 years experience I'm semi-qualified
 
@SterlingArcher Then you can #makeimgurgreatagain
 
Your mum has an open slot too. Your point?
 
1:25 PM
@KendallFrey @rlemon the end of pokemon
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Just read it all
 
Was that not magical?
 
Yes
 
A good read
 
@SterlingArcher WE ARE HERE TO VAMP NOT TO TELL JOKES
/flag /flag /flag
 
1:30 PM
triggered
 
@SterlingArcher The theory is big. The guys made 2 videos of 40+ minutes, plus one of 20 minutes and are working on a 3rd one.
 
Cmon doit. Doit I want you to flag me doit. CMON DO IT FLAG ME! FLAG ME!
 
Hello everyone, I am trying to create a pseudo "google-earth" zoom in effect on a picture.
could someone give me some recommendations on how to do this?
 
you'll have to make the 'tiles' for the image at different zoom levels, but that will take care of the client-side.
 
1:35 PM
Only works if you're not using your pi as the media centre though
 
I don't have a fancy way to intercept the feed, so I was going to build a nwjs / electron app and have it play / monitor the video
then use canvas to read the images
SUPER crappy
 
@Luggage thanks looking at it right now.
 
I use a HDMI splitter, HDMI to RCA converter then a cheap RCA recorder thingy
 
it would kinda work because it wouldn't be my main tv, rather a 'bar tv' mounted in my bar area :)
 
Is it going to be fast enough?
 
1:38 PM
dunno
gonna start writing tests soon
If node isn't fast enough I can do it in Python
if Python isn't fast enough I can look for someone elses project :D
 
Pypy maybe
 
reaktor.com/blog/… check out this sexy beast
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cc @BenjaminGruenbaum :D
 
@Luggage I am looking for some jQuery examples. Any idea's?
Most of these seem to use JSON or something like that.
 
Like I said, hyperion works perfectly but it depends on external input
 
I laughed
 
1:42 PM
@rlemon nice
 
@trilolil no. you can search for a jquery wrapper, but jquery is just an out-dated tool to make modifying a web page simpler and it doesn't do anythign any more. You asking for "a jquery example" tells me you only know how to glue together other peoples code, and I am not going to write anything for you.
 
@rlemon I would have never though to use this[index] = fn over an array
 
@BenFortune well right now I'm going to test the canvas route -- if nothing else I might be able to make some cool effects for like a live picture frame
 
That may have sounded offensive, but you are basically asking for a line of code you can past into your app and magically do what you want
 
@SterlingArcher I suppose it makes sense for js, because the arrays are just hashmaps, so there is less overhead to skip the array construct
 
1:43 PM
What about conflicts?
 
that is why he keeps a running index
 
@Luggage no I am not asking you to write me anything. I am an embedded software developper in aerospace engineering, with basic web dev skills. So yes I am not an expert in that kind of stuff...
 
what makes you thing jQuery is out dated?
 
experience.
jquery is from a time when browsers were different. It supplied a common api. Browsers now HAVE a common aPi and it's usually not more difficult to use than jquery
 
1:45 PM
jQuery is still relevant today
 
fwiw if a shop wanted to spin up their own DOM abstraction / utilities I would suggest use jQuery.
free support
 
For most websites.
 
however if you don't need the abstraction, fuck it.
 
@littlepootis shh, you aren't helping. He asked for a deep zoom tool, but then asked for "a jquery example"
 
What if we're all AI NPCs in a giant video game, and Hitler was so terrible he lost on the first level?
 
1:45 PM
that's.. bad.. yeah.
Why would you use jQuery for that?
 
@KendallFrey that would make him the leroy jenkins of irl?
 
jQuery is relevant for cross-browser compatibility on more legacy browsers
 
ran in guns blazing, got some quick kills, ultimately died before the real mission started?
 
Nit
@KendallFrey If nothing else, he at least got a silver medal in WW2.
 
I'm pragmatic with jquery and even use it myself. This is one of those times when jQuery entered the room when it's not wanted
 
1:47 PM
@Luggage Stop messing with me. Fuck that. I am just trying to learn something.
I don't even know what is funny about that.
 
@SterlingArcher like what browser? ie9? nah..
do you support older?
 
At my old job we had to support IE6,7,8 so jQuery helped there
 
@rlemon yeah, Petka showed me - there are two articles actually that's the second one.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Great! Thanks
 
@trilolil sorry if I came off strongly, but you don't use jquery to use other libraries. That deep zoom tool does it's job. For all I know it uses jquert internally, but .. it's jsut the wrong approach to want to wrap any JS in jquery
 
1:49 PM
I told him to ask for a raise @rlemon :D
@rlemon you have to photoshop it
 
does he have a patreon ?
I feel like more library devs should have patreon accounts
they've indirectly made us all mad $$
 
@rlemon i.imgur.com/48x3Fn2.png would you ever do this for me?
 
He doesn't need mad $$, he just needs to make more he's not looking for charity or funding
 
some have donate buttons but I suspect that almost no one ever does
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yea, it isn't "charity", it is payment for work done. that's why I like patreon.
 
1:50 PM
isn't everything on the internet free? :)
 
@rlemon hmm, I don't think he'll like it to be honest.
Send him Pizza if you want him to like it.
 
@SterlingArcher yes
 
ayyyy o/
 
I'd love to make a living just off things I released open source, other people found helpful, and opted to throw a little dough my way
 
but bro, you don't need to catfish with my pics. I can just photoshop out your chick-brows
 
1:51 PM
that would be satisfying
 
The eyebrows are what get the ladies brah
 
@Luggage not if comcast is your internet provider
 
They are not.
 
Nit
@Luggage There are people who do get paid like that, essentially
 
@Nit example?
 
1:52 PM
@Luggage tbh I don't know how to use/implement the stuff you sent. As mentionned I already have an image map with code etc... I'd like to start with easier stuff and once the basic stuff, that I am familiar with, works I'll upgrade to something else.
 
Nit
@Luggage Vue's author works at a company that essentially pays him to keep working on Vue. He does other things too, but that's his main role.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum but what do?
I'm blanking on scenes
 
@trilolil you supply it with info on where to find image tiles. It handles selecting the ones at the right zoom level, pannign around, etc. You mentioned google maps, so I thought you wanted "deep zoom"
 
@rlemon hmm, change the phone for a beer, put a J and sunglasses on him, and make him a rapper.
Title it "Bluebird: Promises from da hood"
 
Nit
If I'm not mistaken he also has a patreon link somewhere, but I don't know if that makes anything
 
1:54 PM
Dumb idea :D
 
yea.. it's usually a company that hires you.. not just other davs throwing you cash
 
Nit
@Luggage I don't see the difference
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes lame, but I will do it just for you
typo and wrong screen
 
@rlemon or do a better one.
 
1:54 PM
because when you work for the man.. you work for the man
 
Nit
That's complete nonsense
 
Anyone here that has worked with Parse who can help me with trying to push data from Parse to Google Analytics through javascript?
 
It's not nonsense. There is a difference between making something you want, then reaping a reward when others find it useful and being paid to do a job by an employer
 
I contract for "The Man" does that count?
 
Though, traditional employment can be rewarding.. not saying it can't.
 
Nit
1:57 PM
Working for a company comes in many shapes and sizes, just like companies do. The claim that working for a company is somehow inherently evil is just as nonsense as your claim that jQuery is obsolete.
 
I didn't say inherently evil..
also my jquery claim is accurate. There is more nuance to my arguments than you like to admit
I worked for a company before and will again. I use jquery TODAY.
 
My company doesn't use jQuery thank god
 
Nit
The whole problem is you make your claims as absolute and only come to say there's more to it than that when someone calls you out on it
 
But.. if I find some JS that does what I want, my first instinct isn't to see how I can add jquery to it.
See that differnce?
 
capabilities.forEach(function(list) {
	if (typeof list === "object") {
		generateSubList(list);
	} else {
		generateList(list);
	}
});
I feel like using typeof isn't good
 
Nit
1:59 PM
I don't see how your instincts are related at all
 
None of my claims have been absolute. I pointed out a specific case earlier where jquery offered no benefit and also said that i would prefer to make random money of personal projects than to work an 8-5 job.
You are the one that says that I said "all companies are evil".
 
Nit
That's essentially what your "working for the man" comment says
 
You stuff words in my mouth, then say that I'm too hardline.
OK. I'll reframe from using any colorful expressions in the future.
 
@SterlingArcher It's fine. It's all we have in JS
 
While you're reframing shit, I have some pictures I need framed, and my dining room could use some too.
 
2:02 PM
yea.. that might have been the wrong word.. not sure.
 
@SterlingArcher use instanceof while you can, typeof otherwise
 
@Luggage refrain
 
lol that ^
 
yea, ty.
turns out I don't type that word very often. :)
 
It's ok, there's many words I can't spell right
Like for 25 years I thought Viola! was spelled Wallah!
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2:03 PM
yeah, you start a conversation and voila, another word Sterling can't spell
 
:)
 
@ssube god I hate you
 
@SterlingArcher It's so funny that you think you know how to spell it now
5
 
@SterlingArcher I know you do babe
 
2:04 PM
omg fuck are you kidding me
 
Hahahaha, that's brilliant
 
Voila? That's bullshit
!!afk I give up
 
You never clued in to the small violin jokes until now?
 
NO I DID NOT KENDALL
 
Nit
This is a viola
 
2:05 PM
lol...........
@Nit You don't usually go Viola!
 
@SterlingArcher You make me laugh
 
He's probably probably talking about.. Voila!
Did you voila!?
 
Nit
Unless you're a masterful musician, asking your servant to bring forth your instrument
 
2:06 PM
fuck
 
@rlemon lmao
 
inb4 Sterling goes for a biobreak and rages on the tiolet
 
French is so hard.
 
2:08 PM
!!s/French//
 
@rlemon is so hard. (source)
 
/me winks.
 
hello all, how do i master javascript? asking for recommendations..
 
@learningjavascriptks Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@learningjavascriptks what is your current programming knowledge?
do you know any other languages?
 
Jes
2:09 PM
need help with regex ..
to parse a log string
 
@learningjavascriptks You just open your dev console and shout "Viola! I've mastered JavaScript"
 
html and css, am doing free code camp while reading books as reference, what are best resources 2016++?
 
uhh, "best" is going to be subjective -- I'd start by going here: stackoverflow.com/tags/javascript/info and scrolling down to "learning javascript"
 
And then you end up waking your girlfriend Viola up
 
Nit
@learningjavascriptks Somewhere down the road, read github.com/getify/You-Dont-Know-JS
 
2:11 PM
^ that is in the "learning javascript" list
 
learn by making things. pick a small project that you can complete.
 
or 75 projects that you can get to 75% completion
like the rest of us
 
if we're lucky
 
uhg, when I sit my back hurts.. when I stand my back hurts. try to keep moving so it won't stiffen up, hurts.
can't win :(
 
@KendallFrey close lol I was on the phone with a client and almost said "oh for fucks sake" to him
 
2:13 PM
Was it Joe Biden?
 
thanks all i already bookmarked the links, anyway, is Secrets of JavaScript ninja by john resig still relevant now?
 
@learningjavascriptks you don't master JavaScript. You just do a little better every time..
 
@learningjavascriptks I'd sooner read HTML Unleashed by Simon Sarris
 
@SterlingArcher don't get voilent with the clients
3
 
fuck you
 
Nit
2:13 PM
@rlemon Work out?
 
Nit
@KendallFrey violaent*
 
God dammit this is going to haunt me for months
 
@Loktar Huh, interesting. It's definitely right though, it's skewed due to all the people applying directly.
 
Javascript masters you. Soon you'll be taking orders from it like "use babel" and "hey.. decorators look nice.."
 
2:14 PM
Ohh yay my bear coat shipped
 
@SterlingArcher I shall ensure it
 
@Nit I've got scoliosis and triggered it putting shingles on my shed
 
ok now brb
!!afk vape
 
!!afk ^ and sending @Sterling snapchats
 
oh dudes, @SterlingArcher and @rlemon, either of you seen/used an Aspire cleito tank?
 
2:16 PM
@ssube I have, they're alright
I've got a Smok TFV4 now
 
@BenFortune My roommate and the girl he's been hanging out with use those, although they usually have the V6 or V8. Not a fan.
The guy at the store suggested one, but the cleito is a nice halfway between the kanger and the smok ones.
 
Got the H-priv 220 too, pretty dumb you can't charge it through the micro usb
 
Looks really pretty too, all shiny silver with the space skin.
@BenFortune I have an RX200 and you can't charge it that way. USB just can't push enough juice for 3 batteries.
 
then.. what is the usb port for?
 
firmware updates?
 
2:19 PM
@Luggage Firmware
Wow, that thing looks huge
 
ohh.. i thought we were talking about vaping things..
 
We are :D
 
there was a rev for mine when I got it that bumped it to 200 or something
@BenFortune it's not as big as it looks, but it is big.
 
oh. o_o
 
220w on 2 batteries isn't that bad. I never run it above 60 though
 
2:20 PM
@ssube I have one
 
I love the trigger on mine too
 
coils are good for about 3 days
 
hello all, how long did you learn javascript? like advance techniques?
 
many years
 
@learningjavascriptks 20 years of trial and error
but, that isn't to say it would take 20 years
2 months is probably enough with the resources today
 
2:20 PM
I have a "memory mode" on the h-priv and I don't really get what it does
 
@ssube I'm not big on aspire tanks. They're a bitch to open up. I have a Crown tank, and I love it
 
@BenFortune resistance and settings
 
@ssube do you make your own coils?
drip? or are you tank only
 
@SterlingArcher really? One of my kanger tanks is impossible to open, which is part of why I replaced it.
 
That's the reason I didn't get a Kanger
 
2:21 PM
@rlemon not yet, just been paying the couple dollars a month for new ones
 
tanks become an issue to open when you don't clean them properlly
 
I have a Praxis mod with a crown tank and it's dank
 
@ssube Oh, it just saves them?
 
the juice acts as a glue
soak them in warm water.
 
@learningjavascriptks Trust me, you'll learn them gradually.
 
2:22 PM
@rlemon mine is just a bad tank, nothing fits quite right
 
Few years ago, I was a noob.
 
the airflow ring won't spin
 
I'm still a noob.
 
So easy to refill the tfv's
 
@ssube either gunked up or too tight due to a drop maybe
 
Jes
2:22 PM
what is the regex to extract Accept and its value from
'X-Forwarded-For':['192.168.110.42:35952'] 'Accept':['application/json, application/*+json']
 
I've got like 30 attys
 
@rlemon nah, was like that out of the box
 
I went on a little bit of an overkill when I started
@ssube cheap clone then, it can be fixed
 
2:23 PM
is that how pepper mills look where you live
 
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
@SterlingArcher @ssube ^
3 X 3min cycles will clean all your shit to brand new
every coil change you should clean your tanks completely
@ssube for the air ring that won't move, it is clamped too tight, you can try to pry it apart a bit
 
I wonder what else that can handle
 
mine have never tightened, only loosened
 
How big is that thing, lemon? Big enough to clean a tank?
 
it's looser now than it started out, after forcing it to spin a bunch
 
2:25 PM
@ssube I clean all my attys and my and the wifes rings
@SterlingArcher yea, it is meant for like eye glasses and shit
it is about the size of two kleenex boxes stacked
 
Very nice. I doubt my brothers fiance will want her engagement ring cleaned in that (they do it professionally) but maybe they'd like their other stuff sparkly
 
bonus for you @SterlingArcher is you can probably clean your watch bands with it
 
@SterlingArcher There, there. I used to say jithub and @rlemon's never let it go :P
 
:D
 
Dude omg you should see the rose gold rings they got for wedding bands. So dope, his is black carbon fiber with rose gold bands. So cool
I do need my watch cleaned.. probably a good idea
 
2:27 PM
once the workshop is up and running I wanna try to make a ring
 
@rlemon you have rings?
 
If you end up making cool shit I will literally buy stuff from you @rlemon
 
@FlorianMargaine I wear my late grandfathers wedding ring, she wears random jewellery
 
his attorney and his wife, he said. They have rings
 
hi guys, i have an old legacy vb.net app that is showing a spinning wheel of death on step 4 of a 5 step wizard. But we are not getting a .js error in the console, and its on PROD so Icannot see any errors? I looked at EVENT Viewer and also wrote down all the SPROC names
 
2:27 PM
@rlemon ok
 
is there a tool I can use to debug better? Maybe Fiddler would help right now?
 
@SterlingArcher what u want fam? I love fabricating but never know what to make
watch box maybe?
 
@rlemon sounds like I already heard that
 
:O That would be sick!
 
2:28 PM
@FlorianMargaine probably, I think you and/or sterling were really quick to question my ring when it was in a picture
 
@rlemon dude can we design a cool watch box?
 
@SterlingArcher a box with watches in it :D
 
I won't buy it unless it's stained with your blood though
I need to know it's special
 
@rlemon that was more about "I love programming but never know what to write"
 
how about linseed oil
 
2:29 PM
 
That works too
 
@FlorianMargaine ahh, well yea
common problem
 
@Trasiva lmao
 
I'll pay for supplies and time, of course
 
@Trasiva link?
 
@SterlingArcher well I want something to make with my new router table.
and I wanna try my hand at some jointery
 
@BenFortune Well look at you being less lazy than me.
 
@Trasiva I was actually just reading it :D
 
@rlemon a router table is... not a table for your internet router I presume?
 
2:32 PM
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher lol
 
user1596138
@rlemon have you seen the handheld CNC routers
 
user1596138
They're amazing
 
Shit I actually knew that
My dad has one in his shed
 
@SterlingArcher if you don't keep your router on a table (and roughly level), the antenna doesn't work nearly as well
 
2:33 PM
no, but I got a good deal on a 9amp floating router/table combo
 
user1596138
 
Remind me to get my dad to send me a picture of his tool shed. @rlemon you'd nut yourself. He's an ex-construction worker and does remodeling himself at home, so he's got every tool you'd ever need
 
@Jhawins looks expensive
:D
 
user1596138
You just move the main unit in the region is's supposed to cut and the head is independent and moves around matching your pattern
 
@SterlingArcher gf's father has the same.
 
Everytime I go visit there's a new tool
 
but nothing is organized. just clustered
 
He recently got a new chainsaw. It's amazing
 
my chainsaw sucks.
 
@SterlingArcher You are it
 
2:35 PM
I thought "ohh yea I'll get the electric, it'll be fine"
big mistake
 
Oh my dad is organized af. He rebuild the entire interior of his toolshed strictly for organization. he's got a freaking wall just for vice grips
 
user1596138
We had an electric chainsaw that was badass lol
 
user1596138
Sharpen that shit
 
user1596138
It was from like the 80s
 
@Jhawins nahh it is a shitty little 14"
It was $20 to buy the shitty chainsaw vs renting a chainsaw at the hardware store I went too
and I needed to cut down a tree
 
user1596138
2:36 PM
lol
 
Well well well... I've added my url to the Google Console editor used the API key for my script... Google maps won't show it... ><
 
I've used it three times since I got it, my tree, gf's parents had a tree fall down and I cleaned it up, and my mom needed a stump cut out
 
@rlemon I do it regularly
 
I wish my dad had bought it, but he rented a log splitter once
That thing was so cool to use
 
log splitters are pretty fun
 
2:38 PM
I need a new anvil. @Jhawins get me a used anvil for free, I'll pay shipping
pref 100lbs +
 
Imagine if Magneto was content to just be a blacksmith
 
@Duikboot how much land you got?
 
I made a bank from it as well :P scontent-ams3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/… but really doing it the way like on the picture is really hard :D
you have to grind your chain an other way.
 
user1596138
@rlemon lol the cost to ship that]
 
2:40 PM
@Jhawins :P
which is why the anvil would need to be free :D
can't pay $2/lb + shipping
hell no
 
@rlemon This was in a forest from my grandmother...
 
Your grandmother gave you a forest?
 
looks nice
 
@ndugger Grandmother earth
 
2:47 PM
@rlemon And this is why the Navy encourages condoms.
Besides getting crap on the dip stick that is.
 
!!> 0.1 * 0.2
 
@Jonathan 0.020000000000000004
 
@AndrewLeonardi Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
What would be the appropriate error type to throw when a method expects a string in a specific format and this format is not met?
 
2:49 PM
@rlemon ayyyyyyyyyyy
 
@Jonathan Error
 
Ok, thought so too
 
@jon
 
@RotarPaul Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
user1596138
@rlemon lol jeez. It'd probably be affordable to just drive to Fort Wayne and pick one up if it was free
 
user1596138
2:59 PM
The hardware store doesn't carry anvils... Tho they can order them and you'd get it at wholesale
 

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