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4:39 AM
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5:39 AM
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7:53 AM
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Quite a few of those comments are perfectly fine in my opinion
 
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11:41 AM
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@EricAya maybe a mod flag would be good __ ^
 
@PetterFriberg good idea
 
@ivarni Yeah threshold is still low to find new stuff to add to bad feed
@AndrasDeak What make you think it originated from here?
 
FR: create a why command which when replied to a report by queen, will give the reason. I understand there are not many reasons, but it might be helpful a bit
Like in smokey
 
12:01 PM
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12:39 PM
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1:04 PM
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2:33 PM
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3:01 PM
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@πάνταῥεῖ Your reply was not direct to a possible duplicate notification
 
:32160061 fp
 
 
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4:24 PM
@AshishAhujaツ You already have all info in message currently everything that score above 4 is reported, regex (was a regex hit), the others are different classifiers
I do not want to show what regex was hit, they can be nasty... if you can't understand by looking at message, you can ping me
@queen fp
@queen fp
 
4:52 PM
I've been digging through some popular old posts, in search of (intentional) late copy-paste answers of no value, and started downvoting them. Used about 50rep in 2 days on downvotes, but i m afraid of getting some false-positive vote reversal on me votes. Anyone ran into a similar issue? Should i be worried?
Asking because many of those late answers come from the same users, and don't want to trigger the alarms for no reason.
If this isnt a real danger, there is 272 more rep to spend that way :P
 
Yeah if you vote on more then 3 post of same users... the votes will be reversed..
I would be very careful with that, since it seems like you are targeting a user.
 
Damn.. i guess flags without down votes are my only option then.
 
50 rep lol, you are persistent : )
 
Are there any tools u know of, that are used specifically for such types or rep-abuse?
:D yea, i dont really care about rep. Quality is all that matters :P
 
There is the what we call NATO, but you need 10K (it's moderation tool)
 
4:57 PM
That might take a while.. :P
Ok so.. should I create a mega thread with all the offenders so that mods can see all the details there? Flagging everything and providing links in each flag is very inconvenient and error prone.
 
If you can flag VLQ (with comment "Not adding anything new .. see post "). I would do that... I would not go on downvote spree.
 
lol
 
Half of these posts are positive scored.
But i guess for the rest i could use VLQ
 
You can try to mod flag if you see something fishy, but SO is a lot about people trying to get rep ... so it needs to be fishy not "HE his trying to get rep"
The positive score you can throw a vote at... or if it is really plag raise a mod flag..
be careful with mod flags to... do just some work each day : )
 
@PetterFriberg Really? Which one?
 
5:09 PM
Was a joke, it was obsolete... : ) like "This post is on meta", meta deleted ... the cert.perm post
 
Ah, right
 
hehe
hey guys
blob kyll
 
Hiya Cold
 
Plop ankit and everyone else
 
I'm out, friends incoming.. for a barbecue.. cya
 
5:14 PM
o/
 
5:24 PM
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o_o
That's as nice as it gets
@queen fp
 
cya
 
6:06 PM
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6:34 PM
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@queen tp socvr
@queen tp, heated situation. Watching.
@queen fp
@queen fp
 
[ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 6 ★★★ (Regex:true NaiveBayes:1.00 J48:0.00 OpenNLP:0.59) comment cc: @Kyll @FrankerZ - tp
 
Yeah okay
Mod-flagging
 
@que tp tc
 
@queen tp
Woah
Mod flag already handled
Diamonds are on fire tonight.
 
6:57 PM
hehe
 
7:09 PM
@Fermiparadox if you find blatant plagiarism, use custom mod flag. If you see the exact same answer posted on multiple questions, there is already an auto-modflag being raised. If you see almost duplicate posts on multiple questions for no reason, custom mod flag explaining this. Mods often delete all but one in this case.
 
7:27 PM
@AndrasDeak About the "almost duplicate".. do you mean (nearly) identical posts from the same user on different questions?
 
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7:42 PM
@Fermiparadox yes
downvotes don't work for moderation
 
[ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 5 ★★ (Regex:false NaiveBayes:1.00 J48:0.90 OpenNLP:1.00) comment cc: @FrankerZ
 
Can you guys vtc that question please
 
@AndrasDeak One of the reasons i downvoted was to allow VLQ, but wasn't able to enable it for some reason even when the score was negative.
 
since a few weeks ago VLQ only applies to posts not older than 7 days
 
Oh that explains it.
 
7:57 PM
[ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 5 ★★ (Regex:true NaiveBayes:0.96 J48:0.42 OpenNLP:0.87) comment cc: @FrankerZ
 
heh
 
I flagged nc
 
good for you
btw yesterday I realized what my issue is with Flagging All The Comments: it's censorship (cc @Petter)
and I resent censorship by default, unless there's a very good reason for it
the cases where I think comments should be flagged happens to be in those cases (mostly targeted abuse; flame wars)
 
@AndrasDeak Really?
 
@FrankerZ no:P I mean, it's your flag, and surely it's righteous to flag that as nc
I'm just saying that I managed to get my opinion sorted, to explain (to myself mostly) why I'm against flagging every little violation of the "be constructive and nice" policy
 
8:04 PM
Enforcing rules != censorship, but in the end they're your flags and you use them as you like
 
Sure, comments are second-grade citizens, and most of them are eligible for deletion. But that doesn't mean that they all should be deleted.
@ivarni yes, but it's a bit akin to digging through SO's history and close-voting all the too broad and opinionated questions
there are literally tens of thousands of posts blatantly eligible for closing
nobody can say that it's wrong to close those once they're on the radar; yet I don't think it's helpful to wage a war against all those posts
blindly enforcing the rules for the sake of enforcing the rules (i.e. when otherwise there would be no harm done) is censorship in my opinion
 
Granted. But closing them helps communicate what questions are currently considered off topic so people don't see them and think anything goes. But I do agree partly with what you're saying, cleaning up all the things is perhaps not feasible
 
it's probably not if you think about it close enough, but to me it's the exact same sentiment
having all the comments deleted that say "oh, thanks man" and "wtf is this UB?:D" makes me think of Orwell or Huxley
nice little sterile world where every blade of grass is trimmed nicely to 34.5 millimeters:P
 
Actively seeking out 6 year old dead questions is perhaps not constructive, but throwing a CV on them once they pop up on the "active" tab because they attracted yet another VLQ answer or edit perhaps is
 
@ivarni it is
And I'm not saying this is the exact same thing. But 95% of these comments that pop up here would go unnoticed, and harmless. I don't think those should be handled at all.
 
8:09 PM
I think if the mods consider the flags coming out of it to be a problem they'll let you know. I'm pretty sure they're aware of this room.
 
But this is just an ongoing discussion between me and mostly me, where I try to explain why I disagree with taking action against most of queen's finds.
@ivarni I'm not worried about mods; I'm worried about culture.
 
I think a lot of the comments queen's been posting here the last days are perfectly OK, but then some of them are really bad so it's all about tweaking the algorithm IMO
 
Some times comments hide extremely important information, e.g. unsafe code, versions that the answer works, caveats etc. Comments of 0 value waste unnecessarily our time. At least my time, because i always read comments.
 
@ivarni my point is that "perfectly OK" and even "meh" should probably be left alone, and we should be here for the "really bad" ones. Which need swift and harsh handling.
Petter is much more sensitive than me, and he finds a lot of things offensive that I don't even register as anything:) I just find it helpful to discuss our view points
 
I already skip flagging comments I feel are OK and "meh". Just because the bot brings it up doesn't mean it must be flagged. But it might work as a kind of "mini meta-effect". I'd never flag a comment just because it has an f-bomb but others might.
 
8:13 PM
@ivarni that's exactly my point. I wouldn't want these comments to be handled just because they appeared on the radar. Even if strictly speaking they could be flagged (as non-constructive or too chatty, mainly)
But anyway, enough of my rambling. Back to work:)
 
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Now that's perfectly fine in my opinion. ^
 
Agreed
 
Petter might say that a high-rep is being snarky to a poor noob;)
 
And he'd be right. I just personally don't think that's an issue
It's technically not constructive
But I'm not wasting a flag on it
 
8:20 PM
it is, technically
"Please explain why the answers on the duplicate are not satisfactory. Please consider [edit]ing your question to reflect this. Thank you."
 
That would be the constructive way to word it
And way less likely to cause escalation
 
of course; but the same information is there:D
so technically, it's constructive
the wording could be improved
 
9:06 PM
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9:48 PM
@AndrasDeak Interesting view, but I feel we have surpassed that issue, this is more a internet problem, we are not censoring stuff, you like just to be an ahole.. to show off or unload your anger on SO... well it's not the right place, please go and hit a wall : )
but then again, I'm not flagging hovers comment and remember I running queen with low threshold, the issue I think actually comes down to SE as a firm would not like to have these comments (it pushes users away, less $) see the summer of love campaign, the community (including mods) are more tollerante, hence ooh crap yet another of these crap question, Google god dam it!
 
10:26 PM
@FrankerZ I hit it with a to chatty, your flag is approved : )
 
[ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 5 ★★ (Regex:true NaiveBayes:0.74 J48:1.00 OpenNLP:0.20) comment cc: @PetterFriberg @FrankerZ
 
Yeah I know, already flagged...
 
10:43 PM
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11:47 PM
@queen Do you have keepers?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ No I don't think I have any keepers. But I do have an answer to every question..
 
@queen Thank you honey.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Don't mention it.
 
@queen Shhhhh
 
@πάνταῥεῖ What do you look like?
 
11:55 PM
@queen like my avatar
 
@πάνταῥεῖ your avatar is very attractive.
 
@queen Yes, it was designed by drug industry :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ What kind is it?. How did you feel about that?
 
@queen Good of course, my sweetie!
 
Thanks honey
 

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