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12:18 AM
^^
 
Wes
12:58 AM
 
1:12 AM
@Wes can you please explain to me just what is happening there?
 
Wes
hodor
@FélixGagnon-Grenier watch "the hateful eight"
 
looks promising
wat the force awakens is on netflix. woot
 
Wes
2:01 AM
i didn't even know that the force was sleeping
 
2:19 AM
@JoeWatkins I've uploaded a tarball to ds on PECL, but I don't think I've set up the paths right because build fails. Also wasn't aware that you can't delete a release (unless you can and I don't know how to). Help pls
 
2:31 AM
@JoeWatkins I've added dirs using PHP_ADD_BUILD_DIR in the M4 and local build works, but I'm careful to upload something else to PECL if I can't replace or remove. Could we mess around then recreate the package? :p
Looks like the PECL windows build failed too, last line in the make log was:
NMAKE : fatal error U1073: don't know how to make 'ext\ds\src\php\handlers\php_common_handlers.c'
Stop.
 
Morning
 
hello rtheunissen
 
@JoeWatkins I think I fixed the common handlers error, wasn't added to package.xml (recently created). Build should now work, but our 1.0.0 is broken.
 
Wes
2:56 AM
morning rtheunissen \o
 
morning...
 
3:22 AM
> In computer science there are 2 really hard problems: naming things, cache invalidation, and off by one errors.
 
that's three....
 
ah, the good ol' ten types of people that know how to count
 
><
0, 1 and 2
 
awwe someone didn't get the joke :/
 
3:24 AM
;P
waddup Felix!
 
@rtheunissen interesting. so would you think the famous "ten people that know how to count, those that know binary and those that don't" would actually go one level further? Because if we count 0 as an actual element, 10 is actually "three"
 
^ dat
 
dude stop changing name. I so confuse :p
 
!!eval $hard = ["naming things", "cache invalidation", "off by one errors"]; var_dump(sizeof($hard));
:P
@Jeeves you dead?
 
3:31 AM
Hey Jim, he's dead!
 
Wes
@Okabe you remind me of a kid that is usually around here. he's so annoying with his hentai addiction :B
 
:P
 
Wes
y u changed nick again
 
I loved Steins; Gate!!!
!!? Steins; Gate
oh...
@Jeeves y u no working?
 
3:35 AM
Doritos and xbox seemed way more pleasing
 
Wes
he's just avoiding you
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Console_Peasant
 
Wes
someone that wants to coauthor an rfc about namespace-protected and private class members?
 
July 28th, is the 10,000th day of the Web.
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Wes
3:39 AM
felix?
 
\o/ happy web day
 
Wes
the rfc ^
 
I... yeah sure
 
Wes
lol
 
3:44 AM
:p
 
is it ':p' or ':P'?
 
depends on the state of your face, mostly
@Wes you mean you want protected and private class members to pollute their containing namespace?
 
Wes
same as java. in java if you are in the namespace Foo\Bar\Baz; you can access class Foo { protected $bar; } $bar from any class in \Foo\Bar\Baz\*
so basically i want to propose a "public" but limited to the current namespace and its child namespaces
 
like... inheritance without extending
 
Wes
kinda
 
3:53 AM
do you have a pseudo code example? I think I get it but I'm not quite sure how or why I would even use that
 
Wes
class A{ private $foo; }
class B{ function __construct(A $a){ $this->a = $a; } } access $a->foo from in here is not possible. the only thing you can do is to make $foo public, but you want it public only to B (or classes that are in the same namespace)
 
"carry on" mean "changing the position of something to other place" or "continuing" ?
 
protected members should be accessible from the same namespace or it's descendents
 
@Shafizadeh the latter
 
4:00 AM
to sum it up
 
Wes
yes @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
@littlepootis aha thx
 
If you were actually changing sth's position, it would be both.
 
Wes
but have a new keyword for that, like "nsprotected $foo"
 
namespaced :p
 
4:01 AM
@littlepootis ah
 
Wes
also namespaced
 
class Foo {private $bar, namespaced $foo}
lel
 
Wes
not bad yeah
 
this sounds familiar
 
very beautiful
 
I don't have quite the same definition of epic though :p
 
epic is the style
 
epic is an adjective
what do you mean?
 
4:39 AM
Yes. but there is a style of music called epic music
Epic Music too
 
This will popularize in the future
 
To be considered a style, music must have a "trend", a specific character, a particular way of resolving musical tensions
epic is an adjective. it designs music that features epicness, be it in the dynamics, sonorities, orchestration, you name it
baroque music is a style of music, characterized by conterpoint
epic can be applied over numeric different musical styles
 
I do not think that way.
 
interesting. do you often speak with other music theoricians and/or interprets / students??
 
4:44 AM
I have studied music theory.
But I do not understand much.
I play saxophone.
 
I like saxophone. We don't see them much in the orchestra, but it gets the job done when trying to cheezy out the atmosphere
 
this have nothing to do with being a musical style
this is the name of a video collection... most of the time movie music
 
yes
But I can not define a style for it.
 
This enter in the vast amount of "contemporary music"
 
4:50 AM
although all the songs here have something in common.
Can you call music soundtrack.
 
if you absolutely wish to frame a style, postmodernism can group many movie music
some late post romantic composers also have inspired many a soundtrack. wagner and holst are two such composers of some reknown
 
I understand...
I'm going to sleep now. It's late here in Brazil. Bye!
 
5:51 AM
!!version
@Jeeves you drunked on wed night
 
    /
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o/
 
who Approves the changes made on stack Documentation?
 
6:22 AM
The Community
 
6:38 AM
q: I have a crontab running which is parsing some data, when I simply add the url in the browser I get 'ok' as status for multiple records, is there a way to see that output inside crontab? ( Running the URL outside crontab gives me a timeout ;) )
 
6:59 AM
How SIM cards work in your country? You should charge (increasing its credit) it every time when its credit is finished? Or its credit is unlimited?
 
@Shafizadeh depends on your pay scheme. there is pre-paid and subscriptions
 
I used pre-paid as a student and then later switched to a subscription
 
@Gordon ah
 
there are also two different payment models for subscriptions
 
well my main problem is: how can I charge (re-pay) my ipad's SIM card? Or even how can I see the current credit of it?
 
7:01 AM
@Shafizadeh subscriptions come in many different models. There is flat rates which give you unlimited phonecalls and there is pay-by-use models where you are charged by your actual usage.
 
@tereško ah
 
it can either be charging your per minute and you get the final bill at the end of month OR you can have unlimited calls
 
@Gordon interesting
 
@Shafizadeh your sim provider should be able to tell you
 
@tereško yes this is good
@Gordon Actually apple devices are really rare in my country .. so sim provider doesn't has much information about how to work with ipad (as a note, apple is the name of a brand)
thank you guys anyway
 
7:04 AM
@Shafizadeh how to charge your sim shouldnt be much connected to any device
 
!!rebecca
 
@Gordon I can charge my sim simply by this: *141*1#
but my ipad doesn't has any call keyboad .. so I cannot use *141*1#
 
Wait, ipads that have sim card support don't have * and # on the dialer keypad?
 
@littlepootis I cannot find any .. Actually I cannot find any dialer keypad
 
@aerys-support-people ... I've been trying to redirect by using, $response->setHeader("Location", $uri); $response->setStatus(302); but in vain, any suggestion? @bwoebi @kelunik
 
7:10 AM
@Shafizadeh that's weird
 
Wes
not all ipads have sim
 
@Wes mine has
 
Can't you download a third party app that makes calls?
 
Wes
@Shafizadeh as in: you could find the slot and put your sim in it?
 
@littlepootis emm dunno .. I'll search about it .. But I thought there is a standard way to do that without installing an app.
@Wes yes .. I putted my sim card into it
 
Wes
7:14 AM
no idea though
 
it says "ask your provider"…
 
yes .. as you said it seems it is depends on the provider
Which one?
- it doesn't has
- it doesn't have
 
@Shafizadeh latter, you already put the "s" in "doesn't"
 
ah ok thx
 
@Okabe you have to use $response->end() as well.
 
Wes
7:27 AM
so if you want to use google.com only rather than your country's localized google you need to modify your hosts file. it's the only way
raging hard
 
oh oh oh... i see..!
thanks a lot!
 
@bwoebi Didn't we want to fix that? That setting a status or header starts the response as in no further handlers are executed?
 
Wes
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Q: How to force Google search to only return English results?

this.lau_I'm in France and trying to use Google in English only. My Google settings are set to English everywhere: I've also clicked on the link "use google.com" but when I do a search, it still shows some results in French, and I suspect the results are somehow tweaked for a French audience, which mea...

crazy...
 
@Wes While you're at it, can't you make them change to a new logo? the old one is so ugly :D
 
@JonClements quick question: before I resigned the idea of using video chat came up again. was there any further evaluation?
 
7:43 AM
Mormgas
 
@PeeHaa ohai o/
i just read it as - 'mom-gas'
 
@Okabe Goddamnit serious?
 
pretty sure...
 
Wes
i hate google..
 
Staph changing naaaaames
 
7:44 AM
I couldn't resist myself :'(
 
:(
 
@Wes we all do, just use duckduckgo
 
Even @Wes has been @Wes for a while
 
@Wes how about you change your name as well?
 
Anonymous
moegon
 
7:45 AM
mvoredvcrvje james
 
@JayIsTooCommon jo o/
 
Anonymous
@Wes Wait till you try and use their client library, it's pure evil.
 
Is this sentence correct? "But isn't there any approach to check how many my current SIM's credit is?"
 
@Gordon tbh - wasn't aware that was even a thing - but I can't see it ever happening :)
 
@JonClements a pity. thanks.
 
7:57 AM
@Shafizadeh Pretty sure credit should be quantified as much not many
 
ah ..
 
@Gordon On the plus side - I believe RO's can now place their rooms in timeout if needs be
 
@JonClements timeout a room? been there done that.
 
Morndong
 
@Fabor TMI
 
8:03 AM
lol
 
@Gordon Yup - apparently been made an RO tool instead of a mod tool now though
 
@JonClements can I click it or will it freeze the room immediately?
 
@Gordon should ask for a duration... but even if you activate it - you/another RO can turn it off immediately anyway
And it doesn't freeze the room - it just removes the ability of anyone else except ROs to talk in the room for its duration
 
This room was placed in timeout for 5 seconds; I need to go loo and don't wanna miss a thing.
 
Yay
 
8:06 AM
That was one quick visit to the loo.
 
:p
 
@JonClements does it raise mod flags?
 
Wes
am i going mad or i saw a 2 fading out on the bottom left corner of this window
 
No, it was there
 
Brb me goea take a piss in c++ and ro freeze the room
 
8:07 AM
@Gordon I don't see one from that - not sure what the rules are - only became aware of the changes yesterday (or day before) - so who knows - if you did it multiple times or something maybe?.
 
is it just me or Rio olimpics will make the Russian ones look really well organized ?
 
@ScottArciszewski Do you or have you work with vault?
 
also, did I miss a new shitstorm?
 
Anyway... it's meant as a way if you've got too much noise going on, you can timeout the room for a few minutes so you can stop the noise and make your point clearly without the info. getting lost...
 
we have mods prawning the room again .. (@MadaraUchiha doesn't count, he's a native)
 
8:08 AM
Jon is often here
 
.. lately
:D
 
And today will be known in the history books as "The day PeeHaa silenced every single god damn room he was RO in"
 
@tereško for a while - you've just never noticed before :)
 
@tereško I pinged him to ask something
 
oh, so it's your fault
I see
 
8:10 AM
@Gordon @PeeHaa and here I was thinking I was a nice mod... being blamed for stuff I haven't done already! :p
 
This room was placed in timeout for 5 seconds; Now I have to try it out too...
 
test test
 
Called it.
 
test
 
:P
 
8:10 AM
why doesnt it give a message when it unfreezes?
 
what dafaq is happening?
 
What do you non room owners see when we do that?
 
Our chat bar vanish
or the field rather
 
k
 
Don't think it ever has as it's not totally relevant... something should happen to non-ROs though...
 
8:11 AM
^ dat
 
Do it again and I'll screen cap if you want
 
k 1 sec
*This room was placed in timeout for 5 seconds; I'm done playing now
*
 
That'd be cool ^... also - be interesting to see if there's a "it's been time'd out n times already" and raises a flag
 
and a huge number fades in-out from the bottom of the screen
 
lol MD #FAIL
 
8:12 AM
the magic number is 3
 
hahahaha even balpha doesn't understand chat MD
 
No need to hide your pr0n ya know :-)
tnx though
 
I didn't want to share all the good stuff
 
:P
 
8:15 AM
"EarMaster"?
 
I knew I should've redded the last tab out.
But alas yes, that is where I work.
Or, well, for the next 3 months at least.
 
how many plugins do you even have?
 
@Epodax Cheers... is there any kind of count down shown? Or does it just disappear and come back?
 
@JonClements In the bottom left corner, on top of ones avatar actually a 2 or a 3 appears for a short time before fading out, but other than that I haven't noticed.
 
Might be worth trying a longer time out 60 seconds or something - in a non-live room :)
 
8:21 AM
Sandbox?
 
jeeze... I've got so many tabs/browsers open... I'm not sure I created a room or not...
 
This room was placed in timeout for 5 seconds; <a href="#" onclick="alert('oh noes')">escape me</a>
so it will render a <br> but not a link… strange
@PeeHaa did you out a double space at the end when you entered your message?
 
o/
 
swoosh. The sound of 80% of these secret sharing blog posts going over my head :P
 
8:30 AM
hmm, if I was london based I'd seriously consider this:
Open Source Lead at Government Digital Service (GDS) (@gdsteam) [London, UK] http://stackoverflow.com/jobs/121803/open-source-lead-government-digital-service
 
@Gordon umm... not sure - government work and all that...
 
@JonClements its a job with a social purpose though
 
@Gordon one of my companies already covers that side of things... ;)
 
@Gordon linebreak
 
@PeeHaa odd
 
8:35 AM
@Gordon £60,000 - 70,000 for london is not that much afaik
 
@PeeHaa it's about right for a low-senior or high-mid level dev.
 
@PeeHaa true, but dev wages in the UK are generally not that much afaik
 
@Gordon If you've got a good background and are strong in the sector - it's not too hard to demand a 6 digit salary
 
@Gordon I dunno, in London they can be pretty high.
First browse apartments and rent prices then you'll have a good idea as to whether it's worth it.
 
@JonClements never seen salaries that high in job ads from the uk
@Fabor I know london is mad expensive.
 
8:45 AM
@Gordon not a lot of 'em get advertised... but they're there if you're part of the right circles...
 
@Gordon Word of mouth is your best bet.
Or just google some interesting looking work environments then wing off emails with job inquiries. If nothing is available then to email you if anything turns up. Not going through recruitment already makes you like 5x more desirable. Especially on the higher salaries.
 
moin
 
MornDave
You an Vault expert yet? :P I did send Scott a message earlier. Hopefully he knows a little about it.
irc never seems like people are active that much on it, despite a room list full of names.
 
Anonymous
moin chris
 
@DaveRandom i/
@DaveRandom i/
 
8:57 AM
@DaveRandom i/
 
j/
@Fabor IRC is so last millenium
 
Blame the nerds that still use it, not me :P
 
Yeh I really have some don't understandment issues with that
 
Anonymous
\o
 
1 day left for free Win 10 upgrade, MS probably really will actually take it away
4
 
@DaveRandom Fuck Windows 10!
 
There are probably people here who are using Win 8...
 
I like W10 personally. Yes W8 was the other option.
 
Fuck Windows 8 too
 
9:01 AM
Windows 2k for life!
 
Well you can downgrade from 8 to 7
All things considered though, given that in the majority of people's envs they will need to be able to talk to Win-based networks, the free upgrade is worthwhile. It's taken me an entire year to reach this conclusion, but I'm happy with it.
 
Especially since 7, 8, 9. -_-
 
Counting to 10, the Microsoft way: 1, 2, 3, 3.1, 3.5, 95, 98, 2000, 7, 8, 8.1, 10
7
 
heh. + ME
 
Anonymous
:P
 
9:06 AM
@Fabor :)
 
Millinium Edition was perhaps the worst thing I have even had the misfortune of using.
 
I think ME is known as CFS these days
At least, I assume that's what they named it after
 
@DaveRandom you forgot XP, NT and ME
 
WTF for windows 10 they actually bumped the version to 10????
 
9:16 AM
@littlepootis You knew that?
I'm pretty sure it's just 6.4
 
9:28 AM
I don't get why so many dislike win10, I personally like it.
 
me too, me too !
 
I liked 7 better tbh
 
Anonymous
I tried it once, but didn't like it. Win7 and XP are my favorites.
 
I love everything 'flat' and 'material'
 
Wes
@PeeHaa but with a nicer gui :B
 
9:31 AM
good mornings
 
Anonymous
moin hakre
 
ohoi!
 
Wes
afaik officially they wanted to match the thousands of build number, but more likely they just wanted to take distance from windows 8's failure
 
@Wes Wat? I never properly tried 8 so I don't know which one is worse
 
Wes
they are all bad
 
9:38 AM
To be completely fair I also ran 7 in classic mode
 
Wes
classic mode you mean the windows 9x-looking gui?
 
... I have never understood that subset of people
 
aero disabled and a normal gray taskbar
 
@Wes then one you use when you are too poor to afford a decent gfx card
 
Wes
i use 7+ taskbar tweaker
 
9:40 AM
@Gordon s/decent/any
 
Anonymous
@tereško I use the classic mode to gain some performance from my laptop.
 
It's not about performance. It's about useless eye candy huge taskbar
 
Anonymous
~2 years now, and I'm addicted to it. I like it actually.
 
*for me
 
Anonymous
Also, changing the taskbar to the top is the best.
 
Anonymous
9:45 AM
It takes some time to get used to, but you'll never regret it.
 
That is just awkward
 
Anonymous
11 secs ago, by samayo
It takes some time to get used to, but you'll never regret it.
 
It was stupid when the mac did it and it is stupid now
 
setup my laravel project into hosted server laravel.example.com and added below code to create a page 'test',
Route::get('test', function () {
return "test";
});
but laravel.example.com/test is '404 Not Found'
the same code is working fine in localhost:8000/test
 
@samayo quick, upgrade to win10!
 
Anonymous
9:52 AM
@Okabe Tried, but didn't like it.
 
... Though, on a sidenote i am actually @Gon/@Saitama...
 
Anonymous
At this point, it is easier to ignore you ... just to keep track of who you are.
 
cough
 
Anonymous
ignored!! for the greater good
 
Far too many talks/tutorials have this affect on me.
nod... nod... nod... nod... confusion... check out mentally
 

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