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7:00 PM
I found it! There's this little house-shaped button that brings me back to the desktop.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I could have told you that. It doesn't necessarily stop the process, though. And that's what you asked for.
 
There's a reddit post titled: The epitome of laziness. However, I think laziness should be measured by dividing importance by the amount effort performed. Since the importance is pretty low I don't consider it so lazy.
 
23 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Well, I unlock this thing, and it goes straight to my stupid hello world app. How do I get out of it and back to the normal desktop/menu/whatever?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Sorry, I hadn't seen that question.
27 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
How do I "close" an application?
 
Why does toilet paper need to go on rolls?
 
sbi
7:02 PM
^ I had only seen that one
 
No problem.
 
Ell
@Pubby what do you suggest?
 
@Pubby Because it's a simple compact packing?
 
Why not folded like an accordion? Then you could put it on a shelf.
 
"Accordion" is a word? Wow.
 
7:04 PM
Why does this piece of code:

void swap(int &a, int &b)
{
int tmp = a;
a = b;
b = tmp;
}


IS VALID for C++ , but not for Pure C ?
 
Pure C? Is that like BitC?
 
@user1131997 C has no references.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Otherwise known as a 'Squeezebox'
 
@MooingDuck You have new one message and also 42 saved messages and what do you mean under this? :)
 
@Pubby Anyway, I suppose robots for rolling paper into rolls are simpler.
 
7:06 PM
Robots for wiping butts sounds better
 
And then you get revolutions.
 
Would be worth it
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Revolutions is what puts the paper on a roll.
 
@sbi I was going to come up with a joke on that, but got distracted by... external factors.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I am waiting for my tests, and only have to look at them with one eye.
 
7:09 PM
I'm reading a manga about a robot named Alpha. She owns a coffee house but she rarely has customers because human population has been drastically reduced in the post-apocalyptic setting.
There's an amazing lack of story and yet it's fascinating.
 
?
 
@Pubby my girl & I
 
Does she get immediately bored when you start talking about programming?
 
7:13 PM
@StackedCrooked I never talking to her about programming or other technical stuff
 
So you learned? :p
 
My girl gets turned on when I talk about programming. And by girl I mean computer :(
 
@StackedCrooked Learn what? :)
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Charles Stross plays on something like this in one of his books. Only in his novel the robot's function is to be sexually pleasing to (male) humans, but humans had gone extinct centuries ago. So this robot's situation is a lot more desperate.
 
@Pubby Don't :( be :)
 
7:16 PM
@StackedCrooked What?
 
@StackedCrooked I don't learn her any stuff, cause she is from another sort of profession, I studied at technical faculty, she's from economics faculty
 
sbi
Ok, my code now does almost what I want. It's just a few more wrinkles to iron out...
 
@sbi Oh, which one is that?
Saturn's Children?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes What? I expected you to step in and provide the title. Am I a robot?
@RMartinhoFernandes Yep. That's it.
 
@sbi Haven't read it yet, so I couldn't possibly know.
Not that that would stop me.
 
sbi
7:21 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Well, you figured it out within a minute after you had asked. Shrug.
 
the worst thing about watching a film on your computer
the seek bar's fidelity is way too low
 
sbi
Adding yet more log statements...
 
shotgun debugginng as Mooning Duck said some time ago :)
 
@DeadMG Seek bar?
Why do you need the seek bar to watch a film?
 
7:24 PM
because I make a habit of seeking past the parts I'm not interested in watching
 
I'll never understand that.
 
I don't get what's so complicated about it
I don't want to watch a specific part, so I don't
 
Ell
@DeadMG of a film?
 
yeah
 
@sbi how about, creating a small program to explore the issue/functionality. logs tend to either resolve things immediately, or be a painful prolonged exercise.
 
7:28 PM
 
@DeadMG But how do you know you can safely skip that?
 
@user1131997 i'm just reading the sequel to gorky park (i think it was)
 
How can you know it doesn't contain important plot elements?
 
Ell
exactly
 
Or character building.
I mean, you can safely skip large portions of 2001, but not all movies are like that.
 
sbi
7:30 PM
@CheersandhthAlf This is a highly parallel, distributed systems. When I start my tests, about half a dozen processes are started, that communicate with each other. It's a workflow system, through which data objects freely flow. Not every tests even reproduces the bugs I am looking for. Really, in such a system analyzing log files is the best one can come up with.
I have hacked a script, though, to filter the log file, and use the coloring ability of NP++ to visualize what's happening.
That gets me quite far.
 
0
Q: How to properly shutdown and cleanup glew?

user886910I start up Glew like this: GLenum err = glewInit(); if (GLEW_OK != err) { // error reporting } // do stuff with glew here. This works. Now how do I shut it down and clean it up? I couldn't find any docs (does C have inline docs?), anything on the website or anything in the header file (s...

Look at the OP's comments on that question.
Is it me, or does the guy seems a bit arrogant?
 
I think Hanlon's razor applies.
 
@CheersandhthAlf gorky park? sequal?
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes. sarcasm is not a proper response to good help
@user1131997 maybe i'm mixing up things. lemme check
 
7:34 PM
I know such band:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorky_Park_(band)
 
"Siberian Light"
 
@JohannesSchaublitb Why are you shouting this time?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb I have the question. Is the initialization order of members specified by the standard, or is that implementation defined?
 
7:36 PM
@EtiennedeMartel undefined behavior
 
don't be surprised if it formats your disk
 
@user1131997 yes
 
Wait, wut?
Are you trolling?
 
7:37 PM
 
it's a bit dated though. but still a good read
 
@RMartinhoFernandes i can just tell you what I found to be true by years of scientific research in C++
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel It's determined by the order they are declared in in the class' definition.
 
Well, thanks guys.
 
7:39 PM
@CheersandhthAlf and do you mean exaclty this Gorky Park novel by Cruz Smith?
 
that's sort of a different author, unless changed name
 
@EtiennedeMartel OK that was a JOKE. what @sbi says. follow him, I believe what he says is true. it'S the order of the definitions of the members
 
@JohannesSchaublitb you could, but you don't seem to be right now
 
wasn't Gorky Park a FPS?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb what's FPS?
 
7:39 PM
FirstPersonShooter
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb I think it's a song by the Scorpions. ICBWT. Why are you suddenly talking of Gorky Park anyway?
 
anyone here good with dynamic programming
 
Gorky Park request at amazon
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/179-5226929-2344926?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Gorky+Park+
 
@sbi because someone posted a gorkypark pic
 
@CheersandhthAlf Frames per Second.
 
7:40 PM
Farts per Session
 
Feet per second, too.
 
sbi
@JohannesSchaublitb Huh? Oh, there's someone here I have plonked. Must have been him.
 
Fucks Per Sandcastle.
 
Floppies per Scandisk
 
It's not a map. It's an invitation.
 
sbi
7:41 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes What are you talking about?
 
Alexander Romanovich Belyayev (, ; 1884–1942) was a Russian and Soviet author of science fiction. His body of work from the 1920s and 1930s made him a highly regarded figure in Soviet science fiction. Belyaev's published works include Professor Dowell's Head, Amphibian Man, Ariel, and The Star KETs (KETs are the initials of Konstantin Eduardovich Tsiolkovsky), The Air Seller, and many more. Biography Alexander Belyaev was born in Smolensk in the family of the Orthodox priest. His father, after losing two other children (Alexander's sister Nina died at childhood from sarcoma and his brot...
 
dammit I forgot my green tea
now it's bitter
 
Hey guys, do you know a good free/open source screen capping software?
 
@JohannesSchaublitb forget it further (down the sink)
 
@EtiennedeMartel CamStudio
 
7:43 PM
@EtiennedeMartel hit PrintScreen, everyone always forgets that one
 
@EtiennedeMartel camstudio.org
 
great tea is good. i will put enough honey in it so that it tastes well xD
 
I tried CamStudio, and it sucks.
 
@EtiennedeMartel where does it suck exactly?
 
7:43 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Might want to mention OS.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Windows.
 
@sbi I'm experimenting with editing my messages that become redundant into movie quotes.
 
@user1131997 The captured video is quite jerky.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Expession Studio may be also used, but it's not open-source
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes But no one here except for you will remember all those quotes you are throwing at us that way.
 
7:45 PM
@EtiennedeMartel maybe , cause you have chosed not right decoder for comperssing?
 
@user1131997 Perhaps.
 
for the 1st video captured from CamStudio, I don't use any compressor and video has an excellent quality , but big size, very big

than edit it and trying to look how will it look like after different compressions
 
@sbi Hehe, awesome.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I had found that a few years ago and never forgot about it. :)
 
7:47 PM
@user1131997 Yeah, well, what I want is 30 FPS. Because when I look at the result, it feels more like 10.
 
@sbi Shit, I misremembered that one anyway.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Uh oh. The robot has a faulty RAM module. That's gonna end real bad...
Ok, now that I have been plastering the whole code with log statements, I see that my code actually does what it is expected to do. I can now remove all that noise and check it in.
Thank you guys for allowing me to bounds my thoughts off you. That helped a lot!
 
Somebody here has posted link to:
A pseudo-penis is a term used of any structure found on an animal that while superficially appearing to be a penis, is derived from a different developmental path. Mammals In mammals, all intact developmentally typical males have a penis, but the clitoris in the females of the following species is sufficiently enlarged that it is usually termed a pseudo-penis: spotted hyena, squirrel monkey, lemur, juvenile fossa and binturong. The enlarged clitoris in the fossa is supported by an os clitoridis, a bone similar to the os penis found in most mammals. However, the fossa's os clitoridis and ...
The funniest part in this wiki article is:

"A notable example of a bird with a pseudo-penis is the Red-billed Buffalo Weaver, which can still mate even if its pseudo-penis is disabled."
 
Psh, I'm going to go metaprogram an m6502 emulator, then use that to more easily meta-meta-program all my calculations in advance and achieve quantum computing speeds.
 
7:55 PM
@user1131997 is this shit related to C++ ?
 
The build speeds are going to be killer, but that's what compilre farms are for, right?
 
just wondering %)
 
@Abyx read the newbie hints eh?
I'm a newbie and I did it
 
@Abyx It's related as old version of posting here by someone in this chat before me.
 
sbi
7:57 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, of course. Sorry.
 
@OrgnlDave I read it once, nothing interesting there
 
Anyone know of a compiler that specializes in template metaprogramming...compiling? I actually have some fun things I'd like to try that GCC and MSVC2k10 choke on
 
@user1131997 Oh, so now can have a Pseudo-metapenis.
 
@EtiennedeMartel better word "recursive" , but not prefix "meta" :)
 
7:59 PM
Mar 25 at 18:06, by Etienne de Martel
Metapenises.
 
That's a serious question, I like to abuse my compilers and make them cry for fun
 
Well, well.
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Metapenis

Metapenis
A penis with a tattoo of a penis on it with a tattoo of a penis on it
 
I hope you don't also like to do that to your fellow human beings.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Only if they are Turing-complete and compilers are implemented on them
meta-human-meta-meta-template programming...the hottest new trend in C++!
 
8:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel such tatoo will be cool on penis:
 
Why that, specifically?
 
@EtiennedeMartel because this makes it longer :)
 
Does anyone else here think that std::array is stupid? Do we really need STL access to every single kind of data everywhere possible?
 
@OrgnlDave Why it must be stupid?
 
Hm, redundant functionality that encourages poor programming practice...
The day I need an iterator to go over an array<> is the day I ask why I didn't just use a vector instead
 
@OrgnlDave I'm not convinced it encourages poor programming pratice.
Can you elaborate on your reasons?
@OrgnlDave array<> iterators are just pointers.
 
@OrgnlDave it's good
 
@RMartinhoFernandes :)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes That's my point. I'm an old man saying 'get off my lawn' to all the youngin's that want to get us further and further away from understanding the hardware we're programming on
 
Ell
8:12 PM
we dont need to understand the hardware
 
@OrgnlDave it provides a C++ container concept to a local array. It's awesome.
@OrgnlDave this simplifies using arrays with algorithms, and adds bounds checking to debug builds
 
And I don't like all the old men that want to get us further and further from being able to understand high-level code.
 
@OrgnlDave vector can't be local: slower
 
what kind of debug build doesn't bounds check an array? oh, the kind that don't have bounds-checking turned on
 
"Understanding the hardware" (if that even makes sense) is not everything.
Get off my lawn.
 
8:14 PM
who has worked with network card with assembler in ring0?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes robot, y u always link to tvtropes
 
@DeadMG Because you guys keep mentioning stuff that reminds me of tropes!
 
Hey, let's all use strawman arguments to dismiss OrgnlDave's assertion!
 
Here's an image of a massive cock.
 
@OrgnlDave Because native arrays suck donkey dick. You don't need an excuse to replace T[] as an array type.
for example, no assignment, pointer decay, can't be used in generic algorithms
std::array works, and T[] doesn't, and it's really just that simple
 
8:16 PM
@OrgnlDave What about "because old arrays are like nitroglycerin: you shake 'em and they're gone".
Sometimes damage is done in the process.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes how does std::array help?
@DeadMG they can't be used with STL generic algorithms no but they've been useable forever with callback functions for a comparator, for instance
 
@OrgnlDave It doesn't decay.
 
sbi
Hey, it's only 10:20pm, all my changes are now checked in, and I can go home. :-/ I meant to be home at 8pm today — the latest. But those sysads surely fucked this up. Now, when I come home close to midnight, there's laundry waiting, a dishwasher to be emptied, and other stuff to do. This really sucks.
 
It can be copied and assigned.
 
@OrgnlDave Which is useless compared to being good for STL algorithms.
pointer decay is a disgusting feature and the sooner it's eradicated, the better
 
8:18 PM
@OrgnlDave You know, assembly has been usable forever as well. That doesn't mean a thing.
 
Who does want to know how to make a tetryl bomb?
tetryl is: (NO2)3-C6H2-N(-NO2)-CH3
 
@DeadMG How does std::array prevent pointer decay? Assuming we are using the same terminology
 
@OrgnlDave So, you don't understand std::array?
std::array<int, 10> a; int* ap = a; // no compile for you
 
tetryl is baking in way of: nitration of dimethylaniline
dimethylaniline ( C8-H11-N ) is baking in way of: Aniline and some methyl-agent as: methyl iodide ( CH3-I ) or dimethyl sulfate ( C2-H6-O4-S )
 
Ell
can we use std::array as a complete replacement of native arrays?
 
8:23 PM
The only thing you'll be missing is automatic size deduction.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes ...so? do subscripts not return pointers? I guess I haven't delved into std::array deep enough
 
@OrgnlDave What?
Subscripts don't return pointers even in C arrays.
Unless you have an array of pointers that is.
std::array<int, 10> a;
int x = a[3];
// exactly the same as
int a[10];
int x = a[3];
 
Dimethyl sulfate is baking like this: Methanol ( C-H4-O ) with Sulfuric acid ( h2so4 )
 
@Ell Oh, yeah, std::array<int, 10> a; int x = 3[a]; doesn't work either. Ι sincerely hope you won't miss that.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes lol. I know that. I know also that using a subscript isn't exactly the same as pointer arithmetic: a[4] isn't the same as *(a+4). My question is what is the real difference it makes at the end of the day? In what way does it add functionality or readability? In what way does it protect me from something I'll probably do by accident?
 
8:27 PM
sulfuric acid: h2so4 <- so3 + h2o
 
6 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
std::array<int, 10> a; int* ap = a; // no compile for you
 
so3 <- so2 + no2
 
@RMartinhoFernandes that removes functionality, not adds it
 
@OrgnlDave It doesn't remove anything.
It simply makes it impossible to happen by accident.
std::array<int, 10> a; int* ap = a.data(); // good
 
I accidentallied my pointer to your array
 
8:29 PM
aniline ( c6h5-nh2 ) is making with: benzol ( c6h6 ) mixing with sulfuric acid ( h2so4 ) and nitric acid (hno3 )
so , you could make a tetryl:
 
If you can't understand why int a[10]; int* ap = a; is problematic, I can't change your mind.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes but seriously outside of a wrapper for generic STL algorithms what benefit does it bring my life?
 
@OrgnlDave I've told you.
 
| Section2 = | Section6 = | Section7 = }} 2,4,6-Trinitrophenylmethylnitramine commonly referred to as tetryl (C7H5N5O8) is a sensitive explosive compound used to make detonators and explosive booster charges. Tetryl is a nitramine booster explosive, though its use has been largely superseded by RDX. Tetryl is a sensitive secondary high explosive used as a booster, a small charge placed next to the detonator in order to propagate detonation into the main explosive charge. Chemical properties Tetryl is a yellow crystalline solid powder material, practically insoluble in water but solu...
 
8:30 PM
It can be copied, assigned, and doesn't decay to pointers.
There, three benefits.
 
Yeah, fuck C arrays.
 
I'm not doing anything, so if you ask again I can repeat it again.
 
If you need an echo, I'm here.
 
Ell
when do you actually use c arrays anyway?
 
@EtiennedeMartel do not fuck them , just learn algorithms and make better stuff , than std::array :)
 
8:32 PM
@Ell Oh, I asked that before :)
 
@Ell In Minix, where C++ is dead with STL also :)
 
14
Q: Now that we have std::array what uses are left for C-style arrays?

R. Martinho Fernandesstd::array is vastly superior to the C arrays. And even if I want to interoperate with legacy code, I can just use std::array::data(). Is there any reason I would ever want an old-school array?

Basically, size deduction and string literals.
 
Ell
fair enough :L.... when do you actually use minix anyway?
 
I have to go, I would like to pick this discussion up later if you're around
 
8:36 PM
@Ell I'm using it as mail, chat server right now I know I can use better OS for this purposes, but for testing using this :)
 
Ell
@user1131997 actually I have recently been very interested in minix
 
by the way you know you can do int a[10]; std::array<int, 10> = new (a) std::arrayin<int, 10>; right? may have forgotten an & there I forget, gotta go
 
@OrgnlDave What for?
That sounds totally useless.
To be blunt, straight up stupid.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes for doing the same thing is int a[10]; int *p = a;
 
@OrgnlDave I don't want to do that.
 
8:37 PM
except with an std::array
 
@OrgnlDave Right. But since int* p = a; is such a horrendously stupid thing to do, I'd never, ever want to do that.
 
There's a data() member function to get a pointer to the first element.
8 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
If you can't understand why int a[10]; int* ap = a; is problematic, I can't change your mind.
 
I'm intersted, why such funcs as qsort() in standart headers are in need to use callback functiom template as:
int compare(const void *a, const void *b)
{
return (*(int*)a - *(int*)b);
}
and I must excplicity define it in code
why don't they code all stuff in headers?
 
sbi
 
8:41 PM
Because qsort is a C library function.
 
grumpy bonobo has posted himself
 
std::sort works just fine.
 
woks?
whatever.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion That. Is. A. Gorilla. Will you finally learn that?
 
@sbi it's of the same species, so same difference
 
8:41 PM
i agree with james
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I know, but they can code it in header exactly and don't require programmers to do it by themselves
 
@TonyTheLion Are you correcting me?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes essentially
lulz
 
@user1131997 Right, and do what? Guess what the programmer means?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes fishy!
 
8:42 PM
lol
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion If bonobos and gorillas are of the same species, then you humans are of the same, too. However, that is not so according to the biological use of the term species.
 
I'd love that, but I have a feeling I'm awake, and there's this pesky reality thing tying my hands.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes don't know what does it mean :) please tell me :)
 
@sbi give the man a cigar!
 
@user1131997 If I what I want to compare are not integers?
 
8:43 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes then it's better to use templates for such aim
 
Right. But qsort being a C function, it can't use templates.
 
@sbi oh, I'm sorry, I'm not in the right mood to get pedantic
 
That's why I mentioned std::sort.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I was asking earlier about template emulation in pure C :)
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Oh, well, so lets be sloppy and say that you are a bonobo, too. Ok?
 
8:45 PM
@sbi I'm perfectly willing to be a bononobo :P
 
Ell
we are doing about bonobos in biology
they make a calm community with lots and lots and lots of sex
 
you're doing bonobo's ?
 
Ell
they are very incestrial
 
@Ell That sentence doesn't make sense.
@TonyTheLion What's a bononobo?
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion yeah its a reproduction practical
@RMartinhoFernandes did you get the gist of it?
 
8:46 PM
oh, and this conversation is about to turn into a sexual one
and this time it wasn't me
@RMartinhoFernandes shit, you got me!
 
@TonyTheLion Right. It wasn't. You were just the one to mention bonobos, one of the most highly sexually active primates.
 
sbi
@Ell No, they aren't. When it comes to animals, incest is siring offspring with close relatives. Bonobos don't do that.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes meh, than why am I the Lion?
and @sbi the bonobo?
 
gah, all these errors I couldn't decipher. Turns out I can't spell unique :/
 
something's wrong with this picture!
 
Ell
8:47 PM
@sbi siring?
 
sbi
@Ell beget, father, procreate
 
Mistakes? We don't make mistakes.
 
Ell
I'm quite sure mothers & sons have sex in the bonobo community
 
I know virtually nothing about bonobo's
 
sbi
8:48 PM
@TonyTheLion The picture, you big, stupid, dumb cat, was of a gorilla, not a bonobo. You were the one who mentioned the most highly sexual active primate species.
@Ell Having sex is not the same as causing offspring. And, "when it comes to animals, incest is siring offspring with close relatives."
 
@sbi oh, I think I just pissed off the bonobo! :(
 
Ell
Sorry my bad, I didn't know incest meant children
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion The gorilla! Damn. What have I done?!
 
@sbi wut? The picture is a gorilla, but I thought you were a bonobo in disguise???
well, disguise, is not really a disguise, because most everyone knows
damnit, why am I so stuck on Bonobo's???
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion You don't want us to explain that to you again.
 
8:54 PM
yes :P
 
Fuck. I dropped my laptop.
 
that sucks
don't do it again
 
Why do I have to be so clumsy?
Why???
 
donno
 
because else, you'd be imbalanced
 
Ell
8:55 PM
you dropped your laptop?
 
you tell us
 
Ell
wow
because the only reason people live is to suffer. Being clumsy is just one way people can suffer
 
> because the only reason people live is to suffer.
wut?
 
Ell
Thats how I see it :L
 
sbi
@Ell The reason incest is is shunned is that it causes birth defects. Since sex causes children, we shun incestuous sex. (Yes, we've put a moral code around that, but in the end, it comes down to genetics.) If it wouldn't cause children with birth defects, we wouldn't shun incestuous sex. Bonobos do lots of sex for resolving conflicts, not necessarily for making babies.
Females bonobos will usually change to a different group when they become sexually mature, so there is no chance of incestuous sex causing offspring. Consequently, bonobos have no inhibition to have sexual contacts with close relatives, even with their own children.
 
8:56 PM
@Ell meh, isn't that a bit very depressing?
 
people live because of evolution
 
Everything still seems to be working.
 
there's no higher purpose to human life and there never will be
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion yeah :L but its true
 
the puppy has spoken from his wise wisdom :P
@Ell in your view :)
 
8:57 PM
woof
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion of course :)
 
@DeadMG Crocodiles count as failures or as successes?
 
sbi
Not only has the robot a defect RAM module, its manipulators are also defect.
The final products of the metabolism have truly met with the rotating part of the air condition.
 
@sbi That my manipulators are defective is nothing new.
 
8:59 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes Failures or successes according to what criterion?
 

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