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3:02 PM
Another thing I noticed is that the FOV doesn't quite seem to match up, like the Rift is displaying a slightly larger FOV than it actually creates
 
oh really?
I only noticed that in one games loading screen
 
it's more noticeable at the edges
very similar to concave glasses
minor enough that it's not very noticeable
 
do you wear glasses?
 
idk if it's related to the distance between my eyes and the lens
@Loktar no
 
ah ok me neither, but I heard of some weird issues iwth peopel with glasses
due to not having the correct padding for them
 
3:03 PM
not yet anyway
 
oh also, did you make sure the back is at the base of your skull?
lol I know it seems simple, but the back comes down way further than a lot of people expect
 
took me 2 weeks to finally realize
 
it's pretty low
idk exactly how low it's supposed to be
 
I was partially losing tracking when I turned my head and didn't know why
not the best example..
 
3:05 PM
terrible
 
but its supposed to sit pretty low in the back
idk you may have it right, just figured id point it out
 
does the read hair come with the headgear?
 
when I slide it to what I would describe as the base of my skull, it doesn't even touch my cheeks
 
yeah I had to mess with the straps a bit
but basically the rift shouldnt even press on your face at that point
just hang on your head
 
3:08 PM
yeah ok i'll try it lower
a lot of pressure on my brow though
is that normal?
maybe the side straps are too tight
 
no, there should be no pressure really
it should be almost loose
 
SO is down?
 
Uhh it seems
Cloudflare issue?
 
@Loktar so the pressure should be on the top strap?
 
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Error 502
 
3:10 PM
522 for me
I have never heard of 522
 
522 is not connection timed out -_- da hell CF.
 
@Neal I'm getting that right now too
 
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@AwalGarg lol pretty sure it is....
 
Weird that chat still works
 
3:11 PM
different server?
 
@KendallFrey yeah and just a tad on teh sides
like it should fit just a bit snug, but not crazy hard
you shouldnt have a red ring around your face when done
 
it's not uncomfortable the padding is good
but yeah i did have a red ring
 
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@Neal seems like it:
~ nslookup chat.stackoverflow.com | grep address -i
Address:	192.168.0.254#53
Address: 198.252.206.29
~ nslookup stackoverflow.com | grep address -i
Address:	192.168.0.254#53
Address: 104.16.36.249
Address: 104.16.35.249
Address: 104.16.33.249
Address: 104.16.37.249
Address: 104.16.34.249
~
 
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Apparently CF uses their own codes
 
3:13 PM
also, what's the deal with it being so warm when idling?
is that so keep the lenses from fogging?
 
@KendallFrey yeah idk I asked that on reddit
I think its just the same as a wall wart getting warm when it stays plugged in
since the components are internal
I just unplug the USB to stop that from happening
my lenses have actually never fogged up
 
mine neither
I don't want to go unplugging stuff all the time, my PC is buried in the corner under my desk
 
yeah hopefully they just release a fix for it to fully power down
I do love how it doesn't fully turn on until you put it on your head
I used to be paranoid about the DK2, since it also used OLED
and you can put it on your head anytime and it brings it out of sleep mode, even w/o oculus home running, it will just auto launch it
 
yeah i was confused about that since you had said something about Jacob not turning it off one time and you told him to
and I couldn't find any way to turn it off
 
yeah the DK2 would just stay on until you manually turned it off
the screens would, and OLEDs are prone to burn in
 
3:17 PM
yeah you mentioned that
 
oh hey did you notice any of the red tint on dark scenes?
 
nice, lucky man
mine has it in the right eye, it isn't terrible but it's annoying in all black scenes
 
I prefer interracial, not all black
 
Can more RO's please participate? github.com/JavaScriptRoom/moderation/issues/16
Thanks
 
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3:19 PM
@ndugger lol rabble rabble rabble. Make problems out of internet chatrooms
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 3 mins ago, by Andy
The only proper response to an outage is rapid pressing of F5 on the off line page. The internet says that fixes things.
 
It's back up
 
@ton.yeung nah it isn't that bad
I opened a support ticket
they mentioned a software solution in the works
there is a thing called SPUD that can be disabled via the registry
it cleared the issue up for me
so I have confidence a software fix will take care of it eventually
lol yeah idk why its called SPUD
 
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@KendallFrey I saw someone else complaining about this and they were blaming the camera
 
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Said they disabled it (not sure how you would do that lol) and it stopped
 
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3:23 PM
So at least it's not the screen?
 
weird
 
no, def not the screen, it's off
reddit says it's oculus home
i exited, see if it cools off
 
by reading that document?
 
not a big deal for me, I don't pay for electricity :P
 
3:24 PM
I was linking it to someone else and saw the hash. So I thought I'd share it here too.
 
!!should I write upsampling algorithm in JS?
 
@Abhishrek Absolutely not
 
@StackStatus I don't know how to do my job now. Please hurry.
HA!
 
Okay :-)
 
@KendallFrey it will still stay a tad warm
but if you had oculus home running it keeps it warmer for sure
 
3:26 PM
@Loktar does using VR affect your vision outside of it?
my peripheral vision feels weird now
 
haha no
 
It isn't down here. It is working in India. That really explains just how terrible your condition is.
 
lol
i don't get that
 
but the first time i used the DK1, like the first 2 days I would get random boughts of light headedness out of nowhere
and my kids each threw up randomly
like almost exactly 24 hours later
was really weird. I posted on reddit and some others confirmed the same thing
 
2 hours ago, by Kendall Frey
man this is weird, it seems the the Rift has given me a heightened sense of depth perception IRL
 
3:28 PM
that would be terrible lol
only one game on a 2d display has ever made me feel nauseous
 
@Loktar Well, it's exactly 24 hours since I finished setting up the Rift now
I never felt nausea, just general screen fatigue
InMind was pretty disorienting, but I knew that was coming
 
@KendallFrey try Eve Valkyrie :P
 
I will, eventually
 
@ton.yeung yeah on the Rift that is crazy annoying, but in FPS's it never bothers me
 
try rebecca black :)
 
3:30 PM
@KendallFrey that isn't actually unheard of.. let me try to find the articles. they've fixed people with no depth perception by showing them 3d stuff
 
oh yeah I heard of that
 
I had depth perception before
 
hrm, seems it was accident.
 
Ugh, why isn't this working? jsfiddle.net/Trasiva/fu372n2k
 
3:31 PM
but yea, there it is
 
it's just noticeable today
hard to explain
 
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@Trasiva It works for me
 
@Josiah Did you get the notification sound?
 
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Why would I get a notification sound? There is no code for that
 
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3:32 PM
Or do alerts make a sound and I have never heard it lol
 
@Josiah Uhhh, there is. Is your sound on?
 
@Trasiva alerts don't make sound
 
@rlemon @ndugger would I be wrong in saying Cerberus rarely even participates here
looking at an issue...
and idk mens, he is rarely even here
so it kind of annoys me overall.
 
@Loktar I don't see him on often, no
 
like rarely participates.
 
3:34 PM
@Loktar he does -- not as often as some of us, but he does
 
I see that with a few owners
 
@ndugger This one does if you look.
 
and I wonder, why the fuck are they owners?
 
iirc he's in the NL so timezones and stuff
 
@Loktar he's here multiple times a week
 
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3:34 PM
@Trasiva Nah alerts don't do that
 
@Trasiva <3 that was good
 
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@ndugger lol you suck I wanted to make him believe it didn't work
 
@Josiah See? It worked for Dugger.
 
I think you should be a pretty active member in the chat to be an owner honestly
 
Lol
 
3:35 PM
otherwise you miss a lot of context and day to day things.
and randomly coming in and binning messages is stupid.
 
@Loktar he does
like, almost every day
just not in your timezone
 
@FlorianMargaine barely.
It was mostly a rhetorical question
 
@ndugger I can't take 100% credit for it, I got the idea from Lemon's Michael Jackson moonwalker.
 
I'm here all the time.. besides when I go to sleep
and I know he isn't pumping out 500+ messages in the 6 hours I sleep
 
I'm here even when I sleep
 
3:36 PM
If anyone has time
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Q: On click scroll to div doesn't work

JohnDotHRSo I've got this simple setup of images and divs. On click of the div, the website should scroll down to another div. Everything seems alright but for some reason, it doesn't work. I've attached a jsfiddle to the bottom of the code. Here's the code: <div class="block-2"> <h4>Choose your...

Should be simple
 
I sleep here
 
@Loktar he and I have about the same number of messages per day
 
I sleep with Lemon, so by proxy I'm always here too.
 
he had more messages than me last week
 
@FlorianMargaine and you don't particpate as much anymore :p
 
3:37 PM
@MadaraUchiha ping
 
and aren't an owner
 
no really, I fell asleep with my face on the keyboard once and woke up and the input box was at the limit
so I've chatted while sleeping
 
oh
I have close to 150k messages in this chat
oh
 
@FlorianMargaine I dont mean you aren't a crazy active user in general
 
@rlemon you got over 400k!
 
3:38 PM
I just mean lately you haven't been as active
 
yea
 
@Loktar yeah I know, don't worry
 
if activity means owner, I'm the chat.SO owner
#winner!
 
^
I think it should be a well rounded mix
to be an owner and only pop in once or twice a week is dumb.
or one message a day, ect.
 
I think fly-by owners should be removed, but that would cause a lot of people to become upset
because they would take it personally.
which I can't say I wouldn't either.
 
3:39 PM
If kicks aren't punishment, removing owners shouldn't be considered punishment either.
I'd rather see someone like @ton.yeung be an owner
 
@Loktar yea, but honestly.. if you were deROd you'd at a level take it personally. I would
 
@Loktar Mmm, kick me harder Loktar. HARDER.
 
he actively contributes frequently.
 
I have to assume most would.
 
@rlemon yeah.. but I'm here
almost every day, for hours.
 
3:40 PM
@Loktar I'm in here on a daily basis. I don't always participate because I also have things like work to consider.
 
So ofc I would think that is kind of dumb
 
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Just take votes where your message count determines how much your vote is worth
 
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@rlemon makes all decisions lmao
 
\o/
 
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And Cerberus loses to Dugger 4:1
 
3:40 PM
@Loktar we already tried making some like that owner
 
@ssube it used to work that way until the great purging.
 
Those couple of messages that were removed were really not adding anything to the room. Maybe I shouldn't have removed them, but they really don't add to the room.
 
idk there are plenty of barely active users that its weird to keep as an owner.
 
@Loktar the last combative troll we made owner turned into shit show #9
 
They are cool people, but I guess cool person === owner.
 
3:42 PM
if anything, we need fewer ROs again
 
3 mins ago, by rlemon
I think fly-by owners should be removed, but that would cause a lot of people to become upset
 
If you guys want to revoke my RO status because of this, so be it. I think this is being blown way out of proportion.
 
@ssube I still think of you as rather new :p
 
@Cerbrus Neither does your message about how they don't add to the room; should I bin this too?
 
no one will remove badger, or when she is she gets re-added.
I love badger, she doesn't do anything to be an owner
 
3:42 PM
@Cerbrus nah it isn't due to that, it just got me thinking how rarely I ever see you
 
or even contributes anymore
 
@rlemon exactly
 
we need to agree, stick to it. or it isn't going to happen because others will re-add their friends.
 
@Loktar Cerbrus tends to be on in the morning, you're on later in the afternoon
 
@ssube Didn't you have a recommendation for a good IIS parser?
 
3:43 PM
@Loktar: I'm in the last month of my study.
 
@Trasiva IIS?
 
The last few months have been busy
 
@ssube 9am - 11pm is a good portion of the day
 
So yea, less active.
 
@Loktar it's 3pm here when it's 9am for you, ftr
 
3:43 PM
to include Sat + Sun :p
when the room gets weird af.
 
@ton.yeung lol I'm sure some do. some list SO rep
 
@ton.yeung I did, that's how I got my job
 
@ssube Internet Information Services. Logs of the analytics.
 
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@Cerbrus has 10K messages here and has been here for years... He clearly isn't anywhere near as active as even @Trasiva who has been here a year witht he same contribution. Just saying... You aren't here a lot
 
your "9am" is noon or so here
 
3:44 PM
no, I'm kidding
 
@Trasiva no, I don't mess with IIS at all.
 
I'm too ashamed of such a room
 
can I just state that activity alone shouldn't depict owner status
 
!!s/weird/jquery/
 
@ndugger when the room gets jquery af. (source)
 
3:44 PM
@Josiah To be fair, if you look at it of a quality vs quantity, Cerberus is much higher.
 
@rlemon activitely should be a major consideration though
I can't be an effective manager of a store if I only show up once or twice a week
 
lack of activity should
 
@Trasiva Well thank you.
 
activity alone doesn't prove anything
lots of trolls are active
 
activity should be a minimum requirement, not the deciding factor
 
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3:44 PM
@Trasiva But activeness is what's being discussed :P
 
@ton.yeung
you can always use Cap for that
 
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@ton.yeung Yea
 
*Sigh* Nothing like trashing a few messages on a friday afternoon to stir up 17.
 
in the sandbox*
 
@Cerbrus It's true. I mean, I'm still learning at getting better with my JS stuff. @Loktar deflated my ego significantly. :(
 
3:45 PM
@Trasiva :(
 
@Cerbrus mocking the issue doesn't help your position mate
it is what it is
now we deal with it
 
Right, then I expect all parties involved to post level-headed responses.
Is that acceptable?
 
@Loktar It's okay, I've been working with ES6 lately, while doing debugging stuff to get more familiar.
 
you can expect that
but two wrongs don't mate a right
 
@Cerbrus then you and Nick should step aside and let other ROs weigh in
cause you're both just going on with the same argument that started this
 
3:46 PM
@Trasiva well, he has the vive and the rift...
 
How can I do a circular shift on an ArrayBuffer?
 
@ssube In favor.
 
arr.push(arr.pop())
er, shift
 
@FlorianMargaine Well, I was more addressing the fact that he told me I didn't have the basics for JS, lol.
 
@Charly I don't think any facility is provided for that, you'll have to go at it manually
 
3:47 PM
oh
 
@FlorianMargaine He -clearly- has more money than I do with a dozen kids, than I do single.
 
@Charly you have to write your own algo to do that
(or take over an algo and use/modify it)
 
okay thanks
 
:/
 
3:48 PM
why should it be specific to ArrayBuffers? The shift -> push solution from normal arrays would work fine.
 
@Trasiva that's just because he's old
 
plot twist I just manage my money poorly
 
@Loktar Even bigger plot twist. I manage my money well.
 
like, soon-grandpa-old
 
wealthiness is not expressed in money or what you have on your bank account.
 
3:49 PM
@Trasiva honestly, not to insult you, but you have some pretty bigs gaps on JS -- accepting that is far better for your future growth than denying it
 
(or pop -> unshift depending on the direction you want)
 
plot twist, I don't manage my money, it just kind of happens
 
@FlorianMargaine If Loktar becomes a grandpa soon, someone's gonna die.
 
@ton.yeung don't put your glasses too close
 
@rlemon ...that's why I've been working on personal projects and had you do that code review.
 
3:50 PM
@ton.yeung read read read, write write write, review review review
 
Writing code is the best way to get better at writing code
 
best to visit an optician for tha
 
@Trasiva yea, I'm just saying, when you say it deflated your ego that is a tell-tale that you were in denial about your JS abilities.
moving forward, accepting that and learning more is going to be better than staying in denial
I'm just pointing that out so you can feel better about the crit.
@ton.yeung I think everyone will always have gaps.
they just get more edge case
there is a lot of JS I still don't know or understand.
and I feel pretty competent with js
 
@rlemon Oh, I'm just busting Loktar's balls man. I -knew- I had gaps. It's hard when I don't get the dedicated time like a lot of you guys. Like @Loktar and @Josiah discovered in that job interview, I'm spread really thin.
 
^-- saw that
tss
 
3:52 PM
:p
 
same, I eliminated PHP and C# from my job
 
I've been kinda like that for 8 years now
just kinda doing everything
 
now it is all JS / bash and now a little python
 
Most of the JS work i do is on SO answers/here in chat
 
@ton.yeung Like I was saying yesterday, I wrote some debugging tools for -myself- in ES6, and my boss yelled at me because he was trying to use IE10 for -my- tools that I intentionally didn't write backwards compatable.
 
3:53 PM
also, I've decided to finally learn Python, my SD card cloner is all python
 
@AwalGarg shift/push can only move the positions of elements in the array, for TypedArrays (or ArrayBuffer) I'm trying to let every individual element change too.
 
@rlemon grooooosss
 
So I could try to shift less than 32 bits so that every 32-bit word get seperated
 
ahh you mean the value itself. sorry then I misunderstood your question :)
 
@ssube nahh, I needed something other than node for embedded stuff.
python has a crazy amount of embedded apis already
 
3:55 PM
it has
 
@rlemon C#, ASP.NET, JS, C, C++, aaaaand XSL. : /
And...and jQuery :(
 
I deal with C and C++ at my work, but I don't write it
 
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@SterlingArcher did you read about BangFit?
 
mostly alter/debug/read
 
I'm somehow still unable to understand why python such so small interpreter
 
3:56 PM
@KarelG the syntax is still fucking with me. ; and {} everywhere
I'll even add the : and still do {
:/
 
@rlemon yeah, I know. We use Python for a bunch of stuff.
 
@ton.yeung No, they made me take a Ruby course though thinking they were going to implement the website into that. I took the course and then gave them a resounding absolutely fucking not.
 
it's useful because it's on almost every OS from stock
 
yup
 
having used it, I don't like the syntax or stdlib much
 
3:57 PM
yeah, that syntax sometimes confuses me because i don't use py often
 
@rlemon We use C/C++ for our embedded system.
 
to get node working on the shit embedded environments I need to use super crazy old node
like node 0.10
I'd rather go with something else at that point
 
Python actually feels a lot like Scala, in how it mixes paradigms
 
when compiling, it shows error and i was like " dammit, what for syntax issue did i have caused "
 
I'll post the code I wrote... but be nice. I know it is shit
I'm just happy it works
I have about 3 hours python experience now
 
3:58 PM
@rlemon Don't worry, indy is scared of snakes.
 
That's 160 more minutes that I have.
 
you're a weird person, Cerbrus
 
I'm Dutch, what'd you expect?
 
I'm your neighbor
So, not much
 
3:59 PM
Hah
 

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