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4:13 PM
> This Library is well documented and easy to use.
Except that the Readme (and the Wiki, and any other form of documentation I can find) all refer to this GeocodingEngine as an example, which was removed about 2 years ago
Despite the Readme itself being updated 14 days ago?
 
remove the line and make a pull request :)
 
Yep already on it
 
(This Library is well documented and easy to use. <- this line ?)
 
Yep!!!!!
Just removed well documented and
 
lol
 
4:18 PM
cos it's still easy to use, you just have to dive into the Tests project to figure it out :D
@JohanLarsson just #region Internals'd some of my code to deter n00bs
 
I'd use Voodoo as region name ;)
 
:D
Good call
 
you can add some more sprinkling in there on long statements like // don't ask me why this works, I was told by deity to do it this way and since it works...
they shouldn't be in voodoo section in first place.. but if they are.. this will reinforce they shouldn't meddle with code that even you don't understand!
 
There is actually 1 part of a codebase we maintain that has a section like that
Actually 2
 
all code bases older than a few months end up having a section or two of voodoo .. especially if your devs have changed in that time :)
 
4:27 PM
I recently did :(
 
/**
 *
 * To Rudi or anyone else, don't try to fix this.
 *
 * It's not nice, but COM is crap. Don't fix it, just leave it well alone, pretend it doesn't exist. If you must
 * touch it, TEST(!!!!!!) its interop with a COM client. Specifically FoxPro as COM marshals it to a FoxPro
 * array, which can't hold .NET objects (Employee).
 *
 * "Here be dragons"
 *
 **/
 
:D
 
^ That is all because of this
    /// <summary>
    /// Com version of the EmployeeApiArray that keeps all of its nastyness. SHOULD ONLY EVER BE USED WITH COM.
    ///
    /// Please do not use this with .NET as it's unnecessary overhead.
    ///
    /// If you need to accept a ComEmployeeApiArray somewhere - DON'T! Instead, use IEmployeeApiArray and call
    /// .Marshal() to get an EmployeeApiArray (even if it already is one). This ensures cross compatibility.
    /// </summary>
    public class ComEmployeeApiArray : IEmployeeApiArray
 
there needs to be another line!
 
It makes no sense, and I remember looking at it after 2 years thinking "wtf why is there .Marshal() this can't be relevant anymore"
Well I broke a lot of stuff that day
 
4:28 PM
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup
 
Hehehe
 
Aparantly the origin of that is from this: “Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger” is from The Fellowship of the Ring (1954) by J. R. R. Tolkien (1892-1973).
 
Well I'll be sure to include it in future here be dragons references :D
//// Crap, now time to do the interop.....................
//// Wait for it to supposedly write the shit ARGH
//// Now open up the PRE UPDATE REPORTS WINDOW (AAAAAAAARGH!)
//Logger.LogDebug("Should be closed now.");
 
lol:
 
This codebase is horrible
:D
 
4:32 PM
yea I saw that and then ended up at a dragon decal and in related found the above
when I get my i8 or whatever .. i'll put that on :)
 
Definitely a requirement now
 
2 messages moved to Trash can
Rudi you gotta find some love for Cellos and give me company for the 2Cellos concert in july :)
(no not the classical stuff!)
 
youtubes
Oh wait they're on Spotify
This is cool
 
I'll recommend you what Lynn recommended me as intro: Thunderstruck
took me an hour to become a fan girl, screams :)
 
That's next up after With or Without you
 
4:37 PM
yea with or without you is good
 
This is almost as good as Pentatonix
I mean in recreation of existing songs in other mediums
 
highway to hell is good cover - where streets have no name or you shook me up all night
their smooth criminal was the main track that got them soaring
that track changed them from 2 youtubers to dudes with Sony label backing them
 
I'll keep listening. I'm bored of my "Sexy R&B" and "This Is How We Do" playlists
 
@RudiVisser don't understand
 
Just winding you up since you hate Regions
 
4:41 PM
:)
I use them sometimes for collapsing bloats
But never for constructors properties etc
 
I imagine Johans code to read as such:
/ Here be dumbs.. steer clear /
 
and the poor peeps miss out on all the brilliant magic that follows
cos god knows if i knew half the dumbs that you write, i'd be a big shot!
(still mortal of course.. but big mortal!)
 
Advanced code is a pretty big smell
 
hp+5!
 
4:44 PM
Currently stuck on Adele <---
 
@Maverik can't parse
 
lol i'm on 2Cellos until further notice
@JohanLarsson it's ok :) that was a gamer reference :)
 
lol and lol
People are so much fun, I just don't understand
 
that's what happens when you share your password with your ex!
sharing i suppose isn't the bad part - forgetting to reset it after the ex status update is!
 
Yes :D
Mav 2Cellos actually got me back listening to more MJ
 
5:01 PM
ok theoretical question: I* have a large number of POCOs in different namespaces that'll need to be transpiled from c# to JS in order to enable interop
 
Importantly, their "They don't care about us" cover is awesome
 
should I make a big poco project (the models are shared in multiple projects) or go with specialized poco projects)
 
IMO, one big project if they're all relevant to the grand scheme of things (ie. all of these individual components may be logically separated, but they still form part of a single solution and thus require each other)
 
so far I'm motivated to make a big poco project because one key project will use all of those pocos
 
/agree
 
5:03 PM
the reason I have a doubt: this will also end up on user's server and I'd want to trim it down to only relevant pocos (messages)
POCOs are basically Json Messages typed for C#
not all messages will be consumed by all projects & of course since this will also be used on client side to send the messages, not all clients will send all messages
 
So why not do it in some structure like PocoLib.Core and PocoLib.Interop
 
the key project is the router that'll do the business logic based routing and of course it'll need to know about all messages involved
 
Your main project would include both and the others would just include interop - it still seems more logically structured from what you said
 
yea I'm following your logic but that makes me think i'll end up with something like Poco.Core, Poco.Client1, Poco.Client2 (for client specific libraries)
not sure what the .Interop would do?
the sad thing about .Client1 & .Client2 is - they're the exact same message POCOs except in different namespace
 
I'd see it being an amalgamation of Client1/Client2, so it's all the libs that your clients (all of them) would use
Oh right
Well that's less fun
 
5:08 PM
(basically message exchanges are automatically created based off their c# namespace and i have no control over that)
 
Yeah I see what you mean now
 
if i use the same message type for all clients .. they'll get broadcasted to all of those clients
needless to say, sending users info from one client to the other (even if htey'll never see it ) won't make the compliance guys happy
 
lol yes
 
why do i end up in such stupid situations.. i often wonder but fail to find an answer
 
Sounds like a weird way to do the message routing, but hands being tied makes the reasoning irrelevant...
 
5:10 PM
well its because the message framework isn't multi-tenanted
so I have to force its hand
I could spend another month or two easily just to learn Autofac.Multitenant & then another month to attempt integration with MassTransit
but my peeps have kinda had it xD
they're like "I wants it nao!"
 
Sounds about right
 
I believe this shows their sentiment
 
Evil cats
 
5:30 PM
so actually router thing.. that's the forcing my hand thing.. i dont actually need or want that.. but it's the only way to ensure the messages never get routed to a tenant that shouldn't get them
 
5:45 PM
heh.. FutureProgrammer shared this from CodePlex
 
6:06 PM
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2016/01/19/on-net-12-17-2015-miguel-de-icaza.aspx
.NET Blog
On .NET 12/17/2015–Miguel de Icaza
Bertrand Le Roy
1453225766
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2016/01/19/on-net-1-7-2016-mads-torgersen.aspx
.NET Blog
On .NET 1/7/2016 - Mads Torgersen
Bertrand Le Roy
1453225927
 
that's.. unusual O.o
 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2016/01/19/on-net-1-14-2016-unity-3d-with-jonathan-chanbers.aspx
.NET Blog
On .NET 1/14/2016 - Unity 3D with Jonathan Chanbers
Bertrand Le Roy
1453226099
 
Amagwad.. They broke Feeds!
 
6:23 PM
what is the last number and who is Bertrand?
@Foggy feeling better?
 
yeah, thanks
 
good, glad to hear.
 
I'm still at the point 5 of the tutorial
Can't understand as use .the sql script
 
I'm happy to say I don't know any sql
 
6:37 PM
push one of your projects to github now
you can delete it after
just so you have done it once
Do you have a project with a local repository?
 
I will try now
 
Do you know where to start?
 
I click on all buttons =)
so, probably, no
 
ok here goes:
 
@JohanLarsson last number is most likely unix epoch
Bertrand is the author of blog, before that would be the post title and before that is the blog name
 
6:47 PM
1. On Github click the + to create a new repository, give it a name and create
2. Copy the url
3. In git extensions for your local repo, click manager remotes, add a new named github and paste the url
4. In git extensions click push and select the repo you named github
the name is not important of course but github makes sense to me
@Foggy ^ from memory so probably slightly off, ask if anything is strange
 
thanks, I'll try
 
never hesitate to ask, no point in you struggling imo
 
think it turned out ^_
 
is that good?
 
yeah - incredibly =)
 
6:57 PM
nice!
You woke up a boy and go to bed as a man tonight :)
 
Have you started using git when you code now?
 
No, just watched capabilities Git Extensions
but now only git
 
command line?
 
no
Now I can take a break and go listen to Vortex (from cycle 'Sten' [Chris Bunch, Allan Cole]). I like sci-fi =)
 
 
3 hours later…
9:40 PM
hi
 
hello @anhelo
 
hello
 
hello
 
hello
 
maybe here I can find a person who can help me a little bit with jquery? Since all groups are dead now and I'm noob. Since this group isn't about it :)
 
9:52 PM
There are more web devs in the c# room I think
But you can ask of course, I have only used js very little but it scarred me for life.
 
@anhelo A long as you're ok with us saying "sorry, can't help", you can give it a try.
 
@anhelo, what is the question?
 
i'm trying to use .each() function and inside I'm trying to check if element hasClass. If atleast one element doesn't have current class, I need to return false. Actually my code works when all elements has a class or doesn't have. :/
 
I don't know JS, but ... to search the error should be fun. Can see a code ?
 
of course -> prntscr.com/9sa2fi
 
10:10 PM
I thought about mcve
 
@anhelo I'd think your logic would be more like:
function check() {
   foreach (item in set)
   {
         if (!item.hasClass)
             return false;
    }
   return true;
}
 
^ offensive :)
 
That way, if you detect a single item without, it short-circuits checking the rest
@JohanLarsson FINE. I'm going home then.
(commuting in < 10 minutes FYI)
 
@LynnCrumbling I meant the js
 
Oh, hah. Agreed.
Thought you meant the algorithm :)
 
10:19 PM
Oh, fun - love it when feedback on a library makes it so you want to rewrite the entire thing :p
 
who wrote what?
 
been getting feedback on Gjallarhorn - think I'm going to rewrite it
or at least gut it and change how it works significantly :p
 
what was the feedback?
 
some questions which led to discussion on how data flows through
going to really kill the concept of mapping of mutables entirely, I think
 
so no chipmunk
 
10:23 PM
Hi guys
 
Bit of a simple question. I moved 3 views to a view folder I created. I didn't do this in the solution explorer. I did in in the folder on my machine locally.
 
@Reed Copsey, oh no :(
@Brian J, hi
 
Now there is a warning on these 3 files, when I try to move them to the new folder from solution explorer. It says they cannot be found.
Any ideas what I messed up there?
 
10:25 PM
The files are in my folder locally, but not in vs in solution explorer
 
screenshot
I'm out - catch you all later/tomorrow!
 
edit the .proj file manually is perhaps easiest
 
Right click -> remove probably.
 
@anhelo, maybe, this:
 
I tried unloading/ reloading the project
 
10:26 PM
function lol()
{
$(".woocommerce-cart #globalForm table.cart")
  .each(function() {
	if($(this).find("tr:nth-child(3) td div").hasClass("uzpildymas"))
	  {
	   $(".woocommerce-cart #globalForm).addClass("paeis");
	  }
}}
 
ok
 
you should be able to delete teh files with triangles and add them back from their new location
 
ok my mistake, I had moved them locally but not on vs
so it didn't notice the change
thanks
throwing into the navigation_failed event now, must not have updated the class and view names when I moved folders
 
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