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7:00 PM
@ElimGarak but bartek created Hate!
 
@melak47 "Cat, I am your father" - Bartek
 
I should make a talk on how stealing open source code is great, then I would call it "work stealing" and annoy everybody looking for talks about work stealing threads.
 
if ( listIndex.enemy->isSubclassOf( Sentient ) && !act->GetActorFlag(ACTOR_FLAG_UPDATE_HATE_WITH_ATTACKERS) )
 
@Morwenn lol
 
I... think I might have to use a heap for something that's not heapsort. It would be the first time.
 
7:04 PM
use stack instead
its automatically sorted
 
You guys can all enjoy both Elite Force I & II source code today! I like to browse it a little every once in a while to reinforce my superiority.
 
@nick Don't you mean std::priority_queue?
 
@ElimGarak where the fire started /cc @sbi
 
@Borgleader Can't help but feel disappointed, I expected more from them given all the money dumped into those places.
 
@Morwenn does that guarantee L1 caching
i didnt think so
 
sbi
7:06 PM
@Borgleader Looks like from a room.
 
But yeah, probably only the insulation burning, the damage overall should be pretty low and "skin deep". There was a similar fire in Russia, they repaired the hotel fairly quickly, no casualties.
 
@nick I don't know, but a bare stack doesn't guarantee anything about ordering.
 
Still, if it started from a room, a single room, how was it not contained before becoming that huge column we saw earlier =/
 
Wonder if they'll go through with the firewokrs.
 
if you use a proper language like TurboPaskell it does
 
7:08 PM
@Borgleader Once it cut through the layer to the insulation, it's pretty much free to continue. :D
But the damage is limited to the outer layers and will stay there if the firefighters do their job.
Here it is in mid-progression. Man, imagine being responsible for a little fire that turns into that.
 
where's that fire?
 
@nick That's so random .___.
 
@TobiasLangner Dubai, Address Hotel
 
7:10 PM
@TonyTheLion sup bby, partyin' hard?
 
@TonyTheLion <3 <3 <3 <3
 
@TonyTheLion Alone for NYE.
inb4 depression
 
@Morwenn youre not alone, you have us <3
 
@ElimGarak not really, I have to be up early tomorrow and I have to awake
 
7:11 PM
@Morwenn I'm alone a bit yes
 
China had a reversed issue.
 
but I love you for the entirety of 2016 <3
 
@Borgleader I don't even know whether you're real or whether every regular is single troll :(
 
@Borgleader <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
 
@TonyTheLion ♥ <3 ♥
 
7:12 PM
 
@Morwenn sniff T_T how could you
 
China sucks pretty bad, tho
 
@Borgleader With a keyboard.
 
@ElimGarak oh lord almighty
 
@Morwenn we're real. I've met some of the regulars, they are all different people
 
7:12 PM
I can't help but be mesmerized by the fire, tho
 
@ElimGarak Welcome to Hell
 
I think that fire was the biggest one to date.
 
fries 1 : 0 salad
 
7:14 PM
@Borgleader Reminds me of my ex, always did that.
"Nah, I am not hungry, you eat"
Food comes, om nom nom
It's cute the first time, the 10th time you want to bury her in the desert.
 
@Morwenn ugh :D
 
Oh, I remember that one :D
 
Man, that's just wrong :D
Grand Theft Auto: Seattle
 
7:25 PM
oh TBB's pipelining thing is neat. I can see a potential use in compiling many shaders.
well first i would need many shaders to compile... minor detail.
 
Switch to 2:50 for getting rekt with weapons fire
 
lol:
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A: Delete a pointer c++

user5734758🎵🎶 HIT ME RENE ONE MORE TIME 🎶🎵 FACE PARTY :D :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD :DD ...

 
heheh
 
@melak47 this ones for @Mysticial
someone passed Ballmer Peak and reached Valley of Dumb
but orange & black, or maybe orange and yellow?
 
@Borgleader Is that real or a render?
 
Man, that guy got rekt with gun fire. I can't get over how many bullets got unloaded.
@Borgleader Now I want it to because reasons :D
 
lol im looking at some old renders i did, and while i find them terrible, i feel like i should get back to 3d modeling
 
3D modeling is a chore, though. :/
 
eh, i find it relaxing, its just im terrible at it: a) plasteel cylinder b) lightbulbs, c) kotor taris appartment
 
@Borgleader No smoothing groups allowed! :D First step towards visual quality. :D
 
@Borgleader The last one does evoke some SW :D
 
@ElimGarak smoothing groups dont exist in Blender (i dont think)
 
@Borgleader Equivalents (normal/vertex weighting) :D
Basically, one should average it with no discontinuities, use edge loops to attain proper normals. :D
 
Modeling automobiles should help you get some nice shapes in.
 
7:53 PM
I had modeled a thing from AC but i cant find it =/
 
As we're building a police game, I thought it cool to replicate the car from Hawaii Five-0 :D
 
@ElimGarak Oh good lord, I'm terrible at anything curvy =/
 
Model an extremely topologically wrong mesh, but that it feels really fluid and shit... And then retopo. When carving out the volumes, never think about the topology. :D
Good thing about most things is that you can only build half of it and let symmetry do the other half.
 
@ElimGarak What is wrong with Dodge? Too many engineering mistakes?
 
@Jaden There are also Dodge Chargers, but many of them are patrol vehicles. Although, in the game, they are called Evade Dischargers.
 
7:58 PM
@ElimGarak I can't seem to do that, because usually when the topology is shit, the surface is all fucked in that spot.
 
@ElimGarak The 4 door? I was thinking Challenger.
 
@Jaden Ah, the police only uses Chargers in the US, never seen a Challenger
@melak47 Let it :D Just get the volume right. The retopo you do later on fixes that. :D
 
@ElimGarak I don't get that. How can the volume be right if the mesh is all wobbly and shit?
 
If you can't afford geometric continuity, separate some pieces and let them protrude into the primary mesh
@melak47 It shouldn't be wobbly and shit :D
Have an example of your work? :D
 
@ElimGarak right, so I have to fix it. But how do I fix it without fixing the topology? :p
 
8:01 PM
You make the primary volume, then activate a retopo mode that most modeling packages have and then use the depth values of the surfaces to literally draw a proper topology on the volume beneath. Starting at the primary curves that you wish to keep and interpolating in between. :D It's hard, but worth the effort. :D
A retopo, in my case, usually starts with a simple plane. :D
 
@ElimGarak I dont know how to retopo.
 
Ford was incredibly cool about stuff, as long as we don't use the logos and make some alterations here and there.
I like how the car itself looks like it is angry.
 
@ElimGarak The other thing that bugs me about retopo, is i feel like its doing the work twice, you model it once then you go over the whole damn thing again.
i cant do it for shit, but from the videos ive seen thats what it looks like
 
@Borgleader YES! :D That's the thing that pissed me off initially.
It feels extremely redundant and you invest hours and hours into something and without a wireframe render, nobody knows the difference. :D
 
example. you'll recognize the shape :p. it looks sort of okay, but the topology's a mess, and if I put a shiny material on it, it shows:
 
8:08 PM
And then you come to rigging and unwrapping, realize how easy you've made your life
@melak47 Yup, that's a pretty good start. Now you identify curves that you want and trace out a new topology that follows those curves and goes outward.
Unfortunately, there is no silver bullet for retopo, no tutorial to make it just right every time. :D Sharp, but smooth edges are so fun and enticing to look at.
 
What I don't get about that is this...if I don't know how to fix the problem in the first place, how will a retopo help? :/
 
Retopo is the problem fixing. :D You can smooth it out with a smoothing brush in the original topology, if that's what's bothering you. :D Or you can skip it and do the retopo which completely ignores the bulge.
One of the mistakes I perpetuated in 2006 was making meshes with a "proper topology" from the get go. I thought I was being smarter than everyone else, "fools doing the same thing twice". Boy, I've never been so wrong in my life.
youtube.com/watch?v=RYjt1-TEQk4 <- Click for Ubisoft ahahahah
 
> This video contains content from Ubisoft, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.
 
Ubisoft fighting ISIS
 
automatic copyright claim fuck up?
 
8:15 PM
Nah, intentionally, the author placed concept art from Assassin's Creed as a representation of an "islamic state"
And the video has since been reuploaded and already has 50k views.
 
im confused =/
 
And used the same image again ahahah #fuckubisoft
@melak47 I tried activating the new Metal rendering mode in UE4, wanna see the results? :D
 
sure :D
 
Too metal for UE4 (crashed 5 times on both my MBP & desktops, not cherry picking)
 
so pretty
 
8:19 PM
But you know, they did say preview. In the final version, I trust the error window will render properly. #zing
 
go bleeding edge and pull from master, 4.12 pre-preview :p
 
> Adnan Khalil Jet fuel can't melt Dubai buildings.
 
FHitProxyDrawingPolicyFactory
 
wchar_t const*
 
@ElimGarak did you get the "get a message starred 12 hours before/after new year" hat?
or @Puppy
 
8:29 PM
@bitcode I don't really even know what all this hat business is all about.
I see no hats. I've seen references to hats for years, never seen one.
 
> post a message in chat within ±12 hours of the UTC New Year’s begin that gets starred
this one? i got it
 
star me and I'll tell you a secret
 
no
be funny, and stars will come
 
Or go to the 2nd Monitor on Code Review chat, they star everything.
 
ok. two guys walk into a bar. they drink and go home early cause they have to work the next day.
good joke
deserves stars
@Morwenn getting a message starred in the C++ lounge is more fulfilling.
 
8:32 PM
@bitcode Tell us how much you love cock
 
Partying would be more fulfilling.
 
Happy new year!
 
@ElimGarak cock the chicken husband?
@Morwenn I agree. lets party
 
My new years resolution is gonna be learning C++, I am still a Java scrub.
 
8:37 PM
Oh, it's that guy again
 
@SuperstarGamer-Trent gl
 
@Borgleader Thanks :)
 
More like RIP.
 
last time I got a message starred I was making fun of social justice warriors. but talking about this issue could get me a banned before I get a star.
 
I love stackoverflow
 
8:40 PM
I love this so much.
 
Lock Pathologies Intel making it sound serious
 
I was reading OpenGL tutorials and on the fourth(?) one it said: "This is the most important tutorial, be sure to read it at least eight times"
 
@SuperstarGamer-Trent You're going places
Puppy has only read it seven times.
 
I never finished reading it. I got distracted and started derping around with Netty and Bukkit.
 
@Morwenn happy new year
 
8:45 PM
How much does it take to open one fucking port on Windows
 
@SuperstarGamer-Trent You're ready to write tutorials of your own
 
@набиячлэвэлиь not much
 
@ElimGarak plz no, not another Cinch
the internet already has too many
 
@ElimGarak It's no Battlestar Pegasus
 
@bitcode Thanks :)
 
@ElimGarak OpenGL? Puppy read one tutorial one time and then he walked away
 
@Puppy what do you use for graphics now? tell us master
 
I don't
 
@Puppy console window > 3d crap
 
I investigated the graphical scene but the code quality is so poor that building a good solution would entail so much work on my part, I decided to investigate other projects
 
8:57 PM
And it is only getting worse... MTLRenderPassDescriptor* descriptor = [MTLRenderPassDescriptor new];
 
@ElimGarak Everythign is worse in Obj-C
 
everything is worse when it's not written in c++ or python. there you go. I said it. go ahead and judge me.
 
@Borgleader @autoreleasepool me a river, bby
 
@ElimGarak when i write obj-c i @autorelease a pool of shit
 
I feel bad that I actually am familiar with the ObjC spec, even ARC internals. Had no choice, couldn't feel even remotely comfortable without going through it.
Still feel dirty when I use it, ugh
What I don't know is how the fuck do I copy something over the network from one OS X device to another. AirDrop is Bluetooth-only...
 
9:05 PM
OSX: Making trivial tasks into printing in 1990
 
std::vector<typename std::list<Iterator>::iterator>
Totally reasonable.
 
it's been a while since I saw a mod chatting here. when I joined the chat there were like 2 or 3 mods talking here all the time
 
that's an unusual situation
 
@bitcode That's a good thing.
Mods are only remotely interesting to JavaScript/HTML&CSS/Python folks.
 
I thought it was normal, cause I remember madara was trying to explain to me the conecept of function as first-class citizens. I thought they used to talk to people.
 
9:09 PM
Now that I think about it, it's probably the first time in a while I use a list.
 
@bitcode Oh, wow, you're new here :P
 
@ElimGarak I used to be newer
what's your new year resolutions people?
 
@bitcode 3840x2160 x 3 in width
 
nooooone at aaaaall
new year resolutions are silly
 
I don't remember having ever had new year resolutions.
 
9:13 PM
just drop the facade and stop lying to yourself
 
4096x2304, if we count the 5K iMac
 
@milleniumbug It's not silly if it can help people to actually do things. But it's useless for most people.
I mean, we always say "I'll do that later, one day", new year resolutions can help by being that day.
 
Reflections, on the other hand, are a good thing
 
I am pretty indifferent to year increments. Day as any other. As a kid it felt special because I was told it was special.
 
I'm gonna lose some weight. that's my new year resolution.
 
9:16 PM
 
@ElimGarak Now you're a typical cynical lounger and numbers don't matter anymore.
 
@Morwenn I've got chips stuck between my teeth and it is annoying me.
Are stores working still? :(
 
Seriously, reasoning about 2~3 levels of iterator indirections is hard.
 
It's no different from being a three star programmer
 
I don't manage memory. But the top layer has to be a vector so that I can std::make_heap it and another layer has to be a list so that iterators are not invaidated when I erase them.
 
9:21 PM
Always make stuff simple. If it's not, decouple it until it is. If it can't be simpler, you've achieved balance, bby.
And I'm freeeeee, freein' memory.
 
auto let_it_go = [](auto x){ free(x); };
 
Physically fit.
 
@ElimGarak I could have used a priority queue instead of a vector, but the number of inndirections would have been the same.
 
@Morwenn Sometimes you've got to go deep, bby.
Watch out for Adele.
 
9:27 PM
I like simple and elegant things, and I'm sad when I have to write something else :(
 
@Morwenn Except now you aren't dabbling with heaps
 
@milleniumbug Honestly, heap operations make things easy. And using std::make_heap on a vector once is more efficient than inserting the values one by one into the priority queue.
 
I feel like plugging in my Strat, but effort.
 
9:29 PM
@StackedCrooked Wooo, good one
 
I love :)
 
I love happy things too :D
 
@Morwenn That's, like, an array of pointer pointers
 
@ElimGarak Her voice always commands my attention :)
 
9:32 PM
@Morwenn IMO the STL-style adapters would be more usable if you could move in or move out the underlying storage
 
@milleniumbug I have to agree.
 
@Morwenn but it doesn't super happy
 
@StackedCrooked you accidentally a word
 
Dumping stuff to CON is a great idea, surely
 
9:33 PM
I's on purpos.
Actually. Haven't drunk anything yet. Simply been on my pc for too long.
 
@StackedCrooked Hahaha, indeed. I really like this piece but it would be better while reading some Ryu Murakami then when partying :)
On the other hand... I cannot into party tonight :/
 
@StackedCrooked 'S OK 'till you make dents in the case
 
Oh wait I can just derive from the adapters and provide the operations myself
 
@Morwenn why?
 
How come I always skip more words when I write English than when I write French?
 
9:34 PM
@milleniumbug rip
 
@bitcode I'm sick. I could still party, but I don't want everyone else to get sick.
> Happy 2016, enjoy your fucking cold.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь c is a protected member, so clearly someone thought of that
 
@Morwenn s/r/rself/
 
Wha...
 
@Morwenn necrophilia
 
9:37 PM
@Morwenn you drink everyone under the table?
 
@StackedCrooked Haha.
Ok, some happy music now.
 
@Morwenn oh, didn't read that line
that sucks :/
 
Under the table, yeah.
 
so naughty :O (or am i reading something that isnt there?)
 
@StackedCrooked It's a free excuse to get out of jail free
 
9:44 PM
Yes, Rihanna, you're the only one yay
 
PHP sucks
(a day without bashing PHP is a wasted day)
4
 
Poop Hoarding Processor
 
> Rihanna & Katy Perry - Only Horse (In The World)
 
@ElimGarak I haven't heard any songs by Rihanna I actually like
 
9:52 PM
@Puppy To be fair, you're a tough crowd :P
 
I am not a crowd
 
Daisy doesn't count?
 
no
 
Tough singleton. :/
 
this is the best song in GTA V: youtube.com/watch?v=2tsM_uY_fKw
 
9:58 PM
@bitcode Pretty good, yeah
 

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