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1:03 AM
@joshhunt nice loader... and in 4.4Kb
 
wait is that good or bad?
 
1:19 AM
that's good
at least the alternative is not vectorial like yours
@joshhunt you can change loader size and the final output will have roughly the same KB count
also i counted the spaces also
 
that's true
 
3.4K optimized
 
including gzip?
 
and it can be further optimized but with decreased readability (eg. 1letter names)
excluding gzip
that's a bonus over the whole thing
so yea, cool
 
^ which is essentially what gzip does as far as I know
 
1:27 AM
it makes sense, now the next thing would be performance across browsers against gifs and animated pngs
 
performance in what sense? support? fps?
 
cpu hit, fps if you will
you know how to benchmark stuff luke that?
lol got code to 3.1k, and could even drop more
 
nope
 
@joshhunt FF dev console -> Performance ->record, wait,stop, check
kinda taking a hit in FF, Chrome seems to manage the animation better
 
hmm interesting
 
2:15 AM
maybe you could do something to optimize the animation?
i'd really like people to start thinking about that
@joshhunt maybe even star/pin that ^
 
2:42 AM
Hey guys, I'm working on some html from scratch, got any first rate sites you could point me at for the most modern, well-done, SEO'd, html? (CSS and JS don't really matter to me at this point...) Suggestions are very welcome.
 
@AaronHall what are you wanting to examine?
@CSᵠ I swapped width/height with scale, see if you notice any difference
 
same pen @joshhunt ?
 
yup
 
@joshhunt not sure it made much of a difference, i didn't time it initially
anything else possible?
 
Mmmm meta tags, how articles, sections, asides, headers and footers are used/nested, any important things I may be missing...
 
2:53 AM
@CSᵠ not that I know of
 
@AaronHall i dont think meta tags really do anything anymore, at least not as far as search engines are concerned
 
@AaronHall the best resource is probably MDN
 
MDN, eh?
 
@cimmanon they do.. but they're worth much less than before
like hundreds of times less
 
They probably need to jive with your content.
 
2:55 AM
anyway, they do have meaning and should be used but never abused
 
@cimmanon The description meta tag is used by Google if it decides that it is appropriate. Keywords doesn't
 
@AaronHall design to the latest adopted html standard
 
html5?
or whatever Firefox and Chrome accept?
 
html5 is the spec now
 
Why is stuff supported in Chrome but not Safari? I thought they were both webkit.
Safari probably gets behind...
 
3:00 AM
because Safari was on a vacation when Chrome was polished.
 
@AaronHall Chrome uses its own fork of webkit called Blink
 
Ah...
 
3:26 AM
MDN mentions a picture element but w3 schools doesn't. I wonder why...
devdocs.io mentions it too
ah, because it's not fully supported...
 
4:24 AM
it's a 5.1 iirc
@AaronHall follow this w3.org/TR/html (not a permalink)
 
and css2.1 for a safe bet
check css3 with caniuse.com
 
you must have foreseen what I was typing.
 
:)
 
:)
Thoughts on this template? gist.github.com/davidcochran/7190172
fixed.
 
4:31 AM
wrong room?
@AaronHall would you like to link to it working also?
 
I'm guessing that's a negatory.
 
> The HTML Code Element (<code>) represents a fragment of computer code. By default, it is displayed in the browser's default monospace font.
you used it semantically wrong
 
Me? That's not me.
 
@AaronHall also use of <time> is wrong, and pointless maybe
@AaronHall huh?
 
That's some guy named Cochran.
 
4:35 AM
@AaronHall shit, whoever
 
politically corect: it's used... *
 
Yeah, I've been putting some stuff together and it didn't seem that great.
Hey, I'll find a gist that has my stuff...
Tell me what you think of this... gist.github.com/aaronchall/d8c735e5206531189af0
 
@AaronHall py?
 
python? yes.
I'm thinking a user would actually use the meta stuff moreso than the text stuff, probably leaving that to markdown. A markdown engine could use the objects, though.
 
4:47 AM
nvm
 
ok... :)
What side of the world are you on?
 
@AaronHall looks ok
 
Thank you very much so!
 
@AaronHall can't pick sides, living on a giant ball
 
You're either with me or against me.
 
4:50 AM
yes!
 
just kidding, gotta hit the hay, though.
 
hah
 
that means go to bed, if you're not familiar with the idiom...
 
just got familiar
must be an old one
 
I'm told I can be condescending. That means I talk down to people.
^^^ My all time favorite joke.
 
4:51 AM
well, good thing sound bounces off everything
 
ok, good night for real!
 
gn dude
 
hello
 
oi
 
oi
I have been doing intro html/css. looking to hook up with someone to take me to the next level, like a mentor type of thing. kind of.
i've been doing a lot of back end with rails and want to jump into front end
 
5:03 AM
why?
 
cause i find front end fun as shit but feel limited to online stuff like treehouse
would love an actual front end developer to show me the ropes
 
nice
you came here trying to contract someone?
 
nope. i came here trying to find someone to share some time to help me learn
figured it was worth a shot
 
posted on October 15, 2015

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
i helped some newbs with ruby and rails...was seeing if i could find a guide myself. not gonna be all upset if no interest. just don't wanna be trolled
 
5:07 AM
@Jguzik83 that's what your request looks like
otherwise.. hang around and maybe ask some specific things
 
not my intention. i guess i'm looking for a mentor type person
 
lol
still looks like trolling
 
i've never asked like this...(yeah it does)
lol
i went to school with someone that had a mentor
they always seemed a head of the curve
 
did that person pay the mentor?
 
guess i'm trying to ask someone of the same
 
5:09 AM
or maybe his daddy paid him?
 
no...actually she just hooked up with this dude
 
boom! there it goes
 
but not sexual
lol
she met this guy and they worked through a bunch of backend stuff
it was all ruby and rails
but he became her mentor and helped her along the way
i don't think sex was involved
 
i don't think the mentor knew that
lol, rolf
 
haha
i'm just looking for someone to help me get better. I found that when i was helping other people with ruby i got better myself.
 
5:12 AM
@Jguzik83 teaching is the #1 best way to learn
and learning is the worst way to learn
 
without a doubt
ugh...
 
:)
 
but someone to help me with new shit would be great too
i hear ya
ive been spending so much time with JS/jQuery, HTML/CSS
 
@Jguzik83 well, wth are you interested in?
 
getting better with Javascript
I've been trying to do more vanilla JS to get better at DOM manipulation
its just there is so much in the MDN its tough sometimes as a newb
i've been doing javascript for like 7 months and I consider myself a huge newb
 
5:17 AM
vanilla is the wtg!
 
sure but with some guidance...
 
when you get that you can jquery & other libs, not the other way round
 
jquery is easy for the most part. i want more guidance with OOP
like i get classes and models, modules...
but with ruby
i would love some guidance with JS oop
 
Object oriented JS by Stoyan Stefanov
Best book for OOJS
 
Isn't OOP similar in all languages?
 
5:20 AM
yes, but no
 
true
 
oop concept != oop implementation (+- features)
 
anyone build conway's game of life? i want to do that in JS in a MVC style
 
Concept might be similar, but how you implement is totally different
 
yeah thats a good point
I'm just struggling transitioning from ruby to JS
i feel like i've gotten off point from this chat room "html/css/dom" . I love front end development and although i've been taught backend i'm really trying to transition to front end
 
5:26 AM
you can be in the js room at the same time..
 
2 rooms at the same time? is this back to the future?
 
yes, wow, 1970
 
how many gigawatts is that?
 
B
 
:)
 
5:29 AM
Mardy and Doc. One of my fav.
 
not biff?
 
CS and Tushar: great talking to you tonight. i would really love if you could spare some time to help me get better at web design. I'm not a total newb and can keep up. Would love if you could help. My email is jguzik@gmail.com. Thanks if you can, thanks otherwise. :)
@CSᵠ @Tushar : thanks
 
meh
dude, you don't get it
 
you sound like my wife
:)
stupid cookie clicker game
I'm not trying to beg. I don't mind if you say no. Life goes on
Thanks for entertaining me either way and will be back again soon
 
 
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8:12 AM
codepen.io/fbrz/pen/Hgqmd Interesting concept for password inputting
 
Abe
8:31 AM
@all someone knows if there are issues with new browsers when serving the page as xhtml?
 
8:44 AM
@MadaraUchiha I don't get it
 
Abe
@PraxisAshelin you need to repeat the same tap pattern
 
8:57 AM
tap pattern?
Like morse code?
 
@Cerbrus Something like that
@PraxisAshelin You need to tap in a certain pattern to unlock
Click "show password" to see the pattern
 
@MadaraUchiha it's too hard I can't get it right lol
It keeps telling me wrong after first tap already :(
 
Is it ok to ask questions about SVN here?
 
Abe
@PraxisAshelin lol. i found it was too simple instead
it's 5 taps - pause - 2 taps
 
9:14 AM
@PraxisAshelin Everything you say is innuendo.
Dunno how you do it.
Bravo!
 
@PraxisAshelin Try it with your left.
 
9:28 AM
Lol
 
Abe
@Sippy rofl
 
That tap rhythm password thing ..
Inspired but probably flawed lol
 
@MadaraUchiha a nice idea to drove client away ;)
 
@NullPoiиteя psh
 
whats good in it? i am not getting it right in 2/5 attempts, and now think about normal people who dont use computer much
 
9:45 AM
posted on October 15, 2015 by Mary Lou

Some inspiration for effects on image grids. The ideas include animations on the opening grid item, the disappearance of the grid and the resulting view. Effect Ideas for Image Grids was written by Mary Lou and published on Codrops.

 
Abe
@PraxisAshelin it's actually a famous theme i don't know how it's called
but notes are A# F# F# G# F# C# B
 
Taps don't have notes
 
Abe
but the timing is the same.
 
Timing a theme does not make.
Exception: We will rock you.
 
This is the best thing I've seen/heard all week
 
Abe
10:08 AM
ahaha
:any would be much better if it was:
div.bar any(> p, > h1, ul, ol) strong
 
10:52 AM
o/
 
\o
 
@MadaraUchiha relevant reddit - thread, there are some really nice "remixes" in there :) reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3iyycg/…
 
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Elaiyai am using makeeditable in datatable.i unable to use makeeditable for individual column,another column also can maleeditable.But i need only one column use makeeditable for that row.The program , "drawCallback" : function(settings) { $('#enquiryTableId tbody td') .editable( '', { indicator ...

Wat
 
Abe
haha
 
Please format your computer — Abe 2 mins ago
Yes.
 
11:00 AM
hahaha
 
I don't have sound here, but I know that scene, and I know that clip...
Made me laught xD
 
Abe
11:26 AM
@GNi33 ahaha
cc @MadaraUchiha
 
 
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1:37 PM
@Abe that's where you'd use :has()
@Abe The rhythm is the famous "knock knock" pattern on doors
In music, the call "Shave and a Haircut" and the associated response "two bits" is a simple, 7-note musical couplet or riff popularly used at the end of a musical performance, usually for comic effect. It is used both melodically and rhythmically, for example as a door knock. Play "Two bits" is an archaism in the United States for 25 cents, a quarter. "Six bits" is occasionally used. The final words may also be "get lost" or some other facetious expression. In England, it was often said as "five bob" (slang for five shillings), although words are now rarely used to accompany the rhythm of the...
 
Abe
2:08 PM
@TylerH correct
seriously?
 
lol
there's my e-mail address invalid then
 
Abe
it's the dot in the username though, not the .org one
still ridiculous
 
yeah
mine has a dot in it
just use a concatenation of all your names
AbeWorfMarioWesabiKenobiEtc.
 
A lot of those fields are also blocking + from the address
 
Abe
@TylerH just tried but not getting my password
 
2:14 PM
are you trying to log in somewhere?
 
Abe
it's a registration form
waiting for the password in my inbox
 
@Abe nothing like email validation like its 1998 :p
 
@Abe coming via snail mail
 
Abe
2:59 PM
@easwee when it's your bday?
 
@Cerbrus that's also annoying, but not as bad as blocking the .
 
Abe
will probably have a friend to join in age3
will buy the 3 friends pack in case
 
@Abe next year :P
 
Abe
lol
why is it so hard to convince a bunch of people playing the same game
 
heh because of different tastes
I started playing clash of clans
whole team at work plays - we made a clan lol
 
Abe
3:10 PM
lol
 
more cheese = more holes
more holes = less cheese
more cheese = less cheese ???
 
Mind = blown
 
Oh my god
My whole life has been a lie.
jk I don't eat holey cheese.
 
you eat holly cheese
 
He eats Holy Cheese which has descended from the heavens
 
3:27 PM
morning all, is it possible to reset all styles within an ID? so if i have <div id='some-sort-of-id'></div> i'd like all styles under 'some-sort-of-id' to be reset.
but to try and keep the rest of the page keeping the styles. I'm creating a wordpress plugin and a lot of the CSS i set (even with !important) gets changed by whatever the theme and or other plugins use.
 
@SomeGuy Made by the holey hands of Jesus himself.
I mean holy.
whoops.
 
@easwee that game takes way too long lol
I've been at th9 for like 8 months
If I were in college I'd have maxed everything out in like 6 months of playing probably
@StephanMuller related:
Funnily enough, slowing down a moon will make it speed up. — Emilio Pisanty yesterday
 
3:44 PM
@easwee hah my son has been playing that lately
 
4:09 PM
@TylerH clan wars are what's fun about it - specially when you play with irl mates
 
Yeah I've been with the same clan for a while now
we are nearly level 6
the +1 level to donated troops is awesome
 
yeah
I'm still newb - lvl 29 atm
 
oh yeah, that personal level thing doesn't mean much IMO
I'm level 99 but I can beat a level 140 at times and level 70s regularly beat me, too
 
as long as you fully upgrade on each th level you are good to go
and farm-raid regularly
 
4:53 PM
could any help me with a stupid questions regarding brackets I haven't been able to solve
The site works on live preview via brackets but when opened in any browser - all the links and images are gone , what needs to be done here?
 
5:18 PM
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Q: jquery .prop() not working for dropdown with checkboxes

krishI am doing a small project with Mysql as backend, Flask as framework. When I load the page, drop down list should be populated with values from database (onLoading() in my code.When I select "All" option from drop down list with checkboxes(I can select multiple), all the options in the list shoul...

 
Abe
a friend and i just spent 3 hours trying to configure a router. HOW CAN WE NOT CONFIGURE A ROUTER. we updated the firmware and now it works -__- firmware V4
it took 4 version to realize NAT wasnt working -__-
how many engineers does it take...
 
Hahahahaha
 
Any uptodate resource that talks about css layouts?
 
5:33 PM
@Abe are you an engineer?
(bridge builder doesn't count)
 
Abe
i am an engineer. not a networking devices engineer, though
 
like you have an engineering degree, engineer
I really want to change the room name to HTML / CSS / DOM PÉRIGNON
@rlemon omg I just now realized that is my face
 
@TylerH go4it, but remember to undo it in a few hours
 
room topic changed to HTML / CSS / DOM PÉRIGNON: Read the rules: goo.gl/1eIjqY ▲ Don't ask to ask, just ask, and ask once! ▲ If you need help, post a minimal example of your issue, please. devdocs.io documentation often helps. [css] [css3] [dom] [html] [html5] [microdata] [responsive-design]
 
@Abe I placed the dom back into html, it's proper this way
 
5:43 PM
I will change it back after my 2:30 meeting some time
 
@TylerH what if they throw Tomatoes @ your eyes?
 
then I will catch the tomatoes and eat them
 
Abe
@TylerH i don't. 2 years only after struggling with work and study
 
@Abe cool so you're ~5e-1 engineers then
 
Abe
i don't believe in schools
 
5:49 PM
@Abe see what happens when you don't stay in school, couldn't even learn that churches are for beliefs, schools are for educating
 
Abe
lol
 
Hi everybody, someone using jekyll here ? I'm searching a way to add emphasis to title in jekyll (ex:

---
title: "*emphasis word* other normal word"
---


it's a templating choice and need headers to have emphasis part.

Thank you :)
 
Abe
i gave 18 exams though. technically i could get a degree in just a year
 
practically you could, after giving a few to "get back in the game"
 
Abe
yeah
 
5:51 PM
Should font-size be specified in px or pt for web? I have used px for decades but new dev team is using pt
please advise
 
Abe
pt lol
 
pt
 
@Abe What is that selector supposed to mean
 
Abe
use px or em
 
really?
yeah px for sure
 
Abe
5:52 PM
@BoltClock the > direct child
 
sorry, EM
dunno wtf i said pt
 
@Abe Do you mean you're looking for a direct child of div.bar that matches any of those things
(and then that child's descendant strong)
 
Abe
div.bar any(> p, > h1, ul, ol) strong

equals

div.bar > :any(p, h1) strong,
div.bar :any(ul, ol) strong
 
lol.. EM is ideal but pix for pt for sure..
thanks @CSᵠ
 
5:54 PM
@Abe ah
Yeah I don't think there is a good way to write that in shorthand
:has() doesn't work because div.bar:has(> p, > h1, ul, ol) strong doesn't make a connection between strong and any of those descendants (cc @TylerH)
<div class=bar>
  <p></p>
  <strong></strong>
</div>
:has would match this, which is incorrect
 
Abe
but selector:any(selector, selector) has use cases too
.and.and.and:any(or, or, or, or)
 
Yeah I'm just saying :any/:matches the way it works now doesn't allow any elegant way to write it and :has is not the right tool
 
Abe
it's two different things
 
If :any/:matches took a relative selector it could work conceptually but you wouldn't be able to fit it into selector syntax
 
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