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9:00 PM
in both OS's the default is to put yes on the right, cancel on the left.
Don't be a stupid stubborn rebel
 
I belivee it is from the experience that Right-Handed users find it easier to click OK on the right
 
ooooh get rekt
 
POSITIVE
 
@DaveS is this directed at me? I'm just following the convention, even though I don't like it.
 
9:18 PM
Dave S but on android the "default" changed
it used to be the other way and they swapped.
 
^
Dave's probably too young to remember those days.
 
lol
 
I didn't start developing till android 4.0+ so yea probably
seriously though, who the fuck uses a first gen android and hasn't adapted to OK on the right
any argument that it should be on the left is idiotic at best
 
dave gettin' ornery
 
9:26 PM
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Q: OK/Cancel on left/right?

ArtShould OK button be on left of Cancel button or vice versa? Are there any studies suggesting either of the solutions?

 
My argument isn't so much that it should be on the left now
But moreso that it didn't make any sense to change it when they did.
and that it certainly didn't make it less confusing like was the proposed reason for the change
 
This is the best answer there by miles
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A: OK/Cancel on left/right?

KostyaThe answer is in user interface guidelines for the system you use. For Windows Present the commit buttons in the following order: OK/[Do it]/Yes [Don't do it]/No Cancel Apply (if present) Help (if present) So Cancel is always on the right of OK button. For MacOS A ...

 
back ha
 
9:43 PM
I'm #4 on /r/programmerhumor :D
 
I was #1 on programmerhumour
in all time
yes yes, I have them funnies everybody wants
 
Ahmad, you hate on mine and @DaveS's bro puns, but think you're funny? ;P
 
my mum thinks so
in other news, just got my contract. Such an amazing location!
seriously, couldn't be more central
 
What I was trying to say earlier
is I have no context
oh hang on you're just moving out?
 
ooooooooooooh
damn
yeah, moving from one shared flat to another
I only had this one for 3 months
for the internship
now I got one for uni
 
9:48 PM
Second year?
 
my flat mates are techies! :D studied CS and all
nope! starting uni this year, just graduated HS
 
Gotcha
Wait why were you talking about the Redmond campus then?
 
haha I was just saying I might visit one day
for a week or so :)
 
oh haha
You totally should ;)
 
:D
 
9:50 PM
Nah the area is pretty boring tbh
 
really?
I thought seattle is really cool
 
@McAdam331 I'm up for a game if you are
 
Carl I haven't practiced enough
 
isn't that the point of playing?
 
carl, defend seattle
 
9:52 PM
lol
 
Seattle != Redmond
 
I'll defend one, not the other
 
you said area!
seattle is in the area ;_;
 
Fair enough
 
9:53 PM
Seattle is 30+ minutes from Redmond, and there's no way to take a train from one ot the other.
 
well
not fair enough
 
Sure. Want me to challenge or you?
 
You can take a bus, 45-60 minutes
 
you challenge
 
"challenge" is the wrong word mcadam
 
9:56 PM
pff it takes me 45 mins to travel from my current place to the office
just within berlin
a 30 min ride is nothin'
okay afk again
sorry guys for being so inactive these days; everything's stressful right now
Ima be online again in a few days
 
see ya later
 
@Ahmad haha ok you're right
 
btw, I forgot if you're at pennapps or not Anubian
 
@Ahmad np, hope everything works out :)
I'm not, only MHacks
 
okies :)
see you then!
 
9:59 PM
en.lichess.org/H4gOHC6wUGUS for those who want to watch.
 
my flight is on Wednesday
 
nite Ahmad
 
laters peeps
 
yay!
 
See ya, Ahmad
Hi, not Ahmads
 
10:00 PM
I'm watching, Carl.
 
see u guys tomorrow;
time to quit
 
cya Een
 
o/
 
See ya, Een
 
10:15 PM
in android how to achieve a listview grouped
like UITAbleVIew
in ios
 
Lol grouped how?
 
like section I meant
 
lol
I love the "how do I do this iOS thing on Android" questions
 
Isn't a UITableView the exact same as a ListView?
 
@meda ExpandableListView
 
10:26 PM
Is "customizeable" a word? It is, right?
 
And what Dave said
 
but it's customizable
 
gmail doesn't think so
 
not customizeable
 
10:26 PM
I tried that one too
 
Listen to Carl, he's the wisest.
 
so customisable?
 
no, a "z" instead of an "s"
 
not in her majesty's country that place where men with bad teeth and funny hats spell things incorrectly.
 
10:30 PM
I don't know but I just sent the email so fuck it I guess
I'm not sure any of the about 15 recipients would know one way or the other anyway
 
are you emailing my china team?
 
lol
 
I sent a slideshow with 3 options and the lady said, "No, I think the customer wants this" and I replied with, "Yes, that's in the fourth fucking slide!"
They probably taught your china team
 
ah, that's good to know, I was wondering who I could blame for ByteToByte(byte[] c);
 
But I of course had to apolgize and say, "I'm sorry, that's my fault that you can't fucking read. I should have made it more clear for idiots"
 
10:33 PM
apologise*
 
Damn it, Dave, they don't own us anymore
 
Working an adult job just means replacing "Fuck you." with "Okay, sounds great."
3
 
Today I'm going to correct American spelling with British spelling.
Then cursing about in a chat room
 
Lol, Mac!
 
> static public byte[] ByteToByte(int v)
{
byte[] s = new byte[1];
s[0] = (byte)(v & 0xff);
return s;
}
 
10:35 PM
you're kidding...
no possible way...
 
That's a real china team piece of code their Android team wrote before being fired
 
"before being fired"
 
unfortunately they still manufacture the grills and write the firmware
 
I see ByteToByte shocked everyone into silence
 
10:40 PM
Well ok I can see a low level engineer writing shit like that in Java
 
yeah but those people shouldn't be writing apps
 
No. I don't see it either.
The second I wrote XtoX as a method name I should have slapped myself.
 
lol
true
in context they are all XToByte that take an int as an argument
^ The old "SettingActivity" before I scrapped just about everything they wrote.
 
kill me
 
I must have read ListOnClickListener wrong, right?
 
10:46 PM
it was worse
I had to fix the bugs in that in a 2 week time period for the initial release, before I could redesign it from scratch
 
But there is a reason for the if/else, I just don't see it
 
there was a Server Mode that was broken and doomed to fail
I assume this was for that mode
 
You get 2 weeks to fix a bug? Fuck, I get one day to implement a bug free feature for an important customer. And they are confused on why I'm angry about it
 
no I got 2 weeks to fix both Android and iOS apps
 
Ah
 
10:48 PM
They managed their own "Back button" stack and overrode all the back button actions to achieve a broken version of the exact same thing Android OS does on its own
 
My guess is they just never read any documentation, had no idea what they were doing and tried to implement a self sufficient app without using any native OS features.
 
@Ahmad check out SpartaHack's new theme
 
If I had a dollar for every wheel they tried to reinvent I'd be a rich man
 
gotta go take my sick wife home
cya all later
 
10:53 PM
later Carl
 
See ya, Carl. Go take care of her
 
@McAdam331 daaaaang dude I like it
cya carl
 
11:27 PM
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