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user1804599
8:00 AM
Maybe Stack but I've never used that so I don't know.
 
It comes with the compiler and Cabal, which is what I needed for that particular task
 
I like JavaScript's Prototype-based OOP
 
beware
 
Banks sometimes don't make sense
 
Why is ghc over 60 MB big o.O
 
8:11 AM
Maybe you have a statically linked one. Mine is 1.3MB
 
> The good news is that, unlike Windows 8, Windows 10 is designed to work as a straight upgrade
 
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Q: Why is GHC so large/big?

Christopher DoneIs there a simple answer: Why is GHC so big? OCaml: 2MB Python: 15MB SBCL: 9MB OpenJRE - 26MB GHC: 113MB Not interested in evangelism of "Why I shouldn't care about the size if Haskell is the right tool"; this is a technical question.

 
Discrimination!
Thanks rightfold for ruining my combo
 
like every morning I enter the Lounge and @butte dominates the starboard
 
I believe I've done better than that before
 
8:15 AM
what's Spounge
 
@rightfold Huh.
@AndyProwl Like Lounge but spongy
 
that explains
 
user1804599
@buttifulbuttefly You're welcome.
 
@ChemiCalChems Dihydrogen monoxide kills! Ban dihydrogen monoxide!
 
@Neil It is highly corrosive and has high amounts of hydrogen! 100% of humans who have had dihydrogen monoxide have died or will.
 
8:19 AM
@ChemiCalChems absolutely.. it's a major part of acid rain
 
@Neil Yes, it is also called hydroxylic acid for something, you know.
 
many deaths have been caused by the inhalation of dihydrogen monoxide
 
Obama bans use of dihydrogen monoxide to torture prisoners, aims to increase students' access to dihydrogen monoxide.
 
@nabijaczleweli Bad Obama! Bad!
 
it has been found as an additive in certain junk foods
 
8:22 AM
@Neil It has been found in tumors in terminal patients.
 
Even in GUI patients
 
though it is used as a fire retardant, industries still put it in the food you eat
 
Causes explosions when mixed with alkaline metals.
This pond contains massive amounts of the hazardous chemical, look what happens when sodium is dropped inside.
 
@ChemiCalChems Ban dihydrogen monoxide1
 
@Neil Deadly! Deadly!
 
8:26 AM
If dihydrogen monoxide can react like that with sodium, one of two elements found in normal table salt, what are you doing to your children if you have them consume it?
 
those are so good
 
@Neil Exactly. They may explain spontaneous death among newborns.
 
Good thing Retardium is not a thing
 
> * Package 'dev-libs/boost-1.57.0' NOT merged due to file collisions.
SHIT
 
@buttifulbuttefly p. sure it is
 
8:29 AM
Just like I feared.
The package installs everything in a folder named boost, not boost-$version
I need to hack that myself :S
@LucDanton still not a week!
 
That’ll take a few days I’m sure
 
@Griwes Retardium has been found in all subjects who earlier had consumed dihydrogen monoxide.
 
user1804599
I want #switch, #case and #endswitch.
 
@ChemiCalChems Proof that should aliens ever search earth for signs of intelligent life, they'll be duly disappointed.
 
@Neil They surely would not even come. The concentration of up to 0.4% of dihydrogen monoxide in upper atmosphere is deadly.
 
8:39 AM
@ChemiCalChems touché
 
@rightfold Just wondering, what do you propose?
 
@Veritas Yeah. That's a good question.
 
I also agree that class hierarchies are very rigid for some games but alternative methods also have their downsides.
 
user1804599
Make classes that do one and only one thing and make functions that do one and only one thing and make modules that do one and only one thing.
 
There should be a Gentoo overlay that slots everything dev-related for this sort of thing.
It's a lot nicer to just have all versions in the same box.
 
user1804599
8:45 AM
And don't try to introduce relationships between types that are not necessary.
 
@rightfold So NPCs and Players aren't actors? Ok.
What are they?
xD
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Spend a few day's worth of work implementing it to save everyone’s time!
 
@LucDanton Tis what I fear is happening :/
 
Xeo
Do you have a bet with robot that it takes him a week to do whatever he is doing or something?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I should have said 'two months' then.
 
8:46 AM
Jul 24 at 15:46, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Kicked off builds for 3 GCC versions, 3 clang versions, 1 libc++ version, and 3 boost versions (sequentially). Bets for ETA are open.
 
Xeo
heh
 
I mean, all that was built already, just not as I wanted (all side-by-side)
Currently only the GCCs are coexisting.
 
The GCCs are peaceful and gregarious. They like to graze in hurds.
 
The boosts all install themselves on the same folder :<
 
Separation anxiety
 
8:48 AM
Gregarious Compiler Collection
 
Probably a terrible name.
 
They don’t say software folks are terrible at time estimates for nothing.
 
@rightfold While I agree with this, I can see how there might be similarities in this case
Though it may be more practical in the form of "items you can interact with" rather than "people"
 
@ChemiCalChems Some problems are just better solved with different abstractions. It's not that an Actor class doesn't make sense, it's that other approaches are possibly more flexible.
but that depends on the game
 
Columbo's in the house
 
8:55 AM
regretably so
 
Is it white? Green?
 
@buttifulbuttefly You don't understand: I just came to say bye bye.
 
à la nsync?
Or is that the back street columboys
 
Retardium was found in my body.
I just fucking stapled my thumb.
Could get the fucking staple out but holy cow it hurts one fucking hell.
 
if ! use python; then
    rm -r "${ED}"/usr/include/boost/python* || die
fi
lolwut
This ebuild is so stupid
After the build it removes the parts it was not supposed to build?
WTF
 
8:58 AM
I really don't know how this is not bleeding
i swear i saw the other end of the staple under my nail
 
@ChemiCalChems Wow, someone is outclumsying me.
 
Argh, so many paths hardcoded instead of in variables.
All horrible.
 
@Neil That was my reaction sort of. I said oh shit. Tried to get it out, couldn't went down for some pliers. It only really start hurting after I took it out.
But really, the adrenaline reaction was insane, my hand was shaking so heavily once I took it out.
Pain is starting to go away, thumb fully functional. Wow.
 
Wait, lolwut, the DOCUMENTATION IS SLOTTED PROPERLY?
Are you fucking kidding me.
 
Xeo
9:03 AM
lol
 
Are you looking at Boost ebuilds
 
Docs are installed to /usr/share/doc/<full package name>/html
Includes just go to /usr/include/boost.
FFS
 
I was wondering why my ink cartridges stopped giving any output despite reporting being non-empty
And it turns out they expired 2 years ago
 
> # boost's build system truely sucks for not having a destdir
Irony comment.
 
@CatPlusPlus Use printf, always works.
 
user1804599
9:09 AM
hahahaha
 
user1804599
this compiles in TypeScript
 
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class A { }
class B extends A { }

function owned(f: (A) => void) {
  f(new A());
}

owned((x: B) => {
  console.log(x);
});
 
user1804599
Anders Hejlsberg y are you a badlet.
 
Looks like slicing to me
 
extends = subtype?
 
9:11 AM
It's not slicing, it's contravariance
 
user1804599
@AndyProwl class B extends A makes B a subclass of A.
 
@CatPlusPlus Er, no, it's not. It's broken.
 
Slicing happens p much only in C++
 
user1804599
This program passes a value that is not an instance of B to a function expecting a B.
 
yeah, it's broken
 
user1804599
9:12 AM
And it all type checks and runs fine.
 
user1804599
Which is very dangerous.
 
Ah, I get it
 
Xeo
@rightfold ... how
 
Right
 
bad, bad indeed
 
9:12 AM
It's a design choice that has been explained
 
user1804599
@Xeo broken type system.
 
Xeo
how could anything that calls itself a typesystem allow that?
 
Anders > rightfold
 
Xeo
because A "could be" a B?
 
user1804599
9:13 AM
Anders is literally Breivik.
3
 
AlmostTypeScript
 
I'll bet the explanation mentions "productivity"
 
Probably mentions "JavaScript retardedness compatibility"
 
"you won’t need the right behaviour anyway"
 
Ughhh printing tax forms
 
9:14 AM
"it’s too complicated otherwise"
 
My printer is shit and I have to input every page separately
eeevery page
 
user1804599
Use a robot arm to insert the pages.
 
@CatPlusPlus you don't have online tax? (ie that doesn't require printing)
 
user1804599
oh shit
 
user1804599
9:17 AM
cool
 
> Co/contravariance is not an easy concept for a lot of folks to grasp […]
called it
 
user1804599
in Python 3.5 you can do [x, y, *args] and {x: 1, y: 2, **kwargs}.
 
user1804599
Finally!
 
@TonyTheLion It's not the personal income tax stuff, so it requires a proper certificate to sign if you want to fill them online
 
user1804599
Finally Python > Ruby.
 
9:18 AM
Python >> Ruby
 
And we don't have the budget for things like these, not to mention the time
 
ah makes sense
 
One of those forms is tax from company forming agreement which is funny
We owe the country entire 5€
 
@rightfold wat
 
And it'll probably take 3 hours sitting in the tax office
 
9:22 AM
@CatPlusPlus That’s like a whole sandwich. Pay up!
 
5 bucks? thats it?
 
I could use a sandwich
 
@rightfold This is just syntactic sugar for something you could already do.
 
> Step 6 : RUN emerge dev-libs/boost:1.56.0
[...]
>>> Emerging (1 of 2) dev-util/boost-build-1.58.0::gentoo
Seems wrong somehow :<
 
Xeo
off by 2
 
9:24 AM
Oh, no, it's right.
I decided to say fuck it and not slot boost-build.
 
Xeo
mh
 
Boost 1.56 can build with boost-build 1.58.
 
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My website is f*cked
 
user1804599
@Rapptz you don't say.
 
Yes I took the liberty to register it when it expired :)))
 
9:28 AM
@chmod711telkitty Seems 100% reasonable.
 
@ChemiCalChems is so metal
 
@MarcoA. The stapling you say? I really got nervous. xD At the end it came out ok, the staple has no traces of blood.
 
@ChemiCalChems I was referring to the avatar
I'm proud of you
 
@MarcoA. Oh sorry. Yeah. I'm metal.
 
We’re all relieved to hear that the staple made it out okay.
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9:34 AM
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Q: how to create manually a file for cereal import?

mojovskiI would like to create a (json) file manuyll (with python) and load it then with cereal into my c++ application. Saving and loading using ceral works fine. However, the polymorphic_ids in the json file are not clear to me. Here a more clear example: This is the object, which is generated by th...

 
> Registrant Name: HARVEY YAU
I guess that's not you.
 
user1804599
> Hi Rightfold,

How are things going for you now?

I see you have experience with Scala, c ++ and Go.
 
user1804599
> Can't spell C++ correctly.
 
user1804599
> Fuck off.
 
For a second I thought "Can't spell C++ correctly." was also part of the message
 
user1804599
9:38 AM
XD
 
user1804599
Another -1 for capitalising "rightfold".
 
ruby is retarded
and that's a fact
 
oh god, I don't want to be web-dev
 
@khajvah Def not.
 
9:55 AM
Makefile experts: Why do I seem to have to explicitly reference LDLIBS inside a program linking rule (e.g., "$(PROG): $(OBJ)\n cc -o $(PROG) $(OBJ) $(LDLIBS)"), even though CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS are handled automatically?
 
lol Make experts
 
Er. No, they are not handled automatically.
foo.o: foo.c\n cc -o foo.o foo.c doesn't use anything from CFLAGS
 
ah... I see.
 
You need Jesus
 
But does Jesus need me?
 
9:59 AM
@Will wot do u think
@will his father created u nah
 
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@TheArtist Why would I need a dead person?
 
@rightfold isn't he alive in the sky watching you?
 
user1804599
As a die-hard solipsist, I can't say for sure.
 
user1804599
All I can say is that I exist.
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10:03 AM
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Q: Is Firefox software halal?

MuzaffarIs it halal in Islam to use software with images of animals like Firefox web browser or Thunderbird? There are also some software components named after other religions' symbols or even gods - Pantheon desktop,Cerbere,Apollo, Pandora,etc. or some evil named software like Bluedevil. What does ou...

 
@TheArtist No it is dead and its corpse is probably non-existant by now
 
nice
 
The fuck
 
@nabijaczleweli how can u be so sure....
 
user1804599
How can you be sure of anything else that is said about him?
 
10:04 AM
@TheArtist According to (a single) book it was a Homo Sapiens
 
Why are all the smart people atheists ? :P
 
Therefore died at age of like, what? 40? 50, max. maybe
 
@khajvah wow... what a moronic answer
 
Age expectancy was way lower back then
 
@nabijaczleweli Not this again.
 
10:06 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't bite
 
user1804599
huh
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm gonna stop now before I got into full "plz be reasonable" mode on people
 
user1804599
what is chanserv?
 
@nabijaczleweli What do you mean by 'reasonable'?
Not being a dumb atheist?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ignores profusely
 
10:07 AM
Oh, so you didn't mean 'not being a dumb atheist'.
 
Not getting into debate over an old-ass book, that's it
 
Atheists who mention the Bible without the least knowledge about it are so annoying.
 
 
user1804599
@nabijaczleweli it has not been proven that humans can't be immortal.
 
ffs
@rightfold Yes, it has.
 
user1804599
10:10 AM
link
 
@nabijaczleweli What if we get into debate over other books, then?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes plz
 
It's fine if you're an atheist. I myself am one.
 
@rightfold What about reasonable argumentation? Cell replication is finite.
 
@nabijaczleweli ok r u referring to the bible or Quaran
 
10:11 AM
It's not fine if you're just repeating nonsense you heard somewhere.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Would be surprising if you weren't.
 
user1804599
Theist robots are scary.
 
@TheArtist Do you read? No. kthxbai
 
Hydra /ˈhaɪdrə/ is a genus of small, simple, fresh-water animals that possess radial symmetry. Hydra are predatory animals belonging to the phylum Cnidaria and the class Hydrozoa. They can be found in most unpolluted fresh-water ponds, lakes, and streams in the temperate and tropical regions and can be found by gently sweeping a collecting net through weedy areas. They are multicellular organisms which are usually a few millimetres long and are best studied with a microscope. Biologists are especially interested in Hydra because of their regenerative ability; they appear not to age or die of old...
 
user1804599
Hello. Do you have a moment to talk about Haskell?
 
10:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thank you. Most "popular" representatives of atheism are quite well-versed with the bible.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm talking about human cells.
 
*smells flamewar on the horizon.. go makes popcorn*
 
*takes sip of tea in anticipation*
 
@nabijaczleweli And FYI, according to that "single" old-ass book you mention, he died at age 33. There. Next time you don't have to guess.
 
It has been shown that the way that cell replication works in human cells is inevitably making the child cells unable to replicate at some point. I clearly remember this from biology class, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes plz no
 
10:14 AM
(I know how ridiculous this sounds, but I'm genuinely sure about it)
 
user1804599
Make humans of special cells that doesn't suffer that problem, problem solved!
 
A kind of jellyfish is immortal. It's kind of cool but then again it's wasted on jellyfish.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Watch out, some people say he's still alive
@Veritas lol
Btw., AFAICS nerve cells cannot reproduce at all
So the brain eventually vanishes completely
 
There are four gospels in that "single" old-ass book. Granted, three of them are basically plagiarising the same source, but the fourth is unlike those three. So there's at least two significant different tellings of the same story collected in that "single" old-ass book.
 
hi
I've been doing my game jam
 
10:16 AM
But of course, a die-hard "reasonable" atheist would ignore those. Would also ignore all the apocrypha books as well. Wouldn't be a 'single' book otherwise.
 
that meant sleeping for 2.5 hours and being interupted
 
@Veritas See wikipedia link above. A whole genus of organisms doesn't age.
 
user1804599
relevant:
 
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2
 
HAIL HYDRA
4
Waaaaaa
I had a hard time understanding SWEPT AABB
until I realized it's just distance/velocity.
 
10:24 AM
AxisAlignedBoundingBoxes?
 
user1804599
I had a hard time understanding GNAA
 
@rightfold kek
 
@rightfold what
is that abomination
welp time to play LoL
 
@CatPlusPlus what was that thing to make a proper full clone of svn?
 
@Borgleader looking good
 
10:46 AM
@Borgleader is the company from Czech Republic? All signs are in Czech
well not all, some labels are in English, but mostly it's Czech
 
people who use Atom editor... what plugin gives the functionality of Sublime where files I left opened are auto restored when I next start it, and even unsaved files are kept and restored?
 
> Eidos Montreal is a Canadian video game development studio owned by Square Enix Europe, a subsidiary of Square Enix.
 
@Columbo This has been disproven a few years ago. Neurons do regenerate, albeit very slowly and not enough to offset the death of others, but they do regenerate.
 
@AlexM. ah. Then I guess the game story takes place in Czech Republic
or in a future where Czech people have conquered the world
 
> Mankind Divided is set in 2029 in the Czech Republic capital Prague, two years after the events of Human Revolution.
 
Xeo
10:53 AM
@AndyProwl New Czech
 
@AlexM. 2029 seems a bit too early for things to look that way
should have been like 2129 or something
 
Futurology czeching in
 
religious debate?
@Columbo Happens only after a certain age.
 
@thecoshman Sublime
 

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