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2:13 AM
o/
 
2:26 AM
Hey Adam
 
2:51 AM
So this shows the nav drawer spanning the whole screen: google.com/design/spec/patterns/…
but the auto generated code for a navigation drawer activity just places it underneath the actionbar
 
code, baby?
 
Of course love <3
But seriously, I need help
 
I'm actually working on something cool right now, I hope I can get it working.
 
@codeMagic you're smart right?
 
3:11 AM
Bienvenidos a México
wanna see the view from my hotel?
 
Sure.
 
the photos are bad
it looks awesome irl
 
Damn, nice
 
Neat. What are you in Mexico for?
 
3:15 AM
for wikimania
the annual conference for wikimedia people
 
nice
 
puuh 14 hours of flying
my head is spinning
 
Ahmad, can I get your opinion on something really quick?
Are the icons over kill, or is it a nice touch?
You know, before I go adding the rest of them.
 
Jk I like it
 
See, this is why I asked for Ahmad's opinion.
But he didn't respond, so he's probably trying to figure out the most polite way to say "it looks like shit."
 
3:19 AM
Actually, you asked for my opinion first
 
3:30 AM
I think they look fine, but prizes and sponsors seem hard to find a good icon for
 
I thought so too. But I like these:
 
nice
 
I figured $ was the best idea for sponsor, and when I stumbled upon the star I thought that was good enough for prize.
Help was tricky too, but a little person with open arms portrays that pretty well, IMHO.
 
I like it tbh
 
I would've used a question mark prolly
 
3:35 AM
@TristanWiley Obviously
 
That's good
 
but I like the little stick guy
 
Hmm. I'll talk to the other event organizers and see what they think.
A question mark is a little more intuitive (not that you need intuitive when they all have text too, haha)
 
@codeMagic have a moment?
 
3:50 AM
I fucked this up lol
 
lolwat
use the library i sent you
 
Lol it's bed time
Never Adam.
 
use it tomorrow
 
I'm not using ANOTHER library
 
WHY
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE
STOP YELLING AT ME
 
3:56 AM
I'M NOT YELLING AT YOU, STOP TREATING ME LIKE I'M THE LESSER IN THIS RELATIONSHIP
 
Lol
Wtf did you do Tristan
 
Set the rotation of the entire thing lol, not just the FAB
 
LOL nice.
 
Shut up
 
Whoa
 
3:59 AM
<3
I'm going to bed. night all.
 
4:41 AM
@McAdam331 I'd go with the icons!
but increase the padding
(on the sides)
follow the 4x grid measurements
sorry, couldn't answer earlier, was out
I just ate a burrito. In mexico. So cool.
@jlindenbaum OMG
why have I not heard about this yet? :0
loool
I think this is the same "Moses" that has graffitis all over Hamburg
I've seen the word Moses sprayed a lot
mostly on bridges
 
5:19 AM
Yo People
user image
3
 
 
1 hour later…
6:48 AM
\o
 
in Java, 15 hours ago, by fge
Next hangout: July 17th, 13:00->14:00 (Europe/Paris) Java I/O basics: try-with-resources, AutoCloseable, Closeable; Java 6- users need not apply
For those who are interested!
 
7:13 AM
anyone here using fabric with linux?
 
Why?
 
I am just having some issues
so I wonder about if anyone have the same
 
o/
 
morning room
 
I only used crashlytics on Linux, that's the only thing.
 
7:22 AM
For those of you who has free time for the challenge ;) Complete the challenge and win the prize (for developers, dev-ops and designers)
 
@Warren Are you there ? I have got something to share . ^^ hehe
 
lawG, problem is that I have to use eclipse :(
 
Eclipse for Android?
 
stop using eclipse :(
 
I see. Sorry but I used AS.
 
7:34 AM
Ditto!
 
Yeh switch to AS before it is too late.
 
8:08 AM
well, it is not up to me, unfortunately.
 
8:32 AM
:-(
 
:'-(
 
Hello guys
 
\o
 
Oh, it took 10 seconds to know what was that @Blackbelt
 
you are young
it took two weeks to me
 
8:43 AM
Yes, I am
hahaha :D
 
Lord belt :-)
 
tln
 
I wonder if Warren reply today. I think I should share it now.
Volley+okhttp defeated retrofit.
Today I did a small experiment. I have got an API which has 5000 json string records.
 
Yay! I used Volley + okHttp
 
Volley+okhttp took 4178ms whereas retrofit took 5421ms.
:-)
 
8:54 AM
Hi o/
Not Bye !
:^)
 
Bonjour OcuS :-)
 
Namaste TLN
 
Nice findings @TheLittleNaruto
 
Thanks :-) I did that before too.
 
9:08 AM
@TheLittleNaruto now I am
 
But that time retrofit won.
Hey Warren :-)
 
hey
 
Did you read my experiment results ?
 
-2
Q: Cannot find symbol getActivity()?

DanteI am learning android from Udacity's course on developing Android apps. In that they show us how to develop weather app, but I am stuck in the code where we add the code for changing the temperature units. My question is why can't i use getActivity() method in following code: Its in the first ...

 
no, haven't read. I am looking :D
 
9:15 AM
I can't link that message post as I am online from mobile. I guess you should be able to see it on your chat screen.
 
did you use only retrofit or did you use okhttp with retrofit?
 
Only retrofit I guess
 
in my experience, retrofit beats volley by magnitudes when it comes to multiple simultaneous requests
you should do your test with okhttp together with retrofit
 
@Passiondroid Sorry access denied. The minimum reputation required for access is 100 points on StackOverflow. You have to work a bit more on your rep.
 
Alright let's do that too.
I'll be get back to you soon. :-)
 
9:18 AM
cool
 
That would be good to know. I usually use volley + okhttp...
Anyone tried Picasso ?
 
yeah but I will try Glide on next project
 
So many libs...
 
Glide has nearly the same api as picasso, so you can easily switch
same for EventBus and Otto
 
lol
 
9:27 AM
Ohh boy! That was close. 4502ms this time (retrofit+okhttp)
Still a win, I would say, even it is a very very less margin.
Volley+okhttp users, you're good to go. :-)
Warren, Glide is not good at scaling images.
 
how many iterations of your request did you do?
you should at least do it a couple of times
Glide has issues, so has Picasso :) but I think that glide still wins based on better suited features. But again: choosing the right library highly depends on the needs of the project
 
I don't know who iggy azalea is, but it seems I'm lucky I don't
 
Yeah! I repeated the same requests.
And retrofit did failed again
Volley still have range between 3900-4500ms whereas retrofit has 4500-9500ms
*with okhttp
 
9sec sounds like network or server related
 
That should be the same for volley ^^
 
9:39 AM
depends on your test setup
did you test x volley requests and then x times retrofit or do you mix them?
 
I have got two moto G 1st gen which are connected to same WiFi :-)
Both are connected to two different PCs and running retrofit and volley respectively
 
well, I could start to argue that one device is busy and the other not. you see, creating a reliable test environment is important and not easy to establish
 
So I run x volley requests on one device and x times retrofit requests on other device
 
TLN, check on one device
 
Okay Boss.
 
9:43 AM
:) I don't want to be your boss
 
ha
 
Ohh boy! Retrofit - 7316 , Volley - 5238
Vea, ^
 
one device, mix request (one volley, one retrofit), at least 10 times and then get the advantage of the duration
also make sure you measure the same points
 
TLN, can you create a topic in room-15 blog with "Retrofit vs Volley benchmark"? Would be nice.
 
9:54 AM
I don't have access. Also I need @eski for better English writing. :3
Okay, Warren
 
Is it normal that the atom feed of the blog is empty?
 
This address is not
But room-15.github.io/atom.xml is
and that is the link in the sources
 
in which sources?
 
This is making me crazy! Sometime Volley wins and sometimes retrofit.
 
10:02 AM
you should also check if both use the same json-parser
 
@WarrenFaith if you go at room-15.github.io/blog and look to the html sources, you will read <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="/atom.xml">
 
In my case, it is gson
 
And because /atom, it's a link to room-15.github.io/atom.xml and not room-15.github.io/blog/atom.xml
 
I see, @Ahmad fucked that up :D
 
10:03 AM
it's @Ahmad's fault.
 
Haha okay
So If we want to write an article, we clone the repo and do a pull request later ?
(It's not my case, but just wondering how you guys manage it)
 
Don't know. I guess the blog should have a "Contribute" section
 
partly, my article was just published directly (I have access) and proof reading was done a few minutes later by cM
 
10:29 AM
 
haha
 
11:13 AM
can someone please explain to me why a developer thinks that dots in string names is a good idea? (like this: <string name="setup.help.connectionError.NOT_REACHABLE.section01.title">)
 
it's like packages :)
 
I mean there is no obvious pattern... dots, camelCase, underscores...
and it is converted to R.string.setup_help_connectionError_NOT_REACHABLE_section01_title
 
if it's consistent on the project level - it's fine. but yes, it's not the best naming
 
so WHY IN GODS NAME?!
 
thanks to this guys, who write such code, we have the job :)
 
11:16 AM
it is only done by one dev...
 
I'm also trying to clean the new projects I join, but sometimes it's not worth it
 
I can't just clean up
we are a team of 3 devs on our side, 2 devs at the customer and at least 3 devs at another agancy
strict workflow rules with pull requests etc
there is no "I just clean this up and push it" way
 
but you have access to the all project files?
 
I have
 
mmm, if you have enough rights, then forcing others to use some common rules, at least in variables naming, might work
and reviewers will check this rules "manually" and reject PR if style is not ok.
 
custom pmd rules - as an option
so many ways. but only one way is right imho - people should understand why we need to keep projects clean
my colleague, for instance, doesn't write tests, he even doesn't want to try them. And it's with fact that everything configured at project and CI levels.
 
Sorry, but that is not how this works. The rules are defined by the customer, not by myself.
I am not in the position to dictate rules to a developer of the other agency
 
you might try to speak with all your colleagues and explain them profits of consistancy
 
"my colleagues" are doing the shit right
the other agency doesn't
 
yes, eventually all agencies work on the one project
 
11:29 AM
they do, so?
 
and all should care about the quality.
but we live in the not ideal world
 
and they don't
have you ever worked with a customer that has another agency hired?
 
yes, I did
and I left that company
:)
 
never mind, you don't get my case here
 
I don't know if you can switch to another project or so, but seems like you don't have another choice and working in existing conditions is all what you have
 
11:32 AM
I can't switch and I can't change the existing conditions, correct
 
then we can just feel sorrow for you. keep your pecker up!
 
HA
define: pecker ?
 
mmm, matty, it's like "stay positive and go strong"
 
ahh right.. English def: little penis
haha
Keep your pecker up has a different meaning to me ha
 
:D not that meaning
 
11:45 AM
Joke Time!
Sitting on the side of the highway waiting to catch speeding drivers, a State Police Officer sees a car puttering along at 22 MPH.
He thinks to himself, "This driver is just as dangerous as a speeder!" So he turns on his lights and pulls the driver over. Approaching the car, he notices that there are five old ladies, two in the front seat and three in the back, wide eyed and white as ghosts.
The driver, obviously confused, says to him, "Officer, I don't understand, I was doing exactly the speed limit! What seems to be the problem"
"Ma'am," the officer replies, "You weren't speeding, but you should know that driving slower than the speed limit can also be a danger to other drivers."
"Slower than the speed limit? No sir, I was doing the speed limit exactly twenty-two miles an hour!" the old woman says a bit proudly. The State Police officer, trying to contain a chuckle explains to her that "22" was the route number, not the speed limit.
A bit embarrassed, the woman grinned and thanked the officer for pointing out her error. "But before I let you go, Ma'am, I have to ask, is everyone in this car OK? These women seem awfully shaken and they haven't muttered a single peep this whole time," the officer asks. "Oh, they'll be all right in a minute officer. We just got off Route 142."
End Joke
 
sorry Tristan, but too obvious joke :)
 
12:00 PM
this one is much better :)
 
12:52 PM
Try like this maybe it works
 
1:09 PM
o/
 
o/
 
commandantMagic o7
(captain ?)
 
o\
 
cygery o/
 
at ease soldiers
 
1:11 PM
nana o\
 
OcuS o/
 
another light saber battle? o/
 
another ?
 
How is it easier to hold Shift and click on a tab in AS to close a window than to just click the "X"?
@sam_k denied for help vampirism
 
cM: Shift-Escape >_<
no mouse :)
(at least works like this in intellij
 
1:16 PM
Also middle click
 
That works for tool windows
 
cmd q
 
It was just a tip that came up and it seemed silly
 
Ctrl-Alt-Del
Alt - F4
 
anything to keep your hands off the mouse i suppose
 
1:17 PM
Reset button
 
walk away
 
pull the fuse?
 
@TristanWiley sorry, I didn't go back to my computer again last night. What's up?
 
Yes, power switch is the next step. Then appartment breakers.
 
@Ahmad Thanks for the suggestions. What are the 4x grid measurements?
And I'm gonna be so confused when Ahmad used to be hours ahead of me is now hours behind me in local time.
Does anyone have an idea for an icon to signify sponsors, but not a dollar sign? The more I think about it, it doesn't look good. I don't want to imply that the most important thing our sponsors bring is $$, because while that is true, they do more than that.
 
1:35 PM
 
Good idea. Another organizer also suggested a handshake. I could also use that icon of the person for sponsors and a question mark for help. Here is the screenshot for reference again if anyone cares haha.
 
Adam, what's the logo for (app/etc.)?
 
handshake is good
 
The app is for a hackathon at my university this fall.
See the screenshot, I thought it'd be nice to add icons to the navigation drawer items, just to jazz it up a bit.
 
yep, handshake sounds good
maybe also change the help icon, e.g, to an "i" in a circle
 
Do you think a wrapped present, treasure chest, or something similar would be better for prizes?
 
I'll have to go find my own then, because Google doesn't have anything like that in their material icon page (which is so convenient, tbh)
 
\oo
 
o/ Een
 
Yeah, probably. I haven't dug too much into finding my own icons, all of those are from Google's Material Icons because I wasn't sure yet if everyone would be on board with the idea so I didn't waste too much time haha.
o/ Een
In addition to that though I felt that bringing all icons from the same source would help with consistency and I wouldn't have to manipulate them all to be the same.
 
1:41 PM
 
Yeah, definitely. Thanks Cygery!
 
0/
 
This could maybe work for sponsors google.com/design/icons/#ic_loyalty
I still like the handshake idea, though
Yo berserk
 
How to center GridView elements vertically? I searched a lot and can't find a solution.Everyone is saying put it inside a Relative Layout and do centerInParent true, but it is not working (I even can't see how it will work)
heya cM
 
1:48 PM
Who cares ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
me cares
 
Ooh, I'll try loyalty too. Thanks, cM.
 
What is the height of your RL and GV?
 
1:49 PM
I tried giving both match_parent.
OMG!!!!
 
No problem. I like the handshake still but loyalty would help keep it them similar
 
That was dangerous.
 
Give GV wrap_content
It's not going to center anywhere if it's the same size as its parent
 
\o
 
o/ orb
 
1:50 PM
o/
 
But will it expand if I give it wrap_content? I mean it will just show one row, isn;t it?
 
whaaaaat?
that is a plane making an emergency landing in New Jersey
 
It worked :P
 
I hate when deserialisation in a library can't handle enums
 

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