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12:22 AM
@Maximilian good point.
I didn't consider the value as a life time reference. That makes it much more worth it.
@borrrden begone
@Owatch Here's $50
 
You got me.
You're good.
 
1:17 AM
😏
Woot! Lol
@borrrden come back! iOS is where it's at
 
Meh
 
📱📱📱📱📱📱📱⌚️⌚️⌚️⌚️⌚️⌚️⌚️
 
iOS is losing in most of the world
Ironically I live in the one country where it is still winning
 
Samsung sucks
What is the point of the edge? The commercial shown in theaters is really bad. Even if you like Samsung, I think most will agree it's bad
 
Max you're ugly
2
 
1:20 AM
It's like "hi, I'm Jeff. This is the Samsung edge price of shit. You can see notifications from the back (yet does not show this feature), gets text, reads "they're coming"" commercial ends. Whaaaatttt
the commercial is as confusing as I just explained it
@destinyfaith not as ugly as you though
 
@Maximilian Can't be any uglier than your personality babycakes
 
Your face causes my personality to suck, that's just how bad your face is
 
You should ask your mom how she's feeling. She probably is really thirsty right now, because how badly that made her wish she swallowed you.
 
😟
Destiny is not a nice person
Blocked
 
Max is a very not-nice person
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Uh, what the heck
Apple is saying i'm not in any development teams
 
1:27 AM
I texted them to ban you
 
I e-mailed them to revoke your scholarship and disable your watch
 
Hey Max, can you talk to your watch?
 
user457812
Bloodborne is a great game.
 
Some crummy indie title?
 
user457812
1:31 AM
It's basically Dark Souls 3.
 
user457812
Except blood, werewolves, and nightmares.
 
Doesn't sound appealing to me.
 
user457812
If you don't like Dark Souls, then probably not.
 
I haven't played it.
But I know about the games.
 
user457812
It plays a lot differently than Dark Souls, at least.
 
user457812
1:35 AM
Though most of the difference makes the game harder.
 
user457812
Since in Dark Souls, you can have a shield and block attacks. In Bloodborne, there is only one shield and it's made of wood.
 
user457812
So being defensive doesn't really work.
 
Hey Max
I'm flirting with you
2
OWatch wanted me to let you know
 
Isn't Dark Souls notorious for it's high difficulty levels?
 
user457812
Yeah.
 
user457812
1:38 AM
It's more like the learning curve is a wall and it gets easy after that.
 
I kind of felt up to the challenge.
But people described it as more rage inducing then fun.
 
Hey, @nil
How've you been?
 
user457812
Tired. Mostly working 14 hour days.
 
I'm more of a CS type player.
 
Aw, that really sucks
 
1:40 AM
Not so much puzzle/ect
 
user457812
I'm mostly puzzle, RPG, and whatever Dark Souls is. Action, I guess.
 
I should give that a try. I did like Skyrim a lot.
Also play Civ sometimes
But I find it hard to immerse myself.
I liked the adrenaline I got from CS though.
It was pretty draining. You have to really be on point when playing that. I would get exhausted.
I don't play much anymore.
 
The only thing @Owatch plays is with people's hearts
#player
 
I got a bit farther in Bloodborne nil :p
I beat another boss
 
I felt obliged to keep my reputation up, since I played with the same people. So it got stressful.
 
1:43 AM
But then I got pretty much one-shotted by some new baddie and woke up in a different place where there are tons of them and no save points.
(At least I haven't found any yet)
 
@DestinyFaith Few.
 
@Owatch Two
 
One.
 
And I paid.
 
1:44 AM
To get laid.
 
Eh, anyone played The Witcher 3>
No, I just paid.
 
I thought I could of stared mine. -tear-
So, I'm working on another app that I know I'll get 99% done, loose everything and have a mental break down but WHY NOT
 
Don't sully my exhibit on the starboard.
 
I played The Witcher 2 for about 10 minutes before thinking "wtf I don't understand this at all" and never playing again
 
Powered by Enrico.
And probably Mattsven or Max.
@borrrden I've never played any of them, I guess I'm just allured by the hype surrounding the recent release.
I hear it's like 60 hours of gameplay. Crazy.
 
1:46 AM
Not a bad thing really
The Elder Scrolls series is way more than that to complete everything
 
Not necessarily.
 
user457812
@borrrden Welcome to Hypogean Gaol
 
user457812
I just cleared the place out.
 
@nil he's the rules! he posted a linker thingggggg
Could be a virus
 
1:48 AM
Oh according to the wiki there is a lamp right up the stairs?! boo
I didn't notice it
 
user457812
So?
 
I finally got some of the items needed to upgrade my weapon to level 4+
 
I love my vape
ouo
 
user457812
I think I got my saw and the kirkhammer to +4
 
1:49 AM
Yeah my saw is level 3 right now
I have enough items to make it level 4 but I couldn't find a lamp
 
Where's my starboard bud Enrico?
 
I haven't talked to him in a long time
 
I have to say though, that third boss was an almost ridiculous piece of cake compared to the priest
 
Maybe that's because I actually sleep
XD
 
I was talking to him last night.
 
1:50 AM
But I died when it exploded on me after I killed it, that was annoying
 
Fuck too much vape at one time
 
He goes to bed in the afternoon, what a weirdo.
 
He also calls it 'night'.
Can you believe that folks?
 
Lol it's almost like the world doesn't have the same time everywhere!!!!
 
1:51 AM
nope
 
Oh Borrrden, don't tell me you buy into all that new-age nonsense.
Everyone knows the earth is flat.
 
XDD
Just like my heart rate when I see Chris Hemsworth 😍
 
user457812
Hm, not sure which boss explodes
 
You bottomline when seeing Chris Hemsworth? Better not see him then.
 
user457812
I've killed a few
 
1:53 AM
Same
 
It was the blood staved beast
I stood next to it when it died and I died...I had almost full health too
It wasn't really an explosion, just SOMETHING happened
 
user457812
Oh, yeah, killed that. He's optional.
 
user457812
She? Don't know.
 
#thathappend
 
user457812
It's kind of hard to tell when a giant werewolf thing is wearing the skin off its back as a hoodie
 
1:56 AM
 
Killing it opens the Healing Workshop
And lets you get a key that you otherwise need to buy for 10,000, apparently
 
I think I'm going to take up swimming this summer.
 
o
So guys, how do you present a UIViewController modally with the background being transparent/a uiblurred view?
Current context or over current context?
 
I like to use Google.com.
 
I tried ok
I've tried this for months
 
2:00 AM
Tried as a question?
 
Do you not remember that huge class I made to overwrite [UIViewController presentViewController:animated];
 
Half the people don't work with iOS anymore, and they knoew who they are -_-
 
._.
 
Potato
 
2:01 AM
Tomato.
 
What the heck
 
user457812
Just shot an enemy to death as they shot me to death.
 
user457812
I am good at this game.
 
Presenting view controllers on detached view controllers is discouraged <CameraViewController: 0x12c5126f0>.
What does that even
Okay, this is like seriously broken
Let's try the other way I guess
Oh
No that's why
.-.
That kinda creates a problem of how the heck do I even do this now
Oh wait
 
user457812
@borrrden Met Amelia yet?
 
2:09 AM
I don't think so
 
user457812
I think you might know if you did
 
Ok then no :p
I imagine I'll be meeting her soon then hehe
 
user457812
But Japanese, so who knows how it's written there
 
Do you know how I feel @destinyfaith? youtube.com/watch?v=2QtQGDqHj3o&spfreload=10
 
user457812
She's past the 10k echo badge
 
2:10 AM
Unfortunately, though, I leave for Cali tomorrow
 
@Maximilian I love you. XDD
 
So I won't be able to play for 2 weeks
 
I honestly cannot stop laughing form that
*from
 
user457812
I'm about the start the boss fight with Amelia.
 
user457812
And get my ass handed to me, 'cause she's apparently hard as hell.
 
2:10 AM
Aw man...
Go figure :p
 
I've been looking at waterproof earbuds, but they're pricey.
 
user457812
Yep, just got my ass handed to me.
 
user457812
Not as hard as I thought so far, since I got her down to 60% health before she just tore me a new one
 
I themed my App today.
I'm going for the blue/orange look with 5% grey text.
Rather than my blue.
 
Do you guys use pch files?
Okay, I got the thing working
Yay
 
2:16 AM
Not I.
 
I see
 
Has anyone been watching GoT?
I watched the first couple episodes of S5, but fell behind. Just wondering if anyone knows where they're at now?
 
Won't take you long to figure that out.
 
I don't watch Game of Throne
Sowwy
*Thrones
 
user457812
2:20 AM
Second try, beat Amelia
 
It's a decent show.
I liked True Detective too.
But less people seem to have watched that.
 
@Owatch is here
 
No he's not
 
You know it.
@Gudiya is here.
 
2:24 AM
Why have you been so absent Gudiya!?
 
Hey, I received my memory foam mattress today from Walmart. It says that it's firm which is why I bought it. But now I see it's not firm. It also says to not use it for 3 days.
I am hoping it becomes firm after 3 days
 
You don't want it soft?
Bad for your back?
Uncomfortable?
 
Yes my back hurts
 
Mine is firm too I think.
Probably better that way, I sleep face down, and If it was soft, my hands would probably be squashed into my sides.
Maybe I'm imagining way too soft.
 
Also why are people so stupid who put their reviews online? One set of people say it's firm, others say it's soft and this goes on.
 
2:27 AM
I'm amazed at how fast time passes when you're drunk
and how slow it passes when you're high
 
Some reviews are fake.
 
Some say - It's just right!
 
amazing, amzing, zinga
 
lol whats right?
 
whats not left
 
2:27 AM
ban don
 
Hey Don.
 
fuck you Maxi. Hi @Owatch
 
----------------------------------------- <- walk straight on the line please.
 
Ban @max
 
shittt, this is the OSX development room.
 
2:27 AM
I'm going to bed~ goodnight guys
 
@destinyfaith you love me
 
We're actually coldfusion.
 
@Maximilian Only when I'm drunk
;D
 
You were born with a disorder that makes you always drunk
 
That happened
Goodnight everyone, I hate you Max, love you @nil
 
2:28 AM
You love me as well
 
Did you know there is a new Terminator movie?
 
it looks bad
so bad
 
Genisys
Spelled wrong too.
It looks like when saving data, I'm just giving Core Data a location to save stuff?
I create a path to NSDocumentDirectory
Eh, it's all new to me. I think I got it for now hopefully.
 
user457812
Toodles.
 
Are you leaving Nil?
 
user457812
2:33 AM
No, responding to the above.
 
Something about files?
 
yeah, i realized it was not worthy of entering into chat.
 
@nil If a method returns an object which was locally declared as static, then is it required that the caller catch the return value in a static method?
 
it's only static within the enclosing block.
so no.
 
user457812
What?
 
2:43 AM
Yes, but what will you a developer who grabs the return value again in a static variable? Fool, Smart or Just Okay?
Wait, I will explain
 
ideone.com/xBNOl8 I tested it on VC++ 13 and got the same result
 
Now tell me - Is it required to do static NSBundle *someBundle = [NSBundle bundleWithPath:somePath]; ?
Or just NSBundle *someBundle = [NSBundle bundleWithPath:somePath];
What are we getting if we declare the variable as static ?
The method description says that iOS already maintains the existence of the bundle if it's already there. Then is there any need to declare the variable as static in which we are catching it?
One of my team member is declaring it as static and I said it's not needed
 
@Gudiya it's not required
if you declare something as static, that something is static within the enclosing scope
@Gudiya can you quote me on where it says that? it just returns it, but it certainly doesnt maintain it.
 
I have already highlighted the sentence in the screenshot I posted above
 
@Gudiya it only returns it. nowhere in that highlighted sentence does it say "it maintains it", that is, it "holds it somewhere"
 
2:58 AM
Based on my understanding, it does.
 
then why would it have to be re-declared as static?
 
This method allocates and initializes the returned object if there is no existing NSBundle associated with fullPath
If there is, it just returns it.
So now you tell me, who will be maintaining it if it is there?
@nil Any idea?
 
user457812
It does what it says on the tin.
 
But my colleague is right or me?
 
@Gudiya you're right. it doesn't have to be re-declared as static because the compiler acknowledges the existence of the (already declared outside of this block) object.
whether the object is static or not, it's irrelevant.
 
3:01 AM
Yes
 
user457812
I'm not even paying attention.
 
We don't know if they declare it as static or not
But which of the following is correct/better
static NSBundle *someBundle = [NSBundle bundleWithPath:somePath];
OR NSBundle *someBundle = [NSBundle bundleWithPath:somePath];
nil, please suggest
 
user457812
I don't know why you'd make that static.
 
I asked my colleague the same question. And his responses were very stupid.
 
What were his responses?
P.S. You declare a field static so the field is shared across all instances that use that field.
 
3:12 AM
His responses were - It's a standard practice.
LOL
 
wat
65wat.jpeg
That's someone that doesn't use his critical thinking. I'd advise you get away from this monstrosity ASAP before he infects you with his/her disease.
 
I bought 26 WATT CFL bulbs few days ago
Because my new apartment doesn't have lights in the rooms. I have to get floor lamps and the bulbs
 
talk about DIY
 
Whats DIY
 
do-it-yourself
 
3:15 AM
Please tell me the formal response that I should give him
 
chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/23468402#23468402 In this case, someBundle is already referring to an existing object outside of this scope. Thus it does not need to be declared static...What's the point of static pointers anyway?
 
Ok, I will put that in my reply.
Let me ask nil as well
@nil Can you help me in helping him understanding that it need not be static? What should I reply him with?
 
Hold on; my answer is not complete. Static pointers are used to access global resources. Now it is complete. Recall that this ptr someBundle is pointing to something larger than global.
 
I think I will put my reply and just disapprove the pull request
 
whats your reply?
@Owatch Although I passed this test as of now, I can't help but do it lightheartedly.
 
3:25 AM
The Apple Documentation for bundleWithPath: says that it maintains the existence of the bundle. Therefore - It's not required for the caller to catch the return value of that method in a static variable. Static variables exists for the life time of the app. But in this case, so does the bundle.
And then I will hit the disapprove button.
 
@Gudiya Static variables exist within the lifetime of the enclosing scope. ideone.com/xBNOl8
compare with ideone.com/LQ6EO3
 
I know that
Did I say something wrong?
 
"Static variables exists for the life time of the app"
is what you said
 
Yes, they do.
 
no they don't, only within the enclosing scope. an enclosing scope may not be as large as the app.
 
3:28 AM
It doesn't matter if you put them inside a method
They will exist for the lifetime of the app
 
maybe i'm wrong and c++ is entirely different from objective c, but i'd like to see an example.
 
No it's same. Tell me one thing.
In main method, If you call function g() 2 times, will the second call to g() again create/initialize the variable x ?
Try it and see
 
i did try it, and i didnt get any errors regarding re-declaration.
 
Call g() 2 times in main. And during the 2nd call, step in to g() method and see if the line static int x = 4; is executed
 
both in ideone and VC++
 
3:32 AM
It won't be executed because it's already existing.
Even though it's in local scope of the method
 
alright wait. i think i get you.
it's existing within the lifetime of the app, just not accessible from different scopes.
 
Yes. We put the declaration local to a function when we don't want them to be used from somewhere else OR if it's only being used from that method only.
 
@Gudiya someBundle will exist for as long as the scope exists if someBundle is nonstatic.
 
But it won't refrain it from being alive throughout the app
@DonLarynx Yes, if it is non static.
 
@Gudiya if what it is referring to has global scope, static is useless.
 
3:37 AM
You're getting confused.
 
@Gudiya how?
 
cause you re confused
 
Well, I hope I helped somewhat. the colleague is a nincompoop.
 
He is turd.
An unnecessary creature in this world.
 
however i was wrong about a variable being static within an enclosing scope. it's static for a lifetime of an app.
 
3:46 AM
Yes
 
well, it was nice to meet you and i am glad we had this discussion, i learned something. returns to drinking wine
Maxi <33333333333333
 
Max died
 
when
 
just now
I am Max's ghost
Boooooo
 
lol
 
4:11 AM
bye everyone. thanks.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:08 AM
am i doing something wrong in the first one? pastebin.com/WAQPj0c8
 
 
3 hours later…
9:36 AM
yes, you certainly are.
 
 
3 hours later…
12:50 PM
Hi, I have been stuck on an issue for days. UIImagePicker keeps screwing up view animations. Even if its called 5 minutes before. I also keeping a Snapshot error, for no real reason. I have tried everything i have found online and nothing seems to get rid of it. Can anybody help me?
 
 
3 hours later…
4:06 PM
How exactly are you supposed to filter stuff using Core Data?
I can create a fetch request, but must I make a new one each time I change the filter? Or can I change the filter and make the request again?
 
 
1 hour later…
5:13 PM
hello mike my friend
 
 
2 hours later…
6:47 PM
Morning everyone.
 
 
3 hours later…
9:20 PM
This 11 year old kid graduated from a local community college with 3 degrees
thats insane.. he said he graduated from high school at 10 and then just graduated college with 3 degrees in 1 year.. thats like, WTF.. I think there is a max on how many you can take :P (I'm in the same school district)
also, I wish I could have joined college that early:/ High school was waste
 
 
2 hours later…
user457812
10:52 PM
Well, I got to 50 insight in Bloodborne. That made kind of a noticeable difference.
 
11:47 PM
@nil How enraging is it to get halfway through a core data tutorial to find the code snippets are PICTURES, THAT WON'T SCROLL SIDESWAYS TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING ON. .
 

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