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12:18 AM
Crossposting from cstheory a lexing/parsing question... I really suck at these things, if you know about parsing please give a look! cstheory.stackexchange.com/q/4069/3036
 
 
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4:34 AM
@Tom it doesn't seem as bothering as I thought.
 
 
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6:38 AM
*OCD rage*
 
 
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8:18 AM
good morning everyone! :)
 
good morning
 
i have a smal question... why on some questions or answers is someone displayed es editor? i mean like a mod or so edited it...
 
they edited it, sometimes just to fix formatting or spelling errors, but sometimes also to rewrite the question to make it meaningful
 
8:34 AM
ok... because I had this sometimes on my posts... but couldn't see any chances...
 
part of the text shows a timestamp, like "12 hours ago", if you click on that, you get the history of the edits, which should show what was done
 
9:01 AM
ahh ok... i got it... thank you
yea i see... didn't know at the beginning that tags shouldn't be in the header...
 
 
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6:10 PM
@dra
 
Ju beckoned?
I figured surely you would get bored of that pedantism before then...
 
When it's only a few chars here and there...naw...:)
 
;)
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Q: Gmail CSS convention

nXqdI've just looked at Gmail source, and I'm surprised the way they name id / class name. This is just a curious what do them mean ?

Welcome to the third-place btw
if you play on MSO (linked accounts says no) then you should come over to the chat.meta.SO
 
I must say that chat feels in and of itself strange...
Even though I make use of it within the corp; when not directly work related it has a kind of telephone vibe about it...
 
Oh you should be where the chat rooms are hopping, it's way more IRC
Like for instance on chat.MSO/tavern during the 1-4pm EST
Anyways, just wanted to take the comment string off the page on that one post ;)
 
6:18 PM
No worries...default context as presentation versus the user prefs appears to be the tact you are taking...
Which is fair enough...however default context for a visually impaired user may be CTRL++ * 3
In addition I read Klaus comment as "see" not "read" since "reading" letters is fairly trivial
Piecing the minification together in the code base would of course be a different story...
/rant :D
 
well yeah, I agree with you there
So you don't ever visit MSO?
 
I haven't up to this point...
 
Interesting ... yet you're well past me on reps
Are you familiar with the goings on of meta?
 
No...I see it referenced here and there but never took a look...
 
Interesting ...
fancies himself a amateur psychologist ... ;)
 
6:24 PM
Hah...SO, Programmers, briefly looked at cooking....
Trying Quora out as well...
 
Oh I briefly look at a lot of them
I've been meaning to look into Quora, I just like this cult better so far ;)
 
Yeah I had a question about feels like temp versus actual temp and how it affects vegetation....Quora seemed like an appropriate place
yet no answers thus far...
 
So you mean windchill versus static air?
(assuming cold weather)
or even humidity versus dry air as well
and then there's being in the direct line of light rays versus being behind a barrier
that's an awfully complex question for a headline, got a link to the Quora version?
 
Right...there is a "feels like" temp the weather channel uses...
which takes in varying factors
 
But that can't be expected to apply to vegetation, not the one the weather channel uses
that's why they have barometric readings and the like ... for people who want to actually measure things
 
6:28 PM
being in Phoenix we have many frost sensitive plants...so if the actual temp is 35 but the "feels like" temp is 25
 
the "feels like" is great for soccer mom's
 
will my vegetation suffer any fate?
 
So the short answer is the "feels like" is not a good metric for you for your plants
 
Right...but can I safely not cover my plants if the real is 35 and the feels like is 20?
 
low humidity plus winds means plants evaporating moisture, making them more susceptible to edge freezing if the temp dips below 32
If the temp won't get below 32 then you can safely not cover them
 
6:30 PM
we dont have any moisture in Phoenix...
i teez...:)
 
Are they in a garden?
Or are they potted?
 
Both
the ground temp will be much warmer obviously
and the water being evapped out of the ground will provide minimal heat
 
So the garden ones I would just throw a blanket over them (assuming they are low to the ground) and line the edges with large rocks
the potted ones I would bring inside if possible, if you're that worried about them
Otherwise, a portable sort of greenhouse would do you well as well
Just depends on how many you have and lots of conditions
 
These temps in Phoenix are rare...
 
but so long as the actual thermo temp stays above 32 (or 33 if you like an extra tick of protection) then they won't freeze
Also bear in mind that 32 is the inflection point, water freezes much more slowly at 32 than at 20
so an hour of 32 is one thing, a whole night of 20 is another
 
6:32 PM
Right is it a hard freeze or not...
 
exactly
 
I was interested in some weather guru saying something like....a queen palm at a "feels like" of 23 with an actual temp of 32 could sustain for up to 8 hours....
something like that....
 
Hello
 
But I have nothing yet...
Howdy
 
@Aaron and I doubt you'll get anything like that, but I would shorely love to be corrected.
 
6:34 PM
Wow .. this is like the Meta Tavern .. but with @Aaron
 
I'm sure that the math DOES exist, but I just don't see it happening, not on Quora at least, without some sort of critical mass (remembered the words)
@Chacha102 lol
I tried asking him if he ever comes to meta, tried encouraging him to come on over, but he's not an MSOer ;)
 
He just won't drink the Koolaid..
 
So anyways ... yeah, that's an interesting question.
Queen Palms .. how big do those grow?
 
Height?
 
but of course
 
6:37 PM
I believe they reach 23 - 30' feet at full maturity
 
oh good lord. How large are they now?
 
Maybe 15 - 17 or so...
 
I should think that shy of a major frost they'll be fine at this point
they're nearly fully fledged trees
(excepting palms not being trees)
 
Height: 25 to 50 feet
Spread: 15 to 25 fee
The problems with the queen palms is losing the frond
 
wow, that's a big shrub
 
6:39 PM
shurb...low blow...
:D
shrub
 
lol, well it's not a tree! :p
So in the absence of a hard freeze, I think you'll be fine. If you expect a hard freeze then use a cloth (not plastic) of some sort to protect them.
But lord that's a big tree
18' tall, with fronds
 
lol...yeah we use sheets...stores were out of burlap
Yeah bougainvillea suffer the same fate
but those grow like a weed
so natures pruning is fine
 
well just so long as you don't lose the main fronds
 
Yep...ok popping out of here...have a good one...happy new years...
 
cheers to you
 
6:45 PM
Just reversed the order of posts somehow...
 
Tom
7:12 PM
Do moderators have the ability to undo "close votes"? My question appears to have received 3 of them for no apparent reason. In fact this is one of my best prepared questions:
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Q: How to develop an english .com domain value rating algorithm?

TomI've been thinking about an algorithm that should rougly be able to guess the value of an english .com domain in most cases. For this to work I want to perform tests that consider the strengths and weaknesses of an english .com domain. A simple point based system is what I had in mind, where ea...

 
7:22 PM
@Tom Please don't ask multiple questions, make each question stand on it's own.
 
Tom
@LanceRoberts they are not individual questions, they are simply what needs to be answered to answer the main question.
 
@Tom I see no main question in your question, that's why all the closers chose "Not a real question". It looks like you're having your own little discussion, and asking questions about your discussion. Please ask individual questions on each technical point (and only on the technical programming points).
 
Tom
@LanceRoberts did you not read the title? I see no reason to repeat the title. It looks like all those people simply didn't read the post.
 
@Tom SO works by asking discrete technical programming questions. That's it, period. "How to develop an english .com domain value rating algorithm?" is the antithesis of discrete. Don't ask about development, ask about the technical issues you're having with your implementation (one per question).
 
Tom
7:34 PM
@LanceRoberts how discussing the problems of an algorithm in a computer science related subject is not technical is beyond me.

But fine, I will ask those 8 questions one by one and see how many people can keep context. Thanks.
 
@Tom You've asked 7 questions in one post. That's already going to make it hard to answer. Additionally, you've got some subjective questions in there. All ranking is subjective. It's the very definition of ranking. This site isn't really geared for subjective questions.
 
@Tom All I can really say is please read the FAQ, your question is probably more applicable on Programmers.SE
 
@GeorgeStocker was referred to chat.MSO so some boys in blue will investigate.
@Tom So link them all back to this question for context.
Nothing wrong with that
 
Tom
@drachenstern did you read those "questions"? Really if I did not name them question x I'm sure you wouldn't have said this. They are merely followups needed to answer my question
 
@Tom I did read those questions. I also noticed that you have questions about "is this logic flawed" next to "are there online resources that already to do this". I also see that you have questions about formal versus nonformal preformed lists and that you have a lot of detail in one post. It's rather tricky to answer them ALL and be coherent as the OP wasn't really coherent.
There's way too much information in that question to make it "easy to answer"
@Tom additionally, in the interest of full disclosure, I am one of the "close voters" on account of I thought it was too complex as asked.
I've had questions closed, and I've posted long questions, and I've posted nearly repetitive questions, so don't think I haven't been where you are
And this is so not a "CS theory question"
this is a "I want to start a business model around a topic and need help firming up the business model's underlying basis" and you can coat that however you want, but that's what it is. And most people don't really like doing work for a commercial entity for free when they don't benefit back from it
Additionally --> Domains like "freemoneyz.com" etc. are generally not valueable due to the spelling mistakes. <-- is missing something. Like the words "to me"
@Tom Now. You wanted feedback. You're getting feedback. Is this what you wanted to have answers to, or did we piss you off because we gave you a hard time about your question and now you want to say "but you're not being fair, that's not what I mean"
 
Tom
7:44 PM
@drachenstern Certainly not what I wanted to hear if that's what you mean. Anyway, I'll agree with you it's not an easy to answer question (which are imo the most important questions) and delete it.
 
don't delete it
it's got your whole summation in one post
use it as a single correlating thread for the others
 
Hi all
 
@Moshe hi
 
Is this room nearly as active as the one over at meta?
 
@Moshe: Yes - can't you see all the very, very recently-starred posts on the right?
 
7:53 PM
@Shog9 - no, I'm just never here.
Heh.
@Shog9 - Looks like you'll need to change your answer, I've edited my question.
 
What answer?
And also, screw you for invalidating my answer.
 
@Shog9 that one
:P
Ah, ok
 
;-)
 
you could have used my userscript to replace the "active" with "vibrant" and left your answer as is.
 
Meh. It's only good if other people can see it.
(which i guess means I should have posted it in another chat room)
 
7:56 PM
:D
 
@GeorgeStocker CLOSED FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
 
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Q: One Box Github in chat?

MosheCan we get One Boxing to occur for github links in chat? GitHub is about code and so is SO. I can see the Repo link, name and description being useful in chat. Thoughts?

 
boo
 
what're you booing over here?
 
what could you summarize in a box that wouldn't already be reflected in the link?
 
8:01 PM
> I am just learning JS so I would prefer to stay low. Frameworks will come later, but if you have interesting experience I'd be glad to hear it. – daniel.sedlacek
 
@Shog9 - Info about the repo, for example. An avater, perhaps, or a git link.
It would make it more prominent
 
@Shog9 Thanks.
 
um...
 
I don't know that he did anything worth thanking ... :p
 
REDACTION SCRIPT!!!!
https://github.com/MosheBerman/RedactionScript
Git is a distributed revision control system with an emphasis on speed. Git was initially designed and developed by Linus Torvalds for Linux kernel development. Every Git working directory is a full-fledged repository with complete history and full revision tracking capabilities, not dependent on network access or a central server. Git's current software maintenance is overseen by Junio Hamano. Git is free software distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 2. Name Linus Torvalds has quipped about the name "", which is British English slang for a stupid or u...
github Github GITHUB!!!
 
8:04 PM
Moshe you are way too proud of that script and wanting everyone else to use it ... its cute and all, but it's a userscript for a reason ...
 
That's certainly more prominent, but doesn't add anything to what was already in the URL itself
 
@drachenstern - True, but I plan on adding more to it. Funnier still, @YiJiang really wrote it. :-D heh.
 
what's up in here
 
8:20 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb We're creating a voting ring. It'll be unique in that we only down-vote, and only each others' posts. You in?
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why doesn't it say redacted :(
@Shog9 hmmm im unsure...
 
come on, think about it: how often haven't you posted a perfectly good answer to some obscure question, only to face the indifference that such answers bring, and thought to yourself, "If only some kind group of vigilantes would down-vote the hell out of this, I would make bank on sympathy votes!"
 
8:36 PM
lol
 
9:19 PM
@JohannesSchaublitb did you install the userscript and reload?
 
9:37 PM
@drachenstern ohh i didn't install any scriot
script
 
that would be why
 
i thought it's installed on the channel server
 
Nope, it's a userscript so ...
I'm guessing next that "userscript" is an unfamiliar term?
 

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