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12:02 AM
ever use zipalign?
 
12:12 AM
My interpretation of Game of Thrones theme on violin..
 
sounds great man
 
12:30 AM
@JMRboosties, yup
 
@PaulinaD im kinda confused as to what im doing here
 
I never know what I am doing here
 
lol
keystores, ever used them @Pyrodante
 
I do not believe so
seems like something I need though :D
 
in order to get it on the market
it needs a keystore or something im in over my head at this point
 
12:54 AM
oh!
you have to sign it
yes
but eclipse makes that very easy
Have a good night
 
 
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user457812
4:04 AM
Booyah, new eyebomb
 
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5:26 AM
I've finished watching all of the Skins series.
So depressed it's over.
This device reminds me strongly of some device ...
 
user457812
5:53 AM
Boy, that looks like an iPhone.
 
user457812
Like.. not even trying to hide it.
 
user457812
How much does one of those Samsung Ripoff Player 4.0s cost? Ok, $230. I'd buy one if I didn't think it would fuel further ripoffs.
 
user457812
In other news, the Xoom 2 apparently sucks.
 
@nil you change your icon. I like the older one which is nicer.
:)
 
user457812
I prefer the new one. Fits my art style better.
 
user457812
6:00 AM
I would really love to just unload on the iPhone/iPad room for violating ever standard and ideal I have, but that would really just be me acting like an asshole.
 
user457812
Also, the new avatar lets me post hipster pictures like this:
 
user457812
 
6:22 AM
 
Pretty sure that was Samsung trolling Apple.
 
Jokes on Samsung, they replicated the ugliest iPhone to date
The only iPhone that has an attractive design is the 4/4S
the older designs were shit from the very beginning imo, I have no idea what Ive or Jobs saw in them
Perhaps they were comparing them to Nokia bricks
 
user457812
They probably hadn't thought of the whole aluminum case thing they're addicted to by that point
 
user457812
After the unibody Macs, they just went hog wild with it
 
Yeah
The problem with the 4/4S is that it's so delicate
 
user457812
6:27 AM
Delicate?
 
I'd be too scared to hold it :P
 
user457812
My dad dropped his in the snow and ran it over with a bobcat and it's just fine. O_o
 
If you drop it, chances are the glass will shatter.
Well, snow is more forgiving than concrete :P
 
user457812
He ran it over with a bobcat.
 
are they two separate incidents?
 
user457812
6:28 AM
 
user457812
No, both happened in sequence
 
user457812
He dropped it in the snow, didn't notice, and ran it over with one of those.
 
The snow could have buffered the impact.
 
user457812
Completely unharmed despite finding it under the tire.
 
exactly
 
6:29 AM
Anyway, I was talking about dropping it on a hard surface :P
 
user457812
Still, people who drop their phones are imbeciles.
 
user457812
I seriously don't know how they do it. I've never dropped my phones, aside from dropping one on my bed when I walk into my room.
 
You've never accidentally dropped yours? It's not exactly something you plan to do :P
 
user457812
Never.
 
user457812
That said, I'm not the sort of person who walks around all day staring at their phone.
 
6:30 AM
I'll jinx you, so you can experience it
 
user457812
My generation creeps me out the way they walk up and down sidewalks, stairs, halls, etc. just staring at their phone
 
On the rare occasion I drop mine, it's because it snags as I pull it out of my pocket
 
user457812
Snags on what? O_o
 
just frictional force usually
 
user457812
Are you wearing a body-sized rubber? Wait, don't answer that, you're from Aus, it's totally possible.
 
6:32 AM
wait ... you guys never had a phone fight... it's just like a pillow fight but with phones.
 
user457812
@Reno Only with phones from the '80s.
 
I have a 2 year old brother, who uses mine as a weapon
 
user457812
If my niece or nephew even touched my phone, I would murder them.
 
My niece uses it as a candy bar sometimes.
 
user457812
Nobody touches my devices unless they want to have their limbs removed.
 
6:33 AM
I would too if I had an ICS phone :P
 
user457812
I won't even let them touch my old Samsung flip phone, since it's still my favorite phone.
 
user457812
Oh yeah, @Reno, I was going to ask then forgot, would you like to rule/own the Mac room with an iron fist?
 
user457812
That way I can shove the responsibility onto someone else ensure someone other than me is watching it.
 
Sure, but I can't review iPhone users well
In Android I just look at the code they write in the questions and judge them based on that
 
user457812
I'd just look for obvious stuff - bad English, unformatted code blocks, little explanation/description of the problem, or "code plz"
 
6:37 AM
I know very little Obj-C
oh ok then
 
user457812
Granted poor English shouldn't be the only reason - that sometimes can't be helped.
 
user457812
I'll probably just randomly add people to the room owner's list if they seem like sane people.
 
user457812
Except @Glitch. Glitch isn't sane, he's Australian.
 
abizern seems good
 
user457812
Yeah, I'll have to ask him about that next time he drops by.
 
6:39 AM
Australians are the most wealthy per capita, and the most educated, so screw you. :P
 
user457812
Moshe as well, though I doubt he finds room ownership as funny as I do.
 
user457812
@Glitch That may be true, but you can't change the fact that you's Australian.
 
user457812
Just like I can't change the fact that I'm retarded American.
 
That's ok, I'll live longer with my healthcare :P
 
@Glitch they'll be closing codesearch.google.com in January :(
 
6:45 AM
Yeah, that sucks
Google is becoming more mature, which means focusing on profits rather than innovation
 
Yeah ... they recommended code.google.com which is shit.
It never fucking loads.
 
yeah it doesn't actually work
I think Google is trolling
 
> (If ChromiumOS or Android are important to you, reach
> out to whatever contacts you have at Google *now* and let them know!)
 
I test it, it can work in here.
 
They'll be voting for SOPA tomorrow.
If it passes, we should exclude Americans from the internet. :P
Anyway their entertainment was mostly crap.
 
6:57 AM
If SOPA passes, we should start a website to boycott media sales for a month
and then we'll see who cracks first
 
user457812
7:09 AM
I would not blame the world if it removed America from the internet
 
user457812
Also, I need to start playing with NaCl
 
7:26 AM
@Reno Is it possible to subscribe other than google mail id here.
 
hi
 
Hello
 
In general direct your question to the chatroom
always.
no exception .
 
8:05 AM
yawns
 
user457812
8:31 AM
Cut that out, it's contagious.
 
:This is not intended to be exhaustive. This is a list of current, widely held, false ideas and beliefs about notable topics which have been reported by reliable sources from around the world. Each has been discussed in published literature, as has its topic area (such as glass, and the misconception that glass is viscous) and the facts concerning it. History Ancient to early modern history * In ancient Rome, the architectural feature called a vomitorium was the entranceway through which crowds entered and exited a stadium, not a special room used for purging food during meals. Altho...
I was not surprised by any of these. I'm an internet pro.
 
user457812
O_o
 
user457812
It is sad that there's an entire section there devoted to evolution.
 
.-.
 
(>-_-)>
 
user457812
8:39 AM
stone.com/neue ← I personally find this very cool, especially when compared to the godawful new Twitter client on iOS. I demand someone port it to Android so there's something comparable.
 
Oh a new nil.
Looks like a golden bomb.
 
user457812
It is zee eyebomb (with a touch of eldritch)
 
Morning
 
user457812
Yo
 
8:55 AM
nods
@thecoshman You should join now!
 
9:06 AM
Wait, what?
Right, you all awake then?
I've been tasked with something and I'm not sure how to achieve it
... wait, yes I do.
Nevermind.
Or do I?
 
Your task, if you choose to accept it, is to make sense.
 
I'm supposed to be making a Panel like piece of functionality. A menu which scrolls open to reveal more menu options.
But I realised I'm doing that somewhere else so must already have the code to get it done.
 
like the old app drawers?
 
yup
 
9:26 AM
Fork the app drawer from Donut.
Customize it for your needs and then trollface around.
 
They should include the trollface in Unicode.
 
Absolutely!
Uh? Did I miss something?
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A: Null pointer exception onClick

Paresh MayaniBecause you have made spinner visibility as gone then how can it is able to show your spinner. so call sortSpin.SetVisibility(View.VISIBLE);

I mean my comment.
 
No you're right, setting it to "gone" doesn't remove the reference
 
@Reno Next time you see a logcat block which needs formatting. Wrap it in a code block rather than a block comment.
It is easier to read the log if it isn't line wrapped.
That is the only case when I prefer a horizontal scroll in code blocks.
To prevent funny code coloring you can use <!-- language: lang-none --> above the code block.
 
Hmm, I too agree.
 
9:40 AM
Oh I did not know how to get about that funny coloring thingy . Thanks
 
>_< it so happens that the whole block is one giant line.
 
Yup.
I'm on it.
Fixed.
 
I am thinking that the user didn't got the error declaring String str=new String[2];
 
You know what? I actually think that Paresh Mayani could be right.
I can see a lot of measure stuff in there. Which is layout rendering related.
Oh lol.
 
9:49 AM
or not
 
Why not.
 
yeah Reno could be upto the mark :D
 
Hi everyone, i need to do some talk regarding threads... anybody have experience in that???
 
Oh wait.
Integer array and string array.
@Farhan Just ask away.
You'll soon find out if we are capable enough to help you. :D
Judging by how miserably we all fail right now on that question above we might not be as capable as initially thought. :D
 
Can i put an early bet on "no"
Please, I'm awesome at threads.
They call me Graeme Threads McAwesome.
 
9:54 AM
:) actually m not clear about the question right now... so i was hoping somebody can share his knowledge.. scene is: i want some 3 persons to work something and when any of them completes his job he should tell the supervisor.. supervisor will see when all of them have raise there hands then he would do something... now how this gets done.??
 
Wait a minute!
String str = new String[2];
str[0] = "Ascending";
str[1] = "Descending";
This can't work.
 
Executors I think ..
 
I wonder how that even compiled ...
 
10 mins ago, by Lalit Poptani
I am thinking that the user didn't got the error declaring String str=new String[2];
 
have each of them call `finished()` with:

static int finishCount = 0;
public void finished() {
count++;
if(count == 3) // Do something
}
 
9:57 AM
lol... I think i m finding the question.. first would be how would a thread tells other thread that it has finished the work?
 
@LalitPoptani Oh by ... totally missed that line.
 
@Graeme u talking to me?
 
@Farhan Yup :)
 
oh sorry.... finished is the function of class? the main class in which all threads are created???
 
@OctavianDamiean Just copied his code and works fine here.
 
10:00 AM
How can that compile?
 
Well I changed the String[] for sure.
also I removed the part android:prompt from xml, other than that worked.
 
I bet the answer is "clean your project"
 
lol
I think your answer will surely come into play. :D
 
10:16 AM
What a question.
 
which one?
 
Farhan: Classes and Threads are independent concepts.
 
no no.. i know they are diff... i was asking the scope of finished()??? as i m creating the threads in some function like oncreate of the class....
 
You can have each Thread do something different, call finalise() (wether its a method of on object or a static function) and you can then either start a thread in the if statement above, or use a handler to call code on the UI thread.
Well yes, each thread needs to have visibility of finished... but conceptually it doesn't matter how you acheive that.
 
thanks @Kartik for taking my comment :p
 
10:25 AM
@Glitch : where !
ahh now i see
 
lol
 
@LalitPoptani The one with the Spinner.
 
Now i am seeing 1 Close vote for that question
 
I have edited it now.
 
yeah but I tried it works fine except the String[] problem.
 
10:26 AM
@Kartik Yup, it was a mistake.
 
This is awkward ... we are actually talking about Android today.
 
@Reno Shhhhhh, you'll curse it
 
ha..ha..ha Reno...
 
@Glitch kartik posted your answer in comment :P
 
Oh god Reno is right.
How did that happen?
 
10:28 AM
@MayuMayo you have write access yo.
 
18 mins ago, by Glitch
I bet the answer is "clean your project"
 
I meant us talking about Android instead of trollfaces and stuff like that things that matter.
 
@LalitPoptani : your answer is correct i think..
Ohho.. @Glitch was much faster than me.. He must post an answer there if its correct
 
@Kartik it seems, rest everything works fine.
 
I don't really believe that a clean will help but I can't tell for sure by how fubard Android actually is.
 
10:31 AM
I can almost guarantee it. Nullpointer + views = clean. Almost always.
 
But the problem is only String[] I think and that can be resolved by clean and build.
 
@Glitch Not necessarily. Sometimes it can be a period instead of a colon in your layout file. :D
 
haha, I just copied the complete code of the user though.
 
Like this, android.layout_height="match_parent".
Yea but we don't know if there isn't more.
 
D'awww... On my question for "How to insulate Java code from Native Crashes" someone gave me an answer telling me how to call java from native code :) How sweet
 
10:33 AM
I am finding how this market.android.com/details?id=kr.sira.measure is made.. But could not get how they actually doing
 
I can't believe I didn't upvote that question already.
 
@Kartik Where is the problem? GPS compass and it will works in general
 
@Kartik lots of math
 
@Kartik Add to my message @Glitch 's one ;)
 
The same i was doing by taking static images, rather than doing from camera directly. But didnt work. So left that idea long before. But now time has to solve this problem :)..
@CSchulz @Glitch
 
10:36 AM
Just in case someone missed to upvote this awesome question, go ahead and do it!
8
Q: Catching exceptions thrown from native code running on Android

GraemeThe project I'm currently working on requires me to code up the android portion of a cross platform program implementation. A core set of functionality is built and included in my app through android-ndk. I've found that any exception/crash which happens in the native code is only reported now a...

 
sure.
@Graeme you still got 5 days. :)
 
@OctavianDamiean is this possible? stackoverflow.com/questions/8486542/…
 
D'aww, thanks @OctavianDamiean
I'm sure it's a problem an awful lot of people have.
 
@Gabrielle Why not?
 
Should be possible
 
10:41 AM
@Graeme This is why I think it is a great question. Plus you've offered a 100 rep bounty on it so you need some support. ;)
 
@OctavianDamiean how?
@Glitch
 
@Gabrielle Sounds like a good question. Might be a dupe but I can't tell.
No need to ping everyone!
1
Q: Taking first and last frame of a video as an image on Android

GabrielleI want to take the first and last frame of a video as an images. Is there any way to do this?

 
@OctavianDamiean When I offered 50 I didn't even get a sniff from anyone :) On the bright side, made 50 rep in upvotes since putting a bounty on it, so it's all good.
 
Now people will take a look and answer if they know how.
 
10:42 AM
@Kartik seems interesting ... I think it can be done by some Image processing magic.
 
@Reno It is not very probable though. it costs alot hehe
 
So basically what Glitch said, tons of maths.
 
@Reno : yaa. I got one image processing library called jjil.. But it didn help me..
 
@OctavianDamiean Not only maths you need image processing to get the start and the end of the object and such stuff
 
@CSchulz ummm it looks like the user should specifythe bounds of the object
I dont think image processing is involved
 
10:46 AM
i'm off, cyas
 
@Glitch cya
 
@OctavianDamiean : I have commented in your question stackoverflow.com/questions/4078479/… about broken link.
 
I hate that question. Just because I know that I'll have to start clean it up one day.
@CSchulz [getFrameAtTime](developer.android.com/reference/android/media/…, int)) :o
 
@OctavianDamiean ah ... I haven't checked the date
 
>:( I thought markdown was fixed
 
10:50 AM
@Reno Reported it already. ;)
 
So the question has low quality because no research effort is done
 
@Sherif Sorry I couldn't get the context you're referring to
 
I don't know what is the connection between onNewIntent and ListActivity.
 
@Reno was talking about imageprocessing
 
10:53 AM
@CSchulz Well yes and no. It may serve the community if it isn't a dupe.
 
oh by costs you meant in Android CPU operations.
 
yeah least to say
 
@LalitPoptani How do you mean the connection?
 
I gots another bronze badge! Hurray!
 
@OctavianDamiean means how is onIntent used to update the ListView as said by the user.
 
10:59 AM
Well onNewIntent() is called every time the Activity receives a new Intent.
Take that intent, extract the data you need and update your ListView.
 
So can it be used to update the List?
 
Well I assume yes, depends on your implementation.
A possible use case would be a Service that sends results to your Activity.
 
hmm ok Thanks for the info. I unable to understand that question.
 
@OctavianDamiean Lint is a bit buggy... Have two elements in a Frame it's telling me the FrameView is useless. How insulting! Poor FrameView :/
 
11:09 AM
My expectations where pretty high for Lint. I was disappointed.
@LalitPoptani I've answered that question now.
However the question itself sounds like a homework assignment.
 
yeah I am having a look at it.
 
He is not going to be that happy with the answer but it is a pointer.
Oh, 430 rep to go an I have reached my goal. :)
 
your goal only 10k, I expect much from you. Please extend your goal.
 
@OctavianDamiean I am very restrictive :)
 
@LalitPoptani Well with 10k I'm pretty much complete.
 
11:16 AM
Might be because you are not dealing much with Android these days, but deserve much more.
 
Well I'm really complete at 20k but 10k is not bad either.
I'm talking about the moderator tools. This is all I want to unlock for now.
 
Aha thats great.
 
I don't really care for reputation. It wouldn't influence my way of using the site in any way with or without it. ;)
 
I love getting rep :D
It makes being a programmer worth it
 
@Reno What is the flag queue at right now?
 
11:19 AM
Otherwise it's just like, work and stuff
 
1
Q: How to use a drawable with a gradient in a ListView's pressed state?

Sander van't VeerI'm currently using a drawable for all of my buttons, which gets a gradient over it when you press the button. I achieve this effect by using the various pressed-states and a layer-list. Now I'm trying to create the same effect with a ListView. I'm able to show a different picture as the backgr...

Awesome!
 
Great looking app - makes mine look like a pile of crap
 
Oh yea.
2
Q: Asus EEE Transformer never gets a GPS fix unless I reboot it

Jorge CastroI have an Asus EEE Transformer (not the prime) that has unreliable GPS performance. I usually just fire up Google Maps in my car and use the navigation but the tablet always gets stuck with "Searching for GPS". This can go on for over 30 minutes in which the tablet either won't get a signal at al...

A friend of mine needs some help from Asus Eeepad users.
I wasn't able to try it out yet.
 
Just sold the one we used at work (since it was my collegues)
My fav tablet though.
 
@OctavianDamiean there are 134 flags in the queue atm.
 
11:28 AM
You see, more than enough to do. :D
Damn time zones.
Missed this message.
yesterday, by Feeds
posted on December 12, 2011 by Tim Bray

[This post is by Luca Zanolin, an Android engineer who works on voice typing. — Tim Bray] A new feature available in Android 4.0 is voice typing: the difference for users is that the recognition results appear in the text box while they are still speaking. If you are an IME developer, you can easily integrate with voice typing. To simplify the integration, if you download

 
Removed due to inactivity, just in case you wonder why.
 
I was not happy with Voice typing (in Iris)
 
Mornin
 
11:40 AM
If anybody here working with Eclipse, can tell me, why Externalize Strings is using message.properties file instead of /res/values/strings.xml
is it some kind of performance reason?
 
@OctavianDamiean I was already typing :P
 
@MarekSebera No. It is because Eclipse is actually a Java IDE not an Android IDE specifically.
 
@OctavianDamiean oh, I thought this feature was brought by Android Eclipse Plugin actually
So that's it, thanks
 
11:55 AM
@Reno The solution is to replace white spaces in URLs with the white space URL entity. %20.
So, instead of this URL:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html#finishActivity‌​FromChild(android.app.Activity, int)
you'd use write it like this:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html#finishActivity‌​FromChild(android.app.Activity,%20int)
Note the %20.
 
Good day everyone!
 
Hello.
@Eugene before you ask what I see in your avatar I'll tell you. I can see a gun.
I'm pretty sure that I need help.
 
:)
I see Fox for some reason
 
Nice, say can you make a user script for folding the huge access list?
 
It looks like it might not be that easy.
I have asked the guy who made the dancing unicorns on a star user script.
However we definitely need something for that.
 
12:02 PM
@OctavianDamiean Actually was inspired to use such avatar by the Rorschach mask "The Watchmen".
 
@Eugene Oh I know that mask and I want it.
 
I don't think gifs are supported.
 
No I want it in reality.
 
I didn't understand why everyone told me, that HTC Sence is BAD. After I week of using it I want to cry. :(
 
@Eugene Well if you want to cry it means that it is bad.
 
12:03 PM
@OctavianDamiean I suggest, that you better not try to take it of the Rorschach. We all remember how it ended according to movie.
@OctavianDamiean Yep. Something like that. I can't believe, that week has passed and I'm still only at the beginning of the Developers Guide. :(
 
@Reno It it gets too extreme, that is if it isn't possible to write a user script for that and the SE team doesn't do anything about it I'll probably have to host a chat somewhere else.
I'll host a Victory Chat 2 instance on my vServer.
It'll also be A LOT easier to write a bot for that chat system.
 
I'm also looking into the bot option.
 
You know the point is, if I can't manage the access list anymore then I just can't use the chat system.
 
We can just @ping the bot and tell it allow/deny access to a user. Or tell it to print the access list ... something of that sort.
 
Well if it is possible to do that then I'm fine with it but as far as I have heard it might not be that easy to get this done.
 
12:11 PM
I can confirm it... Chrome and Safari get nervous when I open that list.
I'm using Firefox at the moment, it seems fine.
Sadly ours is the only room dealing with these problems.
 
I know.
However I blame the design.
 
If we open up the room, and put people on the read list if they're being rebels .. will that work?
I mean we have sorted out the bad guys .. mostly
 
If you open up the room it'll ignore the read access list.
That is what I meant with bad design.
 
that seems counter-intuitive
 
If it would not ignore it then I'd definitely go with what you said.
It would've been like that for ages in fact.
That is what I meant with the default-allow vs. default-block implementation. It would be default-allow with user defined exceptions not the other way around.
 
12:21 PM
@OctavianDamiean can u take a look at this stackoverflow.com/questions/8486542/… ?
 
Should we bookmark this convo and suggest it on meta chat ?
 
@Reno I have already asked a question there right now.
 
@Reno you're right...thanks :)
 
12:44 PM
@Reno Doesn't look like it is going to happen apparently.
 
It would have been so easy if I had a reference implementation for a chat bot.
 
Well we have. Give me a sec.
@Reno Flackbot on LaunchPad.
 
:o I thought George said this was closed sourced
 
It is not the same version.
I can ask him how to get Flackbot to join our channel.
 

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