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8:18 AM
Good morning
 
Sam
Morning
 
8:32 AM
I'm still off sick :-(
 
Morning
@Sam I just got off that ceremony, woot, it was sooo boring
will talk more when I'm at home
 
Sam
:D
Kk.
 
Now I have constant sneezing to go with unstoppable coughing and searing headaches. yay for me.
 
Sam
Apparently, increasing your water intake can help.
 
So, how are you feeling? Hopefullly less crap...
 
Sam
8:35 AM
Meh, just the usual.
 
I have been drinking so much orange I swear I'm turning yellow...
*squash
 
Sam
lol
Lemons are also supposed to be good for you.
 
Great. Wait a second while I suck a lemon.
 
Sam
:P
Eh, I keep breaking VS, it keeps starting-up in readonly mode.
 
 
1 hour later…
9:50 AM
Lifehacks is out already! Yay!
 
Sam
:D
 
Huh?
 
0.0
 
You want an invitation?
 
9:53 AM
Yesplease
 
> invite sent
 
 
3 hours later…
12:31 PM
Lol why not
 
Sam
facepalm
 
Also my email isn't working so don't expect me to see any emails
Just saying
 
2 messages moved from ASP.NET
 
Go away
 
12:38 PM
14 messages moved to Trash can
 
Hey, I objected that change, so I'm not restricted to that rule. :P
 
trollololol
4
 
room topic changed to Teenage Programmers Chatroom: A chatroom for everybody! No age restriction, but try to be mature. General programming and life discussion. | Website: teenage.ga | Have fun! [null]
 
Sam
@Unihedro Meh
 
@Sam :-P
 
12:40 PM
room topic changed to Teenage Programmers Chatroom: A chatroom for everybody! No age required. General programming and life discussion. [null]
Jan 21 at 3:30, by Alex Gittemeier
room topic changed to Teenage Programmers Chatroom: A chatroom for everybody! No age required. General programming and life discussion. [null]
^ original revision is my favourite
 
@Unihedro But it's grammatically incorrect!
 
@its_notjack No, yours is.
 
No age required.
 
Sam
@its_notjack ...
 
WHAT?
1 message moved to Trash can
couugh
 
Yes?
The chat faq.
 
Sam
I should write another bot. cough
 
You violate chat rules again, and I'm casting a mod flag.
@Sam :P
 
@Unihedro Hmm? Which ones?
room topic changed to Teenage Programmers Chatroom: A chatroom for everybody! General programming and life discussion. ( teenage.ga ) [html5] [null] [programming-languages] [web]
There, best of both worlds
And some decent tags too
@Unihedro WHICH RULE?
 
Sam
@its_notjack WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?
 
12:47 PM
@Sam BECAUSE HE IS IGNORING ME!
 
Sam
@its_notjack MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING ANNOYING?
 
> If your chat messages are repeatedly being flagged by your peers you might find yourself muted, banned, or – in extreme cases – your Stack Overflow reputation may be negatively affected.
@Sam remember Zigi?
 
samfromstackoverflow.tk now points to @Unihedro 's page...
 
Bad timing to start another discussion, angie is texting meh :P
zigi from javascript @Sam
 
Sam
Oh, yeah.
I remember.
 
12:50 PM
Well following unfortunate events the mods finally held stance.
Dun dun dun...
 
Sam
:O
What happened?
 
I don't remember, but the spectator lobby rules.
You can see everything from there. :P
 
Sam
Yes, that guy.
 
yep, that's the chat user getting into trouble for being rude
@Sam Hey, gender neutrality.
 
Sam
12:52 PM
And for other things cough
 
Let's not talk about the other things cough
 
Sam
@Unihedro I personally consider "guy" = male.
@Unihedro Roger cough
 
sneezes
Cold.
 
coughing fit followed by three sneezes
Weird illness.
 
Sam
That time of the year again. shrugs
 
12:54 PM
Laut der Rechtschreibreform: bisschen* ;) bißchen ist die alte Rechtschreibung.
Sie haben noch keine Freunde.
(Nur ein kleiner Scherz)
 
stop flagging please
 
Who's flagging?
 
oh hi
 
FFS!
 
1 min ago, by its_notjack
Sie haben noch keine Freunde.
(Nur ein kleiner Scherz)
 
12:57 PM
What's being flagged? (non-10k here)
 
got flagged and the sentence above
 
Sam
You do not have any friends.
(Only joking)
 
(ps: I can't see who flagged it)
 
@HamZa Oh, non-english.
 
yes but not flag-worthy
 
12:58 PM
@Sam Google Translate? Or German speaker?
 
Sam
@its_notjack Yep, GT.
 
@its_notjack note that if a mod got involved s?he could freeze this room as a whole if deemed off-topic
 
töte mich jetzt töte mich jetzt töte mich jetzt töte mich jetzt töte mich jetzt
Hier, das Wetter ist gut.
 
s,c(?=ould),w
 
@HamZa General programming and life discussion. Off-topic for the room, or off-topic for the site.
 
Sam
1:00 PM
thinks jack is a nutter
Kill me now Kill me now Kill me now Kill me now Kill me now
Here, the weather is good.
 
@Sam Danke viel
 
@its_notjack just saying. If the mod thinks that the room is mostly off-topic s?he might freeze it
 
s,might,would
2 mins ago, by HamZa
@its_notjack note that if a mod got involved s?he could freeze this room as a whole if deemed off-topic
HamZa is saying that it will be frozen if you're making the room off-topic for the site.
 
ME?
 
He's talking to you (with the exception that you're not listening), so yes.
 
1:03 PM
@its_notjack it seems you're trolling or maybe you really do not understand. I'm off to something productive.
 
@HamZa Enjoy your day and thanks for your time trying to educate him.
 
@Unihedro cyaa, got a lot of homework/projects to do :)
 
The PHP god finishes homework and projects :P
 
I rarely even use php lately. I'm into C and Android.
Well I wrote a php api yesterday which was fun :)
 
Don't worry, you can master all those technologies. :P
 
1:08 PM
hehe "master" is a small word with an heavy meaning
 
Of course. :P
 
1:23 PM
 
@its_notjack at least you had a fun time.
in JavaScript , 13 mins ago, by Unihedro
Hey guys (or ladies and gentleman, depending on your mood), sorry for jack moving messages into this room earlier.
@Sam btw, (room misuse alert) I verified that one can only get the websockets to a chat room instance when logged in.
Therefore my previous plan of using observer websockets and POSTing irrelevantly won't work out
 
Gravity is fun
 
1:41 PM
 
Sam
2:14 PM
@Unihedro Ah, TBH I'm not that surprised.
 
You know what that means?
 
Sam
Polling?
 
Wait for it...
Data TRANSFER spaghetti
 
Sam
KVKJHvkgfJHGFJHGfjhgfvjutr7urvHVHJGFCYtrcjghCFJHGFCjytrci6urcjkhGFCHJGFCJHGFCUYT‌​ryx!!!!!!!!!!!
 
for JCE users who think using parallel streams are a good idea; conventional way is still awesome and fastpath and all
But still, for the sake of good Libraries & API design I'm going to implement parallel streams, albeit silly and ridiculously overexpensive
 
Sam
2:17 PM
"parallel [insert anything here]" is overrated.
 
asynchronous IO and asynchronous serialization are literally the two worst elements of any programming languages that any programming language designer would cry when working on those.
Hehe.
 
Sam
I totally agree.
Speaking of which, I've now got to remove Pham's multithreaded internals 'cuz of weird behaviour.
I'll show you...
if (message != null)
{
    // Do stuff.
}
 
:o
 
Sam
^ that simple snippet of code will fail.
 
Race conditions?
 
Sam
2:22 PM
Probably.
I've got like 20-30 threads calling that method.
 
Over here at Java threading is somewhat safer, as each thread gets its own method stack.
Hmm...
 
Sam
Hmm...
 
What does readonly mean?
 
Sam
In C#?
 
readon-ly, or read-only?
Yep.
 
Sam
2:29 PM
Simply that the field cannot be written to.
But it can be from the class's constructor.
 
Cool, thanks!
 
Sam
It's like const, but it doesn't have to be a compile-time constant.
Np.
 
Oh.
 
Sam
Out of curiosity, where'd you see that modifier in use?
 
in the list of reserved keywords
 
Sam
2:36 PM
Oh right, of course.
 
3:07 PM
Nord reporting, @Sam you there?
 
Sam
:D
Just a sec...
Hmm...
 
Assuming :D is joyeous response: smiley with big grin | Use :d instead
 
Sam
Assumption correct.
 
Woot! Well done!
 
Sam
?
^ was that a bot response?
 
3:13 PM
Nope.
 
Sam
Shhhhhh!
 
1
 
Sam
2
Hmm. Can Nor also join the (so) tavern?
 
Sam
3:16 PM
Ok, so that worked.
 
Aww, you kicked him :(
 
Sam
Yeah, sorry about that.
 
@Sam Tried to programmatically send "3" from Nor thru the console over here by POST request and replacing the fkey with his, doesn't work.
 
Sam
I had to check if SE made the kick-mute command properly ;)
 
grumbles
 
Sam
3:17 PM
@Unihedro Lemme check CE.Net's codez...
 
Gotcha, JCE isn't ready for QA yet :)
So I can help you as much as possible while I'm at it.
 
Sam
:D
FYI, I was trying to kick Nor from the tavern.
 
Oh?
 
Sam
But it didn't work.
Only got a 404.
 
Heh, you're not RO here :P
 
Sam
3:20 PM
I know, but I am in the Tavern.
So I was wondering if it would still work.
 
I wonder if you can kick someone from a room you're RO while you're POSTing in a room you're not RO
 
Sam
I doubt that will make any difference.
 
Lol.
 
Sam
Anyway, for the chat message posting codez...
 
Mhm
 
Sam
3:23 PM
$.post('http://chat.stackoverflow.com/chats/{room ID}/messages/new', 'text={message text}&fkey=' + fkey().fkey)
 
Correct, well done!
 
Sam
Btw, I've been meaning to ask you, does JCE work on SE chat?
 
{message text}
:D
 
Yes, practically all of these domains listed in README.md of the public repo.
 
Sam
Yeah, just about to ask.
 
3:26 PM
Its a shame I cant do this from cUrl
 
Create a connection to the server through a method invocation;
Send messages to the server and have automatic event querying from the server, handled by JChatExchange;
 
Sam
@Unihedro Great!
That's more than CE.Net ;)
 
Work with the above features across multiple rooms across the different Stack Exchange chat domains:
http://chat.stackexchange.com/
http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/
 
Couldn't I just use the fkey from fkey().fkey?
 
Sam
@its_notjack Nope.
 
3:28 PM
There's only three points on there, but actually we planned for more, such as indirect invocators, ability to build custom ServiceProvider s for the JCE client to use so you can use the JCE client to do your custom ServiceProvider stuff and use the HTTP support that comes with the library, etc
Hence if we build a chat client out of JCE, it will be extremely hackable :)
And just so you know, it's officially to be named Senior
And Junior will also run on JCE as its core once JCE gets a stable build
Finally throwing away the spaghetti :P
 
Sam
@Unihedro Cool!
 
@Sam It's cooler than you believe... *
 
unihedron.tk looks a bit wierd. Not sure about your new colour/color scheme...
 
* I hope
 
Sam
can't wait to see a demo
 
3:31 PM
Me neither ;)
I want it done so badly....
RAWR
I want it done so badly that I don't even have time to put Junior on the cloud :o
 
Sam
lol
On github?
 
VPC
It runs on Linux though, so can't host Pham until it's cross-platform compatible sorry :(
But when it's cross-platform compatible it can live with Zephyr :D It'll be happier over with it anyway
 
Sam
Ah, np.
 
doesn't think C# bots and Java bots will go together well
 
@Unihedro amazon?
 
Sam
3:33 PM
agrees
 
@its_notjack c9, SSH-ready
 
Sam
I've still got to add SE chat support to CE.Net o_o
 
@Unihedron What's up with your website, by the way?
 
What is?
 
Well, look at it.
 
3:34 PM
Ugh, I remember now. I was debugging the themes.
Debugging at production at the finest...
in Shadow's Den on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 1 min ago, by SPArchaeologist
for @Unihedro joy
 
Sam
@Uni I've got a few mins, up for some chess?
 
Sure thing :)
 
Sam
Shall I create the game?
 
I'm online, so you can select a game mode of desire and challenge me directly.
 
Sam
kk
Challenge sent.
 
3:41 PM
Cool, they added notes!
 
Sam
:D
 
Sam
lol
 
Link to spectate game?
 
3:57 PM
Close one... I almost won xD
GG
 
Sam
GG
Yeah, ikr?
 
ggwp
 
Sam
TBH, I thought I was going to lose that one ;)
Three-check? ;)
 
Yeah, me too.
Sure :D
 
Sam
:D
 
4:09 PM
Hey @Sam, thanks for the games, I gotta sleep early since I have another function tomorrow, see you tomorrow!
 
Sam
4:26 PM
K, cya tomorrow!
 
 
1 hour later…
5:38 PM
Alright... So I'm messing with CSS transforms
transform: matrix(0, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0)rotate(90deg)matrix(1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0)
I made it flip!
 
doesn't understand css transforms
 
Me neither
That's why I'm messing with them
transition: all 2s ease 0.2s; for best CSS learning tool
Alternatively, transition: all 2s linear 0.2s;
I FOUND A BUG IN CHROME!!!
Oh, wait, this is Canary
Still, same thing
 
Wot?
 
6:41 PM
...
 
7:10 PM
Hola!
 
Sam
Hiya
 
I am changing my studios name to Debonair Studios
 
Sam
Cool; where'd you get the name from?
 
Haha, my mom :)
 
Sam
Ah :)
 
7:12 PM
What have you been working on?
I have been playing with blender :)
@Sam have you ever worked with blender?
 
Sam
Well, atm I'm working on ChatExchange.Net.
@ImagineWebDesign Erm, nope. But I think I've heard of it before.
 
It is 3D modeling and animation software
 
Sam
Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of.
 
That video was made by a couple guys
 
Sam
Pretty impressive.
 
7:16 PM
Yep, its just really complex
 
Sam
I can imagine. ;)
 
@its_notjack ???
 
Sam
@its_notjack .Net as in the framework developed by microsoft :P
 
@Sam I know, but .net wouldn't fit in
 
Sam
7:22 PM
How about chatexchange.chatexchange?
 
Good luck with getting that TLD
 
8:03 PM
 
8:42 PM
 
0.0
Noice!
 
9:05 PM
 
Sam
9:15 PM
@ImagineWebDesign That looks better imho.
 
10:00 PM
Anyone On?
 
hi
 
@bjb568 hey cool kitty cat!
 
Yes… I'm cool. In fact, I'm frozen.
 
Being frozen is fun...
 
10:15 PM
Meh
 
debonair?
 
@Ahmad my new studios name
Hehe, maybe i should change my icon to something else, people cannot stand my self portrait...
Jacob ^^
Wow, someone starred my self portrait!
The sad part is, it resembles me so close, its scary...
 
11:03 PM
user image
2
@LittleGirl That is a portrait of you ^^
@Ahmad That is a portrait of you ^^
@Sam That is a portrait of you ^^
@Unihedro That is a portrait of you ^^
@its_notjack That is a portrait of you ^^
@bjb568 That is a portrait of you ^^
Have I missed anyone? we cannot have anyone feeling left out!
 
11:48 PM
A portrait is someone's drawing of thselves, the fact that it was you who drew them already contradicts with that :P
 

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