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1:00 PM
I think it's odd that the star/favorite info gets sent to all the users, though
 
m59
It has to update on our pages.
That's like saying you think it's odd when I type and you see my text, lol
 
It is odd that info on who did the star gets sent out.
 
Well, that's done through websocket, the stars are XHRs
 
@m59, yeah, but it gets sent to the server. Why would the server notify us who favorited anything
 
@m59 Not really, Kippie has a point here : stars look anonymous in the gui
 
1:01 PM
@Zirak Aha like that
 
m59
Ohhh, that. I see what you mean.
 
And it wouldn't be a problem if they accepted our previous suggestion, that people without write access can't star shit. Then we could've put the theory to the test.
 
m59
They probably just sent nearly the entire (or all?) of the original message that came in.
 
@m59 why would the browser send the username of the user doing the action ?
 
m59
You don't imagine they want that for database purposes?
I'm fairly daft. I'm probably not seeing your point.
 
1:05 PM
I do hope the socket is authenticated and there's a session server side
 
m59
Oh, right.
 
Yeah, it'd suck if you could just send messages in other people's names
.. Or would it?
 
pls no D:
 
@NickDugger host objects work they way they want anyway
 
okay, I've got some mods from unix & linux to get a mod from SO to check it out
 
1:07 PM
Nice
 
if a browser decides that Element.prototype.michaelJackson() is a function that opens a porn page, then so be it
 
O_o
 
Also, why does SomeKittens want amazon wishlists?
 
Early secret santa?
 
Some fat dude fell of his roof last winter, since then he's been gaining weight and last week he was told that he got a new job..... He's Santa Now.
 
1:10 PM
@Kippie they want to stalk you
 
So, somekittens is taking over rlemon's job this year?
 
@rlemon Did he sign the Santa Clause?
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hur hur hur
did the star spam stop finally?
 
You did reference that, right?
Looks like it
But, you shouldn't say that :P You'll provoke it
 
It has stopped before
 
1:11 PM
great. now I just look like a liar.
 
Maybe his finger is tired
 
What's more annoying, the stars appearing next to messages, or the stars list updating?
 
If he actually manually clicked all those stars, I actually respect him somewhat
 
@Zirak the list
 
5 day weekend coming up woot :P
 
1:12 PM
@Zirak Definitely the list
 
@Loktar Die.
 
@Loktar Wow, I totally don't envy you or anything
 
Oke doke. I'll do a bit of spam to see if it works and then share
 
@Loktar Just, go celebrate somewhere else, you are making me feel things I don't want to feel
 
Yep, looks like it works
jQuery.prototype._load = jQuery.prototype.load;
jQuery.prototype.load = function (url) {
    if (!url.indexOf('/chats/stars')) {
        console.log('spam averted');
        return;
    }
    return this._load.apply(this, arguments);
}
^ stops the stars list from updating.
 
1:14 PM
Hahaha
 
@Zirak But we do want it to update. Just not every .5 seconds
 
I would not necessarily want it to stop updating, at all, just not every half second
 
Until the spammer's out
FIIINNNEEE
 
Get back to work!
 
Hahaha
 
1:14 PM
imgur.com/fIRDM9t how do i look :v
 
He's back, oh noes! D:
 
m59
@Zirak any idea how I'm failing with the dev tools? My websockets filter shows nothing
 
@shortCircuit Lovely :P
 
@m59 Refresh the page
 
m59
ah hah
 
1:16 PM
@m59 Talking about the stars? Because they show up as XHR for me
 
m59
well eff. I'm trying to figure out why Zirak can see that json and I can't :)
 
last seen on his profile keeps updating. I wonder why
 
@rlemon Does it? It says 10 mins for me
 
So what's the plan to make third party JavaScript less of a security problem on websites?
 
1:19 PM
every 1m it goes back to start
 
Is there a tech that helps with that?
 
@rlemon heartbeat, most likely
 
@rlemon Starring something counts as activity.
 
"last seen" doesn't require any activity
 
m59
@Zirak nothing showing under websockets except when I initially load the page. Everything else is under XHR /chat/stars and that doesn't have the json you referred to. I'm so confused.
 
1:21 PM
There you go moochers:
var lastStarsLoad = null;

jQuery.prototype._load = jQuery.prototype.load;
jQuery.prototype.load = function (url) {
    if (url.indexOf('/chats/stars')) {
        return this._load.apply(this, arguments);
    }

    var now = Date.now(),
        delta = now - lastStarsLoad;
    if (delta < 60000) {
        console.log('spam averted; %s ms', delta);
        return;
    }

    console.log('stars ok; %s ms', delta);
    lastStarsLoad = now;
    return this._load.apply(this, arguments);
}
 
Hahaha
 
@m59 The socket view doesn't auto-update, hit the Frames tab again.
 
can you improve your script so that it pings a mod ?
 
On every star? :P
 
m59
Ohhhhhhhh, got it!
 
1:22 PM
yeah, it should make mods come more often
 
m59
Now I understand.
I'm a websocket newb.
 
@dystroy Based on what trigger?
 
@Zirak reading my mind would be ok
 
Sure, give me 6-8 weeks.
 
no worry
 
1:23 PM
Hahaha
 
@Zirak sure, you got 3 days
.... that looks like a discussion with my PM
 
I'll go to the php room, see if Gordon is there.
And he's not
 
I've already pinged mods
in Unix and Linux on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 15 mins ago, by Caleb
@rlemon I've dropped this in the MOD room, hopfully some SO folks or employees will take care of it from there.
 
@FlorianMargaine I want it testable in 2 days oh and also make it load my music playlists and my twitter, but I don't want to have to log in to twitter or connect anything, just let it show my twitter frontpage, updating like twitter does it
 
Can't any of you owners just kick the guy out, though?
 
1:26 PM
No. Putting someone off write access doesn't disable starring.
 
nope
 
We've complained about it before.
 
Ah, and there's no such thing as explicit removal of read access either?
 
There's no banning, hence the muting system we have with the bot.
Well, there is banning, but only mods can do that.
 
gotcha
 
1:28 PM
Can whoever is running the bot that's randomly staring and un-staring items in here shut it down permanently. This is your only and last warning.
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@Kippie Well, no, because read access is global
 
@ChrisF wait what? There is a bot who does that?
 
@FlorianMargaine (and everyone) -- I am new to prototype; if I wanted to do [element].prototype.click, would I do Object.prototype.click? Node.prototype.click? Or should I just cut off my hands?
 
@ChrisF he hasn't replied to us yet
 
Who was dumb enough to do that?
 
1:29 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum apparently so.
 
Why are the timestamps changing?
 
^^^
 
paging @abdellahmansur You are needed in here
 
hey guy and gals
guys*
 
1:30 PM
@JustGoscha Hello
 
Aw man, for a minute there I thought I was the only guy in here
 
@rlemon Do you know who it is?
 
@Kippie you are. I'm a man!
 
Can users with less than 20 rep star things?
 
1:30 PM
@ChrisF we have suspects. see the image I posted
it appears to be @abdellahmansur
and his 'last seen' update appears to show he is doing something as well
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum He has 84 rep
 
@rlemon last seen doesn't mean anything
 
@Kippie at the moment
 
Muting someone doesn't change their starring ability, does it?
 
@rlemon My last seen also updated while I was checking it, so that does not say much
 
1:31 PM
Look at Loktar's last seen
 
nope
 
I remember talking to @abdellahmansur though and we had a nice conversation
 
ahh. well nevermind that then
 
@KendallFrey but the constant flow of json messages on the socket means something
 
is anyone in here an experienced selenium-webdriver user? ...and can point point me at a good documentation for the javascript version? ..
 
1:32 PM
@dystroy that does
 
@ChrisF How'd this bot come to your attention?
(I just joined, and have no idea what's going on)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I went trough his questions, they don't look like the ones of a retarded 12 yo troll
 
@SomeGuy Someone raised it in another room.
 
What evidence is there that it's a bot?
 
Seems like a script
But it doesn't have to be
 
1:33 PM
@dystroy yeah, I remember talking to him, he even lives nearby, I think he maybe left it on by mistake or something.
 
Regardless, how do we find the offending user?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum possible
 
It seems to star random messages in the last 20 messages and then remove the star
Though I don't see it active right now
that being said, the starred messages list shows a couple of random messages starred
 
Wait @ChrisF can you just kick him? He can still rejoin later if you do that - right?
 
@SomeGuy We know who it is. The json that gets sent on the event of starring/unstarring contains his username
 
1:36 PM
@ThiefMaster are you here?
 
There it is again, lol
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum already pinged him.
 
He can do it all day long if he wants to
 
#starred-posts, .flash .stars {
  display: none !important;
}
 
@Gordon, I summon thee
 
1:36 PM
do we need 5 mods to handle one user?
 
We need 6.
 
@OliverSalzburg That does not really fix the problem at hand here. It still updates the starred messages list and is just annoying in general
 
Would someone make a meta post? If we limit starring and unstarring to like 20 things a day per room it's more than enough
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum There is a star limit
 
@Magikaas Yeah, but you won't see it :P
 
1:37 PM
Just not when you unstar it
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Yes I can kick him from chat for a while, but I'd rather he stopped of his own accord.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum a swift kick in the ass would work better ;)
 
@Kippie So...who is it?
 
@ChrisF I must imagine they are AFK or just don't care
 
@SomeGuy @abdellahmansur
 
1:38 PM
they've been asked to stop multiple times
 
@rlemon Well there is that.
 
@ChrisF if he doesn't rejoin and start doing it again - it's a strong indication that it's a bot and possibly a mistake. He can still rejoin later so no harm done.
 
@Kippie Are we sure?
 
(Unless, the bot is coded to rejoin, in which case, :/)
 
Yes.
 
1:38 PM
Oh, Chris is here
 
Ooh, had no idea they had that in there
 
@ChrisF already took care of it?
 
@rlemon I'm not sure event_type 6 is starring. Neil did it a couple of times too.
 
@Gordon Not yet. Posted a warning & still trying to get the 2 minutes it would need to kick him from chat.
 
1:40 PM
maybe the guy is just using ajax polling and this is what triggers this event
 
@FlorianMargaine It is. I looked at what refreshes the star list, event_type === 6 is among the factors
 
Neil starred and unstarred once
 
Hmm
I'm not seeing events on my websocket...
 
1:42 PM
my bad then
 
@Gordon You can take over if you want.
 
!!code or look at a film or study
 
@towc look at a film
 
film suggestion?
 
@SecondRikudo If you can't find websocket, refresh page. Then, click on the Frames tab every so often.
 
1:43 PM
@ChrisF do we know which user it is? If so, just ban him?
 
@towc Good Morning Vietnam!
 
@Kippie Seems like someone is trying to downvote him out of his chat privs ;D
 
@Zirak I found it, but I don't see any events on it
Even when people post, or star, I'm not seeing it
 
> Click on the Frames tab every so often.
It doesn't change automagically.
 
@rlemon is it funny?
 
1:43 PM
yes
has serious moments.
 
@Zirak Still none.
 
but the overtone of the movie is funny
 
ok, thx!
 
@Gordon Yeah. Apparently it's @abdellahmansur but I'm supposed to be getting some work stuff done so I haven't had chance to go to his profile and do the necessary ;)
 
@SecondRikudo By any chance, are the only things there an Opcode 8? Connection closed?
 
1:44 PM
@Zirak Yup
 
Yeah, because the socket's open in another room so it uses that socket.
 
Typical Abdellah
 
Okay, closed all other rooms
Let's try now
(Now that I may have gotten it working, no one talks, stars, or does anything chat related)
 
Butts.
 
1:47 PM
@SecondRikudo there, you can check.
 
@Gordon, @ChrisF Thanks for the attention
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@rlemon did the troll show up?
 
Someone star something for a moment
 
xD
 
Thanks @FlorianMargaine
Also looks like @abdellahmansur is back
 
1:49 PM
@Loktar typical racist
:P
 
woah
 
@ChrisF could you please suspend?
 
Whoa there
 
I didn't say he was racist
 
(or @Gordon)
 
1:49 PM
@abdellahmansur You've been accused of running a bot that is randomly staring and un-staring posts in here. If it is you can you stop it now.
@SecondRikudo I'm not sure that will stop the bot, but I will do if he doesn't respond.
 
@ChrisF You can star during suspension?
Suspend me for a second
 
s/second/year
 
Hahaha
 
lets make it more than second ;)
 
=P
No, you can't star while suspended.
 
1:52 PM
He thought star-bot would bring joy
all its brought is pain and destruction
 
XD
Can I listen with a plugin/script to the same websocket chat listens?
 
If everyone gets a star, noone wants a star, even then, everyone is a star <3
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do i want a tag or an omega?
 
Its Jo3m!
I knew he would come to save us from the stars.
 
@rlemon are you 100% it's the person you say it is?
 
1:55 PM
nope. you have all the evidence I have ( I would expect you would have more, but alas the tools in place need improvement )
 
@ChrisF we can always just make an experiment
 
@Zirak has investigated the ws responses, @ChrisF you might want to ask him for more definitive information
 
hah, poor Adbulla.. probably some new guy
> man this is a cool chat
> oh I'm banned... ok :(
 
@rlemon Mods have very few chat tools. I think the only people with more would be employees.
 
@ChrisF Yes, I can prove to you that it is him
Come with me to the sandbox?
 
1:57 PM
sounds dirty (pun intended)
 
@ChrisF I'm positive.
Unless the chat lies
 

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