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12:06 AM
srsly, not a helpdesk.
 
thanks, I was losing my patience
 
SOrry... I thought rules here, were lower than on questions :/
 
boredom.
procrastination
etc
 
@user2284570 Quite the opposite.
 
4 extra bytes is probably management info?
 
12:51 AM
Howdy.
 
hey
 
@StackedCrooked just alignment to 64 bit, no?
 
Ah. That would make sense.
 
I find the auto keyword pretty scary. Makes me feel old.
 
12:57 AM
auto makes you feel old?
to each his own, I guess
 
I wonder if and when compilers will start aligning malloc and new to 16 bytes (or higher) for SIMD.
 
new should.
 
64-bytes and cache aligned
 
Half the questions in are about misalignment from new.
 
12:58 AM
iirc that's a problem with MSVC isn't it?
 
exactly this kind of thing. All my study on types and alignment and so on. BOOM
 
MSVC's problem is something else.
 
The funny part is, compilers are starting to default to using misaligned memory accesses. So all the clueless SSE programmers will take a slient performance hit instead of crashing.
 
new is broken in the spec
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm?
 
1:00 AM
new completely ignores types with extended alignment.
 
I prefer it to crash since it tells me that it's misaligned. But obviously compiler writers prefer it not to crash.
At least compilers will align the stack to the SIMD size.
 
In case you want your very first variable in main() in to use SIMD intrinsics? :)
 
@StackedCrooked If the stack is misaligned, every SIMD vector on the stack will also be misaligned.
 
1:04 AM
There used to be huge (performance) problems in old compilers with doubles being misaligned due to poor stack and malloc alignment.
I've only read about them. I became a programmer long after those days were gone.
But yeah. When I peak at the assembly, all the functions that use SIMD have: and rsp, 0xffffffffffffffe0 at the top.
 
Very similar to nowadays ~problems~ with SIMD, no?
 
Why the invite?
 
Just to congrats you on y-cruncher. Call me shy.
 
oh
thx
 
you got a fan :)
 
1:11 AM
@StackedCrooked Wait till you hear the list of enemies I have.
And I'm sure there are more than I'm aware of.
 
Many hot CPUs, to start...
 
There's a lot of people out there, especially in the open source community, who want to rip out my organs and eat them.
 
"I've calculated PI before! LEAVE ME ALONE" - I hear my i7
 
well fuck, my cabal went full retard
 
@Jefffrey cabal went cannibal?
 
1:14 AM
@Mysticial beacuse they wantz thy sourcez?
 
@Kahler That's part of the reason.
 
I don't think anyone cares
 
The other part (mostly in academia) is because I haven't published any details on several of the internal algorithms in y-cruncher.
 
Academia sucks
 
@Rapptz Oh they do. I get emails asking for the source about twice a month.
 
1:17 AM
Just ignore them.
 
@Rapptz I do. And they send me nasty emails. It's funny to laugh at them.
Some of these people are "well respected" seasoned professors. And they're harassing a student??? (I was a student at the time.)
 
it happens all the time
so I'm not particularly surprised
 
It's one thing to flunk a student with an F. It's another to threaten the student's life through an email. aha
 
wtf
a professor threatening a student?
 
yeah, it happens.
 
1:19 AM
I found it entertaining enough to not report the guy to authorities.
 
@Mysticial yeah, one is illegal =/
 
Behavior aside, the prof writes interesting papers. I wouldn't want to lose that.
 
Call it jealousy. I've become a fan (tm) by disassembling (potentially more illegal?)
I've once proved my professor wrong, "hey he gonna love me!" - treated me bad till the end of semester =//
 
when it comes to profs I just nod and agree with whatever they say
the less I have to see their faces and talk to them, the happier I am
 
@AlexM. hahaha results may vary (tm by someone else also)
 
1:24 AM
always went well for me :D
 
That said, most of the professors who contact me are nice people.
People like David H. Bailey, Richard Brent - are amazing. I look up to them a lot.
 
Dude, i went curious about what would pop of that cannibalism thread, but it went dead
 
@Rapptz I learned that from Steins Gate.
 
@StackedCrooked LOL
 
thanks for reminding me, I wanted to watch that for a whle
 
1:34 AM
@Kahler Now that I think about it. It's very possible that some of these people are jealous. Since, at one point, it was clear I had a faster algorithm and they had no fucking clue how it worked.
 
And they have a clue now?
 
Once clueless, always clueless!
Except for me.
 
@Mysticial ...don't you say? hahaha specially mathematicians . I find it just plain beautiful 'home-made beats supercomputers'
 
@Borgleader I've since revealed top-level details for most of the things that are in y-cruncher. But there are some algorithms that I've said nothing about. And there are algorithms that nobody even knows exists except for myself and a few technically capable members of my family.
 
Single CPU is faster than multi-cpu.
More CPUs means slower inter-thread synchronization and higher cost of cache coherency.
At least that's my hypothesis after running some experiments.
 
1:39 AM
@StackedCrooked may explain why there are no Siamese-twin Nobel Prize winners
(...apart from the prize-share fight)
back to alignment-issues, (I'm reviewing some code of mine in the background)
hehe works fine
 
@Kahler I'll find you and I'll kill you.
 
@StackedCrooked yup
 
they got a few cool clips
 
[is this how you make a link?][1] Try this at ~5:06
and on

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J639xIdgzQU
 
1:53 AM
I am going on a suidicidal troll spree on meta - before the split of meta into 2 or more
 
ops. Lounge n00b me
 
The bigger audience, the better ...
 
2:27 AM
@StackedCrooked Terrible.
 
Now now.
 
0
Q: In std::vector, is vector a class or object?

JcodinWith std::vector std is a class, and vector is a class or object? If a class then can you nest classes.

what the hell
 
@StackedCrooked I don't really understand that band :(
 
um
 
is their music supposed to be satirical or something?
 
2:29 AM
I don't think so.
It just their idea of being cool I guess.
Although, it does have a hint of parody.
Zef is a South African counter-culture movement. Origin of the term The word zef is an Afrikaans slang word, which roughly translates to the English word common. Jack Parow, in an interview, describes the movement as "kind of like posh, but the opposite of posh." It differs from the Australian term bogan, and the British term chav in that it is mostly a positive term for oneself, rather than a derogatory term for someone else. It is also not typical of the poorest classes of the society, but rather a mostly white, lower-middle class subculture. Yolandi Visser of Die Antwoord is quote...
 
When weirdness goes pop, everybody wins.
 
Apparently they're coming to Belgium this year.
 
28
Q: I carelessly invested in a stock on a spike near the peak price. How can I salvage my investment?

John Isaiah CarmonaI carelessly invested on stock on a spike (I have been persuaded by a family member) and now my investment value is really low, as you can see below. Is there anyway to salvage my investment for short-term? Would it be better if I sell my stocks now and buy from other company? Or should I just...

^^ lol fail... ouch... sunk cost
 
@StackedCrooked You from Belgium? I plan to live there for a while just because of the music.
 
1 message moved to C#
 
3:04 AM
@Jefffrey Decided to let it be for now =p My IDE does not recognize the new alignments keywords and the extra 3 storage is O.K.
 
3:50 AM
woot, no idea what happened but now the lounge's site works for me again
 
4:22 AM
Hi. Anybody home?
 
hiya
 
@AlexM. Hi Alex. How are you today/tonight/this morning?
 
trying to decide whether or not it would be a good idea to go to sleep right now (7:30 AM)
I think I'll just stay awake and sleep properly tonight
other than that, great
 
@AlexM. Dawn: the time when men of reason go to bed.
Well, movie time for me. Later.
 
in my case it's more like the time men who sleep until 5 PM go to bed lol
I always manage to somehow sleep a lot in a single day then not fall asleep the next day
have fun, cya
I guess I'll get back to my code too, it won't write itself
 
 
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5:31 AM
2 messages moved to bin
 
inb4 instabin
dammit
 
maybe next time
 
I'm too fucking slow.
 
not the best bin ever imo, not like the q interrupted much
 
@JohanLarsson It's become a bit of a culture here to see who could instabin the fastest. And people like me who doesn't care to play sideline.
 
5:34 AM
:)
do you like it at Google?
 
yeah
 
no
 
I can't figure out the no
 
6:11 AM
I woke up before 8 and I'm fine #woah
 
/ drinking huh?
 
No, just had a mighty fucked up sleep schedule for 2 weeks
 
the birds sing really loud this time of the year
when is it right to use a struct in C#?
 
6:28 AM
When you want value semantics
 
that sounds like it would be often, I rarely write structs
is C# your main language?
 
7:00 AM
@CatPlusPlus why am I not a registered user on loungecpp.net? :p
 
Because you didn't register? dunno
 
I did not register? really?
 
I don't get notified when accounts are pending review, so you gotta ping me
Someone actually attached their CV to wiki account request :cripes:
@telkitty.exe There, activated
 
What's under the log in button?
 
Xeo
how smart you are! — hu wang 32 mins ago
I think I smell some sarcasm
 
7:14 AM
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@telkitty.exe MediaWiki being MediaWiki
 
7:42 AM
Oo, BTW this is what happened when I was banned last time after posting that mexican drug war video, I find it hilarious so I am posting it here :p
user image
4
 
Hello , Anyone can help me in image processing?
@ScarletAmaranth
 
@telkitty.exe I see you've revealed your true form
 
<- this?
 
^ yes
also, I've just finished reading the conversation you've posted and I'm positive you're quite an asshole :)
 
8:00 AM
lol then obviously you are wrong
because this --.-\v/-.-- is my true form
 
8:20 AM
> [Please! Stop the insanity. Link your freakin' apps fully. -Steve Wolf]
Yes, so heartbleed-like vulnerabilities can stay in forever!
yesterday, by sehe
@telkitty.exe Ok that's a bit too much to one-box, don't ya think
yesterday, by sehe
bit depressed, maybe, but whoa blurry
@ScarletAmaranth sigh
 
@sehe I was referring to her new profile image, vOv
 
@telkitty.exe I called it: Schizophrenia. Although seriously that lame response to Tim Post is rather a borderline symptom. Rethink your life attitude to people in life. Maybe.
 
Sehe: being passive aggressive and deadly boring much?
 
@Xeo Mmm. Can only smell the sarcasm iff it burns...
 
what is the right personality?
 
Where am I being passive?
For that matter, where am I being aggressive? If you don't want the attention, stop posting :/
@telkitty.exe That one
@MuadhProgrammer Drive by linking is not appreciated. Also, that question is way too broad. If you don't show where you're stuck with your current implementation, this is going to be closed anyway
 
Unfortunately I still command a great view per post ratio on a few forum/websites when I frequent
 
Why do you think that's unfortunate? Also... borderline it is!
 
if you want to be 'perfect', then the internet isn't for you
 
@sehe I am sorry I will try to explain
 
8:30 AM
@sehe I don't regret anything I do ... you do
 
The rule of happiness is being yourself and being tough (and wise + intelligent) not to trying to impress the mass because you will never impress everyone
 
> "Unfortunately I still command a great view per post ratio on a few forum/websites when I frequent"
So, why do you thin that's unfortunate?
 
unfortunate for you, don't start an attack against someone if you are not ready to be hurt
 
user1804599
It is weekend. :(
 
user1804599
8:38 AM
I am already bored to death.
 
no work?
 
@rightfold Why don't you invent a new programming language? :)
 
user1804599
Meh.
 
@telkitty.exe Oh, you're threatening me now? I'm shaking. Anyways, I don't get why any of what you say is unfortunate for me either. Speaking of boring then.
 
I'd bin the fight :)
 
8:44 AM
I almost would. "cba" though as Tomalak would say. I don't think it's much of a fight.
 
not much of a fight but more noise than a driveby link imo
 
Huh. The driveby link is unrelated. But perhaps you are just comparing it with a random noise source
@JohanLarsson True. I've been in other rooms too, though :/
 
@sehe If I were threatening you I would be doing this:
plonk and goodbye!
 
I measure it by lines on a medium resolution screen :)
@sehe what does it mean?
 
Every room has it's own ways to balance the moods/atmosphere. You can't have a noise-free room without it becoming uninteresting/useless. It's easy to come by and say "we do it this way". But it's not fair: I've been in other rooms too
 
8:47 AM
yea true
 
DJ: Everybody make some noooiiise
 
Ah. I was still elaborating. You already got it :S
 
lol
J# was my first programming language.
(Discounting basic in C64.)
Wait, no, it actually was J++.
 
I now have a VM running in a VM
 
9:08 AM
@StackedCrooked Microsoft?
 
9:27 AM
@CatPlusPlus wut
@CatPlusPlus Meh. You always have that.
@FredOverflow I didn't know "Overflow" is pronounced "Winkler" in German :)
 
urgh I woke up too early today
 
Agreed
 
fucking dog started barking at like, 6am.
 
Maybe the dog wants some attention too
 
at 6am it can just be patient.
 
9:34 AM
how are the drugs?
 
good.
 
good! :)
 
> Unfortuntately, the certificate revocation process is far from perfect and was never built for revocation at mass scale. If every site revoked its certificates, it would impose a significant burden and performance penalty on the Internet.
it's all going down
:P
 
do you change passwords now?
 
I have not yet changed any passwords.
 
9:39 AM
me neither
 
@DeadMG fucking dog started snoring at like, 7am. We gave up and got up at 7:10.
 
user1804599
Fuck you C# for not having free functions.
 
@rightfold You need a singleton to store them in.
 
one of my dogs woke me up early also, actually I think it is a good way to wake up. Gradually waking up as he starts to walk around in the apartment.
Think he does it when gf leaves for work
 
@DeadMG Look who's sleeping over at my place:
 
9:43 AM
@JohanLarsson I didn't want to wakeup that early. I had a lot of beer last night.
 
I blame the beer not the dog :)
 
Too much doge
 
@rightfold but what is a free function?
 
My screen shot script is failing. Mmm
 
@JohanLarsson Google 'C'
 
user1804599
9:44 AM
It is a function that is not a member of a class.
 
user1804599
It is a namespace-level function.
 
how is it used?
 
@JohanLarsson You just call it, no class or object required.
 
user1804599
Like this:
 
user1804599
void foo() {}
void main() { foo(); }
 
9:46 AM
@JohanLarsson Typically used for functions that act only on the parameters passed and so maintain no state.
 
user1804599
Rather than something moronic like this:
 
how is it so much better than a static function Fuuu.Meh();?
 
user1804599
static class HolyShitWhyDoIHaveToGiveThisAName {
    public static void foo() {}
    public static void main() { foo(); }
}
 
Damn. That was slow. I think imgur is having real trouble at the moment
 
@JohanLarsson If the function has no connection with Fuuu, it should not be a method of Fuuu.
@sehe You are dog-sitting?
 
9:49 AM
Yup
 
> In persistent rumors of insolvency, “MT Gox” has been pronounced “Empty Gox” for some time in mockery.
 
@sehe Nice - I just want to reach into the image and give doge an ear rub;)
 
That's a good one.
 
@MartinJames That's what they've evolved for, right :)
 
@sehe lol:)
 
9:53 AM
@rightfold c# 6.0 has it, I believe. Or rather they have VB.NET's idea of a "global" class (so you can "use" all static members of a static class inside the containing namespace without qualification. In COM, this was a "Module" and had the effect of instantiating a singleton instance of the containing COM object)
 
C# 6 has static imports, earlier versions don't have anything like that
 
I don't know why I left 6.0 out :S
 
user1804599
Still meh.
 
user1804599
Have to give the class a name.
 
You're meh.
 
9:55 AM
@rightfold Just put it one level up in NS hierarchy and treat it as a namespace
 
user1804599
Cannot give it the same name as a namespace in the same namespace.
 
Hmm. Ah
 
user1804599
class A { }
namespace A { }
 
user1804599
Is an error.
 
Make it a different namespace geez
 
9:56 AM
@rightfold It should be. Types are not for prettifying (or confusing) the call site. They're for disambiguating and compile time checking
 
you could name the class _?
 
No don't
That's dumb
 
:)
rightfold do it!
 
Huge kudos to CloudFlare for sticking their necks out and actually inviting people to prove things. But it also shows, companies are arrogant about security.
 
@rightfold yeah, missing semicolon
 
user1804599
10:00 AM
The semicolon after the closing brace of a class definition is optional in C#.
 
Oh, C#?
 
It's a silly syntax
 
Suddenly, a coffin
 
user1804599
No, it is Haskell. That is why I am talking about C#.
 
10:35 AM
Fuck me. 'Why doesn't anyone answer my question?' 12 minutes after a walldump of network server and client code with no aparrent attempt at debugging:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23027887/server-keeps-crashing
 
@FredOverflow Maybe you can increase your console font size next time. Students probably also gonna like it
 
10:50 AM
OMG freddie, you totally look different than what I thought ... not that I gave too much thought about what you look like :D
Freddie, u r a professor?
 
which one is fred?
 
2 days ago, by FredOverflow
Attention German Loungerians: My first online lecture, starting at 48:33.
Assume he's the one appearing at 48:33 in the video ... as usual I could be wrong
 
That arindrajit moron I linked above is now seriously pissing me off. He's ban-bait and I may bite soon.
 
user1804599
This is funny. ideone.com/EEpuRN
 
@rightfold Is it funny? Depends...
 
user1804599
10:59 AM
lol
 
@MartinJames lol
 
user1804599
Should allow lazy dependencies.
 
@telkitty.exe yeah, he is the one chiming in later
 
user1804599
And allow qualified dependencies.
 
user1804599
But first: time to get my lazy butt out of my bed.
 
11:03 AM
@FredOverflow I love your hair ... almost as long as mine & mine is fairly long :p
 
Hmmm.. 'I mean what do you expect, keeping me wait for more than an hour and then return and give a reply which isn't even a solution to the problem?' - I think arindrajit is a troll now. Fuck him, I'm not gonna get banned by that fuckwit. I'll just ignore.
 
BTW, for those who is not aware of my latest 'adventure' on meta:
-15
Q: Can we upgrade the unicorns to something more ... predatory

telkitty.exeNothing against unicorns of course, they are great ... but can we upgrade the meta mascot to something more ... majestic? I mean, am I the only one who is not a fan of something that looks like an ass and eats only grass? Also, on the issue of whether unicorns are real ...

 
Sam
Higuys..!
Hi FO!
 
@bamboon Do you mean the font size inside the PET emulator or the Eclipse console?
 
'Hi, fuck off' ??
 
Sam
11:16 AM
FredOverflow!
 
@FredOverflow at first I only saw the PET emulator, but I think it would be good for both, the Eclipse Editor and the Eclipse console/output.
 
Oh 'FredOverflow' :)
 
Sam
^ :) :D
 
Of course, I don't really know how it feels from the class room.
 
@bamboon As far as I can tell, it is impossible to increase the font size in the PET emulator. Before the filming began, I spent 1-2 minutes searching for an option to double the size of the output window (most emulators have such an option), but I could not find it.
@telkitty.exe I am not a professor, not even a doctor :) I just love lecturing, and sometimes I get a chance and take it.
@telkitty.exe I haven't measured in a while, but I'm pretty sure it maxed out at about 60cm.
 
11:19 AM
@FredOverflow Oh, that sucks. But I assume you are actually done using it anyway for the rest of your lectures ^^.
 
@FredOverflow maybe you should fix the caption then :p it says prof dr Heinz xxx when the video starts at 48:33 @_@
then it changed to fred ^_^
 
@telkitty.exe I neither filmed nor uploaded the video, I have no control over it.
@telkitty.exe I love how it just says Fred without anything else :)
 
Is that a figure of speech?
 
You seem to be obsessed with magpies that's not healthy
 
11:24 AM
:'(
 
@arindrajit Will you be happy if you "don't get banned" but "don't get answers"? Stinky attitudes on the internet are commonly ignored. You pick your poison. Also re: "don't get me wrong" - It's impossible to get you wrong when you complain about not getting answers after 12 mere minutes. It's unambiguous. — sehe 1 min ago
 
user1804599
Hmm. Switching banks.
 
user1804599
Sounds like a nightmare.
 
@telkitty.exe Don't worry. If you wanna pretend I'm a magpie so you can rub yourself, you have my blessings.
 
@sehe I modflagged it, something I've only done once before.
 
11:26 AM
@rightfold Bank switching like in hardware?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
Like in money.
 
@MartinJames I've flagged a comment as rude/offensive (and vtc)
 
@sehe try holding your breath for 12 minutes. they will be very long.
 
@rightfold I did it two years ago, was np. Trick is to have the new bank do the job, they want your money fast.
 
11:30 AM
 
user1804599
Well, I cannot fully switch banks.
 
user1804599
Since this bank doesn’t offer credit cards.
 
user1804599
So I’ll have three bank accounts.
 
Why doesn't anyone answer my question? — arindrajit 3 hours ago
@MartinJames I +1ed
 
@sehe Yeah. It's not something I enjoy doing, but he was bitchslapping JBNizet for having the audacity of spotting his dup, the temerity to ask for debugging info and the abilty to count up to 12.
@JohanLarsson :) Yeah - I wonder why nobody answered:)
 
11:33 AM
@FredOverflow I have shown you the other freddie ... the 'friendly' Australian magpie
 
@MartinJames I didn't +1 the q, just the gimme answers comment
 
@JohanLarsson S'OK, I understand:)
 
@MartinJames IKR
 
Also, I just spotted 'And for the downvote I will make sure that it gets balanced pretty soon.' - sounds like a threat of serial downvoting to me.
 
@telkitty.exe sweet
 
11:41 AM
Good morning..
well..here anyhow..
 
@bamboon The font size looks quite small in the video, but you have to keep in mind that the screen is projected onto a very large canvas.
@bamboon There probably won't be any more lectures, I just filled in for someone.
 
no more Prof. Fred? :(
 
truly saddening indeed
been a while since I saw anybody use Eiffel ^^
 
> - In a debate, if someone throws a pile of links or facts around, reply with “OMG ZERG RUSH!!!oneoneone”
 
@StackedCrooked lol
 

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