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3:00 PM
strength through unity, unity through faith!
 
never mind
 
@DeadMG Ignorance is strength.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes if that it compiles means that it almost for sure will run correctly, that wouldnt be a too fun Losing is FUN game
 
@gnzlbg haha. haha. In C++?
It doesn't :(
 
3:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I wouldn't know.
 
neither does in haskell
 
@DeadMG I hope you at least got the reference.
 
but it is better than in languages where you implement generics using void*
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's me, remember?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know.
 
3:03 PM
actually no, no I did not.
 
void* is the ultimate generic
 
@DeadMG 1984.
 
and it generates less code
thus templates and stuff are for pussies
 
@gnzlbg Right, bloat.
I'll ask you to leave.
 
im googling for STL for C
most people reimplement it using macros
instead of void*
what a shame
they should give their C drivings license back
 
Xeo
3:07 PM
Okay, great. It's 5pm, something happened, and now my work environment is apparently utterly broken
 
Pretty much all C code sucks.
 
the thing is, if you reimplement the STL using void*
you can at least play the "no code bloat" card
reimplementing it using macros just means that you are a moron
and should have used C++ instead
 
@Xeo Leave, sleep on it, and try again tomorrow.
 
Dammit, now I used ::template
 
i bet some of these people write a TEMPLATE macro
oh wait, they already did and standarized it...
 
3:10 PM
You mean _Generic?
 
yes
 
That's just call-site overloading.
Not at all the same.
 
i sneezed and my contact lense flew away
brb
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel There's nothing to sleep on. The IDE crashed, and now some basic functionality of said IDE is simply ... gone, it seems.
(That basic functionality being something without which our app doesn't run)
 
for fuck's sake.. boost/multiprecision isn't even there in Boost 1.40 (shut up)
guess i'm wrapping std::bitset<16> myself .......................................
 
3:15 PM
@Xeo lolwut
Is that Flash?
 
Xeo
FlashDevelop (written in Java, IIRC)
 
repost?
 
Xeo
And I really have no idea wtf happened
I'm utterly perplexed right now, because I can't imagine in any way how this basic functionality was just... lost.
guess I'll try reinstalling...
 
3:18 PM
is this an idiomatic Go - play.golang.org/p/36f_u06SBd ?
 
this reminds me, I've never tried Go
 
@AlexM. don't unless you really need to
 
what's wrong with it?
 
what's good about it?
 
@Jefffrey nothing
 
3:21 PM
It's meh
 
but rightfold loves it
 
It compiles fast. Or something.
 
@AlexM. everything
 
@Jefffrey Shouldn't that be enough of an argument?
4
 
It's C but not really because it was made by Plan9 guys who are really bad at C
Apart from that it's just unremarkable
Probably the most interesting thing about it was the naming drama
 
3:22 PM
so it brings nothing new to the table?
 
what naming drama?
 
well it has goroutines/channels but the language is awful
 
That's pretty much it. It has that channels thing.
@DeadMG There was a language named "Go!" already.
 
orite
 
Like it tries to be C, but it's bad at it
 
3:24 PM
welp think I'm safe enough with Wide
 
And it also tries to be Erlang, but it's also bad at it
 
@Jefffrey He's FOTM driven; he loves anything that's new.
Like any hipster, really.
 
And sorta Python maybe (also bad)
 
ic
 
It's really meh
But yeah it compiles fast
So there you go??
 
Xeo
3:25 PM
s/g/G/
 
dat pun??
 
You know what else compiles fast?
Bra*nfuck.
So Go is Bra*nfuck, but bad because it has features.
 
Not with my compiler :smugdog:
 
python also has a fast compiler. not native though
 
Most languages that aren't a clusterfuck of bad decisions have fast compilers
 
3:28 PM
:smugdog: -> for those too lazy to search
 
Daisy's gonna be pretty fuckin' smug when I go to feed her
 
> Before a System/360 was delivered to Tokai Bank in Japan, "all operations were performed manually, forcing employees to run calculations on abacuses into the late hours of the night."
praise IBM! they let the japanese stop calculating things by hand and make anime instead
 
People were counting things by hand?? UNBELIEVABLE
 
wtf is this shit
counting by hand
 
3:36 PM
Abacuses.
Not by hand.
 
What do you use to operate an abacuse
 
IBM just delivered faster abacuses.
 
Checkmate
 
You use hands to operate a computer too. Especially back in the day.
 
No I use my teeth
Also my jaw hurts
 
3:37 PM
You should look into switching to toes.
 
Can't seem to be able to relax the muscles and it sucks
> Incentivising P2P applications is one of the interesting problems Bitcoin could solve.
 
@CatPlusPlus Use your hands.
 
they're everywhere
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
Xeo
k, restart time
 
3:40 PM
As if BT hasn't "solved" that yet.
 
What is the "problem" anyway?
 
Why am I even reading HN it's so fucking terrible
 
> My idea was to open a security box in a bank that contained hand written keys to open an encrypted password store in some publicly accessible location.
Sounds a lot more robust.
 
3:49 PM
Those safe deposit boxes can be opened by relatives with court order if you die, and you can even name someone in particular to open it in your will.
@Nican That's a future extension point. They can add new options without breaking any code.
Or for backwards compatibility, where all the once existing options eventually became useless.
 
QFile::map is apparently removed in Qt5.
 
Why would you want people to post as you on the internet after you die
Just give them the bank account and who cares about the fucking passwords
Nerds
 
Trying to find out where it moved it.
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh. I'm assuming it's something actually important.
 
Like, bank account. That's p much the only thing I can think of. And you don't need to give away password to do that
 
3:53 PM
@Nican A quick Google search says it's QFileDevice.
 
Thanks!
 
@CatPlusPlus What about other transferrable assets I own like say, domains?
 
I thought you said important
 
It's valuable.
It's not my Twitter account.
I guess you could get court orders for all the companies involved.
And my Bitcoins!
 
MY BUTTS WILL DIE WITH ME
Cold storage haha gedit
 
3:59 PM
> Si c'est un rêve, réveille-moi donc. Ça va être notre tour ça sera pas long.
 
I'm just opening and closing bookmarks
There is nothing to do
There is nothing happening
My food is still en route so I can't even go to sleep
 
I was thinking of something
 
download rx and play some then?
 
a probably terrible idea to solve brute-forcing attacks
 
I don't know that game
@Jefffrey Shoot first?
 
4:10 PM
slow but who cares
this is not my bottleneck by a long shot
 
Gosh, it's takes that much to write a simple 128-bit ID type?
No __int128 in your compiler?
 
This is the idea: after X login attempts you introduce a variable p (0 < p < 1) that identifies the probability that a login attempt is actually checked against the password. You could start with a very high number at the very beginning and then decrease it down to 0.5. The rightful user will be able to access, in average, in 2 login attempts and the attacker will have a 50% chance of getting in after the whole round of brute forcing is done.
 
Xeo
okay
turns out it was something in my code, but the problem still makes no sense whatsoever
 
@Jefffrey Uh
 
@Jefffrey Just block them after a while. Done.
Neither accounts for distributed attacks.
 
4:13 PM
Don't lock accounts
It just makes DoS possible
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes then the real user can't log in?
 
@Jefffrey No, block the attacker.
 
how?
 
You do realise that vast majority of brute forcing is done on offline database, not against login forms, right
 
Block their IP?
 
4:14 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol?
 
@Jefffrey Why lol?
 
Xeo
welp, fuck this, time to go home
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because IP is extremely unreliable?
 
If they're trying login forms, they probably have a botnet
Also your probability idea is no different than just temporarily locking the account for increasing amount of time
Which is bad
 
because...?
 
4:16 PM
@Jefffrey Wait, you mean you add this for any login attempt with the same account regardless of its source?
 
2 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
It just makes DoS possible
 
In computing, a denial-of-service (DoS) or distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack is an attempt to make a machine or network resource unavailable to its intended users. Although the means to carry out, motives for, and targets of a DoS attack may vary, it generally consists of efforts to temporarily or indefinitely interrupt or suspend services of a host connected to the Internet. As clarification, DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks are sent by two or more persons, or bots. (See botnet) DoS (Denial of Service) attacks are sent by one person or system. Perpetrators of DoS ...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes, you can't identify a guest from another reliably
 
IP is not 'unreliable'
 
@CatPlusPlus how is DoS more possible than not having that system?
 
4:17 PM
It's just unlikely to be one IP
@Jefffrey It denies the service to the account owner
Hijacking accounts is not done with the same amount of traffic as DoSing something
 
@Jefffrey You're building in a mechanism that allows arbitrary users to block legitimate ones.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's not all I've been doing
 
(If, again, they actually do it online for whatever reason)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I hope not now
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I didn't meant time, I meant LoC.
 
4:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok ;p
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes again, for just one time in average
you could explain that to the user
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm gifted in other ways
 
Also, no, it's not 2 logins with 50%.
 
"Sometimes you won't be able to login! Have a good day!"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but the second time they succeed, in average
 
4:20 PM
That's not how probabilities work.
@Jefffrey No.
The probability of succeeding after two or less tries is 75%.
 
If you deny a login, they start to wonder what the fuck is wrong
And probably trying different passwords
Non-deterministic locking is even worse than deterministic one
Don't Lock Accounts
 
Do anyone have a better idea other than "don't do web" or "don't protect against brute forcing"?
 
And, yet again yet again, this won't stop the majority of attacks because they're not done online!!
 
find out how much of a crazy dictator you are: politicalcompass.org/test
 
You should block the IPs though; they're wasting your resources.
 
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4:28 PM
Man.
 
so you figured it out
 
@AlexM. I failed, too liberal. I should have given the state more power.
 
still taking it myself
 
I got a little left and very libertarian
 
do I win something?
 
4:37 PM
50 XP :D
 
I like green, and I think I like nelson mandela btw
Some of the questions were awfully broad though. I would have wanted a "Maybe" option there.
 
user1804599
I would be in the purple area.
 
yeah or, "Not interested" or something
 
user1804599
But TL;DP.
 
Also, I'm more of a righty person, but there were a lot of questions about marijuana/sex/school. So yeah, they framed me.
 
4:42 PM
@Jefffrey Don't smoke marijuana while having sex - you may burn down your school.
 
lol
 
he he
 
user1804599
@MartinJames But remember: “if a man lies with a man as he would with a woman, they should both be stoned.”
 
@rightfold Didn't think they had Stella round Leviticus' time.
 
@rightfold Don't quote the bible ever again, please. I feel dumber already.
 
user1804599
@AlexM. So politically correct.
 
That website is made by communists.
 
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95
wtf, that is a bit too left
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes apparently not
but at least I'll fallback on it now when it's present
:)
 
4:51 PM
@Jefffrey it is rigged, they only have one gif
 
lol
@JohanLarsson wait, are you serious?
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
Everyone is in the same pane.
 
@JohanLarsson lol
also:
17 mins ago, by Jefffrey
@AlexM. http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-1.00&soc=-2.97
 
4:54 PM
@rightfold do it
 
user1804599
:effort:
 
> Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
 
effort 1.2 on a scale 1..10
 
(That's from 1Cor 13:4)
 
the questions were not very neutral
 
4:56 PM
@JohanLarsson I found the questions were not biased enough.
 
ho do you mean?
 
When you have "Strongly agree" and such as answers, the statements should be absolute.
"Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade."? What does "strongly agree" mean here?
 
I strongly disagreed that one :)
 
Meaning it is never necessary?
 
but you have point, bad phrasing
 
4:59 PM
(I'm not interested in your reasoning, only in the semantics here)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yea, that is my view
 
I found it a bit hard to strongly agree/disagree with some
 
what was your score/gif?
 
I think it should have been "Protectionism is necessary in trade".
 
because I always tried thinking of exceptions
 
4:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes +1
I feel I must strongly when given the opportunity, feels so Scandinavian and meh to click in the middle :)
 
@JohanLarsson Not done. There are points I have not formed an opinion about.
> Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Gibran right?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is it about the tweet?
 
@JohanLarsson What is that?
@Jefffrey Nah, it's a quote from the Epistle to the Romans.
Paul's stuff has a lot of good quotes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Though you were quoting The Prophet
 
5:03 PM
(I'm not trying to convert you!)
 
nice book if you haven't read it
 
@JohanLarsson I was quoting the First Epistle to the Corinthians.
 
Bible?
 
heh
 
5:05 PM
so you are going to be in the blue quadrant
 
Er, why?
Because I read a lot of books?
(gdb) skip functino
No function found named functino.
Ignore function pending future shared library load? (y or n)
(gdb) skip functino
No function found named functino.
Ignore function pending future shared library load? (y or n)
(gdb) fuck you
 
cos Bible, reading a lot makes you green for sure
 
I'm not a Christian.
But I have read more of the Bible than most Christians.
 
 
I read it once, and the quaran. Long time ago though.
 
5:11 PM
I only read a bible meant for children, when I was 5; my grandma became very religious after my uncle died
but overall, my whole family was crazy about educating me
it's especially hard for me to get away from them now
I'm contemplating changing my number and leaving the country w/o telling anyone
or maybe leave a note telling everyone to leave me alone
 
What about simply telling them without running away?
 
user1804599
@AlexM. I read an edition of Mein Kampf meant for children.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes won't work
especially with my mother
 
how old?
 
apparently she believes that as my mother she has the right to know about everything I do and has the right to have a say in it at any age
 
5:15 PM
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I "jokingly" said that if she keeps on calling me just to ask where I am and what I'm doing I'll call the cops because I see it as a form of harassment
@JohanLarsson me or her?
since I'm in college it's definitely comfy to have my parents pay my rent; this way I have more money to myself
 
@AlexM. you
 
they also started to bring this up
 
@AlexM. Sounds normal.
 
I think if they do it any longer, I'll just pay my own rent and break any ties
@JohanLarsson 21
@R.MartinhoFernandes not to me
I guess they must see me as being broken or something, especially considering our family in general
my mother's side has this make-many-children-and-educate-them-properly policy
it's nice I guess, having a shitload of family members to talk to and ask for help if needed
but it's not for me
whenever I have to change a decision because of external factors (i.e. other people) I always feel sorry because I won't get the time back to try again
sure this happens a lot in life, but if you keep such close ties with family you're just asking for it
 
5:24 PM
I'm not much of a family person either. My parent's were not very fit to be raising a child and made a lot of mistakes. Enough to where it was detrimental to my own family. That's where I cut ties to them. I think that unless they have done something to make things impossible to repair, don't cut ties off. keep them at a distance, but there really isn't any going back from cutting off ties.
 
dunno what I could repair
for the last 10 years it was really a do what we say or no more money for you relationship
we never talked about anything other than what stuff I had to do since they were investing money in me
I don't think it takes a high level of intelligence to realize that if you build up a relationship this way you become redundant once the child manages to earn money on his own?
 
I would still wait to gain some distance. once that happens and you have already set up boundries that they are breaking, then it's a lot more understandable. not saying it isn't now but it's good to take that extra step to see what happens.
 
you could RAID 'em
 
@Ak_Crusader that's probably best
once my current contract ends I'll go somewhere else and get a better salary
I guess that would be the best moment to move somewhere else on my own
and see how they react
 
It sucks to wait for that time, but you can only feel better about yourself for sticking it out in the end.
 
5:30 PM
@cHao We are so close. We can make love to each other.
 
@Ak_Crusader it's not that much longer
less than half a year now
 
That's the longest part of it all, relatively. I remember the 6 months prior for me were a killer. spent almost 24/7 biting my tongue and riding it out.
 
I read that as "I remember the 6 months prior to me being a killer"
 
Well duh, how do you think i cut off ties?
 
lol
 
5:40 PM
have I mentioned how fucking awesome drugs are?
 
you just did
 
they're fucking awesome.
 
And you did again, just right there.
 
want: more drugs.
 
what drugs are you on?
 
5:43 PM
amitriptyline
 
Nutrigrain bars?
aww I wish it was nutrigrain bars.
 
@DeadMG antidepressant? were you depressed?
 
ah, not exactly.
the usual treatment for depression is 75-150mg a day and I'm only taking 10mg.
but they can have a similar effect on nerves and stuff in the intestines.
 
no shit it makes you euphoric
I'm happy for ya :D
 
I ate a shitload of chocolate yesterday and it was like
whatever
 
5:46 PM
that is awesome
 
I guess puppy couldn't just... stomach it anymore
 
An anti depressant that is so strong, it makes other people happy for you. i need to keep this in mind.
 
also means I probably won't have to have gallbladder surgery
 
@DeadMG would that solve your problem permanently?
 
nope.
 
5:47 PM
so they still don't have a clue
 
in fact, I'm pretty confident that it would have no effect whatsoever.
 
@DeadMG are the pills a viable long-term solution tho?
 
@Jefffrey The pathology of IBS is unknown- i.e., nobody knows what the cause actually is.
@ScarletAmaranth Dunno. I do think they make me sleepy and it's hard to concentrate.
 
@DeadMG stress maybe?
 
nope.
at least, not in my case.
 
5:50 PM
I have had similar symptoms in stressful periods. The mind is pretty powerful.
 
yeah, but stressful periods and gut problem periods have no correlation for me.
 
I see
 
maybe it's not stress but lack thereof! :)
quick, someone ask a stupid question!
 
well
I want to see what the higher doses do or don't do for me before actually running off and searching for employment or something.
so I'm hardly declaring myself cured.
but I am feeling pretty good about this stuff.
 
@DeadMG What about normal food?
 
5:56 PM
dunno
waiting for higher dose first.
I have a worse track record with normal food than I do with chocolate.
 
user1804599
overdose
 
in some ways, anyway.
 
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