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7:08 PM
cant we delete the chat messages
 
which one do you want to delete?
 
my own one
 
let me rephrase - you only have the option to delete it for a short period of time, but if you would like: an owner can move it to another room (one named Trash)
 
are you the owner?
 
one of many, yes
 
7:11 PM
@Greg Just wondering your Ux
 
Ux?
 
It seems the 1520 is less capable than the 1020
Better battery life though
@Jenny User experience
At least I thought it was
 
user experience of what?
 
1520
Lumia
Nokia
 
i dont use nokia lumia
 
7:14 PM
Lol perhaps not. But I was talking to Greg
 
And I am so sorry I am so mistalen here right now
sorry
yes I just got it. sorry
 
And how can I tell you which msg that I need to remove?
@steve
 
Permalink?
 
what is this now?
 
7:17 PM
> And how can I tell you which msg that I need to remove?
 
2 messages moved to Trash can
 
;)
Hey!
 
lol
just giving a demo
 
Lulz
 
how else am i supposed to feel cool
 
7:18 PM
Ok then. Just this once ;)
 
woot!
 
Hehe
 
@st
@steve
Is this permalink thing notes you which message that I need to get removed?
 
Hover on your msg. Click the arrow on the left, right click permalink
Copy & paste
 
aww thanks
 
7:21 PM
I am seriously curious to know what message you want to have removed
 
anyone who knows the answer for this?
 
@LewsTherin me too haha
 
@Jenny What is the question?
 
that map thing
 
@Steve It better be something diiiiiiiiiiiiirty haha
 
7:23 PM
i dont know how to permalink
Don't!
 
Do you see the permalink link?
> Hover on your msg. Click the arrow on the left, right click permalink
Copy & paste
Press enter
 
@Jenny every message has a url, when you click the arrow to the left of your message, a link will appear that says "permalink", click the link, it'll open a new tab/window, then copy and paste the url into this chat
 
And press enter
 
2 hours ago, by user3398640
anyone who knows the answer for this?
 
Yay
Disappointed
 
7:25 PM
2 hours ago, by user3398640
1
Q: How to extend map apk in c# for windows mobile applications

ElizaHi I need to extend google map apk with the intention of marking all possible routes which can lead to a specific destination from a specific starting point. I need to mark all these routes on my map. How can I do it?

got ittt
do it now
trash trash
 
Why?
2 hours ago.. no one was going to scroll all the way up
 
but I need. I was asked to
 
by who?
 
By my friend
I was trying to help
so remove it will u :/
 
@LewsTherin Less capable how?
 
7:27 PM
@Jenny Tut tut.. asking for help on homework?
 
nooo
that's their project
 
@Greg No difference in CPU, less RAM, less capable camera etc..
 
@LewsTherin It has a faster processor, Quad-Core, it has same RAM. Less capable camera.
 
So the camera is the only downgrade?
 
@Steve
do
 
7:29 PM
@Jenny sorry, too busy to scroll up through 2 hours of messages to delete an obscure message thats neither offensive nor meaningful
 
Well, technically you have the link now ;)
 
I am angry with you now. You are not too busy
 
Be cool once more!
 
how do i delete via a link?
you try lol
 
@LewsTherin Yeah, but the battery last 3 days and it has a bigger screen, higher resolution, and all the new Nokia software updates.
 
7:30 PM
@Steve Cool is overrated.. and effort
@Greg 3 days.. nice. Ugh, I have to charge my every day and night
 
@Steve If I was an owner of this group I won't ask people to beg me for a simple thing like this you are a bad owner
 
@Steve Oh you are right. You can't. My bad
 
@Jenny not by choice, but from a lack of functionality of the chat, sorry bud
 
@LewsTherin Yeah, it has alot of benefits over the 1020. The 1020 has other benefits over the 1520, it depends on usage.
 
Yup. So it seems.
 
7:33 PM
@Jenny and i'll let me boss know what you think of me working instead of deleting your message, i'm sure he'll be pleased
 
Whoa you are sounding very Irish today
 
yea i am sure he will be please to get know that you were helping a girl out there
 
> and i'll let me boss know
 
are you seriously working? you are chatting!
 
> that you were helping a girl out there
Lol
 
7:35 PM
LOL
dont paste back
 
Sorry girl/woman.. but we don't leap at your commands.
 
I am not a women you old man
:P
 
Da fuq
 
mmm banh mi
I love getting a tasty sandwich for $4
 
@Pheonixblade9 Yikess.. I hate those things. So good.. so tasty but never satisfying
 
7:37 PM
@LewsTherin this was a big one. similar to a subway sammich
 
@Pheonixblade9 can you go back to two hours later chat ?
 
@Pheonixblade9 Hate subways.
 
me coming back to the room
 
@KendallFrey Lol
 
7:38 PM
@LewsTherin same. there's one in the same building as me. so it's really for emergencies only.
 
@LewsTherin hate you
 
@KendallFrey Hate you back
@Pheonixblade9 Ah gotcha.
 
subway is best fast food
 
@KendallFrey nah, just the "healthiest"
 
your murcan is showing
 
7:39 PM
@LewsTherin it's a bit of a food desert here. multiple cafes, but all of them are terrible or I'm just sick of them. Luckily Amazon is only a mile walk away and there's tons of variety there
 
more people need to know what a merkin is
 
@Steve and @le
 
@Pheonixblade9 Amazon like the online shop? :O
 
@LewsTherin
I am elaving
 
@Jenny hey
 
7:40 PM
good night
 
@Jenny Ok ciao
 
okay, later, and have a good night
 
ciao
 
@LewsTherin Amazon as in Amazon.com's main campus
 
!!urban elaving
 
7:40 PM
@KendallFrey No definition found for elaving
 
was soming for something really NSFW
 
@Pheonixblade9 No way? Seriously. That's cool I guess
 
I take lunch a lot because I'm cheap and stingy
 
!!urban bill cosby sweater
 
!!urban soming
 
7:41 PM
@LewsTherin No definition found for soming
@Pheonixblade9 bill cosby sweater Before having sex, one eats a shit load of fruity pebbles. During sex. you induce vomiting on her chest to mimic a bill cosby sweater.
 
@KendallFrey better?
 
yes, but no context makes it not funny
 
@LewsTherin yeah, you didn't know I worked near downtown Seattle? I live 2 miles from Pike Place Market lol
!!urban zip zop zoopity bop
 
I get lunch at work.. free. It averages between bad and good
 
@Pheonixblade9 No definition found for zip zop zoopity bop
 
7:42 PM
@LewsTherin yeah we're a bit small to do that. Maybe if I change jobs... but idk if I want to do that
 
i work at home hurr durr
 
@Pheonixblade9 Well I'm not American. So I don't know ha
 
my boss is addressing some of my grievances, which is good
 
@KendallFrey Shh.. I still get free lunch ha
 
I get free everything
 
7:42 PM
@LewsTherin free is a good price :)
 
except car insurance for the 0 km I drive every day
 
@KendallFrey Even to work for free
@Pheonixblade9 I agree. Even if the food is terrible lol
 
@LewsTherin yeah because there's always the option.
and I have a hard time believing the food is truly terrible. Some food I got in the lunchroom at my school actually made me vomit regularly. And I have a strong stomach
 
Nah the food isn't terrible just not my taste
I get toast instead
Maybe some eggs and strawberries.
 
gotcha.
 
7:44 PM
ffs I suddenly crave homemade donuts
that was weird
better get a pregnancy test
 
@KendallFrey I split a mighty-o donut with my lead. We walked up to grab coffee at a fancy place.
 
Am I the only one who liked school lunch
 
Donuts.. yum. Just hate too much sugar on my donuts.
 
do they have roll up the rim? if no, not fancy
@Shoe yes
 
@Shoe where did you grow up?
@KendallFrey roll up the rim? what do you mean
 
7:45 PM
School lunch was expensive.. and samey
 
@Pheonixblade9 Iowa
 
@Pheonixblade9 lrn2canada
 
@LewsTherin this was a peanut butter chocolate vegan donut. It was pretty tasty
 
!!urban roll up the rim
 
@KendallFrey roll up the rim The process of giving someone a rim job with the rolling motion of the tongue. Similar to the rolling up of the rim on Tim Hortons coffee cups
 
7:46 PM
-_-
 
Not too far from canada
 
read the second half only
 
@KendallFrey I see what you mean. They had china there, but I got it to-go so I could take it with me
 
@Pheonixblade9 Oh, I hate peanut butter. I have never actually tasted it. Because of the smell
 
@Shoe also.. when did you grow up?
 
7:46 PM
Tims has mugs I think
if you ask for one
 
I was eating school lunches in the 90's - early 2000's.
 
@Pheonixblade9 so was I
 
@LewsTherin Peanut butter is maybe the fourth best food ever
 
gotcha. maybe you just had higher quality
 
@KendallFrey Peanut butter is food? What are you on about?
 
7:47 PM
peanut butter+chocolate=nearly ejaculating from happiness
 
Sometimes I got double lunch on chicken nugget tater day
 
Nutella > Peanut butter
 
I had to get a hamburger every day because everything else made me puke.
 
@LewsTherin no, no sigh
 
Yes
 
7:48 PM
@LewsTherin Not to me ;)
 
Seriously? How do you guys stand the smell?
 
this is similar to what my lunches usually looked like (though you can't tell without the smell/sound of it how gross it is)
 
@LewsTherin Nutella is slightly better plain, but PB is better with anything
NOODLES
I LUV NOODLES
 
or this:
 
I love noodles as well
Ramen!
 
7:49 PM
no, spaghetti
 
@Pheonixblade9 Is that lasagne?
 
That dont look too bad
I'd eat it
 
or lasagna
 
@LewsTherin Smell of peanut butter?
 
7:50 PM
Naw man those are enchiladas
 
@KendallFrey Eh, and I thought my spelling was wrong
@ReedCopsey Yeah
 
!!define lasagna
 
@KendallFrey lasagna Flat sheet of pasta.
 
!!define lasagne
 
!!define lasagne
 
7:51 PM
@KendallFrey lasagne plural form of lasagna
 
@LewsTherin I think it's a wet burrito
 
@LewsTherin lasagne plural form of lasagna
 
haha
 
it has real cheese though, which makes it higher quality than what I ate
 
@KendallFrey Lulz
 
7:51 PM
@Pheonixblade9 like an enchilada? epic
 
the stuff I ate would have had the fake cheese in a can
 
Just hearing of enchilda
 
that stuff is oddly good
CHEEZ WHIZ FTW
 
I hate cheese. I just tolerate it.
Too much cheese is disgusting
 
Cheese is one of the Three Perfect Foods
 
7:53 PM
What is one?
Name them
 
Chocolate, cheese, bacon
 
:O
Foods
 
wat
Foods is a word
 
Ok I get bacon.. but Chocolate, cheese?
 
plural of food
@LewsTherin There is a comma
 
7:55 PM
I don't count chocolate as food
Bread on the other hand
Number 1 on the list.
 
of course chocolate is food. what do you use it for, lubricant?
 
bread is filler tier
 
Toast + Nutella... yummy
@KendallFrey Lubricant?? Mmn actually sort of
@Shoe EXACTLY
 
Nutella + Nutella you mean
 
THAT IS WHY IT IS SO AWESOME
 
7:57 PM
Bread has no influence there
 
When you can't cook, pop the bread into the toaster
Lubricate toast with nutella
 
@KendallFrey I'm not talking cheese whiz. I'm talking industrial grade cheese. Like the nacho cheese you get at taco bell that they aren't allowed to actually call cheese
 
"cheese product"?
(never actually had Taco Bell)
 
Government cheese?
 
looks more like dyed sour cream than cheese
 
8:07 PM
Eww looks like poo
Is it me or is The Walking Dead getting worse and worse
 
need some corn chips now
 
After the mid season it all turned to s**t
 
what is a good name for when the code smells of strings?
 
@JohanLarsson stringly typed code
 
yeah that is one +1
 
8:11 PM
<jealousy>He didn't come up with that.</jealousy>
 
Has anyone in here used RFC2898DerrivedBytes?
 
@KendallFrey of course I didn't. lol
 
no it is a classic
I was looking for something new & witty
 
hmm
mozzarella code?
</lame>
!!doge stringy
 
   wow
very stringy
 
8:13 PM
!!doge string, turd, odor
 
     wow
so string turd
       wow
                        such string
so  turd
 
lol
 
           wow
             such string
                           much  turd
so  odor
 
if i hold a reference to an object A that has a property B whose type implements propertychanged, and from the code encapsulating A I hook the property changed on B, will that be cleaned up properly if A reassigns to B
 
no
you will have to reassign the event handler
 
8:22 PM
right
i'll be hooking the propertychanged of A as well
 
That's the place to change it
 
but the old event on B isn't leaked or anything?
i think i'm thinking too hard about this.
 
thanks
 
@LewsTherin Smell doesn't bother me - I just don't like nutella, but that's mostly because I'm allergic to hazelnuts :p
 
8:31 PM
it's not every day I manage to break SQL Profiler
 
8:44 PM
!!doge wat
 
      wow
so wat
 
Haha, I had to try it out
 
Can I have you guys look at an implementation and tell me if this is correct or wrong way to do encryption.
 
@JohanLarsson doing a lot of purging magic strings from code lately
 
@TomW yeah, flush 'em like turds
 
8:47 PM
        public void Encrypt(string user, string password)
        {
            byte[] salt = Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes(BCrypt.Net.BCrypt.GenerateSalt(10000));
            using(RNGCryptoServiceProvider cryptography = new RNGCryptoServiceProvider())
                cryptography.GetBytes(salt);

            Rfc2898DeriveBytes key = new Rfc2898DeriveBytes(@"0618330667678916107", salt, 10000);

            TripleDES algorithm = TripleDES.Create();
            algorithm.Key = key.GetBytes(512);
            using(MemoryStream stream = new MemoryStream())
Would that be the proper way? I want the User and Password to both be encrypted and hidden; but be able to decrypt and get those values after encrypted.
 
What are your guys' favourite profiling tools?
 
dotTrace is nice but expensive
VS profiler is ok, nice thing is that you can profile unit tests
 
yea, i've used dotTrace. Only one that still works on .NET 2.0
 
Anyone?
 
Sorry Greg, never done it that way. I've always encrypted with SSL
But it seems right, does it work?
 
8:52 PM
@RyanTernier It does work, but I wasn't sure if that is proper. I know I'm using a hard coded password thus difficulty in that sense. Then the content is being stored in a database encrypted, completely separate.
 
Usually when passwords are stored in the database for applications, they are hashed, not encrypted
hashing makes it almost impossible to un-hash
Encryption will always allow someone to decrypt the values
 
@RyanTernier Yeah, I know. Except the password needs to be decrypted at runtime; once it is hashed it has to be entered then tested to see if it matches. My users don't put the password in again and I don't want to store it as a cookie variable.
 
So your user doesn't want to enter the password, just their username?
 
@RyanTernier Well, I need the username and password to automate by going to a web-site, logging in, going to an account page, scrubbing data, and posting it back into my application.
 
@RyanTernier VS, ANTs, and AqTime (only because it handles native too)
 
8:55 PM
@RyanTernier Well, the Username and Password are for another site entirely.
So I want to encrypt them.
 
Hey @ReedCopsey. Tried AqTime, but I can't try it out on my app as I need to profile more than 3 DDL's in 1 go :P
 
@Greg I'm not sure I've grasped what you're trying to do, but it looks a lot like hand-rolling, which is just asking for crippling security bugs
 
@RyanTernier Paid version should work, though
if you contact their sales, they'd probably give you a short term "real" version
I actually don't love it - except that it handles mixed native+managed
 
It should, but I'll never buy something without the ability to fully test it on what I want to use it on. I've sent a letter to their sales team asking for a week trial
 
and it does have sampling+tracing, which can be useful sometimes
the UI is crap, though :p
 
8:56 PM
dotTrace works well with 2.0. I found Ants didn't work that well for 2.0 web services
 
never tried with web services ;)
 
I hate 'free trials'
 
Yea, my app is just web services. No UI, nothing. Send XML in, see XML out.
 
@TomW @RyanTernier All I'm trying to do:

Store username and password in a database, if the database is breached it is encrypted for those two values (They're for their core business). Then I essentially in my application pull those stored values, decrypt them, then use them. If the user changes them, it simply updates in the database.
 
I typically make a simple console app to profile the portions of code that are critical, anyways
so the xml transform code, for example - I'd make an app that does nothing but a conversion of a reasonable sample
and profile just that app - I find that tends to be much better than profiling the app as a whole most of the time anyways
 
8:57 PM
why an app and not a ~test~?
 
@RyanTernier @TomW The problem is, once there hashed they'd have to enter them again to pull that data. I'm trying to automate essentially.
 
@Greg That's a simple reason. I've never done these things without SSL, so I'd have to spend some time thinking about it. How we work with this is every site has public SSL keys that can encrypt data. When the data is sent to the parent site, they can decrypt using the private key
 
@RyanTernier We don't have an SSL for this domain though, so I can't use it :(
 
@ReedCopsey I agree, problem is this code is so.... how do I say it without hurting the feeling of the original developer... fricken so tightly coupled Jon Sceet would cry looking at it, I have to do it all at once :(
 
My company didn't want to spend the money on the wildcard SSL they'd have to purchase.
 
8:59 PM
@Greg how are you transmitting username and password to the web app?
 

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