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5:23 AM
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Q: How to deconstruct a pumpkin

DorreneIn a fit of pumpkin-bread-craving I bought a pumpkin (labelled "for cooking" instead of "show"), only to realize I have no idea what to do with it. I already plan on scraping the seeds out and roasting them, but how can I convert the vegetable in front of me into something like canned pumpkin for...

 
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Suggestion: Appropriately position badge circles in user oneboxes (they're much higher than they appear in the SO topbar)
 
@YiJiang Tried that initially; it looked pretty crap on some browsers. OK, IE.
 
@MarcGravell, sounds like a good reason to implement it then (:
 
there's always one, isn't there...
 
5:40 AM
/swithc tav
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@rchern You might need to add command-completion too ;P
 
hehe
 
 
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6:56 AM
@MarcGravell Question: Is loading older messages synchronous? Because Firefox always hangs until loading is complete
 
@YiJiang I think it might be stalling adding all that content to the DOM, but that's just speculation.
(it seems alright for a brief moment after clicking the button, but after that there's a period of lag)
 
@TimStone Well, it hangs with such precision on my computer that I'm starting to feel suspicious
 
@MarcGravell seeing 503 errors again.
(and /events returning the error page)
 
7:17 AM
I was deploying. I expect it was that. Still happening?
 
will keep a lookout
 
Note I've deployed a few times this morning, in case you've seen it a couple of times
 
seems to be the culprit. didn't mention it right away since i figured it was temporary and it did seem to be
 
> seems to be the culprit
(wondering if you mean "Marc" or "the 503")
 
ohhh is this a /blame @MarcGravell opportunity? you know how i love those. (;
i meant a few deployments. it seemed temporary a couple different times
chat is much nicer with keyboard shortcuts / commands ^__^ hehe
 
7:34 AM
you'll have to let me know your list of current bindings... just in case we might be "inspired" by them. Not copied... "inspired"
deploying now, in fact; so any 503 is /blame @Marc
Unless the entire site collapses, in which case /blame @someone-else-I-wasnt-here-didnt-touch-it-honest-guv
 
hehe
@MarcGravell, let's see, right now i've got: starring, quoting, switching rooms, opening the transcript, loading the last page of messages, /me being turned into italics, add/remove/list highlights, scrolling to the last message by a user, listing rooms (not just ones you're already in), joining a room you aren't in, editing a message, (about to add deleting), and leaving a room
 
I've got keyboard navigation working too, now with scrolling, heh.
 
yeah, i still need to add that in hehe
i got @YiJiang's local storage for the highlights in
 
@rchern If you're willing to share this list you clearly don't remember what happened with StackFlair
 
HAHAHAHA
 
 
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9:21 AM
(re)feature request. If I do an implicit reply - starting with @somebody. Then I click on the explicit reply button for a message from the same somebody: remove the @somebody before prepending the post#. Oh, and please please let me post post# with a , after it :)
 
 
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10:38 AM
@Benjol re the last... why? out of curiosity?
@Benjol re the first; it gets messy if you are replying to Marc and talking about @Marcus - perhaps this is an edge-case that is better handled manually? i.e. by not talking to @Marc then clicking on a reply to @Marc (if you see what I mean)
 
11:17 AM
@MarcGravell, sorry, only just saw your questions: (yoohoo for the multicollider wotsit dooflah)
Re the last, see the post I just sent, it has @MarcGravell,
I can't do that with an explicit reply. It bugs me
 
@Benjol , why not?
 
@MarcGravell, if you put a comma after the #:, the regexp doesn't like it (I suppose)
:12146, like this
 
we could special case it I guess, but ultimately it works "as is"; or just live with a space...
 
Well if you do special case it, you can name the commit after me :) Apparently I'm the only one who cares
And re the first, what generally happens is I start replying, maybe send it, then see that you've said something else in between, so I arrow up, click the reply button on the message I was originally replying to, then have to fiddle around to not have two @'s
This is nitpicking, but that's what comes from spending too much time here, so I guess you can call it a downside of having done such a good job. If we're getting down to that level of detail, the rest is clearly swinging.
 
11:55 AM
Hello all. Wonder if anyone can help... I'm trying to get "oracle" tagged questions to appear in an Oracle chat (chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/19/oracle) - I've added what looks like the correct feeds but SO questions don't appear when posted. Any ideas?
 
looking now
They need to be rss/atom feeds; I'll dig out the URL.
And the UI could be clearer. I'll fix that.
http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag/oracle
(I'll add)
 
That's great. Thanks for your help.
 
Note: if the feed is fairly active, you may find that having that inside chat is disruptive. If so, you can change it to be a "ticker" - it'll still appear, just not as chat messages.
So it won't disrupt everything ;p
 
Ok - will leave it as-is for now and if too active will switch to ticker. Thanks again.
 
@Marc - excellent work since I last checked in on this, looking great
 
12:10 PM
@Nick - glad to please; any highlights in particular?
 
the notifications (circle on the avatar) and the global inbox are very, very handy
love all the UI polishes though, haven't dug that far into the client code yet :)
 
@marc
 
@balpha made a cute tweak earlier - using localstorage to cache your current (unsent) message so we don't need to disrupt the user by asking it it is OK to leave
@brainless
 
ah nice, I had an idea for HTML5 history push that chat could use but I can't think of it now...and only webkit people would get the benefit atm anyway, if I remember again I'll toss it on meta
 
@MarcGravell: "StackOverflow" is a remarkable achievement in the world of computing. the way it functions is absolutely genuine! congrats!!!
 
12:17 PM
I didn't have much (if at all) to do with the build for StackOverflow to be honest (although I do occasionally provide an answer or two); I'm just "the chat guy" (or at least; half of the chat team)
 
@Marc - one thing - the ticker thing - shows even if you ignore the user
 
does it? I'll look at that
 
I've been logged in a few hours, should I refresh?
 
(checks revision log)
I don't think you'd notice anything. Most of my effort today is looking at consolidated-chat for the fledgeling SE sites. So they don't feel too lonely.
 
ah gotcha
 
12:20 PM
But you can have fun playing "guess the domain name for consolidated chat" if you like.
 
@MarcGravell: you are "Stack Overflow Valued Associate #00006"!!! that's great!!
 
I like it ;p
 
@MarcGravell and also i read your blog regularly. pretty impressive!
 
(has the decency to look modest and embarrassed)
Actually - that reminds me - @Nick - do you blog? Since you seem to be regularly thrashing me and Jon, I'm guessing you have plenty of thoughts to share/spare...
(shakes head; you nearly doubled me last week - and last month)
@Benjol @Benjol - looking at the code as it stands that would be a bit more painful to implement that I'd like, since much of that data is ripped out very early. It might be possible later, but I'm not making that change "now" so to speak.
 
@Marc - nope, I'm pretty handy at problem solving/improving but could never think of anything to blog about :)
 
12:30 PM
@MarcGravell, no worries, I just wanted to make sure it was (still) on your radar. [Goes off to start guessing domain names, where's rchern? :)]
 
I could atm, this Oracle -> SQL Server move is a fun exercise, but most of the time my mind draws a blank
 
not stackchat, not stackcentral, not chatexchange
stacktalk? hm, maybe not
chat.stackexchange.com. boring. Now do I have to start guessing the password for the non-existent beta? :)
 
Oh I wish MVC provided static compile checking against the views (with just standard build); I'm bored of breaking things...
@marcgravell http://stackoverflow.com/questions/383192/compile-views-in-asp-net-mvc :)
Thanks @Nick ;p
(btw, for a while there the main lobby was broken for mobiles)
 
welcome :) same question solved my frustration a while back when I started doing MVC daily as well
Have you looked at razor at all?
 
12:51 PM
@NickCraver fixed now
 
looks great, thanks!
@Marc - spoke too soon, seeing the ticker again
I don't see the ticket in the user list to ignore anymore though (it was a feed previously, maybe that's the only reason it was there?)
 
 
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5:35 PM
@Nick: Why am I seeing a "messages flagged as spam" counter on my avatar? Shouldn't I be at least moderator or something to see those?
 
@Tomalak 10k, same as the regular site
 
OIC. How do I get rid of them? :)
 
You can't. Same as the regular site :)
 
hmpf
 
If you agree you can vote that it's spam/offensive as well, and it'll get killed at six votes (same as... well, you get it)
 
5:40 PM
Yeah. Maybe it's a good thing, I'll get used to seeing a blue notification all the time. :-)
 
6:11 PM
Yeah that should be an option
it's too easy to flag, and with the user volume growing you're pretty much guaranteed to have a count down there 100% of the time...best to move it elsewhere IMO.
 
sounds like a band-aid not a solution
if people are flagging things that shouldn't be then fix that first?
 
well they should be flagged, the problem is there are always flags
unlike SO, the count is in your face and attention grabbing 24/7
I have to go to stackoverflow.com/tools in SO to see them
 
@NickCraver Speak for yourself :)
 
hehe i have a userscript courtesy of some.....never mind
 
user script?
 
6:14 PM
Yeah. It should probably be an option though
 
what is being flagged in chat?
 
sorry I didn't phrase that correctly, if I want to see them...then I go there, usually I don't want to see them, it just seems very out of place next to a "hey there's something **for you**" right here indicator
in Python, 3 hours ago, by user343934
do u have anything to say about my problem?
That's the only flag at the moment
 
Be happy you're not a mod, they have a third circle for mod flags
 
why would that be flagged? |:
 
I don't try and analyze user behavior, there's not enough time in the world for that
 
6:17 PM
hehehehe
 
@rchern I say that for about half of all SO flags
 
@Michael - does that script make a request every page load, or use local storage?
 
request per
 
I'm not nearly clever enough for local storage
 
alrighty, may grab that and make it use local storage in chrome, request every 5 min maybe?
the delay and flicker on every page drives me bonkers with per-page requests scripts, current rep today would be another nice one I need to port over
 
6:19 PM
Sounds sane. My scripts tend to not be particularly fast
I have one for Unix.SE that shows the last activity of all mods, which requires like 20 page loads. It's...not fast
 
@Michael - it's not you really, it was blocking ads on SO delaying document.ready but mr dalgas fixed that
so that part's better, but may as well be instant
was a universal problem with .ready activated userscripts
 
ouch
 
...and for that matter, SO scripts themselves
 
 
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7:58 PM
@Marc - you see the earlier message that the ticker ignoring?
 
8:52 PM
@Nick - I see it. Will look some more tomorrow.
It is possible that it isn't broadcasting the user-id. In fact, that seems the most likely explanation.
In which case, I'll fix that ;p
 
@Marc - I'm not exactly sure how you'd ignore it through the interface, am I missing a menu somewhere?
I ignored it before because it was a feed, but maybe that was a different user?
 

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