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10:00 PM
@Borgleader Perhaps. But I'd need to read up to confirm/deny. So - I won't
 
@ScottW Tell me what? He sent me nude pictures???
 
@ScottW I don't fist
 
@ScottW I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NUDES I SENT YOU THAT TIME
 
@sehe moths and lobsters? now that reference is lost on me...
 
baby, you're confusing you cheating on another, with me cheating with another
 
10:00 PM
@sehe and yah, TopCoder came up around the same time, too
 
You gotta keep track of this shit
if you're going to cheat, do IT PROPERLY
 
@Code-Guru Too bad. I'll leave it that way for now. By the way, can I have my eyes back now?
 
IT is terrible
 
@ScottW Yes. Its fucking terrible.
 
10:02 PM
@Code-Guru That's the s[h]it[e].
 
user1804599
I’m becoming a bank manager.
 
Good idea
fuck software, makes my head hurt everyday
 
@TonyTheLion It's not an idea. It's a gruesome self-observation
 
user1804599
I’m good at managing banks.
 
10:03 PM
 
Banks of memory.
Banks of rivers (I keep them very very stable)
 
Jul 3 at 19:08, by not-sehe
@Borgleader Aha. The PE infatuation should have given him away. Anyways, the Haskell put me off track
 
Java has ruined the keyword new forever, for every language.
 
Java has ruined the software industry
oh yea, and software has too
 
@sehe p.s. TopCoder does just as much .NET as it does Java.
 
10:05 PM
@Code-Guru Ah! The @Borgleader was right on my tail :/
 
take the software away, all problems solved
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel You mean this one.
 
@ScottW <3
We are meant to be together
 
@Code-Guru No it doesn't. Unless you mean you can run that vicious bit of UI on IKVM (dont-make-me-laugh)
 
@ScottW Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
 
10:06 PM
@not-rightfold Oh, right, standard issue double bass drum dullery.
 
@ScottW yes, and lets go to better places
 
user1804599
The more the better.
 
@ScottW yes you are
 
@sehe I mean that you can submit C# code for any of the algorithm competitions (or C++ even) and the component library has both .NET as well as Java versions of most libraries.
 
We're all fucked.
The church of Lounge<C++> hereby declares you mutt and overgrown-cat
 
10:08 PM
married
thanks!
Let's go baby!
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Married in Belgium. [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-questions]
 
@Code-Guru Duh. That's ... obvious (do I look like I'm going to submit Java? FWIW I tried it back then, wasn't too charmed, so I forgot all about it. Of course I used Vim + copy/past + C++)
 
@sehe I'd love to see you code some Java ;-)
 
Oh hey, Singleton Factories really do exist in Java. So it isn't just a joke. Shit is real!
 
@Code-Guru never gna happen
 
@Mysticial Its Java, did you expect anything else?
 
10:13 PM
@ScottW is it a red bean?
 
Will we get polymorphic lambda with terse syntax in C++14? auto z = ([](x) x*x)(5);
 
lambda porn is the best kind
of porn
 
@Code-Guru I can send you some 20kLoC (estimate from memory) projects if you really want. I wrote those of my own free will. And I loved using Eclipse.
 
@ScottW What did you think? That we are a bunch of madmen making up bad things about Java?
 
Anything else in the self-incriminating department?
 
10:14 PM
@EvgenyPanasyuk Hm, not bad. I like it.
 
@TonyTheLion damn, google image search shows weird stuff for "lambda porn"
 
Why would you Google that?
Jeezus
 
@GamesBrainiac Not likely in the future, no. However, my new job entails replacing a Java/.NET system so... I will probably see some Java once. (We're doing green-field, none-the-less)
 
@sehe nice!
 
@Rapptz It was in proposal, but I am not sure if Terse part will be accepted.
 
10:15 PM
@StackedCrooked well, we are a little mad
more than a little even
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk I like it. Even if it was [](x) { x * x } I'd be okay with it.
 
@Code-Guru Lemme find something more juicy:
in Java, Feb 8 at 23:09, by sehe
Neutral to defensive of Java:

http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=3768210#3768210
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=6707614#6707614
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/3560575#3560575
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=3059494#3059494
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/2755718#2755718
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=3620854#3620854
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=7259622#7259622
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=2301336#2301336
@TonyTheLion See what I mean about the googling-till-I-die mantra ^ ?
 
@sehe I have become fond of Eclipse myself
 
Hahah
 
I'm not so sure it's still the best, but back in the day, it certainly was way up there with the best (especially in the refactoring game)
@TonyTheLion I resent that it's practically impossible to tell whether that's Feb 8 2011 or 2012. I'm going to assume 2012
 
10:20 PM
I use it for my Android app. Definitely better than NetBeans. I haven't really used any other Java IDEs yet, though.
 
@sehe Didn't know you hang out in the Java room
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk Yeah leaving out auto might be for the best.
 
@TonyTheLion I don't. This episode had everything to do with our pathetic friend "user1690130". I still have his nick memorized. That's bad
 
so, what's with the 'not-' prefixes on names in here?
 
10:24 PM
Not-hing
 
 
@Mysticial OMG: Class AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean: "Convenient proxy factory bean superclass for proxy factory beans that create only singletons."
 
@Mysticial God damn man.
 
@Mike seen it
 
hey
 
10:25 PM
ho
everybody stand clear for defibrillation... one... two... go !
Nah. It's dead. Scott, you killed the room.
 
user1804599
Yay I’m done.
 
user1804599
@Mike repost.
 
Scott is vier Russen
@MohammadAliBaydoun FTFY
 
10:30 PM
Yes, you did ;_;. Malice is better ;_;
 
@ScottW you said you preferred keyboard input?
 
I'm curious how that makes a question "?".
 
Hm?
 
user1804599
Hm!
 
Hm¡
Hm¿
 
user1804599
10:34 PM
I should stop using complete sentences as passwords.
 
user1804599
I’m used to ’, but my passwords use '.
 
user1804599
:(
 
You should just stop elliding syllables in your password phrases, you lazy fool
 
user1804599
I use ' because I have no idea how to type ’ on Windows.
 
user1804599
@sehe “she’s” is so much nicer than “she is”
 
10:35 PM
SECURITY BREACH: PARTIAL PASSWORD DISCLOSURE DETECTED
 
@sehe RЯNИ
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk You're cheating, you are Russian (or at least have Russion keymapping available)
 
user1804599
@sehe It’s like one twelveth of one of my many passwords. :V
 
@not-rightfold Still, I now know that. Worse, you just gave me a raw estimate on the remaining length
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk ahaha
 
user406009
10:37 PM
@sehe What are you talking about? All I see is ****** </sarcasm>
 
user1804599
@sehe Still, it has zero impact
 
user1804599
You don’t know where in the password it occurs and you don’t know the other characters.
 
@Lalaland You're a bad Nimrod7
 
user1804599
@sehe It was a huge exaggeration.
 
<scarecasm/>
<scoregasm/>
 
10:38 PM
@Mysticial Try to read it slowly: Convenient. Proxy. Factory. Bean. Superclass. For. Proxy. Factory. Beans. That. Create. Only. Singletons. And then read it fast!
 
user1804599
<orgasm/>
 
<smørgåsm/>
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk fuck
 
user1804599
ok is a common atom in Erlang.
 
user1804599
It usually indicates success.
 
10:40 PM
I'm enthralled
 
user1804599
1> io:format("Hello, world!~n").
Hello, world!
ok
 
user1804599
@ScottW Urlang
 
@ScottW lol
 
@not-rightfold Ok. Oh, I see, ok: Erlangs REPL was secretly authored by Sean Parent. Ok?
 
user1804599
@ScottW My colleague calls Python “Slang.”
 
10:41 PM
@ScottW "move left"
 
user1804599
@sehe dat pun
 
I liked the Erlang movie.
Those guys were like real movie stars.
 
user1804599
lel Erlang: The Movie is hilarious.
 
user1804599
I love how they compare C to Erlang in terms of conciseness.
 
Here is a C program (2000 loc), and here is an equivalent Erlang program (5 loc).
 
user1804599
10:42 PM
That’s not how it went.
 
Sep 4 at 18:23, by sehe
I hate how the guy (Sean) constantly mutters "Okay...".... "okay?" .... "Okay!?" ... "... okay"
Seems extremely manipulative. He wants me to agree at every half sentence.
 
That's exactly how it went.
 
user1804599
> Here is a program in C.
> And here is the equivalent program in Erlang.
 
@ScottW I see. Cross-platform?
 
user1804599
@sehe ok
 
10:43 PM
Since that talk, though, I can't find any fault with the Guy's presenting (other than ridiculous speed claims based on # of slides)
@not-rightfold har har
 
Apparently I don't know how to poll WinAPI messages :D
 
Message loops
 
@sehe It seems to me he has been diving too deep into his studies and it's affecting his ability to act normal.
 
Well, I had GetMessage... but nothing ever came.
 
He was much different in his 2010 talk.
 
user1804599
10:44 PM
receive
    Message -> io:format("~p~n", [Message])
end
 
Why do Russians use a single parenthesis to represent a smile?
 
Perhaps I should actually read what MSDN says.
 
user1804599
@Pawnguy7 Probably like this!
 
@Pawnguy7 lol common problem
 
@StackedCrooked Nah. It's just a (probabyl very good) communicative habit. That didn't work to well for me in his presentation for a large audience. I can totally see how that would work very well in a small setting
@Pawnguy7 I have a letterbox. In the Attic. Nothing ever came.
 
10:45 PM
Is Phoenix and Spirit made by the same person?
 
@Rapptz Persons, yes. I think it's Hartmut for Spirit core and Joel de Guzman for Phoenix. And Phoenix was named after Hartmut's daughter, I think?
 
Well, TIL I guess. Kinda behind.
 
user1804599
Scientific evidence shows that nothing can be proved by anything
 
Might be mixing up the names. Also, obviously loads of other people involved on Spirit (a Thomas [Something] that I keep forgetting about. There's bound to be a credits roll somewhere)
 
user1804599
Spirit somehow manage to make me nervous.
 
10:47 PM
Holy Spirit Moves You
@not-rightfold Not even grammar
 
user1804599
@sehe The holy spirit is as nonexistent as my love for your wife.
 
user1804599
Which is quite nonexistent.
 
@not-rightfold Try not imbibing so much of it.
 
@not-rightfold You don't know that. You're not in touch with the holistic worlds around you yet
 
user1804599
@ScottW Seems like Herb Sutter is Russian.
 
10:48 PM
@not-rightfold He's with the KGB
 
user1804599
@sehe How can I possibly love somebody I have never met, let alone seen?
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Quite relevant to the message before your silly edit.
 
His accent does not sound like Russian one:
 
10:51 PM
> "The Holistic Love Theory reconciles sex, romantic love and spiritual love into one comprehensive evolutionary model showing how one form of love naturally flows into the next"
 
user1804599
Love is nonexistent in my life.
 
mathematics is just applied computer science
 
user1804599
Mathematics is non-applied Haskell.
 
@Mike wut. I think you're upside down
 
I have never quite gotten that.
 
user1804599
10:56 PM
 
Probably why I struggled with Haskell :D
Hrm.
I thought it had two ll's, but spellcheck lied to me.
 
@ScottW found this quite apt gif just now chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/12579567#12579567
@not-rightfold Never seen it before
 
user1804599
 
@Pawnguy7 Spellcheck was just used by an intruder to determine that you're gullible
 
user1804599
The sound is great.
 
user1804599
11:04 PM
I want to die as a virgin.
 
user1804599
I better not get raped.
 
user1804599
PS2 and GameCube ftw.
 
DREAMCAST
 
user1804599
And SNES, because Donkey Cock Country.
 
11:05 PM
^ Youtube commenters are all hating the vocals.
I don't think it's so bad.
 
user1804599
Oh good god those vocals are horrible.
 
user1804599
I’m somehow listening to a song called SUPER DUPER GALAXY.
 
user1804599
It’s also quite horrible.
 
user1804599
Everything is so horrible.
 
user1804599
Why is life so terrible?
 
11:09 PM
 
@not-rightfold I like how you finally figured out a rational reason for not wanting to get raped
 
user1804599
Finally?
 
user1804599
I can’t reason about all this anymore.
 
user1804599
I think I’m gonna hook up some slut.
 
user1804599
But I’m a programmer and shy. :(
 
user1804599
11:13 PM
Whores are such whores.
 
user1804599
“Whores” is pronounced the same way as “horse,” now I think of it. :v
 
user1804599
@ScottW A stallion or a mare?
 
God damn it. I hate it when one library uses a terrible design because one of its dependencies uses a terrible design :V
 
user1804599
@ScottW lol
 
user1804599
hoeren
 
user1804599
11:14 PM
Oh god.
 
user1804599
I’m having a conversation with a non-mother female for the first time since a few months.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun what is the name of this abomination?
 
@Pawnguy7 I'm still referring to LTBL
 
So the terrible design up the chain is SFML? :D
 
11:15 PM
I'm getting closer and closer to having my own system. Yesterday, I got my quad-tree working wonderfully
Yes
 
user1804599
All design is broken by design.
 
user1804599
@ScottW Talking about how terrible Hogeschool Rotterdam is. :V
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun That is good. Although, what collides in a tile-based game like that?
 
I want to write nice code :<
 
11:17 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I think so. They were probably trolling the crowd.
 
If I use the current version of LTBL, I won't be able to maintain my code nicely.
 
user1804599
I’m so fucking happy.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun I do too. :<
 
@not-rightfold Anytime!
 
@not-rightfold Ask her if she cooks!
 
11:18 PM
@not-rightfold Drunk?
 
Nice code is fine, but of what use is a nice HTTP client if the program does not use HTTP?
 
user1804599
@MohammadAliBaydoun I would be surprised if she does.
 
My program does use lighting :v
 
user1804599
She looks like she plays video games all day non-stop.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Ah. And this uses the quadtree?
 
11:19 PM
@not-rightfold Oh, you found a chick. That so cute :)
 
user1804599
Eh, well, I know her from college. :v
 
Yeah. We put lights and convex hulls in quad trees
@not-rightfold How old are you exactly? :x
 
user1804599
@MohammadAliBaydoun 18 years and a shitload of days.
 
I was just about to say what Scott said ;_;
 
user1804599
I’m born on the 23th of December in 1994.
 
11:21 PM
@ScottW Right to the point, hm? :D
 
When did you start college and when did you finish?
rightfold
 
user1804599
@MohammadAliBaydoun It started the 3rd of September in 2012.
 
Ell
Hi guise
 
user1804599
And it last until somewhere July 2013 or something.
 
@Ell Hey.
 
Ell
11:22 PM
I dun drank slme
 
You're drunk?
 
Ell
Not drunk, just tsy
 
@Jefffrey maybe
 
Maybe it's the difference between the terms 'college' and 'university' that's confusing me here.
 
Ell
Tipsy. Its wearing off mind
 
11:23 PM
We use them interchangeably here because locally, it doesn't matter
 
@sehe Can't stop listening.
 
Hello Mikhail ;_;
 
@Jefffrey The official single is a lot better, really. But this rather raw version is cute already
 
user1804599
pok
 
user1804599
Aug 2 at 13:44, by Cat Plus Plus
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Legnica is a city, not a name, you dummies. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [goobye-zoidnok] [no-helpdesk]
 
user1804599
11:31 PM
> goobye
 
gooby plz
 
lol, "template magic".
 
user1804599
Template metaprogramming is black magic.
 
Nigger magic
 
user1804599
lololol
 
11:37 PM
I don't know what to do...
 
I'm not sure if std::unique_ptr<boost::variant<X, Y>> is valid.
 
user1804599
@Pawnguy7 Talk to girls.
 
Eh, pass.
 
Talk to boys then.
 
user1804599
@Pawnguy7 Do it anyway.
 
11:38 PM
That would require talking. And girls.
 
TIL Using cmd+r in the answer's textarea will create a line. (<hr>).
 
@ScarletAmaranth welcome back! I recently answered your type of question. Twice, I think. Lemme find the link
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A: C++ generating an interface without virtual functions?

seheYou can use free functions to model the drawable aspect of your objects: #include <iostream> class Image { }; class Sprite { }; class Model3D { }; namespace draw_aspect { void draw(Image const& image) { std::cout << "drawing image\n"; } void draw(Sprite const& sprite) { std::c...

 
@sehe wow, I've already voted that up even though I don't remember it.
 
@Jefffrey I think your question was the more recent. Actually. It could be I'm mixing you up with another lounger now
 
My question?
 
11:45 PM
Probably someone else. Still looking for it :/
 
Is std::variant gonna be in C++14?
 
user1804599
Broken on my machine!
 
@not-rightfold what is?
@MohammadAliBaydoun I think he knows
 
Xeo
Wheee, asdfmovie 7
@Jefffrey no proposal for it
 
11:49 PM
I'm disappointed.
 
Xeo
Who needs variant anyways when you got unions!
3
 
user1804599
@sehe the user.
 
user1804599
PEBKAC
 
@Jefffrey Yup, your question:
Oct 15 at 23:24, by Jefffrey
@Xeo Unionists!
 
@sehe Oh that's why.
 
11:51 PM
@Jefffrey Yup, that's why
 
user1804599
> Historical use (circa 1995) includes phone tech support personnel instructing the user/customer to place the line "id=10t" in their CONFIG.SYS file as a warning to future tech support personnel.
 
user1804599
This would actually be quite awesome.
 
union soviet {};
 
@Xeo std::variant<int, double> x; is much better than union y { int xx; double xy; } x;
 
@Jefffrey + tag in union case
 
11:54 PM
std::variant<std::variant<int, double>, std::variant<char, bool>>
I'd love to see someone come up with a use-case for this
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
my friend lost a game of reversi from his own AI.
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk wat
 
@not-rightfold Is he any good at reversi?
 
@Jefffrey boost::variant has type tag inside - it is basicaly tagged union
 
user1804599
11:56 PM
Probably not. XD
 
even so, AI is a fairly simple game, computationally, isn't it?
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Q: Absolute beginner in programming - Would really like some advice

Jim Jamso as you can see, am a complete and utter beginner in programming. It's like I just started to learn a bike yet i have never touched or even seen one before. I've done some research into the different types of languages, and I've got some very basic terminology. From what I can tell, there webs...

 
My friend recently made an unbeatable Connect-4 AI. Well, it was supposed to be unbeatable at least :x. He beat it after a couple of days of trying. :<
 
user1804599
I want to write an AI for The Game.
 
user1804599
It will never lose.
 
user1804599
while (true);
 

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