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Q: An online version control that does not require PhD thesis

jitendra gargI want to use an online version control tool for my new project, as affording an always online server is a pain in India. Anyway, I have already installed github, and boy, is it pretentiously difficult. I am still unable to figure out how to create a simple repository, and then clone it in my s...

 
You don't need a PhD in computer science to use git ... Please follow that link (their videos are short and very well done!), they have many good material, and in half an hour you'll be able to use git... However, a PhD in computer science is indeed helpful in any developer's work... Yes, coding is hard... And the idea that every one can write good code is an illusion.
 
I used the github application to commit and then sync the changes. Also, there is only one branch right now, as it is initial setup for a new project. @Basile Not literal PhD obviously. Anyway, I guess i.imgur.com/S7afKmS.png this is definitely not intuitive for me. "If I have done this before", then I can do quick setup. But if I haven't, then I need a freaking shell to set it up. Sorry, but that's just not a good design. Isn't design supposed to be easy, instead of requiring reading 100 page document just to get started? Also, what the hell is this "coding is hard" bs?
 
Look at the videos. They are really good and short to watch. And use git on the command line, not thru some web interface (in particular, don't commit or push code thru github's web pages)
 
@BasileStarynkevitch Do you think if anyone can't understand a software, he is a 12 year old? "Every one can write good code is an illusion"? Really? Is this the time where we both act like pretentious jerks? If you think question is too much of a rant, suggest an edit. No point acting like this, because that comes across as douchiest behaviour.
 
I just believe that each of us have our own skills (and deficiencies), and that specialization of human skills and abilities is a fact. Buit I insist, to use git watch the videos, they are awesome!!! Then use git on the command line.
 
8:34 AM
I don't want command line. I want a UI like the github application. I want an application that lets me create a repository, and share the url with team. I want a simple tool. Maybe if I was a build engineer, github might be good. Currently it isn't.
 
Then don't use git (or IMHO, any other version control systems). VCS and DVCS are focused for developers (mostly) and should be used on the command line. (It is the same for compilers, IMHO).
 
Dude, what the hell?
ankhsvn.open.collab.net/ankhsvn/screenshots this is the type of tool I want. Not this. imgur.com/S7afKmS
 
You are asking about VCS. I pointed out that the videos about git are awesome.
If you want to use ankhsvn please do use it.
 
I am a developer too. And if not to use the version control tool, then what? How do you want me to collaborate with my team.
 
Nobody (and certainly not me) is forcing you ro use git
 
8:36 AM
That's offline.
 
I am able to look at the first video on git-scm.com/video/what-is-version-control
 
I mentioned in the question, in first line, I want to move it to an online server. Some place, where I can pay a monthly fee, instead of having to keep a server locally.
 
Or simply the first chapter of the book git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Getting-Started-About-Version-Control
So you want to rent a VCS space?
I think that github is selling that.
Or you could rent a Linux VPS and set up a git server on it.
 
I know they are. That's why I am trying to use that dumb application.
 
Don't forget to backup.
 
8:39 AM
If I want console level control, then I will use git server.
 
And most other VCS systems (either centralized like svn, or distributed like git or bzr) have some companies selling services on them.
 
I want a UI just like VSS or SVN, just not locally.
 
You are free to use an UI. git has several of them (that it, GUI wrappers around basic git features)
 
That's what I want to know. Which one?
github is not a good UI. and no, I am not asking my devs to use command line.
 
I don't know them, but I heard of several UI interfaces to git, e.g. tkgit and qgit
 
8:42 AM
Cool. Give me a minute. Let me check tkgit.
 
But this is a different question, you should have asked what are the graphical user interfaces to git
 
It is not. I want any version control tool. It doesn't have to be git.
 
Never the less, before using any GUI for git you really should watch the video and/or read the book. And that is not peculiar to git; if using svn or bzr it is the same.
 
SVN works. TFS works. Anything works.
I did.
I watched the get going video. Guess what, not helpful at all.
 
In particular because the concepts and the terminology of VCS are slightly different. What "committing" means in git is not (exactly) the same as what it means to bzr or to svn etc etc...
 
8:45 AM
Are we done being pretentious?
You understood my problem right?
 
Each VCS has its own concepts, commands, etc.
No, I did not undersood your problem. You never stated it clearly.
 
I am using SVN right now, with ankhSVN as UI for it. I want something similar, a simple tool that provide me version control, online.
Now, does that work? Or will you keep acting like a snob?
 
Because, "coding is hard" was definitely the most idiotic comment I could have imagined on a rant about github.
 
The point is that the model of SVN is not the same than the model of GIT (etc...)
 
8:47 AM
Are you fucking kidding me?
 
You need to choose which models fit your needs and habits.
 
A wiki link to "revision control"?
 
And the issue is that terminology is not the same. What git calls commit-ing is not exactly the same as what svn calls it (and likewise for branching, etc...)
 
I don't care about the model. I don't care which engine is used. I want a car that I don't have to assemble myself. Do you know anything like that?
Or will you just keep bullshitting me with how "driving is hard" or that "driving lessons" will help.
 
Then, buy some services from a company having that know how. And buy consulting too...
Bye!
 
8:49 AM
Dude, that's what I am asking for. Do you know any company who is providing service.
But clearly, you have your head in your ass, because someone said something bad about your precious tools.
You sent me a fucking link to revision control. And that is after I told you I am using SVN right now. Do you send links to alphabets when someone asks about grammar?
 

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