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2:12 AM
Duda & Hart is the one I learned from in college. Bishop I used in teaching.
Stork was added in the 2nd edition. Duda and Hart wrote the first edition.
Why is the Kimdle edition $160 and the hardcover version $90 new?
 
 
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8:32 AM
@CrisLuengo Thank you!
 
 
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12:44 PM
@CrisLuengo I'll remember that if I ever decide to learn this shit
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні mast.hpc.social/@ProjectPhysX/112118756527384582
> FP4 arithmetic on Blackwell... 🖖🤣
Here is all possible values of the glorious FP4 format:

0111 +NaN
0110 +NaN
0101 +NaN
0100 +Inf
0011 +1.5
0010 +1.0
0001 +0.5
0000 +0
1000 -0
1001 -0.5
1010 -1.0
1011 -1.5
1100 -Inf
1101 -NaN
1110 -NaN
1111 -NaN
 
 
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1:52 PM
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні IEEE FP is convenient, but it certainly is not efficient.
 
@CrisLuengo Efficient in what sense?
 
2:21 PM
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Q: Revisiting the voting requirements test

SpencerGIt's been a while since we last talked about the one-reputation voting change. We are still pursuing this because stagnating participation on the network is a concern for all of us, and we want to think about ways to grow the active community on the network. We have, by design, utilized rep as a ...

FYI: 1-rep voting coming to SO
 
2:31 PM
Unvolunteered, nice
At least this will solve the HNQ issue :P
 
2:53 PM
@flawr It wastes a lot by having so many different NaNs, and two zeros. In a 64-bit FP it doesn’t matter much. In a 4-bit FP it becomes painfully obvious.
 
Ah yes, I wasn't aware that there are so many ways to get NaNs:)
 
Many years ago U talked to someone at a conference that designed a different FP representation that is much more efficient. He showed how you can get so much better precision out of calculations and so on. I understand chip manufacturers don’t want to change their designs for this, but you’d think that if you introduce a 4-bit FP processor you’d look for a better FP representation?
 
But at that 4 bits I must say it doesn't really "feel" like floating point numbers anymore:)
@CrisLuengo No more negative zeros? Heresy!
 
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From a quite level-headed guy
 
3:26 PM
@flawr yeah, it looks like you could get more precision if you used signed integers… Does a NN even need NaN? The only thing you then have left is the overflow marker. A signed integer with saturation arithmetic would be much better.
 
3:39 PM
The Open Compute Project specifies FP4 as sign, 1 mantissa and 2 exponent bits, no Inf or NaN. That gives you +/- [0, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 3, 4, 6].
There’s also a “radix-4 FP4 format”: sign, 3 exponent, and 0 mantissa bits. That gives probably +/- [0, 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16]? Limits depending on how the exponent offset is defined.
No, the radix-4 FP4 format uses 4 as a radix, not 2. Duh! It does +/- [0, 1/64, 1/16, 1/4, 1, 4, 16, 64]. Neat!
Still the minus 0 though… I prefer two’s complement.
 
 
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