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12:13 AM
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PID smoker controller for the win.
 
@Suever What're you smoking?
 
@TroyHaskin Just a half pork butt/shoulder/whatever
 
@Suever Nice. I've smoke many a butt in my day.
 
It's resting now but I'll have some pics in 30 minutes or so
 
Nice.
I got a chuck roast braise that's about to finish. Rest and slicing soon to follow.
 
12:23 AM
I hope it tastes good. I'm tired of waiting. Also when one considers drinking a beer while grilling/smoking/whatever necessary, many beers can be consumed in the time it takes for a pork butt
Not much of a stall this time around though thankfully
The blip around 6:42 is when I wrapped it to speed things along
@TroyHaskin That sounds delicious
 
@Suever I'm guessing the lines are air temperature, internal temperature, and ...?
 
Orange is the pit temperature, green is internal temperature and the blue one from the bottom is the fan speed
0-100%
 
Very nice.
Is this all an equipment package you bought? Or is there some custom coding in there?
 
Well so the hardware is basically a heatermeter
The software is mostly off the shelf with a few tweaks to the PID parameters
But as part of that project you literally buy a pile of parts and a custom printed PCB and go to town with the soldering iron
And then I had to make a custom attachment for the fan to my smoker which is a customized version of this
 
12:38 AM
Interesting.
I will have to look into this. If only for the need cred.
 
Yea it was a super fun project to work on and it works damn well. I've got it rigged up with a battery so that I can run the thing for ~24 hours
 
 
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5:29 AM
hello
 
 
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10:49 AM
@LuisMendo I think I understood by now the principle of the resistor cube; in 4D it'd be 4-12-12-4 in parallel; the current spreads from the injection into four equal resistors, thus they might as well be connected by a wire as they will be at the same voltage (analogous to the link you send me for the cube). From each of those four points, one can go to three other directions, one less than the initial spread.
Then it's symmetry: current is drawn through four equal resistors, which in turn draw from three each, resulting in 4-12-12-4 in parallel, which amounts to 1/4+1/12+1/12+1/4 = 2/3 R
brb, groceries shopping.
 
This weak I'm gonna be teaching about the fourier transform. smbc is the only source I have so far, any other suggestions? :D
Hi, I have no answer
 
@flawr That sounds like all there is to it....
 
11:21 AM
@Adriaan The problem is actually harder than what I though at first glance
@flawr I have a very good suggestion. Let me find it
Look and be amazed (if you don't know it already, that is; it has been posted in this room in the past)
Also this
Jun 23 '16 at 23:06, by Luis Mendo
@Dev-iL @AnderBiguri I think you guys will like this one: discrete Fourier transform with gears, cams and springs
Lastly, this may be my favourite for "golfiness" :-)
Jul 21 '15 at 18:42, by Luis Mendo
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@LuisMendo Time to make a new one - the blue colors aren't matching :P
(Nice "infographic" though :) )
 
Oh, true!
It's not mine, but maybe I can replace the whole colour in the png
Difficult. It has anti-aliasing, so it's actually several colors in the edges
 
12:09 PM
@Joe seriously?
 
Joe
what?
 
don't act like a needy little brat
last warning
 
Joe
what is it?
 
3 messages moved to Trash
 
too late, we need to address the elephant in the room
 
12:10 PM
You have a kick-button as well ;)
 
that comes after the last warning
 
Indeed, with the last warning comes a trashing though imo
 
*shrug*
 
Joe
warning for what? what did I do? I want to know what the x axis show
 
@Joe don't be a greedy help vampire with ramming in 20-odd question marks like we all need to drop whatever it is we're working on to stand erect at your call
I'd rather not drop a piece of low-grade uranium on my toes, thank you very much.
 
Joe
12:13 PM
Adriaan you are a very respectful man thank you ,, I will do more research :)
 
*snicker* erect
 
Do NOT consider this room to be a tutorial room please. If you are about to ask a question here, first consider whether it would be on-topic on SO main. If so, feel free to ask. If not, please don't ask it.
 
and even if you do try to ask for tutorial help, hoping that someone will have the time and patience to hold your hands, don't act like you're entitled for anything
 
Joe
I see your ponit ,, I do more googling
 
12:15 PM
personally, I'm fine with asking for help as long as the person asking is humble
 
@AndrasDeak imo the addition should be "a welcome and present member of the room", i.e. not only coming here for questions, but also conversing in all the nonsense otherwise going on here.
 
Joe
OK Adriiaan I will do what you say ,,, :)
 
@Adriaan our mileages vary
 
as in: if I forget a command or something, I'd feel no hesitation to ask here. It's the difference between a classmate knocking you on the shoulder and asking something or you knocking directly on the prof's door
@AndrasDeak we don't do miles here :P
 
exactly
 
12:21 PM
speaking about prof's; I just spoke to mine for my graduation project @AndrasDeak
 
killer lasers from outer space?
 
probably I'll do an internship in the oil industry over the summer :D
 
hydrogen bomb for the moon?
 
WHOOOO OIL \o/ HUZAAAH! GAS!!!!
 
oh, killing wildlife on a global scale, awesome
 
12:22 PM
it's for land-based RADAR as a replacement for seismic with geophones
 
engineers, the only guys who actually capitalize radar
 
anyhow, I have about 2 weeks to think on the project details and get back to them with a short project proposal
 
have fun with it
 
This is a heart....not a cell — Suever 21 secs ago
 
@Suever you medical nerds :P
 
12:36 PM
It's a cardiac MRI to be precise
Literally what I look at every single day
 
what I look at every day ^
 
It's a little hard to do something if you don't even know what you're doing
Also automatic segmentation of cardiac contours like that is an extremely difficult task that has yet to be solved
Also I had been away from the South so long that I had forgotten that tornadoes were a thing...
 
@Suever you in redneck territory?
 
@Adriaan Atlanta. South but not very redneck
Apart from when interstates burn down because someone lit a piece of furniture on fire
 
do you see fancy wavy clouds? (undulatus asperatus)
 
12:48 PM
ah, one of the new entries into the World Cloud Atlas!
 
Nah I wish it were that cool
 
@AndrasDeak looks to be a time-accelerated video
 
@TroyHaskin And here's the final result. Unfortunately it didn't end up with as nice of a color as I'd hoped, but delicious nonetheless
 
@Adriaan it's called a time lapse
an imgur 404 should look different from that
nginx is being silly
 
@AndrasDeak Nah it's an issue with my internet connectivity it seems. I can't actually upload stuff
 
1:00 PM
oh, I see
 
Had some flashbacks to Dial-up trying to upload those
I don't know how else to explain this
@Dr.John I don't know what your sampling rate is. It must be known though. You cannot determine the period without it. If you don't have it you can only determine relative frequencies of two signals you receive. — Suever 15 secs ago
 
1:17 PM
oooh, yummy
the sad thing about work trips is that I can't program as often as I do at home :'(
 
@excaza Traveling anywhere interesting?
 
I'm in Missoula for 2 weeks
so it's not all bad :p
 
Oh nice!
When describing an equation, would you say that T denotes the transpose operation or transpose operator?
 
1:33 PM
I've always said operator, but that doesn't mean I'm right
 
Yea that was my gut feeling
 
it's not an operator in the math sense, but it's an operator in the programming sense
 
So operation?
Or just "the transpose"
 
I'd call it either of the latter ^
probably just "the transpose", even in a paper
 
But you also say maths....soooooo :p
Yea I like that. Plus it saves a word
 
1:36 PM
@Suever I'd say operation, mainly because the word sounds less daunting
 
Operation makes me think of this and that makes me anxious
 
@AndrasDeak But it is, isn't it?
^^ Haha
I never played that
 
I'm trying to edit a paper with ~20 equations that's written in Word...
 
did they use the equation editor
he asked hopefully
 
Thankfully yes
 
1:39 PM
@Suever bring the gasoline
 
Ugh. Equations in Word are a mess of mouse clicking
 
And it's really hard to appreciate bold characters in the equations
 
yet still easier than latex :p
 
Nooo!! ^ :-)
LaTex is so much easier
 
The part that kills me too is that the references to the variables throughout the text don't match in font or anything
 
1:40 PM
(once you get used)
 
What is with the crappy MATLAB + Image Processing questions as of late?
 
oh man
 
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Q: how to recognize detected object and track it in matlab?

prithvi17I have detect a moving object using background subtraction and now i want to recognize it as pedestrian or moving car and than track it further. how can i do this in effective way?. Is there any source code in MATLAB to do this?. Thanks in advance.

 
@LuisMendo well, it maps vectors of a linear space (matrices) to vectors of another linear space (matrices), and it's even linear. But I like to think of my operators as stuff that you use in prefix notation
 
everyone's here in chat
what a good monday!
 
1:41 PM
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Q: Identify missing object in image - Matlab

manoharI need need help to identify the objects in an image. This is the image, there are 20 objects in the box, and I need to identify when any are missing. I've highlighted with a red box the part which should be identified.

 
@rayryeng Like the one where they wanted to identify a "cell" which is really a heart?
 
Yup ^^^^ lol
 
@AndrasDeak I was just trying to nitpick :-P
 
@AnderBiguri is missing!
 
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Q: Cell detection on Matlab

ngoduyvuI am doing image-processing. My exercise is to detect a cell in video and draw a boundary around it like in the image: Now I can only detect the cell by the template matching technique (cut a picture of the cell of the first frame of the video as a template then compare it to other frames to lo...

 
1:41 PM
@LuisMendo well you succeeded, congratulations :P
 
someone call him
 
Hahaha ^^
 
we need the beard
 
And the beard's calm, patient comments
 
in Python, Mar 13 at 22:51, by wim
Andras Deak, king pedant.
 
1:42 PM
@rayryeng Oh yea I loved this one. "Help me identify the missing object...that isn't missing in the picture"
 
in Python, Mar 13 at 22:51, by Andras Deak
we are pleased
ROFL ^
 
@Suever Yeah... 20 objects in the picture... help me identify the missing one... here's what the object doesn't look like draws bounding box around the actual non-missing object.
It's like a messed up version of Where's Waldo?
 
@excaza Hahaha that's great
 
This artist is actually really good at it
he's got a ton of stuff
 
1:48 PM
They have lullaby renditions of everything
 
Anyone catch the new Rick and Morty this weekend? I don't know how I managed to not get into it until earlier this year.
 
imgur was all over it
or it was all over imgur
either way, I know there's a new Rick and Morty, whatever it is;)
 
This is the only Rick I know of
 
@AndrasDeak Don't forget the great Zombie War.
 
@gnovice Yeah, watched it yesterday...
 
1:49 PM
@gnovice I noticed some of it
 
@LuisMendo Got me. Damn it
 
Hahaha
 
@LuisMendo I recognize that URL. Not this time, buddy!
 
\o/
 
I was expecting a Walking Dead video
 
1:50 PM
bounty huntered
 
Need to use URL shortener next time
 
youtu.be/definitely_not_rickroll_3k5n2k6v
 
^_^ Coral
 
@Dev-iL I've been too lazy to find the source, thanks for sharing :D
 
1:51 PM
@Dev-iL LOL
That's what happens when the English try to be southern
 
> "Cow, cawrl, caw, cowl, crawl, crow, coarl, coral, craw, col" everytime the Carl-ed on The Walking Dead."
 
I think it's time y'all...
 
"Activate subtitles for the full experience."
 
@rayryeng Yah!
 
1:57 PM
:D:D you've graced us with your presence so much and also it would be very nice to have one of the SO MATLAB forefathers be an owner here. It's only fitting.
 
@rayryeng You honor me, good sir.
 
congrats budder
 
2:12 PM
\o/
 
I do solemnly swear to rule with honor and insanity... uh integrity.
 
LMAO
 
random company wide impromptu meeting in the lunch room today ..
to "Share some positive news in person with the full-time staff" lol
 
did they see your twitch?
 
my twitch?
 
2:19 PM
*switch
I'm sure you have a few ticks too :P
 
They're also scheduling them in random hotel locations for employees not at the office... the weirdest part is that we have our general meeting this upcoming friday lol
So apparently it can't wait
@AndrasDeak ohhh hahaha I thought you meant the streaming website
 
my brain did too:D
 
Maybe they're letting you know that you now have unlimited vacation. i.e. the company is shuttering
That could possibly be construed as positive news
 
BTW, now that you're all here - I want to consult about . How do I find the coordinates of salt&pepper noise in an otherwise smooth image (so that I could set them to NaN and possibly inpaint them later on)? I tried applying some filter then subtracting the result from the original, but I got stuck with "auras" around the points... How would I treat it differently if the s&p noise came in clusters (of say 3-5 pixels) instead of completely isolated pixels?
 
something with erosion?
or is it not binary?
 
2:27 PM
not binary
 
What kind of filtering did you use?
Should be medfilt2
 
something something wavelets
 
@Suever yeah, with default settings
 
So theoretically for bigger noise you'd just use a bigger kernel
But image quality degrades pretty fast
You could compute image gradients and use those to isolate the peaks
 
@Suever I tried it with the magnitude of imgradient, was somewhat inconclusive
 
2:29 PM
Assuming the gradients in your actual image are quite small
 
So I don't want to denoise the image by means of smoothing, rather identify the problematic (i.e. "change the most when applying a spatial filter") pixels
 
So is the output of medfilt2 by itself not suitable?
Do you have an example image?
 
nope, for the reason you just mentioned - I cannot afford degradation of the image
@Suever sure, just a minute
 
@ballBreaker They have that sharing crap at work all the time. I never share anything
 
sharing as in food, or sharing as in stories?:D
the former sounds weeeeird, and the latter sounds like a sect
 
2:33 PM
both
@Dev-iL The image is more or less smooth and you want to identify the pixels that are corrupted by salt and pepper noise?
 
Could you compare the result of imgradient pre and post-medfilt2?
 
the mafia is on the job
 
@Suever didn't try this... what would that do?
 
@Dev-iL Well medfilt2 would drastically reduce the gradients at the noisy spots
And would mostly preserve gradients everywhere else
So the difference would separate naturally high gradients and high gradients due to noise
 
2:36 PM
@Dev-iL Have you considered looking at interest point detectors, or corner detectors?
If you have an image that is predominantly smooth, the corner response at those locations would be almost 0 except for the impulse locations
 
@rayryeng I am unfamiliar with those
 
Basically you build the horizontal and vertical gradients and build a second moments matrix for each pixel in the image
 
@rayryeng so imgradientxy?
 
You then find the Eigenvalues of the matrix, and those pixels whose eigenvalues are quite larger denote a high corner.
It's the basis of the Harris Corner Detector (i.e. detectHarrisFeatures in CVST).
@Dev-iL yeah!
 
@rayryeng Like that question from today, eh?
 
2:38 PM
@Dev-iL finding the 4 coordinates of the bounding box? yeah
 
@Suever lmao
@rayryeng sharing? haha
 
If you don't have CVST, I use a great function from Peter Kovesi.
 
@rayryeng I got everything - academic license :D
 
Oh, yeah, here we have emails go out about pregnancies and stuff like that, is that what you mean?
 
@Dev-iL :D
In case:
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A: Trying to find/understand correct implementation of Harris Corners

rayryengFor self-containment, the calculation of the Harris Corners is based on the calculation of the correlation matrix M: For each pixel in the image, you want to collect a N x N pixel window weighted by Gaussian weights and compute the response value R at the location (x,y) in the image by: Val...

@ballBreaker oh no no lol. People at work want me to share success stories ... something like "Yeah I completed objective X in < 2 weeks" or something lik ethat
@Dev-iL But yeah if the image is mostly smooth and there is salt and pepper noise, try a Harris Corner Detector to isolate out the exact locations of the impulsive noise. Theoretically those impulsive points would constitute as a large response in the corner detector.
 
2:43 PM
yeah, looks like detectHarrisFeatures() did the trick... I will read about this some more! Also, thanks for the link :)
 
@rayryeng oh haha, I don't think it's anything like that
This email was sent out by the CEO
no one has any idea what it's about
 
@Dev-iL No problem! I'm glad it helped!
@Dev-iL If you would like some great material on how Harris works, these slides are great.
It goes into the full mathematics behind why the Harris Corner Detector works and why the second moments matrix is used to find the corners.
 
3:02 PM
Dupe please:
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Q: Octave - exponentiation with square matrix

DeanWhy does in Octave the following X = ones(10, 10) X ^ 2 yields a 10x10 matrix with all elements set to 10? I was not expecting this but rather having all elements squared (and therefore a matrix of 10x10 1 elements)

It's tagged in Octave so I can't dupehammer it.
I've already linked to a duplicate in the post.
 
3:16 PM
MATLAB doesn't index that way. Please don't answer question if you don't understand the basic syntax of the language yourself. — Adriaan 5 secs ago
facepalm
@rayryeng has an accepted answer by now, great
 
fuckkkk
so much for that lol.
@AndrasDeak I see you're tearing it up in the Python room. Are we not good enough for you anymore?
 
@rayryeng not since you've left us :'(
 
oh lol. sorry.
I've been very backlogged. I haven't had time to breathe. I'll try and come here more often... but you guys are carrying along fine without me so far.
 
@rayryeng matlab's expensive;)
 
OH yes. You are no longer an academic :P
 
3:30 PM
@rayryeng he's not?!? cc @AndrasDeak
You left university? Can you even get out of bed in the morning?
 
well he did graduate from his PhD a while ago.... I'm assuming with graduation goes your MATLAB access :P
 
@rayryeng iirc he just stuck there having a job now
 
Hey @ray, morning all :)
 
@beaker MEEEEP
 
@rayryeng Not emotionally
:'(
 
3:41 PM
@ballBreaker hahaha oh c'mon.
@beaker Hello there Texan!
 
Howdy partner!
yeee haw!
@beaker am I doing it right?
 
@ballBreaker almost... it's more like
MEEEP MEEEEEPP!!!!!
 
hehe
 
@ballBreaker I don't know, did you slap your hat on your chaps?
 
@beaker yessir!
 
3:47 PM
@ballBreaker Then yer doin' it right!
 
@rayryeng I've got not one, but TWO hockey matches upcoming! I'm going to visit the missus next week in Finland, and she bought us tickets to the semis of the play-offs; and the week after there's a practise interland Netherlands-Japan (rubbish teams, I know) around the corner from where I live :P
 
lmao. C'mon are you that denegrating of your countrymen that they can't beat a country whose hockey team doesn't even deserve to be there?
 
@rayryeng ours doesn't deserve that either :D
 
@Adriaan :D
 
anyhow, I'm glad to be supporting them, wearing an orange shirt and all :P
 
3:51 PM
@Adriaan :D:D
Perhaps we should change our shirts from pink to orange.
 
whoa, you're not a Dutchman, are you? Puts on skeptics hat
 
well I was going to put on the orange colour in solidarity for your countrymen :P
 
loud and orange
I remember an even more outrageously orange one
 
@Adriaan wow is that you!? :D
 
That's the Dutch Friendship Tartan
that is not me, alas
 
3:55 PM
awwww
got my hopes up
Ah OK, so I should adopt this dutch friendship tartan.
 
that's the pattern I meant!
Loud and orange :D
 
my-eyes-are-dripping-out-of-their-sockets pattern
 
Find the corners!
 
Friend of mine got married with a MacLeod girl, poor sod:
 
@AndrasDeak I would like to apologise for my rage-quit last month. I was just having a bad day at work but you unfortunately received the brunt of it. I don't have any issues with you or your rude-tude. :P
Is that... is that a Ferrari-themed Tartan?
 
3:57 PM
no, no, you were perfectly right
 
just kidding.
 
I forgot that you didn't come here so often, so we didn't have a well-established atmosphere of friendly discourse :(
in that context my butting around would've come across differently
 
@AndrasDeak yes yes lol. I'm sorry. I didn't read the message history to see where that was coming from.
Now reading the history, I would have not helped.
helped that sod.
 
it's OK, we're both butts:)
 
if you smoke, then you're a bigger butt than I am.
 
3:59 PM
@rayryeng only cigars
 
nah, I quit after 20 years of second-hand smoking when I started living alone :P
 
ok, then he's a very sophisticated butt.
HAHAHA your roommates? That's a little inconsiderate.
 
parents :|
 
ohhhhh :(
 
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