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11:09 AM
@AndrasDeak You've been to Prague?
 
@Dev-iL yup, once, long ago:)
great place, feels a lot like home (not as much as Kraków)
 
I figured it'd be "more of the same" to somebody from Europe :)
I'm planning to go there in a few weeks
 
yup, there was a lot of interaction back in the day, especially during the Monarchy
 
@StewieGriffin When you see questions like this, do you flag for migration?
 
11:58 AM
@AndrasDeak "back in the day"... :)
So on the topic of Prague... I don't suppose you have any tips of where I should and shouldn't go..?
 
not really, sorry:/
the riverside is beautiful at night, but that's a given
 
Yeah... I really enjoyed it when I visited your city :)
Can't get used to the idea of rivers that aren't full of toxic waste mixed with a bit of water
 
well if you swam in the Danube in Budapest, you'd have around 50-50 chance of you skin shedding;D
although it's not supposed to be that bad (bathing is prohibited of course)
 
Then it's not that different from our typical rivers :D :( ...
 
lot of dogs swim in it and most of them don't get skin diseases ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
pH 3 lol:D
no, it's not that bad
it still counts as water
 
12:08 PM
I've just read the section on Pollution (which I linked) and found it equally hilarious and sad.. Didn't know the situation was that bad
The Hebrew article also says that the floor, banks and vegetation are contaminated with radioactive materials, but the "ministry of environmental protection" says it doesn't pose a danger to public.
...so when they started cleaning it in 2015, they took some ground samples and found (along the expectedly high fuel residues) unexpectedly high salinity contents, which pretty much ruined the plan of cleaning the soil using biological agents...
 
12:31 PM
Morning/afternoon gentlemen
 
Hi!
 
How's that uifigure stuff coming along?
 
The blog post - waiting in Yair's mailbox (until he finishes his trip to Switzerland, I suppose). Further investigations into callbacks and other undocumented features - stopped for the time being due to lack of skill on my part.
I have no idea where to even start investigating the Chrome->MATLAB bridge (specifically that direction)
 
12:47 PM
@Adriaan who the what now?
 
1:07 PM
I have a feeling I'm going to be laid off
and it makes me so happy
I hope I'm not wrong
@Adriaan lmao yeah I remember this
 
What's stopping you from just quitting, if this job makes you so miserable?
 
@Dev-iL Benefits are better if you're laid off supposedly
i.e. you get to play victim
 
Not in my socialist-paradise of a workplace...
..here you get the same (better) benefits regardless of the reason of employment termination
 
@excaza Didn't realize strsplit just used regexp internally. I've always avoided/hated strsplit, but now I feel even more strongly
 
@Dev-iL I want employment insurance lol
 
1:11 PM
what's that?
 
60% of my wages if I get laid off
(after the severance/termination pay)
If they lay me off I'll get 2-4 weeks of regular pay, then my EI will kick in once I apply for it
 
you only get this in Canada if laid off!?
 
If I resign, or quit.. then I'll get maybe 2 weeks of pay, then that's it
Yeah :\
 
And now you see what sort of behavior such lawmaking encourages
 
Well the law makers are probably the biggest beneficiaries of it
 
1:15 PM
At the price of lost productivity / happiness...?
This translates to money eventually
 
@excaza that was in reply to the answer you gave on Carl's question about varargin. He's a "self-proclaimed R-evangelist", who even commented on a few MATLAB questions "Use R, it's easier there!"
 
@Dev-iL Yeah..
Common Law is bullshit sometimes
 
@Adriaan lol, I missed that
 
Ander would've kicked his head in if he'd be physically near
 
Ander doesn't strike me (no pun intended) as the violent type...
 
1:26 PM
He was rather pissed off at him
 
1:52 PM
@Dev-iL Anyways, I'm really hitting the job search this week hard regardless, lol I can't just sit around and hope they lay me off
 
for i = 1: size(error,1)
nooooo
 
for i = 1: size(error,1)
    for(i,i+j) = sum;
end
 
2:15 PM
@excaza What's so awful about that apart from the i?
 
Oh. Duh. Under-caffeinated
 
error isn't a reserved word though
 
neither is sum, but using it is less than ideal
 
2:36 PM
I love how people just copy/paste and ignore the rest of the answer that suggests a better alternative
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Q: Matlab: How to find the intersection between cells of string type using cellfun?

s.eI have a cell array of strings. I want to find the intersection of each cell and all other cells. I used the following line of code to do so: cellfun(@intersect, cellfun(@strsplit, XI, 'uniformoutput', false),cellfun(@strsplit, XJ, 'uniformoutput', false)) I got the following error: Error usi...

 
3:12 PM
In come the crap questions
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Q: Why this two programs in MATLAB give different results?

BichaI asked this question some time ago, the thing is that I saw in a book (I apologize because I can't remember neither the name nor the author) that one way to perform this simulation was the following: function ww=volley(pL,pV,p,q,wb,nsim) % volley(pL,pV,p,q,wb,nsim) % wb=(0,1) ww=zeros(nsim,1)...

I guess school is starting.
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Q: ECG signal analysis using Matlab

Yakop Yakop YakopI am working with ECG I used MIT - BIH Arrhythmia ECG, for example recording 100 lead 1 include about 2273 beats. I need cut these beats into rows of new matrix, but the important one I need center the r beaks in center of row in at 150th data number ? can some body help me to do that by matlam. ...

No... just... no. — rayryeng 9 secs ago
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Q: Frequency modulation and amplitude modulation of a random digital signal with an amplitude [0,+1 v]

Rehan ThilakarathnaConsider an information signal with a randomly generated digital bit stream with a amplitudes [0,+1V] .Consider both AM and FM modulation of this bit stream.Adding random Gaussian noise samples to the modulated signal show that FM is more immune to noise than AM. Assuming suitable modulation inde...

Do you want fries with your homework? — rayryeng 16 secs ago
 
3:33 PM
I certainly would
 
Lol. Fries are freaking delicious
 
@rayryeng did you start a new business? "Ray's homework snack parlour"?
 
I'd like my homework done medium-well, please
3
 
@Adriaan Yup. My daily special is a daily cup of stfu n00b.
3
 
Does that come free with a basket of RTFM??
 
3:48 PM
@rayryeng rofl
 
@Suever :D:D:D RTFM
that's for dessert.
@ballBreaker :D
how's it going at work man? Is your boss still giving you shit?
 
RTFM with sprinkles on top
 
@rayryeng yep lol
Today he got all pissy with me again and started raising his voice, because he told me to write an email describing a problem and to send it to him
Then he came back and got all pissed off with an angry tone saying "This clearly wasn't written to be sent to the client" .. lol and I just looked at him and went "Well,yeah, you didn't mention anything about the client"
anyways, it's just a shit show. He's been decreasing the work I've been getting. On friday I did literally nothing for 6 hours
So I'm hoping he's just trimming the work I get until they lay me off
I really really want them to lay me off
 
@ballBreaker and then?
 
Profit
 
4:02 PM
where'll you work?
 
I get a 4 week* staycation while I look for a new job
Basically I have enough money saved to live for 1 month (or more, with no income), if I get laid off they pay me for 1 month, then w/ Employment Insurance, I'll just scrape by
 
crap, that sucks
any sight on new work?
 
Meh, I would prefer that then what I'm doing now..
Which is going into work miserable everyday, coming home so drained and stressed out I can't bring myself to apply to a new job, getting stuck in a cycle
 
That's going to be really hard without any MATLAB functions. — Suever 30 secs ago
 
@Suever Too broad/unclear
 
4:06 PM
I'm tempted to resign so I can at least focus on applying somewhere else - but it's risky.. quite risky
 
Just spend those 6 hours of nothing on looking for jobs. Mooch off that company internet
 
I can feel a lay-off though.. we'll see. I'm going to wait it out this week and really really try to get my ass in gear
@Suever I'm just worried that they're looking for an excuse to give me a just-cause termination
If I don't give them one, I'm thinking they might just lay me off instead of trying to terminate me
 
@rayryeng, why? Don't you know matlam? — Stewie Griffin 13 mins ago
The snark is turned up to 11 today (I love it).
 
@StewieGriffin I'm assuming it's MATLAB's sheep cousin, right beside PyGoat, Oct-Cluck and FORBEEF.... so if that's the case, then I don't have the sheer (hehe) skills to help with their sheep issues. — rayryeng 1 min ago
@ballBreaker If you keep up your attitude, I'm sure they'll find something... but to be honest, I'd be pretty fed up too.
Actually at my old job, for a while I actually tried to do shit to get them to fire me.
but seeing as how they needed me more than I needed them, I abused it a bit. I started "working from home" (i.e. looking for jobs lmao) more often.
 
yeah that's clever lol
They need me too, but it's really weird with the work thing
My boss gives me menial tasks.. and basically insinuates to just take a long time doing it
I say "This task is going to take me about 20 minutes" and he goes "Okay, well spend lots of time testing it"
I'm in a weird position atm lol, they're either trying to get me to quit, or trying to see if I'll slip up enough for them to fire me
 
4:17 PM
hmmm... yeah that's weird.
 
But I'm also not sure if they know that they need me RIGHT NOW, but maybe not in a week or two, so they're just keeping me doing things in relation to this project from hell
Not giving me more work on other projects - in the hopes that after this is done, they can just do the typical "well our work ran out... lay off"
Gah. lol
 
Time to outsource you work to China and sit back and surf the internet all day.
 
lol surfing the internet is so boring
I want to apply for jobs
but figure thats a risk
 
true
You could answer some questions on SO and get that rep of yours moving in the right direction
 
I think a decent plan...
Is to just find a bunch of postings at night (~10), then send screenshots of them to my email
Then during the day, customize my resume/coverletter for each posting
Then at night, apply for those 10 jobs, and find new postings to customize at work the next day
 
4:21 PM
So I was just looking at your profile, do you even know MATLAB? stackoverflow.com/users/3968793/ballbreaker?tab=tags
Or do you just hang out here because we're that awesome
 
haha yeah I do actually
I worked with MATLAB in university for 4 years
 
haha ok ok
 
@Suever yeah he knows :D Just doesn't want to show off
 
@Suever hehe ^_^ also, you guys are awesome
 
We're very much off-topic 99% of the time
And really the only MATLAB that's in here is some joke code (Exhibit A)
 
4:37 PM
bahah yeah, not many people come in this room for help either, so it's mostly just talking about other problems on the site
 
BITCHLAB
 
@ballBreaker well, some do come here to use us as hotline, but we mostly tell them to sod off and ask a question on SO :D
 
Speaking of chat rooms. Where is the best place to have someone look over a web app that I'm having issues with. It's almost too complicated for a regular SO post
 
written in?
 
The issue is something in the realm of socket.io (javascript) -> nginx -> flask socketio (python)
basically I get random failed upgrades to websockets
And I'm not quite sure what I should be looking for as the failure point
 
4:46 PM
@Adriaan heheh
I was talking to Dom last night about moving to Austria
 
@ballBreaker is she going to move, or are you going to move?
 
The place looks so beautiful
 
oh, hypothetical.
 
Yeah hypothetical, I just told her I can't see myself living in Toronto beyond the next 5 years
 
@ballBreaker that's reasonably close to here, and András' backyard :p
@Suever why did you answer this highly Too Broad crap?
 
4:48 PM
How is that too broad?
 
(So we ended up just shooting locations back and forth.. I would need to visit it first - and learn some German.. but yah..)
@Adriaan ;)
gunna go eat some lunch lads, brb
 
@Suever hmm yea, might be. There are other options to do so.
But it's a "I didn't try anything, please do my work LOLOLOLOL" post
 
@excaza But does minecraft in MATLAB make my computer get as hot as it does in Java?
I play Minecraft to stay warm in the winter
 
probably
electric heat is 100% efficient!
 
And it has the added benefit of being entertaining!
 
4:59 PM
@Suever at least make sure you run MATLAB in a virtual Debian box on Linux, to increase system load
 
Yea so it doesn't look like there's a good chat room for backend web dev stuff
I think my issue is an nginx issue
Maybe I'll just configure it to not use nginx for now and see if the problems persist then I at least know where to focus my attention
So actually I'm curious. If you guys go here and hit run. Does this freeze for you (i.e. you don't see output)
 
6:01 PM
@Suever
I see 1 through 12
 
Yeah same here @Suever, 1-12
lol @ray man things are getting soo weird here, agghhh
I'm so uncomfortable
I have about 30 minutes of work to do today, then I'm going to be twiddling my thumbs for the rest of the day lol it makes me feel weird
 
Ok yea that's what supposed to happen... I hate bugs that are random
Luis gets issues more than most, so I wonder if it's a latency issue
 
@Suever Does it freeze up sometimes?
where is the MATL server hosted?
is it like an Amazon AWS instance or is this your own personal server?
 
Well so it uses socketio to establish a web socket connection. It does the first song and dance via standard ajax, and then when upgrading to websockets it'll just time out. SO when you go to hit the run button it just hang because it's waiting for the timeout.
Amazon AWS in Oregon
 
got it
how much is the bill running you?
 
6:09 PM
Free tier
Which charges after a year, but it's like ~$70/year
 
ah very nice.
 
But it's way overpowered for just MATL
 
so I'm assuming you already have other instances?
that's nice of you to fork over the cost :)
 
Nope, this is actually the only instance I have but I"ll migrate my own VPS over eventually I think
I actually really like their pricing structure
 
ah ok. cool.
still, very nice of you to offer.
Yeah even the most minimal of machines is too much for MATL lol
I'm assuming all you have set up is Octave, the dependencies of Octave and the hosting code for the website.
 
6:11 PM
Well that's why Amazon EC2 is nice, when it's idle you actually accrue compute resources, so when you get some crazy computationally intensive answer it can scale to accomodate it
 
nice.
 
and just chews away at those reserves
 
@ballBreaker yeah that's how I felt like a few weeks before I left.
 
Yea I have a Dockerfile that spins up an identical instance: nginx + octave + python + app + redis
 
My day consisted of coming in, checking email, having a few terminal windows open so it looked like I was doing work... chatting on here / answer questions, and watching Netflix.
 
6:12 PM
The source code is over here if you're interested
 
cool! that's awesome
 
It's kind of funny that only 1.3% of the codebase for an online MATL interpreter is MATLAB source code
 
@rayryeng Yeah this is exactly what they did to my buddy before the laid him off.. not really sure what's going to happen with me though. Either way, I'll be okay with the outcome lol
 
Granted I don't think that counts my .octaverc file
 
But I found out through the grapevine, that my boss is currently "Unhappy with me", also through a different grapevine, that he's been mentioning his displeasure with other people as well
 
7:11 PM
Ugh these people are killing me
@MiaGarbaccio Did you even try my answer? You don't need imfillSuever 50 secs ago
 
posted on August 29, 2016 by Steve Eddins

As Ned Gulley posted over on the MATLAB Community blog last week, MATLAB Central is 15 years old.... read more >>

 
@Suever "is there a way to draw a line around the border of the image" - yes, BW(:,[1,end]) = cummax(BW(:, [1,end]), 1); BW(end, :) = 1; >:-)
 
Killing me
 
If I every build a science porn empire, cummax is so going to be one of my movie franchises.
oh ray was on fire today:P
 
7:26 PM
@AndrasDeak that's connected to your real name genius ;)
 
What. The. Fuck. She deleted the question
 
which one?
found it
 
I'd inform them that it's very bad form to do so
 
The worst example of an X/Y problem
I don't know how
 
7:31 PM
comment on any of their other posts?
 
@AndrasDeak Don't forget to add in "jerk force"
 
Also my answer completely works, so I'm not sure what the issue is
The question literally says "fill in a binary image below a line"
 
Well, one could say "neener neener that's why you don't answer low-quality questions" :P
 
Clearly, you suck at reading minds, @Suever. Get better at it.
 
It's actually a decent question with a clever solution
They were just convinced for some reason they needed to use imfill to create a binary output
binary -> lines -> imfill -> binary
 
7:34 PM
it's a low-quality question with a confused asker, I'm not denying the cleverness of the solution:)
the XY problem is strong with this one, looking at the comment thread
"If I draw 3 boundaries, I'll have a closed space for imfill"
"If I quick-dry glue a plank with nails onto my wall, I can finally use my hammer instead of driving screws"
 
yea exactly
that shit drives me batty
 
I'm not just screwing with you; low-quality questions positively correlate with ignorant/douchy behaviour, in my experience
it's a risk you have to consider when you answer these
you have my sympathy regardless:D
are you planning to instruct OP?
if you're not, I will
 
@AndrasDeak If either of you do, please share. ;)
 
oh I'm real nice:P
 
It's very bad form to delete a question which has answers. Please undelete the post you just deleted and provide us the information we need to actually provide what you want. — Suever 4 mins ago
Needs more douche
 
7:38 PM
@Suever go date her; 3rd year biomedical student :P
 
@Suever yup, and threats
@Adriaan I thought Suever has a family
 
Nope. I don't date people who suffer from Dunning-Kruger
 
Also anyone with a BS in biomedical engineering by definition doesn't know anything.
Lol and we're back with an accepted answer
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A: Fill under MATLAB binary image of line

SueverYou can just use cummax (cumulative max) down the columns to do this. This will result in an image with is 0 until it hits a 1 in each column and thereafter it will yield all 1's: BW = [0 0 1; 0 1 0; 1 0 0]; BW = cummax(BW, 1); If you're using a version of MATLAB that's older than...

 
tssk, pressuring an insecure girl into accepting your answers
 
7:49 PM
Lol. The answer clearly does what she wants, she didn't try it.
There's really no other way to interpret that question
 
> high-ability individuals may underestimate their relative competence and may erroneously assume that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others
That's why I've never been able to teach people lol
I was that horrible person trying to help out fellow students thinking to myself "How don't you understand this, you god damn idiot?!"
Also just realizing how arrogant me admitting to that sounds
 
Yup. That's also why I really hope my kids are good at Math
 
hahahah :')
 
No I'm pretty sure most people around these parts (who choose to hang out on SO) fall into that category
Except crowley of course
 
Watch out, maybe you'll get an autistic savant on your hands who learns more than you know by the age of 10
 
7:53 PM
I AM the autistic savant
(half joking...I think)
 
lmao
I think anyone who admits to being autistic, is probably autistic, so yeah - at least half
On one hand you have the people who ARE actually autistic, then on the other - you have people who think their autistic (and by vocalizing their thoughts on it are at least admitting to having asbergers) lol
I mean, unless it's socially acceptable to tell people you're autistic
I'm really just trying to entertain myself while I have no work, this is probably all BS
 
@Suever whatever you are, I'm pretty sure you're not autistic:)
 
Aspergers
I'm definitely on the spectrum somewhere.
 
does the spectrum include "none at all"?:D
 
Somewhere between Amazing and Badass
 
7:57 PM
I mostly meant that you seem to be quite developed in the social department, but I'm not an expert on autism:P
 
Lol. My coworkers and ex girlfriends may disagree
I think I'm more OCD than anything
 
now that's highly possible:)
 
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