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12:00 AM
Open source software has been good ever since Emacs first showed up
 
Some of it lacks direction though.
 
Can you guys help me clean something up please
 
Question: Why are my torrents only working from 12 midnight to 12 noon
 
Whatchagot?
 
a few days ago I renamed my main Namespace from filmGlossary to FilmGlossary, however I'm noticing that not everywhere has been updated.
 
12:01 AM
@James I would be willing to do that
 
@MoonOwlPrince ISP Throttling?
 
How can I update every instance of it?
The reason I changed was because I was using the wrong case format, namespaces should be Pascal right?
 
Ctrl+Shift+F will take care of all textual references
 
@James yes
 
Other than that, you can look in the project files directly.
 
12:03 AM
@CodeWarrior It starts off at 1 Mbps then goes down to 0.1 kbps
 
Ok thanks.
 
Now it is running at 2.5 Mbps
 
I did click the red underline when I did it which said 'replace all refences' or similar, I thought that would do the trick.
 
@James Using Resharper?
 
No, just standard VS
 
12:04 AM
@MoonOwlPrince Have you tried torrenting through VPN/Proxy?
@James Try Ctrl+Shift+F and do a replace. See if that works.
 
One other thing also something like JSON.net do I really have to add 'using Newtonsoft.Json;' to everyone of my class docs, or can I add it somewhere central and have it apply to all parts of my app?
 
I only download. Right now I am downloading Fedora and I always thought it would be silly to hide for torrents if it is OSS.
 
Or better yet, just do a search and then look at the returns.
 
@CodeWarrior Cheers.
 
If those classes are models, I generally subclass. So I have a model base class with things like the JSON reference and then my models derive from that class.
 
12:07 AM
@CodeWarrior Ha, I'm surprised you understood what I meant, just re-read my sentence and it was barely English! Thanks, they are mixture of Models and Viewmodels but I get the principal.
 
@James Think nothing of it. I have a hard time explaining myself too. Sometimes I think I just suffer from a lack of terminology.
 
 
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5:26 AM
@Nimesh hello there
 
5:44 AM
morning guys
 
6:14 AM
hi guys ,,,
 
6:25 AM
guys i am looking around for how could i make a locally running web server on the Client machines run on Https
 
 
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8:12 AM
Good morning
 
8:34 AM
aye, it is.
 
8:46 AM
Lol. Going through CVs is always fun.
This one guy professes over 8 years experience in Sharepoint 2010/2013.
9
 
@bhuvin why not setting a simple apache server up?
 
@SebastianL : Actually its supposed to run as a In-App server ...
 
oh ^^
 
What else guys ? how are the Christmas plans going on ?
 
@bhuvin how about this (codeproject.com/Articles/1505/…) as service?
you sure have to do some modifications for https ^^
 
8:52 AM
@SebastianL - Thanks man ... I am using Nancy for this purpose ...
Its pretty good in the normal cases but ...
 
hmm i dont have any experience with nancy ^^"
 
let me check if this works with the same ...
 
@bhuvin You can just use a certificate handshake on it ;-)
 
Yeah basically its gaming with the Https concepts ... which ahem ... I am unaware about ...
@RoelvanUden - aha ... But then how do i make it have a valid certificate bound to localhost:RandomPort/ ?
 
8:54 AM
not exactly Random i.e. any port
 
That's part of my own HTTP server implementation, so it works on sockets.
 
...
 
You can use the same idea for Nancy, because you get socket access.
 
@Squiggle - Lol ... 8 Yrs with Sharepoint 2010 ... This is more than Microsoft has with the same ...
aha .. Man checking it out ...
@roa
@RoelvanUden - So hws the Christmas plans on ?
 
I haven't done HTTPS with nancy, but it should be the same since I could use gzip streams on nancy sockets too :)
@bhuvin Plan: Write a bunch of code for a game! yay!
 
8:57 AM
@RoelvanUden - Aha ... Man out here its the Same ... India ... No leaves for Christmas .. :|
 
@bhuvin Oh but I do have vacation. I'll just be coding :P
You don't get vacation at all? :-)
 
nope man ... Startups ... Working 12 - 14 hrs a day ..
 
Another guy here claims to have used AngularJS at a previous job in 2011
(someone else in our team worked with him then, and that job was all WebForms...)
=_=
 
@bhuvin If it's your own startup that's to be expected.. but otherwise? No..
@Squiggle It's a bit like Angular! You can bind stuff, have state, etc! :-P
 
@RoelvanUden yeah. PostBacks are just like digests, right?
 
9:02 AM
@Squiggle Digests?
 
@RoelvanUden it's how angularJS checks for changes on the model state
 
@RoelvanUden - Its sometimes learning which plays the Driving factor ... Though today its not mine ... But this job surely does help me with mine ... Besides that Stocks sometimes can make you big ..
 
@Squiggle Oh, right, sort of but totally not really :P
 
yeah. Tenuous.
3rd CV: "Certified Scrum Master" - complete with a scan of his certificate. That expired in 2011.
protip: When applying for a role that requires UI design skills... Having a hideous, unreadable CV isn't probably going to do you any favors.
 
9:19 AM
@Squiggle Well.. if it's clean and clear, that's good enough. Fancy UIs stink.
 
is there any proper way of getting current date time from javascript or jQuery or we have to deal in Mili Seconds now !!
 
@RoelvanUden 4 pages of spreadsheet-like statistics, bright yellow backgrounds on headings... just fugly.
 
@CustomizedName Date.now()
@Squiggle Yeah..
 
"MCP in VB6 Desktop Application Development"
Colour me impressed, Mr. Candidate.
this is fun!
 
9:34 AM
You're allowed to recruit? :P
 
vb6 rocks
 
Our team is 1 staff and 5 contractors. As I'm one of the longest serving contractors I'm allowed to join in the hiring process :-]
 
just ask my previous boss
 
Anyone with an EU passport want to apply? Good C#, AngularJS and WebAPI experience...
 
hehe
 
9:41 AM
srsly, though. Anyone want to apply?
:P worth a try.
 
Dont have the required angular exp :p
 
@Squiggle which location is it
 
nor to half of the candidates.
@CustomizedName Switzerland
 
Ergh, Switzerland.
 
Erghhhh I would , but people there are just too nice as I heard..
 
9:46 AM
eheh
(not Zurich)
 
What's wrong with Switzerland?
 
Nothing is wrong, per-see. It's just.. I'd not want to live there.
 
@RoelvanUden you can live in France or Germany and commute...
 
I'd rather go live outside of the EU. Or Italy. Italy is cool. Or perhaps the UK.
 
I could do Italy, but not Rome.
 
9:50 AM
What about Norway?
 
More like SNOREway amirite?!
 
:D
 
nah, the only jobs there are for oil/gas companies. And alcohol is so expensive.
 
that's why you brew your own beer mate
:)
 
:9
 
9:52 AM
and ye, not everyone works within the oil/gas sector
:p
 
all the contracts I've seen out there have been thus
 
don't get me wrong, there are many many jobs within oil/gas, and it's probably easier to hire people from outside norway due to rude demanding norwegians :p
 
heh
 
I would love to work outside norway, but I guess that train has left the station a couple of years ago :p
 
:(
 
10:00 AM
@scheien Why? Family?
 
yep
wife and kids
we talked about moving to holland for a couple of years, but then the kids came along :p
wifey is part dutch
So ye, stuck :)
 
Kids can learn languages quickly. So yeah, you got that for now.
Until they grow up enough to rebel against ya :P
 
Hehe
The oldest one is 4, and she says "I wish I had another family" when she's mad
That's kinda hurtful :p
 
That certainly hurts because kids at that age so innocent that even when they lie, they are honest
 
Damn.
 
10:04 AM
:(
 
after 5 minutes everything is ok again, so it over in a blink :p
kids are truly honest, and they say everything that comes to mind
 
But I am certain as she matures, she will begin to appreciate her family more and more
 
She already does, it's just that she has to release her anger as everyone else
you cant say "get over it" to a kid
the rage is almost every time related to candy
:p
 
Ok, she is a kid after all
 
hehe
ye
Here the other day, they celebrated Santa Lucia at the daycare (kindergarten?)
and when I'm leaving
I hear a conversation from a young boy and his mom
he's probably around 10-12 years
he says: "mom, i cant rely on you anymore, now im 5minutes late for school, you fucking bitch"
and I'm like "wtf, are you letting him talk to you that way?"
 
10:12 AM
@scheien LOL! That should result in soooo much ass slapping.
 
Too much slack on the rules part on her end maybe
 
If I was the dad, I would have a big argument with the mum in private while he is away and when he is back ground him until he starts treats his mother will love, care and kindness. She would have to punish him as well or I would avoid speaking to her about anything important so she gains her authority over him.
I hope kids don't aspire to be like Eric Cartman.
 
I guess that's every parents nightmare
 
@MoonOwlPrince HAHAHAHAHA
Your grip on satire is not strong
 
Butters is cooler than Cartman, Stan and Kyle after all. He was close to pimping Wendy
 
10:21 AM
@scheien duh wat
I'd have tripped the kid haha
 
hehe
 
@MoonOwlPrince Wendy is Butters' bottom bitch man.
 
Yeah! If Butters was my kid I would give him a half my salary
 
@MoonOwlPrince I hope that's not true lol.
 
Anyone use Oracle databases here?
 
10:27 AM
@Squiggle I have used before
However what you're gonna ask I doubt I can answer.
 
Just about the oracle client and tnsnames.ora
 
Yep no idea.
 
as far as I can see, it's just the same as any other database connection string
but half of the HOWTOs online talk about tnsnames and the oracle client as if it's a prerequisite
 
What are you trying to do?
 
Trying to test a new connection
 
10:33 AM
@Squiggle Just using the client?
The client I always used was uh
Oracle SQL Developer
As far as I am aware there is a separate Oracle client which is what I'm assuming you're using.
 
I'm not talking about a UI or anything. Just the ability for our .Net app to connect to an Oracle server.
 
I think you'd be lucky if you went into the SQL chatroom
 
it's not a SQL issue - it's just about configuring a .Net app to connect to an Oracle database.
 
But this is not the ASP.NET chatroom but people get more assistance here than in the ASP.NET chatroom
 
@Squiggle: it's the connectionstring you want?
 
10:37 AM
@MoonOwlPrince Funnily enough because most of us have used .NET at one point or another ..
 
to check db connectivity through .net app, or is it through the client you mentioned?
what? .net?
 
@Sippy And I am certain the SQL guys have been in that situation before
 
is that something new?
 
@MoonOwlPrince huh?
 
@scheien I just have no clue about the dependencies. I need to test connection to a new server. I've been told I need to update a "tnsnames.ora" file, but I can't figure out if that's actually dependent.
 
10:38 AM
@Sippy When they had to connect a .NET app to an Oracle surver
 
You can use the standard connectionstring structure if your adding it to a <connectiomnStrings> element
dunno about the client
 
gaah
the applications is the client. I'm not talking about some SQL Server Management Studio app.
 
hehe
 
but it looks like there's a dependency on having Oracle Client installed on any machine that accesses an oracle database
 
don't they provide an API
 
10:51 AM
so I can't just stick a new connection string in my app, without putting a new corresponding entry in the tnsnames.ora file
 
That's fucking stupid :(
 
that's Oracle!
 
HAVE YOU BOUGHT A LICENSE?
:>
 
not my problem
 
LOL
@Squiggle Ooo that reminds me of C++
 
10:52 AM
I've heard that that's one of the first questions they ask, dunno if it's true
 
"PLEASE DEFINE YOUR CLASS HERE AND THEN JK DO IT AGAIN HERE."
 
hehe
 
:-/
 
What if you create a new sample project and a new ef context, and point that to the oracle db?
Doesnt ef support oracle out of the box?
then copy the connectionstring info stuff
argh that school shooting in pakistan really disturbs me
 
@scheien Well.. it should
 
11:02 AM
I wonder what makes those people tick
Hatred?
 
I have no idea.
I don't really understand how they managed to interpret the Quran the way they did.
 
denotation/connotation problem :/
 
11:35 AM
Hey guys! Has anybody tried using libsodium-net in a universal windows 8.1 app?
 
Don't you love it when you think "I wrote some shitty code now I have to go back and change it"
And then you realise you already changed it absent mindedly at some point
It's like giving yourself a little gift, that or I just have amnesia.
 
11:54 AM
@Sippy Hi, was wondering if you can give me hand debugging something?
I've got a ListView that I'm trying to add items too. The method for adding the items is in my view (mainpage.xaml.cs) and if I call this method from within the view an item gets added without issue.
If however I call the exact same method from one of my class files it does call the method, and runs through the method fine, however doesn't add anything to the ListView.
 
@James Uh ..
Oh
I don't work with Windows forms sorry :)
I wondered what ListView meant lol
 
xaml isnt winforms?
:)
 
Ah ok, it's actually WPF.
 
I don't totally know what xaml is.
Cos I have never used it.
 
Haha ok.
 
12:01 PM
xD
 
so frustrating if I debug it line by line I can see my passed value being sent to the method and passed through to the 'add' line. But then nothing adds!
Will post on Stack Overflow.
 
@KendallFrey is probably the guy who would know
Or @RoelvanUden maybe
 
Ah ok, well I'll post on Stack and if they come on I'll point them to it. Cheers.
So what do you use C# for?
 
haha, hi @KendallFrey you were just being mentioned.
Was just about to post to Overflow but perhaps you could help. I have the following method in my mainpage.xaml.cs View:
public void addItem(string value)
        {
            ListView termsList = termsListContainer;
            string passedValue = value;
            termsList.Items.Add(passedValue);
        }
This is purely a method I've created to debug an issue I'm having.
It is meant to take a string value and add it to my ListView.
If I call the method from another method within mainpaige.xaml.cs it all works fine.
 
12:06 PM
I don't think Items is meant to take strings
you should use ItemsSource and binding
 
Ok, I'll look into that. Just to check, the actual issue I'm having is although it works if called from a method within the class, if I call the same method from another class the value gets passed to the method and carried through the the '.add' line, but then never gets added
 
@James ASP.NET MVC
 
System.Console all the way
 
Do you think that would be related to me not using ItemSource and binding?
 
I cloned wget in C# for my friend and he no longer downloads with his browser
 
12:09 PM
@MoonOwlPrince That seems really stupid.
 
He claims the console is more user friendly
 
He is an idiot.
If you gave my mom a browser she could do it
 
@James maybe, maybe not
 
If you gave her a console she'd say wtf is this
 
Well, if you have the link to something then why not?
 
12:10 PM
@James could it be you're calling it on the wrong object?
 
What is the point in finding a link on your browser
Then opening console just to wget the link instead of clicking it
That's just idiotic.
 
Well he wants to feel like he is still on FreeBSD
And that is the way he used to do it anyway. Now I have convinced him to start considering Windows and every other Microsoft product for everything he does in his life
 
Sounds dumb to me.
If you have a UI
 
@KendallFrey Hmm, I think the object is correct but let me try changing it as you recommended and see if that fixes things - at lesat it rules something out.
 
What's the point hooking commands in a console
 
12:11 PM
I don't get it either but if it made him then wth
 
Perhaps he's just stubborn and doesn't want to admit that he broke his mouse?
 
@Squiggle Pahahah
 
@Squiggle hahaha :D
 
@KendallFrey nonononononoo
I don't mind text UIs
 
12:12 PM
The console is very straight forward though
 
They are not user friendly in any way though
 
Easy to pipeline stuff
 
@MoonOwlPrince Yeah, for superusers.
Not for users, or even most power users.
Also console sucks so much for people who can't touch type
 
I disagree
 
There is no such thing as a super or power user. A user is a user whether using IE to buy from Amazon or using Visual Studio to pretend he knows what he is doing. I just like calling them users
 
12:14 PM
ofc you do :P
 
I love the console, and I type with 3 fingers
and a thumb for Ctrl
 
@MoonOwlPrince There's literally a board for super users on Stack Exchange...
 
But they are just users at the end of the day
 
A power user is someone who utilises shortcuts and other stuff to improve workflow
A user is someone who uses the UI for as much shit as they can.
 
Which is what every user does
 
12:15 PM
What's your point? These are established terms ..
 
"user" is such a broad term.
 
Yes and let us keep it that way
 
I prefer the term "Luser" for novices ;)
 
@Squiggle trolol
I'll tell my mother you called her a luser.
 
You are a genius
 
12:16 PM
IT STANDS FOR LEARNER-USER
 
@Squiggle Mate she gonna get the rubber gloves.
Watch out.
 
@Sippy sounds like my kinda lady <3
 
Wow that came out differently than I expected.
 
I put on my wizard hat and robes
 
Lol my colleague is playing detective with his database because he believes the migration guy is messing with live data
Switching off triggers to change stuff etc
 
12:17 PM
The console is awesome for prototypes
 
@Squiggle Hahaha, have you ever seen that cyber sex troll where he pretends he's in Runescape?
dons his blue wizard hat
 
@Sippy of course.
this is what I was referencing
 
Ah haha
Hm
"I need service credentials for your app or it won't work on IIS."
"Can't you just use the ones for the old app? I'm too busy to do that."
"Okay..."

They don't work.
Surprise! :D
I bet if I say they don't work to the guy he says well go and find the dev who worked on it before!
Let's find out.
 
eek. Oil prices hit $55 per barrel...
I hope you're paying attention to the news, people. Things are about to get weird.
 
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12:23 PM
@Squiggle Excrement powered vehicles!
 
@Sippy no... oil has suddenly become really cheap
 
@Squiggle Oh.
What was it before?
 
it was $120/barrel 6 months ago
 
WAT
 
Shit is about to hit the fan
 
12:24 PM
How the fuck does it fall liek that?!
 
more supply, less demand
learn your basic economics, Sippy
 
USA is producing 60% more internally than it was a couple of years ago, the oil-producing gulf states are politically stable and outputting more than they were, and the shrinking economy is using less.
 
lots of oil coming out of america
 
The thing is... Russia needs oil to be $100/barrel to break even with government outgoings. It accounts for >50% of the Russian economy.
 
@Squiggle Well shit.
 
12:26 PM
they're hemorrhaging cash to prop up a failing economy
 
GL america I'm going in my bunker.
 
hehe
 
so yes. It's going to get interesting :D
 
I don't watch the news
Like ever.
 
anyhow. C# is great, isn't it?
 
12:28 PM
Yea, superb
Okay well routing through source on TFS in old project I found 5 different sets of credentials
And the most obscure one that would appear to have nothing to do with AD is actually the administrative one
Seems sensible.
I really hope this works on IIS now
Otherwise I have no fucking idea.
@Squiggle Publish is greyed out, any quick ideas?
Not running
Built and cleaned
Helps if you select the web project.
VS should point to any web projects by default for publishing to web, surely lol
 
Indeed.
 
WHY IS MY VISA NOT AUTHENTICATING ON AZURE >-(
I just got it today and it is supposed to work
 
Call your bank and ask if it's activated?
 
Welcome to #bankingsupport
 
Lloyds is pretty good tbh
Their website is shit but their iOS app is really neat
 
12:37 PM
Did you try turning your card off and on again?
 
^
 
Worked for me last time
 
BRB Have to go to the bank and how do you turn off your card?
 
I wonder if a neodymium magnet would fuck up a credit card
 
Not for online shopping
 
12:38 PM
There is that.
 
@MoonOwlPrince there should be a small switch on the back. You expose it by bending the card.
 
@Squiggle thank Heavens I am not 4 years old
 
;)
 
Trolling 4 year olds would be both hilarious and probably kinda sadistic.
4 hours ago, by Squiggle
Lol. Going through CVs is always fun.
This one guy professes over 8 years experience in Sharepoint 2010/2013.
@Squiggle At least you read them.
The people who send me unsolicited email claiming to have read my CV would be the ones asking for 8 years exp in Sharepoint 2010/13
 
But how is that even possible
No one I know would spend their life specialising in SharePoint
 
12:43 PM
They say academics have less than average common sense.
@MoonOwlPrince I know a bunch of people who have chosen to specialise in it.
It's a demanded skill.
 
Those people should just become web developers as well simply because marketing guys are annoying when they use WordPress and then fail to get e-commerce on their site due to security issues and now bloat their customers with unnecessary software
 
@MoonOwlPrince ?
 
People wanted an online store. This CMS marketing guy installed WordPress and the business spent four months paying while nothing was being done at all. When they hired a Java developer their store was up and running in a month
He basically rewrote everything
 
@MoonOwlPrince I think this is basically the reason why I'd advocate hiring a technical adviser in any business that requires any kind of technical implementation
Cos you can reel off a bunch of stupid fucking keywords that make no contextual sense and an end user will think you know what you're talking about.
 
But why do people use WordPress if they know there are security issues with it?
 
12:51 PM
The probability that you will hire an idiot as a technical adviser is low, because the way you'd hire them is to find the guy who can explain everything to you in his own way, and a way that an end user will understand.
Why do people use WordPress at all ...
Fantastic for what it was actually made for, not sure why people use it for anything other than blogs.
 
Exactly
WordPress is blogging software no different from Blogspot or Medium
Example A: http://puaone.com/
That is a friend of mine's site. Basically, we have a group of heterosexual men and bisexual women who focus on dating. It is a Skype group. He did the site in WordPress and when I joined him I was like wtf are you using WordPress. I then suggested we use ASP.NET/MVC and he said it took too much work to do stuff the last time he used ASP in class for an example. I was dumbfounded
Doesn't it just look like ANOTHER weblog?
He got security reports and he doesn't want to ditch his Joomlas and WordPresses
 

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