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Q: Remove the limitation that stops comments from starting with +1 or -1

MikeI recently realized that a new limitation has been introduced to comments that prevents us from starting with +1 or -1 (or at least it's somewhat new -- earliest mention I can find is a post from November 2014). You get the below message: I disagree with this for many reasons, all which appear...

 
@AndersLindén: Well, you are communicating, so you must consider your audience. If you think that what you say is only your business then, well, why are you saying it out loud?
@Anders: Okay.​
How on earth is this status-completed?? The question asks for the limitation to be removed, and (from what I've seen today) you made it stricter!!! Ok, so you relieved the restriction for really long comments, but c'mon...
 
You just wrote a much longer comment complaining about this than you did to even encounter it, @Lightness. 120 characters is shorter than Twitter, which is 99% crap - if you can't even beat twitter, you're doing it wrong.
 
@Shog: So now you're encouraging me to write 120 characters of crap? And berating me when I fail to (read: decide not to not) do so? Sure, that's responsible. I thought brevity was a good thing? But, sure, instead of "+1" we can write "I believe this post has problems (and the downvote you're asking about was mine for that reason) and I shall enumerate them now". A good use of everybody's time. Indeed I have better things to do, and you may feel like making me not post this content is a "win", but in fact the only winner is you and the loser is the OP.
 
You know I can see all your comments, right @Lightness? So I know for a fact that what you just typed here bears no resemblance to the nonsense you were typing in comments on Stack Overflow 20 minutes - 1 hour ago? But hey, go on with your posturing if you're having fun - just be aware I know you're full of it.
 
@Shog9: First of all why the heck are you being so rude? "I know you're full of it" is absolutely no way for a moderator and community manager to behave. Or any grown person, frankly. Second, I'm not sure which comments you're referring to. The test comments? What about them? How do they make me "full of it"? I was using them to test the execution of a userscript as I developed it. If chat comments, so what? Transcript is public, no surprise.
 
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Rude, @Lightness? You're posting arguments that have no bearing on reality (fake comments that you didn't write) and misrepresent how this actually affects you (little to not at all). If you're so interested in this, do some analysis yourself & write up your own answer. But blatant lies aren't furthering this discussion, and getting all indignant about it when you're called on it is beneath you.
 
@Shog9: I'm sorry but I honestly have literally no idea what you're talking about. "Fake comments"? What "fake comments"? I haven't made any "blatant lies". What "lies" are those? Besides your baseless accusations (calling people "all indignant" is also not nice; aren't absurd personal attacks the sort of behaviour that moderators and SE employees are supposed to discourage?) perhaps we should just stick to the topic? Which is that you marked this feature-request as status-completed when it's not status-completed.
 
Because for all intents and purposes, it is @Lightness - baring a reasonable argument for changing this further, it's as completed as it's going to get. The fact that you can engineer a comment which gets blocked means nothing; nothing more than that you've now spent an inordinate amount of time working around something that didn't affect you in the first place. I guess so you could post something here? No idea.
 
@Shog9: The test comments were mostly for a completely different issue. If you'd bothered to talk to me about it instead of jumping straight to blasting me personally with righteous indignation then perhaps I could have straightened that out for you. I don't understand how you feel qualified to decide what does and does not affect me; how do you know what I do and do not care about and why? As for "it's as completed as it's going to get" look that's fine it's your choice and I know you've made up your mind... but this f.req. was declined! "So you could post something here" Just wtf, man.
 
A completely different issue, @Lightness? So... Then you admit your original comment was inaccurate, that you've not encountered this block since I marked this status-completed except when posting test comments for something unrelated? Glad we're on the same page, finally. You could've just said that originally though...
 
@Shog9: Is that what all this was about? So I am "indignant" and "a blatant liar" and deserve all of this abuse because when I said that it was "from what I've seen today" that I noticed the filter was stricter, it so happens that those times I saw it it was through test comments? Are you actually serious? I never claimed that it was through "normal use" that I noticed the changes!! And it's taken you until now to bother informing me what it is what you were even talking about with all of that abuse. Sigh. To conclude: nothing about my comment was "inaccurate"... nothing.
 
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...except for the bit where you said this wasn't completed. It's ok, @Lightness - I know from experience that it's very hard for you to admit when you're wrong. But I accept your apology.
 
@Shog9: It's not completed. Mike asked for the restriction to be removed. You made it stricter, then slapped "status-completed" on it. I'm not the one lying, I'm not the one being wrong, and I'm certainly not the one apologising. I acknowledge that you added a condition whereby the block is lifted on sufficiently-long comments and in terms of that I thank you for your work. I dispute that it makes this feature request in any way "completed", though. That's all. Perhaps in your next comment you could talk with me about that rather than continuing to act in this way? That would be nice.
 
Here's a thought, @Lightness: if you want to criticize my change, start by coming up with real examples where it fails to allow something useful. I read your complaint, looked at your account, and This is what I saw. You're claiming that didn't motivate your comment - but for all of your posturing, you've yet to show me a real reply to a real post that was actually restricted. You want me to take you seriously? Then knock off the "oh my delicate sensibilities have been offended by comments", stop making stuff up and show me a real problem.
 

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