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12:12 AM
@NobodyNada test
more test
@NobodyNada test
another test
 
12:26 AM
Potentially bad post: Test filter: Apache QPID and Websphere Integration
Potentially bad post: (Test filter)NameError: wrong constant name
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Potentially bad post (Test filter): How to accomplish the following using SQL commands?
Potentially bad post (Test filter): String.replaceAll() and \n line breaks
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Potentially bad post (Test filter): External loading of code in a div that has been cloned
Potentially bad post (Test filter): Fatal error: Unable to find Gruntfile
Potentially bad post (Test filter): Python List Comprehension for a list with lists
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Potentially bad post (Test filter): WebRTC DataChannel: working in Firefox but not Chrome
Potentially bad post (Test filter): How can I get WebDev on Magnolia admin central
Potentially bad post (Test filter): Rails assets compile application.js file on Heroku
Potentially bad post (Test filter): browser.click() does not work in redactor buttons
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Potentially bad post (Test filter): How to manage files upload by users?
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Potentially bad post (Test filter): How to create grid style qlistwidget
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@Bot stop
@NobodyNada Shutting down...
Potentially bad post (Test filter): Deploy laravel hostgator VHM
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Well, I've posted so many consecutive messages I'm finally having problems with the rate limiting
 
1:09 AM
<a message>
 
Thanks @Kevin
 
@NobodyNada No problem - but where's the output of your bot?
 
1:29 AM
meaningless message posted
more to follow. I am good at mm's
 
1:47 AM
@KevinGuan It's running on my account, so it's the "Potentially bad post" reports. You can see the code at github.com/NobodyNada/chatbot (although that's not the latest code; I need to push and will do that in a bit.)
 
 
1 hour later…
2:51 AM
morning
 
@NobodyNada Cool
 
@NobodyNada I see you've implemented the filter. Thanks. So what's the hit rate?
Hiya @KevinGuan
@NobodyNada So what's the threshold the post has to cross to be detected as a bad post?
 
3:10 AM
@AshishAhujaツ o/
 
\o
@NobodyNada I just found another filter with quite good hit rate
It sees the length
In the top 5000 questions posted, 1300 questions have been closed with that filter
that means 26%
Here is the filter
If the length is smaller than 100, and the title and body does not have a question mark.
Let me try some more things
I'll keep you updated
 
3:28 AM
@AshishAhujaツ I haven't implemented any of our proposed filters yet; I just built the engine to run the filters. Also, I haven't implemented a threshold yet.
Good morning!
 
@NobodyNada Okay.
So how do you think the filter I proposed above would work?
 
I think I'll import the from the GitHub page into the program right now. I'll do that filter once I get these ones running.
Also, we need to setup a Stack Exchange API auth key. I think I'll register for one right now.
 
Also, we should come up with a name for the chatbot and create an account for it, and suggest edits to get 20 rep.
 
@NobodyNada I can do that
 
3:32 AM
Thanks!
 
But what should be the name of the bot?
 
I'm not sure. It's purpose is to find low-quality posts, if that helps think of a name.
Also, I just realized we need a name before we register for a API key
 
@NobodyNada LQP? I thought we were even detecting questions that need closing?
For now I'll create an account, and we can always change the name.
Should we ask in SOCVR for an idea for the name?
I'll come back in few minutes
bye
I'm back
 
3:51 AM
@AshishAhujaツ Yeah, that's the main purpose so far. I guess the goal is to detect "bad" questions.
Hello
 
Okay
So do you have to go to bed, or have few minutes to chat?
 
I have a few minutes
 
okay
I thought of the body length filters, and using queries, I've found out that they are quite successful
One query which I linked to you earlier and
So do you think it's gonna be a good idea to implement this system?
which checks body length
 
I think so. I'm going to start implementing filters, then I'll have it post everything that matches a filter, and then we can tune thresholds.
 
Thanks
I'll make the account today for the bot
 
3:56 AM
Before you do that, we should probably work some of the logistics about it.
 
First of all, what are we going to run the bot on?
 
Umm... I don't exactly know
 
Should we ask Sam/Undo/someone else who has a bot what they do?
 
Yeah. I think we should ask them. They have quite a lot of bot experience
 
4:00 AM
Who should we ping?
 
Lemme see who's active right now
 
neither of them are in SOCVR
 
Let me check in other rooms. Undo was active just some time ago in CharCoal
 
Sam's from the UK, so it's 4 AM there, and Undo is from California if I remember correctly (so he's in the same time zone as me, where it's 9:00)
 
I think hichris and sandwich are active in CharCoal. They haven't exactly created a bot, but have helped a lot with smokey's handling
 
4:03 AM
Right.
I can ask Sam tomorrow in SOCVR
 
Or should we ask hichris and sandwich?
Smokey in CharCoal runs on hichris's server, so he might know
 
yeah, they probably know where Smokey is hosted
 
So should we ask them? Or should I just ask Sam or Undo when they come active
 
I can ask Sam
 
Okay
So should I go forward creating the bot's account?
 
4:09 AM
Not yet; I think the one of us who we decide will be in charge of hosting will create it
 
Okay
sandwich just came active. Should we ask him?
 
you can
 
I have to go really soon
 
4:25 AM
@NobodyNada Till now we have had two filters, both for detecting bad questions that need closing. I'm going to think of more filters but
Is the bot even going to detect NAA/VLQ?
 
Probably eventually.
 
So should I even work on the filters needed for NAA/VLQ? Or for now, just focus on questions>
 
Just questions for now. Thank you so much for helping! I'm going to go to bed now.
 
Goodnight!
See you tomorrow.
 
 
4 hours later…
8:17 AM
hello
 
9:10 AM
Hiya @Sam
Any testing you have to do?
 
Sam
Hiya
Nope
I don't have anything planned
 
@Sam Do you have few minutes?
I had a question
 
Sam
Sure
 
Um, well. Me and Nobody are making the bot as you know
 
Sam
Yeah?
 
9:11 AM
So today, we came across a question
So what should we run the bot on? We both had absolutely no idea
 
Sam
You mean, you don't have a bot account to run the program under?
 
@Sam We're going to make one. Till now Nobody was just running it in his account
 
Sam
Okay
So what's your question then?
(I don't quite follow.)
 
I meant what should we run the bot on?
Nobody asked me in the morning and I had absolutely no idea
 
Sam
Oh, as in, where the bot will run?
You don't have a server I guess?
 
9:16 AM
No. At least I don't
have a server
I don't think Nobody has a server either
 
Sam
Can the bot run on Ubuntu?
 
@Sam It was written in Mac, but hasn't used any mac specific libraries, so I think yes
 
Sam
Okay
 
I'm currently on a Ubuntu Laptop if it helps
 
Sam
Well if the bot isn't a resource hog, I'd offer to host it for you guys.
@AshishAhujaツ Are you able to run it on your laptop?
 
9:18 AM
@Sam I haven't tried that till now
 
Sam
Ok
 
But it mostly will run as Nobody told me that it isn't using any OS specific libs
I don't think the bot is a resource hog. But we haven't completed it yet, so I'm not sure
 
Sam
Is the code on GH?
 
@Sam yes. But it's not the latest and completed
I'll give you the link.
 
Sam
Thanks
 
9:21 AM
So what do you think we should do?
 
Sam
You have 3 options: I can host the bot for you, you can ask somebody else, or, you can buy your own VPS or some amazon instance.
 
Okay
I don't know what to do right now. I still have to ask Nobody to confirm what we should do, but thanks.
 
Sam
Sure, just talk it over with him.
 
Thanks. That clears everything.
 
Sam
Actually, there is a forth option.
 
9:26 AM
What's that?
 
Sam
If you have an old PC laying around, you could try running the bot on that.
 
@Sam I have a laptop which I don't use anymore, but that's Windows.
 
Sam
If the bot's cross-platform, your laptop's OS shouldn't matter.
 
Hmm.. But the latop I had is just intel i3. So will the bot be able to run easily on that without giving less performance?
And that's Dual-core only
 
Sam
I doubt it'll be much of a problem tbh.
 
9:30 AM
Okay
 
Sam
(I don't know how resource hungry the bot is though.)
You'll probably want to profile it.
 
Sam
But don't start optimising the bot before you've finished it.
 
But you know this bot is using libs specific to Linux. So I don't think it'll work on windows. I think I'll just divide my hard drive and install Ubuntu on it
Will that reduce performance in any way?
@Sam Okay
 
Sam
@AshishAhujaツ I have no clue what the bot is using.
@AshishAhujaツ Not really.
 
9:33 AM
Okay
So I'll even ask Nobody about this forth option.
Thanks for helping!
 
Sam
Anytime :)
 
 
2 hours later…
11:11 AM
bye
 
Sam
Cya
 
 
4 hours later…
2:54 PM
Plop
 
Sam
Hiya
 
\o
Nobody will come active in some time. Then I'll ask him
 
Sam
Ok
 
3:06 PM
An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
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An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
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An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
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An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
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An error happened in UserTracking (cc @Sam)
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@Tunaki I'm shutting down...
 
Sam
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3:47 PM
@NobodyNada Just to keep you updated because I will go to sleep in some time
I talked to Sam and [he proposed a few ideas where we could run the bot](http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/30661931#30661931). There [is one more option](http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/30662025#306620250) also. If we are gonna do the forth option, I have a spare comp. So what do you think we should do?
 
4:25 PM
Night
Oh hi @NobodyNada
Any question?
I was just going to sleep
 
@AshishAhujaツ That would be really nice if Sam could host the bot!
 
It wouldn't work on your old laptop since you said it's Windows, and the bot uses UNIX APIs, so it will work on Mac and Linux.
 
Sam
@NobodyNada Just need to make sure it runs on Ubuntu. :)
Oh, great.
 
@Sam It should; I'll test it today.
 
4:27 PM
@NobodyNada Yeah.
 
Sam
Ok
 
@NobodyNada I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Should I test it, or you'll do it?
 
Thank you, Sam! That would be really nice f you to host it! (And don't worry; it's not a resource hog at all.)
 
Sam
No problem. (I just hope I don't screw up the bot's installation.)
 
@AshishAhujaツ I can test it on Debian. I might be able to test on Ubuntu today, but I'm not sure.
 
Sam
4:28 PM
Never worked with a C bot before.
 
@NobodyNada Okay. So I'm going to bed. Anything you need?
 
@Sam I'll make a makefile to compile it on Linux, and you can just run the executable.
@AshishAhujaツ I don't think so, thanks!
 
Sam
@NobodyNada Excellent, thanks!
 
Okay.
G'night!
 
Sam
Night!
 
4:33 PM
Night @Ashish
 
Sam
afk
 
 
6 hours later…
10:32 PM
It's running now
Potentially bad post (print, how to, can): Not Able to Turn Off Hiking Trails Layer in Google Maps (likelyhood 3000)
@Bot fp
Potentially bad post (can): Reading wieghted graph using python igraph from adjacency matrix (likelyhood 2000)
Potentially bad post (can): Initialize value of a checkbox from servlet (likelyhood 2000)
Now that I marked that one it as a false positive, it should decrease the weight of it's filters:
@Bot check post 37352765
Potentially bad post (print, how to, can): Not Able to Turn Off Hiking Trails Layer in Google Maps (likelyhood 6000)
no; it doubled their weight
Potentially bad post (how to): Rotating div with css (likelyhood 2000)
alright, fixed the bug
Potentially bad post (answer, can): icons gone in text field when form auto filled (likelyhood 1875)
Right now, the filters have so much weight it will report everything that passes a single filter. THat's why we need to train it.
Potentially bad post (exam, can, will): Extensible type traits in C++ (likelyhood 2875)
Potentially bad post (print, how to, can): Not Able to Turn Off Hiking Trails Layer in Google Maps (likelyhood 2638)
@Bot fp
Eventually, it's not supposed to report posts that pass any filters; it will report posts that pass enough filters.
Potentially bad post (telephone, good, possible, keyboard, exam, can, will): White Screen on Ionic 2 App (likelyhood 6777)
@Bot fp
Potentially bad post (radio, keyboard): Cordova phonegap issue when hiding keyboard? (likelyhood 1875)
@Bot tp
no MCVE
Potentially bad post (answer, help, exam, can): Using HTACCESS to redirect to specific page if Query in URL does not exist (likelyhood 3575)
 
Does it detect bad posts based on a bag of words?
 
@Bot fp
@Thaillie Yes, pretty much.
Potentially bad post (algo, exam): pytest exits with no error but with &quot;collected 0 items&quot; (likelyhood 1777)
@Bot fp
Potentially bad post (good, thanks, how to): drupal calendar display the color in view year (likelyhood 2665)
@Bot tp
 
10:50 PM
@NobodyNada What is the likelyhood needed to print a message?
 
Right now, it's 1000.
 
You know that is exactly what I thought in my head?
 
The weight of each filter is (truePositives / total) * 1000
So one filter that has a record 100% true positives will trigger it on its own.
Potentially bad post (to start, help): [How to set Environment variables from within package.json [Node.js]](stackoverflow.com/q/25112510) (likelihood 2000)
I have to go now; I'll shut down the bot. I might be back tonight.
@Bot stop
 

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