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12:08 AM
the error is quite clear @M.Jones
you're trying to call .key on a function
this usually means that you're missing a function call, so instead of func().key you wrote func.key by mistake
didn't you forget to return tree from print_tree?
(a) tree_to_list(print_tree) calls your function on print_tree, the function, rather than print_tree(), and even if you wrote it correctly, (b) you forgot the return in the latter, so print_tree() is None, so nothing of interest will happen, due to the early return from tree_to_list @M.Jones
what you have right now is a buggy construction of None;)
 
12:41 AM
def test_tree(tree):
        if tree != None:
            test_tree(tree.get_left_subtree())
            print(tree.get_value())
            test_tree(tree.get_right_subtree())

def print_tree():
    tree = RefBinaryTree(2)
    tree.insert_left(31)
    tree.insert_right(5)
    right = tree.get_right_subtree()
    left = tree.get_left_subtree()
    left.insert_left(27)
    right.insert_right(1)
    right2 = right.get_right_subtree()
    right2.insert_left(7)
    print(tree)
thats orignally what it does it creates the tree and my function creats the list
so that means im calling it wrong when i try to run it ?? how would I call it instead ?
 
read what I wrote above, I have nothing to add
also, I'm going to sleep
rhubarb
 
alright thanks !
 
1:13 AM
i found what I was doing wrong -.- so silly
 
1:38 AM
cbg all
 
1:59 AM
My code above currently prints it out like this 2
31
5
27
1
7 is there a way to print it including None and it looks like this : [2, 31, 5, 27, None, None, 1, None, None, None, None, None, None, 7, None]
 
if you mean print_tree() prints it like that, just drop the print add a return and append the returned value to a list which you print at the end of the calculations
if you mean test_tree() remove the if tree != None and just switch the print to return the current value (you'd have to have stored it so you can change the subtree and honestly at this point I'd move to a generator and yield)
 
tree_to_list is printing it like that sorry about the confusion
the one above the latest code
 
also I would use if tree is not None: as per PEP 8
 
is this for the tree_to_list function ?
 
its anywhere your checking to see if something is not None (versus if it even exists where I would use if tree:)
 
2:13 AM
okay i see :)
at the moment my tree_to_list is printing this 2
31
5
27
1
7
how would i make it print that [2, 31, 5, 27, None, None, 1, None, None, None, None, None, None, 7, None]
also when i add if tree is not None : into my tree_to_list funciton. It no longer prints out that function :/
 
what I just said: don't print within the function return or yield a value, append that to a list, print the list once finished.
where would you have added that? Your tree_to_list function already had it set right. It was wrong in your test_tree() function (was using not equal operator)
 
def tree_to_list(tree):
# Base Case
if tree is None:
return None

# Create an empty queue for level order traversal
queue = []

# Enqueue Root and initialize height
queue.append(tree)

while(len(queue) > 0):
# Print front of queue and remove it from queue
print (queue[0].key)
node = queue.pop(0)

#Enqueue left child
if node.left is not None:
queue.append(node.left)

# Enqueue right child
if node.right is not None:
queue.append(node.right)
return queue like so ? return the list
@JGreenwell this is my main function btw def main():
print_tree()
tree = RefBinaryTree(2)
tree.insert_left(31)
tree.insert_right(5)
right = tree.get_right_subtree()
left = tree.get_left_subtree()
left.insert_left(27)
right.insert_right(1)
right2 = right.get_right_subtree()
right2.insert_left(7)
tree_to_list(tree)
 
progress logically through your program. You print the current queue only (do not return it) which means that it will print each one separately. To print them all at once you need to retain the value in a structure (list) and then print them out all at once on completion. The not printing 'None' is due to the fact that you are constantly checking if it is 'None' and then ignoring it if it is (these values would also have to be added to the list for printing on completion)
currently your combining your call logic (the stuff in the main) with your class logic and that seems to be muddling it for you. So I would suggest starting with creating the list (either with an append within your tree build or by returning the current value at the start and appending within main) and then moving to looking at how to include None types
 
2:29 AM
oh dang i thought i was close haha thanks for the help ill try see what i can do
 
3:04 AM
Okay, are python dictionary hash collisions possible in something like: my_dictionary[long_filename]=A.copy()
 
 
2 hours later…
4:54 AM
@Mikhail Hash collisions are always posible unless it is a perfect hash. See this article for talk about Python's hash implementation: laurentluce.com/posts/python-dictionary-implementation
 
A good hash function minimizes the number of collisions e.g. different keys having the same hash. Python does not have this kind of hash function.
LOL
Okay, but it can't ever happen that a two keys in a dictionary go to the same object? Even if they collide, python is able to handle that?
 
5:16 AM
Cabbage
@Mikhail - pardon my barging in, but just noticed your last question. There is no rule against two keys in a dict pointing to the same object, and is probably fairly common.
{"0": int, "1": int, "A": str, "B": str} has 2 keys that point to the int type and 2 other keys that point to the str type.
 
What I'm worried about is two different strings leading to the same index, which would mess up my cache.
 
"index" meaning what?
Is the index the value that you are attaching to these strings?
in the dict?
 
Yep, so my_dict['some_string']=a and my_dict['some_other_string']=b could actually overwrite a, or in my case my_dict['some_string'] and my_dict['some_other_string'] point to the same numpy array.
 
I don't know what the hash function is for strings, but I have never seen an issue like this
Unless I explicitly inserted both of those different strings as keys into the dict, and used the same numpy array as the associated value for both.
 
Yeah, although in my case I call cache[my_string]=np.copy(a), so I don't think that can happen.
 
5:32 AM
cbg
@Mikhail couldn't
@Mikhail what makes you think that's even possible?
 
bugs in my code :-)
I don't write bugs so it must be Python!
 
I mean:
my_dict['some_string']=a and my_dict['some_other_string']=b
no chance the latter would overwrite the former
only if a is b
but you can make a string subclass that b0rks hashing
 
Well, if hash(first_string) == hash(second_string) - right.
What you just said
 
Yeah, so if hash() does something annoying like truncating the first 256 characters...
 
5:37 AM
Like doing a hash(self.lower())
 
@Mikhail hashing is used for slotting
if 2 objects fall into the same slot, __eq__ is used then
 
Hmm, I never delved that deep into the dict internals
 
they're not internals
they're essential knowledge
if you're going to use a custom class as a key
 
Good tip
 
5:49 AM
@Mikhail - I think this means you will have to revisit your own code, as it looks like the use of strings as Python dict keys is unlikely to be the source of your problem
 
yeah :-/
 
6:12 AM
@Mikhail do understand that almost all user objects have __dict__
 
6:45 AM
Hash collisions are part of how the data structure works. Read about this issue in a data structures textbook such as "Introduction to Algorithms". In general the user of the hash should not even be able to observe that hash collisions are occurring. However if they happen a lot, the user can do timings and probably observe suboptimal performance.
 
Okay, another question about python. So, I'm using multiprocessing and I i'm putting a numpy array object onto a mp.queue. My understanding is that the numpy array reference counted container is copied by python (via pickle) and the actual pointed memory location can be copied-on-write by the OS. Or is the whole thing just deep copied including wherever the numpy array is storing its data?
 
7:04 AM
@Brandin and "suboptimal" might mean DoS
 
Okay I guess it does a full deep copy of the data...
 
@Mikhail Couldn't you just look at the output of pickle and see if it contains any information about memory locations? I kind of doubt it.
 
Yeah, although all python variables are reference counted :-)
 
7:25 AM
@Mikhail incorrect
all current CPython variables are reference-counted
 
@AnttiHaapala What is the difference? I think CPython is just the name of the official python interpreter/implementation
 
Whats the difference?
 
CPython isn't more "official" than other versions.
It's just the most popular.
 
Okay, what isn't reference counted?
 
7:43 AM
CPython is the reference implementation yes,
however its documentation says the CPython reference counting is an implementation detail that is not to be relied on
that's why you need to use with statement to actually close a file in Python when the scope is exited
relying on some reference counting mechanism is wrong.
Hmm... "endlösung" in Finland :D
Microsoft reportedly transporting WP people in buses from 1 site to city of Espoo
for "briefing"
 
@AnttiHaapala This isn't really clear, my understanding is that you need the with statement because the gc isn't called immediately. Same issue in Java.
 
no, you need the with because there is no guarantee that the GC is ever called.
 
Yeah, sure, but I'm not sure what this has to do with some type not having reference counting? Eventually the gc will find that the object has no references and will delete it.
 
no
there is absolutely no guarantee that "eventually gc will find and delete the object"
on the contrary
 
Okay, because the program can terminate. I can live with this, BUT somewhere deep in python there is a still a reference count for everything.
 
7:50 AM
furthermore when it finds the object for deletion
no, there is no reference count for everything either.
only in some implementations
and even if the program can terminate there is no guarantee that the GC can reclaim the garbage
 
cabbage
 
I can live with early termination killing the gc, and maybe some implementations can optimize out the references (idk, compiling into .net), but I can't find a type of object that behaves as if there isn't a reference count.
 
"early termination"
this also applies to a program that never terminates.
 
and also Java :-)
 
8:45 AM
cabbage
@AnttiHaapala "and even if the program can terminate there is no guarantee that the GC can reclaim the garbage" --> did I misunderstand, or are you saying that there can be lost resources even after the program has terminated?
 
Not that I was Antti, but that should mean that on termination resources can be freed without GC participation.
that is, not all __del__s are guaranteed to be called.
 
9:44 AM
morning cbg
 
10:04 AM
ok just out
microsoft lays off 1350 WP staff in Finland
stops designing, manufacturing phones
 
Wow.
 
about time.
 
I like WP. But I realise I am the only one.
 
sells Nokia MP legacy to Foxconn
what this really means is that windows will not be there in all devices any more
microsoft tries to embrace, extend and extinguish macos desktop now
 
Software or hardware layoffs? Or both?
 
10:08 AM
both
strategy change
pretty much all staff still remaining in Finland related to mobile business
 
I was wondering whether they'd just planned to drop hardware and put the OS on other manufacturers, but yeah makes sense.
 
dunno what they will be left with
probably still have some WP for some time
The OS wasn't being developed in Finland as such
it might just be they'd make an x86 smartphone
"CEO Satya Nadella insists that the company is still working in the phone space, but in a much narrower way, saying "We are focusing our phone efforts where we have differentiation—with enterprises that value security, manageability and our Continuum capability, and consumers who value the same.""
 
I think it's hardware more; they seem to be more committed to software
I just like my work phone which is an £80 4G WP job - got removable battery and SD card, but it's not obvious the back is removable to look at it, it's got free worldwide offline satnav, and all the usual stuff. Missing some apps I don't use. I don't know why their strategy isn't just saying to people "seriously, why are you spending £500 on a phone still?"
 
10:25 AM
I'm thinking of leaving Android to go for iPhone SE at the end of the year.
 
cabbage
 
@Ffisegydd so your answer would be, "because I hate money" :)
 
Having just gone the other way, I can't see me ever going back tbh
My phone's 1/3 the cost of an iphone 6s (1/2 the cost of my iphone 5C) and 95% as good.
 
@RobertGrant so you basically love your phone for it being Nokia hardware, and the complimentary Nokia software, not for it being WP at all.
 
Well I've always had Android because I like to have a phone that I can modify and mess around with, that I can do whatever I want with, etc. And you know what? I never modify it. I never mess around with it.
I just want a phone that can access the internet and emails.
 
10:28 AM
Ironically, I went to great effort to jailbreak my iphone
 
One thing I've noticed lately is that it's difficult to get a small form phone that has high quality specs.
 
having a rooted Android, I never use it.
:D
 
A lot of Android phones are massive nowadays, but the iPhone SE has the same specs as the 6 but has the small form factor.
 
@Ffisegydd YES. I have a OnePlus One and it's bloody enormous
 
@Ffisegydd so true
 
10:29 AM
I am using Samsung Galaxy S4 mini
 
the stronger the hardware, the larger the frying pan
@AnttiHaapala me too \o/
 
I've got a HTC and it'd just massive and bulky.
 
probably not rugged enough
I drop it once a week...
 
I quite liked my Motorola Moto G.
Small, but it was sloowwwwwwww.
 
@AnttiHaapala if it drops service for "emergency calls only" mode intermittently, let me know, I know of a great app;D
 
10:29 AM
I'm gonna get a Motorola Razr and be cool.
 
My bulky phone is made bulkier by the Survivor toughcase I have on it...
Can I still get a flipphone?
 
@AnttiHaapala honestly not a cheerleader for brands
 
SmartFlipPhone.
 
Very sad for the people involved in all this
 
@RobertGrant you told the reason why you like your Windows phone, but all those things you listed were acquired from nokia
and none are from microsoft itself.
 
10:31 AM
I thought it was a given that whatever MS touches, withers and turns to dust *runs away*
 
so now that they stopped doing the devices,
 
but seriously, skype's been incomparably sucky since MS took over
 
it means they essentially stopped doing that :d
@AndrasDeak no sh*t sherlock :D
and the "do you have skype" - "yes"
"NO NOT THAT LYNC SH*T"
 
well I never know which of my primal prejudices against MS are actually founded and agreed on by others
 
@AndrasDeak all of them?
 
10:33 AM
You can't believe how much I'd love that to be the case:D
 
@AnttiHaapala it's called a WP, I wasn't emphasising that it was Windows particularly. They're called WP, which is why no-one berated you when you said
> microsoft lays off 1350 WP staff in Finland
 
@RobertGrant my point is that you're saying "you liked WP"
but my point is that you didn't like WP, you listed things that are particular of Nokia HW, so you liked the phones developed in Finland.
WP as such might not be completely dead, but the kind of device that you like, RIP.
 
I only wish that the 5110 would run angry birds
 
Yes okay I liked WPs developed in Finland :) I'm sure someone outside of that country will start making phones with removable backs soon, though
 
I'm misunderstanding you, surely. You don't mean that no other phones have removable backs, right?
or are you being sarcastic, only way over my head?
 
10:45 AM
I'm saying the properties of those phones, while a good mixture, weren't unique to Finland
 
OK, the latter then:D
 
@RobertGrant You mean built in anti-icing and a coffee machine?
 
@RobertGrant my point is you do not give shit to Windows or Microsoft
so you're not crazy
if you were given the surface phone £799.95, you wouldn't like it, if that was your criteria
 
Well I quite like the UI as well for WP
 
then surely someone else will start making phones with that interface, right? :D
I would have liked if nokia went android instead
I could still be using Nokia branded phones, with Nokia HW.
 
10:54 AM
now all that's left is Nokia toilet paper, right?:(
 
Nokia-Alcatel is a big name in networks
 
I mean personally, for you:P
 
for me, Nokia is the Nokian rubber boots :D
 
ah, very hip nowadays:P
do you farm a lot?:D
 
I like Nokia because it can never be Finnished
 
11:01 AM
or just melting snow?
 
we do have a 100 m² plot with my wife for mainly herbs :D
 
Herbs? Or 'herbs'? ;)
Also, your garden is bigger than my apartment.
 
@Withnail I was thinking that perhaps I should add a clarification
 
heh
 
it is actually not my land, it is even better, I rent it from the city for 20 €/year, they do the ploughing with machines
 
11:05 AM
@AnttiHaapala they do already
 
I mean besides WP
 
nice
 
@AnttiHaapala oh nice
 
I've just rebuilt a server. Same specs, same OS, etc. Copied the database across (see comments passim); postgresql times out on even straightforward queries from django on the new one (even just stuff.objects.all().count(), for example) with an OperationalError.
 
BOOM. On-topicness. You never know when it strikes.
 
11:08 AM
Queries work in psql on the new server, and both psql and django on the old server. What am I missing?
(Ha, sorry :-D )
 
@AndrasDeak though now the city has been planning to turn that area into parking lots, for an amusement park with such a briandead idea that it is sure to fail
 
morning everyone
 
@Withnail what we are missing is full error traceback
along with the actual error message
@corvid morning
 
here's an example from just running a conn.cursor() query
but the DB is there, and I can use psql to run queries as normal, so it's running, but presumably timing out/falling over somehow?
 
@AnttiHaapala will it fail in time, before any work begins?
or will they screw up the land only to make no use of it afterwards?
 
11:12 AM
yes.
the latter one ofc.
 
this is Finland
or Oulu
 
yeah, I'm not familiar with how things go there
 
they probably say that "it is imperative that that area be levelled for the construction workers to park their cars there"
@AndrasDeak same as anywhere else I think
 
if it was Hungary, that parcel would've been sold in recent years to one of the buddies of the government, who don't do anything with the land but get a buttload of subsidies
while killing off actual farmers and shepherds
 
11:16 AM
in finland you do not buy
you are given it free
for the promise of some tax income :D
 
My question above - more appropriate for SO or Dba? It's manifesting through django, but I hazard it's a setting I haven't tweaked in Postgres.
 
@Withnail you didn't enable TCP socket.
closing as "non-reproduceable"
 
it has a duplicate.
@Withnail or your db is in another port
(psql is configured to use that then)
@Withnail which OS?
 
hm, netstat suggests its' there. Debian.
 
11:20 AM
no it is not there.
the connection is failing
you see the unix socket
 
oh, interesting - it's showing as there from postgres user, not from the user i'm running shell with. goes to investigate
 
@Withnail alternatviely you can use the unix socket with psycopg2
4
Q: Postgresql and django - Unix domain socket

user1407540i spend couple of hours to solve these problem but did not reach anything. There are several topics about this problem on the net but none of them says an absolute thing to solve this. I just installed postgresql in order to use it on my django project. DATABASES = { "default": { "E...

 
Thanks, will have a look. :)
 
11:45 AM
same error, I can see the socket though. :(
 
@Withnail <insert NSFW image about eyes gouged out>
 
pretty much.
need moar coffee
 
agreed
 
12:04 PM
Cbg
 
Cabbage @pro
Howz the Pug life?
 
I may or may not have a "Pug life" shirt...
But I'm doing alright. How about you?
 
12:24 PM
In django settings.py file I have defined two TEMPLATE englines, django and jinji2. How do I tell my view/app which one I am using?
 
@Withnail anw, this is a common case of PEBKAC error
 
>:(
 
@DannyCullen "While uncommon, it’s possible to configure several instances of the same backend with different options. In that case you should define a unique NAME for each engine."
shitty docs
@DannyCullen it seems you need to select the engine using using='namegoeshere' everywhere?
or perhaps it is path-based
whichever engine has thus-named template in its path, will be used
ofc you'd never configure the same path for both engines, right?
 
I only have single backends on both machines. They're single purpose boxes only running this.
 
@Programmer Pug life's always better than hooman life ;)
I am doing fine too, Thanks
 
1:00 PM
Morning cabbage.
 
cabbage @morg
 
@BhargavRao I didn't realise you were Ferengi! :p
 
cbg @jon, Haven't seen ya from many days! How ya been?
(and my secret that I was a "ferengi" is out in public)
 
@BhargavRao busy...
 
@Morgan RAGE!
 
1:04 PM
@Ffisegydd Wat?
 
@Ffisegydd Oh, yeah, I got the email this morning.
 
Only just checked emails.
 
It's weird, I can't repro it now either. I haven't had issues with it recently.
Wait, nope, just got it to break!
 
warning: CRLF will be replaced by LF in app/images/replenish/open-cabinet.svg.... huh? This is a git add warning
 
1:07 PM
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
And once it breaks, it takes everything down with it.
 
@corvid You can turn it off.
 
@corvid yeah it normalilses line endings
 
You can turn off the warning but still have the normalisation.
 
It doesn't actually matter, right?
 
Can do.
 
1:10 PM
@MorganThrapp Keep the table back, :(
 
silly CR in the code of other people is the worst
fortunately I don't code with other people:P
 
I had some unit tests for a library that failed on Windows vs Linux because of line endings.
The unit tests failed because they expected LF rather than CRLF.
(Not my library or tests)
 
One time I spent a week debugging my image reading program before I determined that not opening the file in binary mode meant that all the CR bytes were getting silently removed if they happened to appear before an LF byte.
Still my indisputable worst bug when measured by time spent / characters required to fix ratio.
 
yesterday I spent an hour fixing a function, then looking at the result of another function, and not understanding why nothing happened:(
(it was about scaling images so it wasn't clear that nothing was happening, only suspicious)
 
Scaling images, bah! Scale rock walls instead - it's way more fun!
 
1:18 PM
My problem had obvious wrong behavior, at least. Bytes mysteriously disappearing from bitmap data means that what used to be in the blue color channel is now in the red, and similar for the other two channels. And the image would gradually skew left as you move from the top row to the bottom.
And there would be floor(N/3) junk pixels at the end, where N is the number of missing bytes
 
Java abstracts it away with System.getProperty("lineseparator") or something, so you can split on that.
I wonder if Python has that
os.linesep!
 
How often do you need that, though? isn't that handled for you by default (assuming text mode)
 
I've used it like once a year
 
Looking for some group input on a new pyparsing feature. In the latest release, I added a namespace class pyparsing_common, containing common expression definitions (integer, real number, real number with scientific notation), and in the upcoming 2.1.5 I'm adding IPv4 and IPv6 addresses (long, short, and mixed forms), MAC address, ISO8601 date and datetime, and UUID. Suggestions for others?
 
@PaulMcGuire uri like urlsplit/urlparse
scheme://user:pass@host:port/p/a/t/h?query#fragment
And querystrings: a=b&a=c&d=1
 
1:31 PM
I learned recently that that is not really generic to all URI's. The geo scheme, for instance, does not follow this pattern at all. (no //, comma-separated path, ';' options delimiter)
 
@PaulMcGuire Long time no see - how're you doing?
 
OK, working on my consulting skills lately
Left the day job (or they left me) in January, have been doing contracting since
 
Sorry to hear about the former, but hopefully the later is working out well
 
this song is super good
 
Had a burst of pyparsing creativity lately, but I need to be careful that it doesn't get bloviated into unwieldiness
Thought I would broaden my db horizons, took the MongoDB online class and Dev Certification test. Turns out I wrote a SQL->pymongo query syntax converter a few years ago (using pyparsing, of course)
 
1:38 PM
Python error when passing numpy array as parameter is interesting yet hopelessly vague.
Reminds me of @bereal's riddle from yesterday. "how can these seemingly equivalent code blocks produce different output?"
 
"I the sphinx have written buggy code. Ye who debug it may enter."
 
@davidism - thanks for the suggestion, I was leery of including URI's (and emails too) as there is a lot of lurking variability outside of the everyday 90% cases, and I don't want these snippets to suck up too much support time.
 
@Kevin I'd wager more on user error, though
 
Yeah, my money is on "you're running both snippets consecutively, and whichever one executes second crashes because call has some kind of persistent state and freaks out when you call it more than once"
 
or just "in your first version you wrote nupy.array"
 
1:44 PM
@AndrasDeak "What int is 4 at initialization, 2 while running, and 3 when it returns?"
 
On the geo: scheme, I used it as an example at a talk I gave at the Austin Python Users group (ptmcg.com/files/pyparsing_talk_apug_2016May.pdf)
 
:)
I don't know the programming version of that one:P
but I'm sure it'll hurt
 
@inspectorG4dget isn't that the old riddle of what walks on 4 in the morning, 2 in the afternoon, then 3 in the evening?
 
that it is
but this is the debugging sphinx, so I had to upgrade the riddle
 
foo = []
def call(x):
    if foo:
        raise Exception
    foo.append(1)

call(list())

variable = list()
call(variable)
Tadaa
 
1:46 PM
I'm still waiting for the solution that has ints in it:P
 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\programming\python\scripts\test.py", line 10, in <module>
    call(variable)
  File "C:\programming\python\scripts\test.py", line 4, in call
    raise Exception
Exception
 
I'm still leaning towards "OP probably did something stupid"
that would conform with "OP didn't even specify the type of error"
 
So all calls to call after the first are doomed
 
Ok, I've had my fun theorycrafting.
 
@AndrasDeak the answer to the intquestion uses a decorator to overwrite the input parameter, and the return value. The inner function itself returns a 2. Need more coffee before I can actually write it up
 
1:49 PM
@AndrasDeak Yeah, OP not being able to express the problem clearly is a strong indication that he wasn't able to write code clearly either
 
@Kevin should've went with def(x,foo=[])
 
I thought about it.
 
@AndrasDeak - a classic
 
But then I stopped thinking about it.
 
@inspectorG4dget ah OK:D
 
1:50 PM
@PaulMcGuire Yeah, emails would have been a nightmare, I didn't realize uris weren't very standard either.
 
ooh another pun: what is the name of the Texas-based python group that goes by Austin**?
 
Good ol' Austin Splat Operators.
 
lol! Austin Powers (yeah baby!)
 
Half-baked riposte: something about Green Bay argument packers
 
@davidism - I probably could do an HTTP_url expression, that would only need to support your posted format (need to handle %nn character escapes too, yuk). Where's the Google Summer of Code when I need it?
 
1:54 PM
Wow - I've only answered 14 questions this year :(
 
So it goes.
 
@davidism I read a good post by the author of curl on uris and the lack of standards the other week.
Basically lambasting browsers IIRC.
 
@Kevin btw, riddle
my solution was something = (1/(x-5) for x in range(6))
 
@inspectorG4dget - are you referring to Austin Python Users' Group? Surprising that there isn't an obvious mascot.
 
1:59 PM
Although I guess just about every Python Users' Group's acronym ends in PUG
 
@PaulMcGuire yes, that's where I got the idea. It /is/ surprising that Mike Myers isn't their PR guy
 

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