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12:16 AM
605 files changed, wow I must have been working hard
 
@corvid s/"/"/g
 
 
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4:14 AM
Cbg
 
5:03 AM
flag rights restored
\o/
 
 
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8:33 AM
cbg
 
cbg Jon
 
cbg!
Couldn't join without a OT post, now, could I.
 
apparently not @Martijn - cbg
 
Burninating
 
not using a script I hope? <g>
 
hahahaha... hadn't seen that - brilliant
 
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Q: Story with children that have magical powers imbued by wearing stones around their neck

Jon ClementsI believe I first read this in the mid/late 80s. Here what's I can recall: It involved a boy and a girl - I believe 7-10 years old - I don't recall if they were friends or brother and sister They were given a "stone" on a string necklace that enabled magic and protection of some sort from some ...

Another shameless plug and abuse of authority, but what the heck... need to find that book! :p
 
It already got an upvote. Some people..
I picked Too Broad but Offsite recommendation is also applicable.
 
I bet I'd be a bad moderator
 
8:59 AM
I've gone for too broad - it's on-topic regarding "tools used for programming", but isn't quite POB
@vaultah that's probably not a tag line to use if you're thinking of running for a mod position :)
 
I don't want to be a mod ;)
 
Okay - your wish is granted? :p
@Martijn you thought any more about running for mod?
cbg @Ffisegydd - have you got my hangout msg?
 
@JonClements Bluefeet, Yannis, Shog, and others have all indicated that I should be a mod.
Perhaps my reluctance qualifies me, and I already do a lot of mod-like work anyway.
 
I reckon you should be as well, but it's a toss up between your time spent giving answers and the work you already do for the site...
 
I have @Jon, though I'm still in bed so will sort it in a bit
 
9:10 AM
@Ffisegydd yeah... I'm kinda doing the laying in warm bed with laptop thing... waiting for shopping to arrive... then it's a fried brekkie :)
 
Guess where I am!
 
@Martijn Cambridge?
 
Office?
 
I'll have to deal with the two teenagers not letting their younger sister play with the computer game too though.
 
@Martijn is your daughter still doing gliding/flying stuff?
 
9:11 AM
So I'll have to leave the warm bed, I fear. My better half is out running, no idea when she'll be back and she won't thank me not having dealt with it.
@JonClements yes.
 
ugh... not a fan of heights/flying... an ex-colleague of mine is trying to talk me into a charity parachute jump again :(
 
English muffins and jam for breakfast
 
I'm going for bacon, sausage, fried eggs, beans and toast with a couple of bits of black pudding
(if the ASDA van is going to turn up any time soon that is)
might even - it's a radical idea I know - throw a lettuce leaf on it, so I can pretend it's healthy
 
Cmon guys. Now i'm hungry.
 
Kids talked to, youngest' case crumbled before the well-argued retort from older sister.
 
9:17 AM
@defyrlt sorry!
 
@JonClements parachute jumps are different from flying though.
it's one thing to make a loop the loop in a machine you have some control over, it's quite another to jump out of the thing into thin air.
 
@Martijn indeed. I'd rather be in a plane that's flying perfectly well... instead of deliberately exiting a plane mid-flight that's flying perfectly well :p
 
Still, I'd probably like to make a chute jump one day.
 
cbg python :)
in Room for Uni and Sam on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 4 mins ago, by Unihedro
POST http://-chatdomain-/user/info
ids: one or a list of ids, separated by comma
roomId: the room
 
cbg @Unihedro - errr - a bit more context on that might be useful?
 
9:19 AM
only 18 more Meta SE spam flags to a gold badge.
 
@MartijnPieters Oh!
 
Keep em coming, sux0rs!
 
@Unihedro that was helpful flag 482.
 
gZ
 
9:20 AM
@MartijnPieters hanging around with your teenage kids - does it give you "leet" speak syndrome or something? :p
 
@JonClements I just ran that through all the room owners in my home room to find out many of them has never been on in two months.
 
@Unihedro how many (potentially lax) ROs does your home room have!? :p
 
Therefore, I made an announcement:
in Java, 1 hour ago, by Unihedro
Notice: If without opposition, I will trim the list of room owners by half, as most are added unnecessarily and never show up since.
:p
So, just a handy HTTP interface if anyone else' building a chat client as well.
 
ahh okies - have fun :)
cbg @Dharmesh
 
9:30 AM
cbg means "hello" :) - see sopython.com/salad :p
 
ohhh
how are you?
 
fine thanks - how's yourself?
 
Potato? haha
 
although I should say, "banana - potato?" :p
 
i m good
was just checking room
 
9:32 AM
excellent - while you're doing that - can you also check the boiler in the room's kitchen - it's been making some weird noises... :p
 
i dont have boiler at my kitchen..:P
haha
i ment stackOverflow rooms....
haha
 
well yeah... this is the Python room - we like to accommodate our guests with plush carpets, sofas etc... so we also have a kitchen... :p
 
@JonClements No, the silly speak is all my own fault.
 
ohh thats nice
@MartijnPieters hi
 
@DharmeshKheni cbg!
 
9:36 AM
Potato?
hahaha this is nice language
 
Potato
 
i m good
like Banana :D
 
never progressed much beyond Cabbage / Rhubarb though.
I'm wondering if Jon is looking like a hurt puppy now that I admitted that..
 
well... let's just say you're responsible for a new keyboard from the tears I've shed over that remark?
... and then there's going to be the cost of seeing a shrink to address my disappointment issues and...
... and then, probably will have to hire a lawyer and go all American on you, and sue for emotional distress or something
It's either that, or I'll have to admit I can't remember Salad past cbg/rbrb myself...
still trying to work out how to fix these 2.5 million rows that another developer corrupted
 
thats too much
 
9:49 AM
yeah... tell me about it
there's an auxiliary summary table built from those that feeds into the invoice system... so some stuff has already occurred incorrectly etc... pen'n'papering best ways to do it
 
not ur leavel developer
:)
level*
i m just a beginner with swift..:P
 
@DharmeshKheni you can edit messages if they are recent. I edited this one, for example.
 
ok i see
sry abt last
 
@JonClements :-P
np, no need to apologise, just showing you the features.
 
ok..thanks.. :P
i just got laugh when i read this.. :D
 
9:56 AM
@Martijn a 14 year old was given shooting lessons from her parents, but couldn't control the semi-automatic and ended up shooting her instructor... good old US of A
 
cbg @antti
 
cbg @jon
:D
 
@JonClements I have a laundry list of tragic USA weapon accident stories for you.
 
even though I often have a pretty negative view of the current state of the world, it still does not mean that my name is Anti
 
9:58 AM
Mom was given a new handbag with concealed weapon compartment by husband. Goes to Walmart with it, gun in the compartment, toddler in trolly finds it and shoots mum.
 
@Antti sorry - I doubled the i and not the t - just a typo :p
 
Loaded weapon in glove compartment, 2 yo finds it and shoots himself.
Etc. etc. etc.
There are way more gun accidents in the US than victims of deliberate shootings.
 
@Martijn yeah... I don't think the American fore-fathers figured the "right to bear arms" would work out quite how it is
 
I have counted that within the last few months the rate is 1 toddler-killer per week...
 
10:02 AM
@Martijn although this video did amuse me
 
Any law-abiding citizen 18 or older may buy or possess a rifle or shotgun. To buy a handgun, federal law requires a minimum age of 21. Firearms may be sold 14 hours a day, seven days a week, except Christmas.
Arizona's gun laws are among the most lenient in the nation. Under legislation passed last year, guns are permitted almost everywhere in the state except doctors' offices and some businesses. It is one of three states, along with Alaska and Vermont, that allow people 21 or older to carry concealed weapons without a permit <-- scary!
I use to do some shooting and had a shotgun... obtaining a licence and retaining the licence for that, and the conditions imposed upon you in regards to storage of ammunition and the weapon itself etc... was a headache
 
@JonClements Norway and Switzerland have huge gun-possession stats as well.
 
and finland
 
But they have similar storage and care conditions.
 
10:09 AM
but you cannot have a pistol
 
Yeah, and Finland.
It's all rifles in Norway.
 
no one carries a rifle or shotcun concealed
 
Hunting!
And the stats are hugely different from the US for it.
 
a pistol you cannot even use for hunting so you need to be in a sporting club
 
I can legally buy a rifle or shotgun (given proper ID and proof of use etc...) but certainly not a handgun
 
10:10 AM
still some creeps can get it...
 
@Unihedro: 483..
breakfast, bbiab
 
I really don't see any usage of a handgun that's productive
 
some say it is needed for hunting some small fur animals with traps... or sth :d
 
@JonClements you should see the comments on the Charlie Hebdo videos on YouTube and LiveLeak.
Loads of 'heros' have a usecase for their precious so-and-so semi-automatic. They'd not be filming from that position!
right, afk
 
I probably should do that @Martijn - but I'll pretend for the time being that the world's not as stupid as I perceive it to be :)
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Q: Proposal: Possibillity to start chat with low rep users

Philip GQuite often I find that new users of SO also are new as programmers. Which could lead to a bunch of trivial problems easily solved in chat. But since you can't chat with low rep users these kind of questions tend to end up in a very long comment section. Why isn't it possible for highrep users t...

^ keeps coming up - wonder if it'll get any attention
cbg @Peter
@Peter you in London?
 
10:43 AM
ahhh... another text message "we heard you had an accident recently... you can claim for that!" kind of thing
welcome @Raja
 
cbg
so what i missed...!
 
very informative world changing proposals?
 
ha ha. Actually I lost two days to setup nginx because I was issuing service nginx start all the time and my static file not served. But finally then I just enter nginx and suddenly all working...!
 
glad it works now :)
I need to revert some DB corruption... so gonna be off for a bit
rbrb for now
 
11:01 AM
re-cbg
 
re-cbg
@Jon I was AFK, sent you the details now.
 
11:18 AM
 
Someone asking us to do a pen test for them.
 
11:29 AM
This is not a great question without more specifics about where request.POST comes from. The spate of low-quality answers testifies to that.
But I haven't found a good excuse to close it; all I could do is vote on it.
 
In this section, they use next as a local variable. Why the official documentation is encouraging this?
 
next() is just a built-in function. So is id(). You are free to reuse those names for your own purposes.
type() too.
They are not reserved keywords.
Sometimes it makes sense to use those names.
We discourage new users from using often-used built-in names because they shoot themselves in the foot with that practice more often than not.
But that doesn't mean it is discouraged in general.
 
I use id often.
 
Mmmm... "Its okay, if you know what you are doing..." kinda thing
 
Loads of people don't realise copyright is a built-in, but you don't see that name being discouraged. :-P
 
11:52 AM
didn't know about copyright
 
print(copyright) in an otherwise empty Python script works.
 
JavaScript programmers, as a group, are fixated on effi‐ ciency, so you’ll often see single-character variable names, code written with no spaces, and other hard-to-read, yet programmatically efficient, syntax.
6
 
@Ffisegydd Don't worry, the moment they run their code through JSLint/JSHint, they are done...
 
wow... some bloke on the radio slamming Germany... it's only #1 in Europe because the rest of Europe took sympathy on it after '44 blah blah blah
 
Is it Farage?
 
11:59 AM
nope, but obviously someone that's gonna vote UKIP in May
I still can't find anyone I want to vote for... even the independents sighs
worst comes to worst, I'll still vote, but spoil it
Have to admit though, I do like Nigel Farage... strikes me as a guy I'd like to have a pint and rant with, but him having a seat in parliament - I hope not
@thefourtheye cbg evil twin :)
 
@JonClements Cabbage, my evil twin :)
Hope you recovered the data...
 
thanks - it's running... will take another 5 hours though
that's plan A, anyway... already taken a server/2 off line for "maintenance" and they're receiving a last back up form Glacier... so plan B is to "roll forward" rather than "roll back"
 
12:17 PM
mmmm, sounds risky
 
well, when you've done it for a decade... it's not risky, just a right pain in the beep
 
lol... Can't you automate that?
 
lol... it's already running... (plan A) - just waiting
 
Fingers crossed :)
 
wat? you have fingers - I'm starting to doubt you're a real pup :p
 
12:29 PM
Effect of living with humans :(
 
@DSM sorry I nuked your joke library
@DSM but ofc you can still see them with 10k+ powers
 
277 votes to a hammer...
 
12:48 PM
@Ffisegydd 276. But I also dupe-hammered that question.
 
Hah probably for the best. OP of the question now says your dupe isn't a dupe, but I've found an alternative and linked it in.
They wanted a decorator with arguments.
 
Out for a bit.
 
how it comes that stackoverflow.com/questions/28251776/… is closed by a single user ?
I saw he has a python gold badge
and @MartijnPieters no ?
 
1:06 PM
Gold badge users in a tag can close Qs with that tag if they're duplicates
 
@MartijnPieters you didnt
 
@XavierCombelle Because falsetru has a golden tag badge.
You can mouse-over the little golden circle next to their name to see what tag badge was used.
@XavierCombelle: also see the tag.
 
1:24 PM
@MartijnPieters oh I understand it's only for duplicate and not for reclose reopend question
 
@XavierCombelle Duplicate closing is closing a question.
Your dupehammer also gives you the right to reopen a duplicated question with one vote.
As usual you only get one close and one reopen vote however.
So if you already reopened a post, you cannot reopen it again.
 
and you can use the reopen and close vote in any order. That's unchanged.
However, in the case you linked to, the post was never closed then reopened. It was just dupe-hammered once.
 
Cbg
 
 
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3:14 PM
Wheee, I no longer can find the UTF-8-encoded BOM character in the this post. Not in the original source, in any case.
I can't remember exactly which part of the post I had copied that showed it immediately.
 
3:27 PM
@MartijnPieters maybe the utf-8 BOM is suppresed somehow when archiving
 
@XavierCombelle It was there in when the OP posted the question. Perhaps they edited it in the grace period and it is editing that causes it to disappear.
I'd still expect it to exist in the original revision, but not if there was a grace period edit.
Anywho, I found it, we solved the problem.
 
you solved it
well done
@MartijnPieters your answer neither show utf-8 BOM
 
@XavierCombelle The first lines show that what I pasted into my Python 2 session. Yes, the code as posted no longer includes the BOM either.
But the output produced was accurate.
 
@MartijnPieters I was sure the ouput was accurate
 
Looking for a Python project to hone my skills....anything...it doesn't have to be paid a project...just needs to get me thinking a little bit...
 
DSM
3:40 PM
Saturday morning cabbage for all.
 
@Newbie Follow a good tutorial in a new field or library?
Or pick up a Python puzzle site? Like Python Challenge or Code Eval or Hacker Rank?
 
Have done Python Kata
I am on Hacker Rank now....like it....thanks @MartijnPieters
 
4:18 PM
Oh Martijn .... U stopped reviewing triage?
 
4:30 PM
Nah, just haven't done today's list yet.
 
U had beaten others by a mile ... And now you have fallen back ... Sad to see that
 
re-cbg
 
cbg
 
I am late for one day and I have fallen back? :-P
Way to lay the expectations on me!
3
EWit also has a clean review record, I am not the only one.
 
I guess you are the first to get steward for triage ...
Oh yeah ... Even EWit was awarded that on the same day
 
5:05 PM
Cbg
 
cbg Robert
 
@vaultah duped it.
Not realising that input() / raw_input() returns strings and that you have to convert them is not a typo problem.
 
Too many questions → too many possible answers → too broad ;-)
 
^ the answer to that one is of course the goto library
 
Sad that no one has yet used their gold badge to dupe that
 
6:12 PM
I don't think the typo reason is invalid
 
DSM
I dunno.. is missing an int when you don't know one should be there really a typo?
 
Ah, okay. It was answered
I treat an error that can be fixed in comments using less than 10 characters as a typo. Easy to fix, explanation is RTFM etc.
The silence tells me my judgement is wrong :D The upside is, I don't answer typo questions.
 
6:29 PM
Three silver badges out of that meta post so far. :-|
 
DSM
And now everyone loves you. I'm kind of jealous..
 
7:14 PM
cbg
 
@BhargavRao fyi, I made the same kind of edit to one of his recent questions
 
People must have masochistic tendencies to format their posts using HTML...
 
I edited it, then he came up with a new question, which was formatted in the same way
 
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A: exit for loop from another python script

Joran Beasleywhile not os.path.exists("/home/pi/stop_LEDS"): do_blink_led() os.remove("/home/pi/stop_LEDS") then in the php just create that file ... when you want it to stop you could make it exist with <?php exec('touch /home/pi/stop_LEDS');?> try this index.php <?php if isset($_POST["stop"...

sometimes I wonder why do people keep bothering... just give up already programming clearly isnt for you
 
7:32 PM
@vaultah Tired of editing, They should introduce platinum badges too ... After the Copy Editor
 
generalist should be gold :(
 
Yeah
I didn't know that mods had time to chat ....
 
Is there any reliable way to track the progress for Copy Editor? This query doesn't seem to work at all
 
Hey while reviewing there's that small dialog box which shows the progress
 
@BhargavRao oh, thanks :)
130/500 wtf
 
7:41 PM
C'mon start editing .. 620/500
 
I'd say I edit very often
 
I'd say your edited posts are deleted very often
 
waah that triage
never know what to choose
"close them all"
 
Then get banned from reviewing
 
7:46 PM
I stopped once I got steward Evil grin
 
when is a question unsalvageable and when it is "improvable"
it is like "yes it can be improved, just change the characters from 0 thru 2134 and replace them with the other question"
 
The most confusing review queue ....
 
@davidism why?
I could answer it
 
And another X-Y problem satisfyingly solved.
 
7:55 PM
@AnttiHaapala the question "is it possible" can be answered "yes", also look at the answers it encouraged, all pretty insubstantial
 
been doing that (mp4 segmentation) though yes, indeed, the question should be edited to be opened...
but the close reason is not good :D
the close reason is "not programming"
it is about whether live streaming of mp4 works (well usually, it does not work like that) or how to do the segmentation so that it could even work...
 
was thinking about writing about the command pattern but ...
 
8:14 PM
Isn't ? : a ternary operator?
 
0
Q: Convert int to hexstring in c or obj-c

Nate KritoI have a [code]int num = 69;[\code] I want a string with its hex value "7E" [code]char result; sprintf(&result, %X, num);[/code] Seems to work but only gives me the first char '7' how can I get "7E"? Thanks!

lol :d
@BhargavRao yes, it is the ternary conditional operator of C, Java and many others
 
Lol Someguy called it the unary operator
Of course it's ternary, I inadvertently called in unary in my haste to ask the question. Thanks. — Charles Sounder 20 secs ago
 
@BhargavRao yes, it is the ternary conditional operator of C, Java and many others
@BhargavRao that is so borken
 
Yeah
 
I do not even understand how can one get 7 in the char there :D
 
8:22 PM
What's the tag doing on that question?
 
just downvote :D
 
@AnttiHaapala: your please delete this asap isn't very constructive.
 
Just vote to delete if you can, but that comment is not very useful.
 
did you flag it yet?
 
8:24 PM
Besides, why should the question be deleted?
 
it is for the owner
 
They can delete it themselves.
Gone now.
 
yeah :d
 
Does this answer make any sense to anyone?
It doesn't much to me.. Certainly not in context of the question asked.
 
I thought OP did not realize a question can be deleted too
 
8:27 PM
ha, and the OP of the random sample question has found himself a dupe that @Ffisegydd has answered.
 
I wanted to program tonight or answer some questions but I feel really tired, sucks...
 
Obliged them by hammering.
 
is there some long winded articulate answer with regards to the difference between an actual number and its representation .... there are always people that get confused on that
 
@JoranBeasley please elaborate
floating point or....?
 
I try to save the integer 1 into a file but its saving the string 1 how can I save this as binary or hex type questions
 
8:30 PM
graaah...
 
you understand now ? :P
 
and some floating point questions ... when I try to save 0.23123 it saves 0.2131230002123 ... I just want to save 0.23 ... but I dont want a string
 
yeah, it is a lost cause
 
and after a long explanation you end up giving them some stupid answer like f.write(bin(my_number)) and they accept it
 
8:33 PM
if in Python, tell them to use the struct.pack with the ! (network) format.
 
I dont want a string is better .... I just want to save 0.23, but it is writing as '0.23' , How to remove the '
 
if you tell them to use struct.pack ... then they will say but now I have '\x01` I dont want a string ...
@BhargavRao yeah exactly those types of questions
 
I wanna remove the quotes and python is not listening
 
I love how they always blame python ... "y wont my if statement work in python... is pythons if statement broken?"
 
>>> number = '2.34'
>>> removequotes(number)
2.34
 
8:38 PM
lol
 
Their reaction ... Oh my god .... Is there something like removequotes?
Before execution just write

>>> removequotes = float
 
if they start complaining about float, then link them to
 
bah Im gonna go play some everquest .... thats how bored I am today
 
9:01 PM
hem :D
I got some spamflags and I try to flag them as not-spam and I cant?
how do I search for answers with given text?
is:answer
0
A: Manipulating with active, hover states

NevereverYes, however, please read the fine print from w3schools http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/sel_active.asp Note: :active MUST come after :hover (if present) in the CSS definition in order to be effective! Example link: http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_sel_link_more2

maybe the next task would be to burninate w3school links
replace them with mdn links
 

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