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12:00 AM
cbg
 
@davidism rule of thumb regarding NAA... if it's even a really, really crap attempt at answering - it's an answer - just downvote it
 
It literally said "I'm not going to answer directly", that's an anti-attempt
 
if it's in an active tag, generally 20k users will come along and delete it anyway
But it's related to answering it - just not well :)
 
 
1 hour later…
1:16 AM
Cabbage boys...
 
cbg... I prefer puppy :)
 
@JonClements Apart from us, all others are humans Puppy
 
user2555451
Cabbage @thefourtheye. Your avatar scares me. :P
 
@iCodez yes - I am the "good" puppy :)
 
@iCodez Cabbage :-) ... in a good way, right? ;)
 
1:19 AM
the @thefourtheye is my evil twin - regardless of his words :)
 
@JonClements Yup, but I am the innocent, cute, people's puppy ;)
 
user2555451
idk...your puppy looks a little shifty to me @thefourtheye.
 
@iCodez Don't let the looks deceive you :D
 
but I'm the cute one aren't I @iCodez waggles tail
 
Pick me... Pick me... Pick me... Pick me...
 
user2555451
1:20 AM
@JonClements - Yes, yes you are. Good boy, good boy.
 
woot! take that evil twin brother @thefourtheye
@iCodez anyway, welcome to the room :)
 
user2555451
Anyone like my giant crab?! I have many other hats that are harder to get, but I can't seem to get rid of it.
 
user2555451
@JonClements - Thanks.
 
user2555451
I just joined today.
 
slowly crawls under a table
...weeps
 
1:22 AM
@thefourtheye no no no... you're doing that puppy look again... sighs... here's a box of scooby snacks... you're a good boy
 
runs towards the evil twin to grab the scooby snacks
 
@iCodez I don't see them cos I'm being a scrooge and have hats turned off this year... but it's nice to see you in the room - I see you're remarkably active on Python - so a pleasure to have you here
 
user2555451
Yea, I love Python. I've used close to a dozen languages, but Python has always been my best friend.
 
can I ask how you found this room or decided to join it?
 
user2555451
They have hats for chatting!
 
user2555451
1:25 AM
And I also wanted to ask about Python 3.5's ! operator.
 
user2555451
@ operator
 
oh... and I thought it was love not hats - sighs
err... haven't looked into 3.5 yet - so no idea... regarding that
 
user2555451
Well, it wasn't all hats. Otherwise, I would have just popped in to star a bunch and then popped out.
 
user2555451
I like the people here. And the interface is very nice (I probably would have joined sooner if I knew this).
 
@JonClements Hush Puppy, he likes us... He might take us for a walk...
 
1:28 AM
no no no - me for a walk
@iCodez given your experience on the python tag, have you seen sopython.com ?
 
user2555451
I'll just tie you together with one of those multi-leashes. :)
 
user2555451
Yes, I read that.
 
user2555451
I felt I had to considering how many new users I tell to read the Help Center. :)
 
gives the scared look
 
user2555451
@JonClements - BTW, here is the post I was referring to: stackoverflow.com/q/27385633/2555451 I was asking how many people had seen this operator before the post. Almost everyone had. I really need to follow the PEPs more.
 
1:35 AM
Wow.. I should also start reading PEPs more it appears :p
@iCodez Well, if you ever feel kind enough to contribute to the "Common Questions" stuff :)
 
DSM
2:19 AM
Cabbage for all.
 
2:31 AM
@DSM Cabbage :-)
 
@DSM cbg
 
2:50 AM
welcome @MikeCauser
 
 
1 hour later…
Dan
4:27 AM
cbg
 
@Dan Cabbage :)
 
Dan
@thefourtheye how's it going?
 
Ah, bad start to the morning... Didn't sleep in the last 36 hours or so... And the build is keep on failing... Support team gives me random BS... Anyway, thanks for asking :)
 
Dan
@thefourtheye sorry to hear that - I've felt similar pain before
 
@DSM Sorry, I just went crazy :(
 
DSM
Happens to us all. :-)
 
Dan
@davidism what is the tag?
I don't see it on the site
 
DSM
It's short for "close vote, please".
 
it's just a way to make requests for close votes stand out
there is a browser extension that tracks them in chat
 
Dan
4:51 AM
@davidism @DSM ahh ok, makes sense
 
DSM
@davidism: what's this "star things for hats" bit? I read the transcript but couldn't quite follow the conversation.
 
there is a hat for giving stars to 8 people, which is prompting tons of random people to join and star random stuff, which annoys us
@DSM as an RO, you are required to be annoyed at it as well :)
 
DSM
Consider me annoyed!
2
 
cv-pls extension: github.com/cv-pls/cv-pls
 
Dan
well @tristan @DSM @davidism forgive me for answering one of the questions
 
4:55 AM
it's ok, we can't expect everyone to know all the dupes, that's what we're building canon and nidaba for
 
user559633
and i'm not your boss
 
user559633
i'm surprised cv-pls isn't from someone willing to pay $5 for the chrome web store
 
Dan
@davidism speaking of which, I'd love to be able to fix all the spelling errors on that site :P
<-- grammar nazi
 
@Dan you can submit a pr if there are problems with the static pages
 
user559633
my cat is so excited that i can't sleep that i'm afraid he's about to wake up my girlfriend and my neighbors
 
Dan
5:04 AM
@davidism I had assumed the content was in a database and the page content is all stored in a data structure
the pages folder only has a views file for instance
so I wouldn't have access to the content to edit it
 
the three "main" pages, chatroom, nidaba, and salad, are mostly static content
the wiki and canon are stored in the db, but I can't seem to add you to the editor group right now, some new bug :(
 
Dan
@davidism found it
 
Okay, I am totally out of my control... I ll join back when I am sane. rbrb
 
DSM
Feel-better-soon rhubarb for you.
 
Dan
@davidism pull request issued :)
 
DSM
Everyone seems to be sure the issue is the typo, but the OP wasn't specific and the code logic is weird anyway. But I'll throw an unclear at it.
 
user559633
from a scan, it looks like it will mostly do what he wants
 
user559633
(except for the second "mash in some input plz" getting discarded
 
DSM
I think there might have been indentation lost in posting.
 
user559633
6:02 AM
i have a feeling my shell fu will go unappreciated stackoverflow.com/questions/27519144/…
 
user559633
nevermind, user wants to do a thing
 
DSM
I just like saying "penultimate". Sounds so sophisticated.
 
user559633
:)
 
user559633
 
DSM
Weird.
 
user559633
6:19 AM
alright, i should try to sleep again. rb for now
 
DSM
Okay, time to start adapting to my vacation timezone. Rhubarb for all!
 
user559633
cheers
 
6:31 AM
that cigarette does not suit
 
6:41 AM
@tilaprimera I dunno, I reckon Mr. Thompson is a pretty good fit for @tristan's persona in here ;-)
 
6:52 AM
hehe
 
Hmm ... must remember that for repfarming purposes, this is not a good time to answer a non-FGITW question.
 
7:12 AM
Cabbage
 
Cabbage.
 
7:54 AM
cbg
:D
Difficult to identify avatars!
 
cbg
 
The from Storage import * with no indication of what's in Storage.py pushes it over the edge from "just terrible" to "burn it with fire" ...
 
Cbg
 
8:44 AM
Cabbage
 
@MoonOwlPrince you have been here before, I know you've been told to read the rules.
Don't ask if anyone knows anything about X, just ask your question.
 
I am starting a new web project for a small organisation and I would like to know what Django offers that web.py does not offer since I found its simplicity appealing considering the amount of space it took was much less than Django's
 
9:08 AM
Nice hat @Swordy :P
 
matches my avatar :P
 
9:23 AM
What does the full description of this chat say? It's truncated on my Kindle Fire.
 
"The productive programming cabbage. Please do other members the courtesy of reading sopython.com/chatroom";
 
cbg @Jon
 
how goes it @Jerry?
 
doing stuff here and there @JonClements
a bit less busy than last week otherwise
 
9:39 AM
I'm trying to be less busy - doesn't appear to be working as planned at the moment though :)
 
aww, hopefully things will get less busy as we approach christmas
 
at least for a couple of days :)
@Ffisegydd I might be posting a pandas question in a bit... but think I've got it - stay tuned though :p
 
I'm about to get on a train D:
 
9:56 AM
Hello
 
cabbage @JaDogg
 
I have been using pypi.python.org/pypi/html/1.16 to generate HTML, is there a more recently updated and actively developed alternative ? I'm also reading this at the moment lxml.de/lxmlhtml.html
@Jerry Sprouts, it should be Cabbage instead of Hello :D
 
Beautiful Soup?
 
x3 that's fine :)
 
hmm. Thought it was only a parser. I haven't used it though. Googling :p
 
10:04 AM
Ah OK sorry. It is only a parser.
But you mentioned lxml which is also a parser too? Which is what confused me.
 
@JaDogg or just use the builtin xml library
 
Melon
 
Cbg :)
 
cbg @Ian
 
10:13 AM
How be @Jon? :)
 
Jon be fine... how be @Ian?
 
@Jon happier when the holidays start!
 
but everyday is a holiday!? :p
oh no wait... that was a dream I had once :(
 
:(
@Jon been busy?
Working on anything interesting?
 
I'm always busy :(
I'm always working on something "interesting" :p
Oh... meant to ask what's happening with that nifty difference tool you were working on?
 
10:18 AM
Literally had no time to work on it :( - worked like 12-14 hours for 3 weeks a couple of weeks back
After such an experience I just want to go into a dark room and do nothing for millennia
 
I normally do 12-14 hours days all year round - you get use to it :)
 
I would happily do it on my own stuff if it was enjoyable etc.
but when you have people over your shoulder saying "NOOWWW" you're like :(
 
Well... I suppose it's more fun when self-employed, but...
 
Yeh and have the option to say nooooo
 
Well - there's only a certain point you can not answer the phone for :)
 
10:25 AM
:P
 
How the heck have I just got +2 rep
 
Someone down voted a question and then undownvoted it.
 
You mean answer right? Question are 5, answers are 2
@Ffisegydd I merged Dan's commit - I was happy with it
 
@Jon ah, I was not. Or not totally.
 
10:29 AM
There were one or two extra bits I think he missed. But I can do those myself.
 
cbg @Florian
@Ffisegydd I took the view it was an improvement and we should be appreciative of the time... even if stuff needs a bit more changing...
 
I definitely understand that. And am also appreciative. But I'd have put the changes together with my own so it's one commit.
I'd have also waited for davidism to merge it if he was happy.
 
fair enough - although it's not a code change, so won't affect anything David might be working on...
 
No but still. He is lead. I planned on making some majorish changes to that page soon, so will do that over Christmas.
 
@Ffisegydd or... you could just enjoy christmas and not worry about it? :p
 
10:34 AM
I'll do that when you do the same :p
I'm looking forward to Christmas precisely because I'll have some time to code.
 
@Ffisegydd I'll get some rest when I'm dead... :
Although knowing my luck, there's actually an after life, that has a broadband connection and happens to want a few databases sorted sigh
 
10:55 AM
@abc not sure I like the name change and default avatar :(
 
abc
SE have fixed that bug that allowed to change name early :|
 
flag yourself and request a new name - moderators can change user names under some circumstances
or they can just default a name back to a "user......" name...
one or t'other
 
abc
Nah, I'm fine with this name :) Plus I don't have much much time to hang out here..
 
does x^r mean anything significant, in terms of strings and their notation in computer science?
 
@abc that's what happens when you play too much advanced warfare? :p
 
11:08 AM
Two finals today, and one at 8am :\ I call mistrial
 
wow... what's with the caps?
 
abc
@JonClements hah, yeah
 
@JonClements cbg
 
"Balancing chemical equations. Step 1: write down the formula. Step 2: balance the equation". These articles...
 
11:19 AM
Heh. I hate balancing those.
 
Sounds like "How to change a lightbulb?": "Take old one out, put new one in"
 
if you have a lot of reactants and products, then it becomes hard
otherwise it's simple
oh and as long as the substances contain not more than a few elements
 
it's easy, as long as it's simple, that's something of a tautology
 
abc
Dec 1 at 18:52, by tristan
if it hits 1:100, i'm buying an apartment in moscow
It hit 1:83 yesterday :(
 
Any idea what OP might actually want here?
 
11:27 AM
I think he wants to make a tuple out of the first three elements of any list, but probably doesn't know how to slice a list
 
David Mitchell replied to one of my tweets.... w00t!
 
abc
Russian economy must be really devastated if Lavrov says this.
 
11:42 AM
@Ffisegydd you about?
 
abc
12:01 PM
This file contains PHP shell, not sure if I'd report it
I don't think it's harmful, but still
 
@abc are you sure?
or is your virus scanner just overreacting.
we discussed that image before; if you convert it to a PNG the scanner suddenly stops complaining.
 
@Jon intermittently.
 
@Ffisegydd well, I'm writing a pandas question, but at the moment it looks like a "write this for me", as I'm not completely sure what I should be doing :(
I've solved it using other ugly techniques, but there must be some other way sighs
I'll draft something on sopython
 
What's the issue? My phone is dying and I'm travelling through mid Wales so I have little signal. I'll try to give the draft a read though.
 
abc
12:11 PM
@MartijnPieters I opened it in ST and saw eval(base64_decode(string)).
string was an obfuscated php code
 
@Ffisegydd I think ultimately, I wish to create a new column based on a cumulative sum
 
@RealDMitchell Ah. A late Christmas present but an early New Year one... I'm sure I can live with that :) - Cheers.
 
@thefourtheye not sure I'm happy or worried that you're stalking me :p
 
@abc Yeah, it contains bytes that if interpreted as ASCII can be interpreted as PHP code; I see <?eval($_GET[a]); ?> in there.
However, it is not actually code. It is an image.
I'll see if I can analyse if this is in the comment field, palette or image data later.
 
abc
 
12:15 PM
@JonClements Being a celebrity, you would have faced a lot many people like me :D
 
again, not sure to be happy or worried @thefourtheye :p
 
Ah, looking a little beyond the header there is indeed an obfuscated PHP script embedded in it.
Which probably means someone has or has attempted to hack the server there.
upload a GIF with PHP shell code embedded.
interesting.
 
abc
Bryan Adams is a good singer though
That file has been there for around 2 years
 
Hello! Have you an idea for this problem: stackoverflow.com/q/27521645/1929820 ? (SQLAlchemy related)
 
abc
12:21 PM
I've also seen the picture of Joker somewhere, saying hi to to the site admins, so it was already hacked
 
probably a well-known stock PHP shell.
 
abc
Yeah, I used it on my school's site :D
IIRC
Well, not really used, just uploaded it
 
ummm... a random upvote... do I get a silver shining thingy at 20 for an answer?
 
You need 25, puppy
 
yeah.. 20 didn't sound right
only a few upvotes of getting some gold on meta cough
 
12:29 PM
woo managed to tether my phone
 
@Ffisegydd that sounds like it should be an accomplishment?
 
Mate I'm travelling through mid Wales on an Arriva Train. That is a bloody accomplishment.
It means I've managed to beat enough people back to get space to get my laptop out
 
Getting a seat on train is a wow :)
 
What's this pandas issue anyway?
 
@Ffisegydd I wish to compute a new column based on existing info
 
12:33 PM
Ok, did you draft it on sopython?
 
however, there's a roll off period
nope - it's not drafted yet, I'm finding it very difficult to explain
 
@abc: how did you find that file?
I see it was you that posted it to begin with, on the 9th.
 
abc
I made a dump of the site using HTTrack 2 years ago. A week ago I ran a scan on my PC, the antivirus software identified the file as a shell. I checked the live version and it was there.
How did you find it? :P
 
@Ffisegydd okay, put simply... let's say I have[1, 2, 3] in a column, and a value n... there's a cost in another column... so grouping by key and in date order, I would like to create a new column of "actual cost",
 
Ok...
 
12:43 PM
so given the example above, the result with N = 3 would be 1 and 2 are 0, but 3 would be cost
 
Ok. I don't understand what you want D: can you mock up a pandas DataFrame with fake data?
 
@abc your comment was flagged, I checked out the URL to see what the fuss was about.
 
@Ffisegydd okay - that's good - that's some input - what don't you understand - how could I make this a question etc...
 
@abc: I've reported it to the site.
 
@Jon generally the best bet is to have a pandas.DataFrame with fake data to begin with, and then your "outcome" as well. Then we just need to work out the bit in the middle :P
 
abc
12:47 PM
@MartijnPieters Oh. But my message wasn't deleted, means the flag was declined?
 
@Ffisegydd fair enough - I'll anonymise some data
 
That's what I'd expect/want from a question on SO anyway. Gives the answerer some data to work with and also what the answer should be.
 
@abc nor were you temporary banned, so yes, the flag was declined.
is out for some lunch.
rbrb
 
Part of the reason I'm coding Gwydion is to make it easier to make randomised data in the event of the OP not providing it.
 
Gwydion fab Dôn is a magician, hero and trickster of Welsh mythology, appearing most prominently in the Fourth Branch of the Mabinogi, which focuses largely on his relationship with his young nephew, Lleu Llaw Gyffes. He also appears prominently in the Welsh Triads, the Book of Taliesin and the Stanzas of the Graves. The name Gwydion (which should more properly be spelled Gwyddien in Modern Welsh, as can be adduced from its Old Welsh form Guidgen; cognate with Old Irish Fidgen) may be interpreted as "Born of Trees". == Mythological exploits == === War with the South === Gilfaethwy, nephew to the...
 
abc
12:50 PM
Hmm, who can review flags? I thought it was up to moderators..
 
not sure if I should be proud of you adapting my naming systems :)
 
This room should be named Jon Clements+Martijn Pieters.
 
@RamchandraApte don't start rumours - his wife and kids wouldn't like it - not to mention my date at the moment would have a fit :p
 
yo, words up, cbg, greetings and salutations to @Kevin
 
12:54 PM
Don't be so pessimistic. ♬ Anything is possible ♬
 
Yo
 
Jon Clements+Martijn Peters+Kevin, at least at the time I check chat.stackoverflow.com
 
I received a bounty recently, and I suspect one of you is responsible. Thanks, mysterious benefactor :-)
 
@Kevin that'd have been @MartijnPieters :)
 
sopython.com is missing a copyright notice.
github.com/sopython/sopython-site/blob/master/LICENSE.rst legally speaking sopython organization is not recognized. Change that to a list of people or one person (the latter is preferable).
 
12:56 PM
sopython is missing many things. Including a pine fresh scent (CEP2)
 
@RamchandraApte doesn't matter - it's public - we don't need copyright
 
Haha
You could sued if sopython has some problem
(consumer right laws)
 
oh noes. </sarcasm>
 
I feel deja vu.
I told the same thing to another website and someone said "oh noes"
 
@Ramchandra actually no - we couldn't
 
12:58 PM
I don't think a copyright notice gives you any sort of legal protection against being sued.
 
A license for code stops certain consumer right laws about quality of a product
 
Save for perhaps, another site producing identical content, copyrighting it, then suing us retroactively.
 
oh what grounds do you base this erroneous fact @RamchandraApte
 
Ok, so you want us to have an end user license agreement, not a copyright statement.
 
Consumer right laws don't exist?
 

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