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11:45 AM
posted on June 28, 2016 by hostilefork

Previously, when a word was "interned" into the system, it would receive a fixed index number from a table. This index number pointed into a data area of UTF-8 strings, and was persistent--the system would never reclaim a word from the GC once it had been loaded. The data was kept as UTF-8 because there was no need to decode it--the words were immutable, and only needed to be hashed and

 
 
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12:46 PM
Writing the blog entry for the new release, hopefully in a few hours.
 
1:06 PM
The word MAYBE hasn't been taken yet. Perhaps it's better for the function of TO-VALUE, for turning voids into blanks, passing all other values through? TO-VALUE is a bit of a speedbump...the need is pretty common...and I can't really think of what "maybe" as a language feature would mean otherwise.
It's a little bit confusing considering its reverse operation is OPT; it could be argued that it's not totally clear which would be which.
 
1:26 PM
@rgchris I'm moving closer to doing the split out of Ren-C from the "life support", so it would be helpful if you have any programs that do not run under it today but you would like to see feature-focus so that program ran, if you could cite the blocks (or file as issues)
Then whatever those features were could be priority in the new host.
 
 
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2:43 PM
@HostileFork Finally found a link on wikipedia that explains the ^M notation! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_character
 
@iArnold Dunno what's new there, but if you have a notable fact or section you might put it in the Caret Notation article, specifically.
 
@HostileFork It is just when I tried to find a suitable article it did not show up and now all of a sudden when I was looking for some related stuff it showed up. As always :-)
 
 
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4:35 PM
@HostileFork I haven't had time to test ren-c lately. My main problem aTM
Atm is utf8 on my data I practically always get an
An error on unknown utf668
8 codepoints
Sorry, nearly impossible to type atm.
 
@ingo If you have an example of an error caused in Ren-C on UTF-8 I can take a look at it, I know more about it these days than I did.
 
I'll give you an example when I can get a test on my computer at home.
 
Cool. Well, hopefully testing will become more fun once I get back to Ren Garden. Working on features for Ren-Cpp today
Been toiling on infrastructure a long time, and many many advances made on things I wanted to see done. Still the big questions are things like how binding in objects and "inheritance" will play out, but there's a lot more tricks in the bag to apply to the problem...and more things that used to be murky are clear, to light the way
Today I've been sort of bemoaning the weak mark-and-sweep GC and wondering what might be done to not necessarily improve it right now, but make sure it is improvable later. You can design things (or neglect to design things) in such a way that it makes it impossible for a motivated individual to ever change things, or you can think ahead.
 
5:37 PM
@HostileFork , not sure if you've seen Red's use of 'is in reactive programming. Just mentioning it since you've brought it up recently for use in relaxed equality testing.
 
@Adrian I did just read that. Among things I'd consider using IS for, that wouldn't be one of them. What about x: reacts [...]
It does not--in any case--affect my thinking on the matter one way or another.
 
that kind of wording is used in View when declaring that something will respond reactively
I guess if you will soon burn the bridges in order to be able to move ahead at a greater pace, syntax compatibility won't be the concern it used to be.
 
@Adrian You apparently have missed how good Ren-C is at adapting, chaining, and otherwise acting like anything it wants. It's not the concern it used to be because Ren-C is focusing on being able to actually do the acrobatics to act like anything.
 
should change the fork name to Chameleon :-)
 
Chameleons can look like anything, forks included.
@Adrian I've mentioned that the successful maintenance and hassle of <r3-legacy> is sort of a foreshadowed effort of something that could be useful if Red gains popularity and people wind up having code in Red they'd like to see run in Ren-C. It would be a hard thing to start from scratch if the support had not been kept in.
 
 
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7:24 PM
@GrahamChiu Am I missing something? Why is synchronous tcp required to mimic the functions of curl/wget?
 
7:48 PM
posted on June 28, 2016 by IngoHohmann

>> test-data: #{22646973706C61796E616D65223A224A6F6E20F09F98BA22} == #{22646973706C61796E616D65223A224A6F6E20F09F98BA22} >> print test-data ** Internal error: codepoint 128570 too large (or data is not UTF-8) ** Where: print ** Near: ... #{22646973706C61796E616D65223A224A6F6E20F09F98BA22} ??

 
@HostileFork I extracted a snippet that shows the error.
@HostileFork One thing I like about red is its usage of collect/keep in 'parse. I seldom have a need for it outside of 'parse.
 

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