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1:25 AM
@HappySpoon What attack scenarios to this "mechanisms" to mitigate?
 
1:46 AM
posted on October 22, 2014 by Andreas

Shixin Zeng announced the availability of an (open source) encapper for R3 on Stack Overflow chat. Here's the original text from Shixin: "Anybody interested in bundling the REBOL script into an executable? I have worked out something that can build such an executable for both Linux and Windows. The change is at: https://github.com/zsx/r3/commit/c4a478b9" From the referenced commit m

 
2:11 AM
@HappySpoon Re-reading my jumbled sentence, let's try again: "What attack scenarios do you want those "mechanisms" to mitigate?"
 
2:51 AM
posted on October 22, 2014 by Andreas

I'm also happy to report, that some initial testing shows that Atronix's R3 encapper works on Linux quite nicely. I managed to build a fully statically-linked 64-bit R3/Core binary with a "Hello, World!" script encapped that comes out at ~800K in size. Being fully statically-linked (using the musl C library) means that it's completely standalone: no libc, libm, libdl, etc depencies

 
 
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3:52 AM
Looking at the function discussion in the Rebol3 group, would it be useful to have FUNCTION have a refinement for root/deep collecting behaviour:
function [][local: 0 [not-local: 0]]
function/deep [][local: 0 [also-local: 0]]
Or vice-versa depending on the least surprising default...
 
4:05 AM
function/deep sounds like the least surprising default, but we need a better name than function/shallow. Any ideas?
 
Tweaked the AltME groups listing—should be a little easier to use on a mobile device.
@johnk /only :)
 
 
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11:53 AM
@rgchris works well for me. Nice work
 
 
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4:01 PM
Would be nice if you could use a WORD! argument for SORT/COMPARE when comparing objects—would save creating a function for that:
sort/compare [
	make object! [score: 15]
	make object! [score: 5]
	make object! [score: 10]
] 'score
 
 
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5:17 PM
posted on October 22, 2014 by Szeng

Prebuilt R3 capable of encapping is available at http://atronixengineering.com/downloads.html as development releases. Together with the encap.r from https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zsx/r3/atronix/make/encap.r, it can be used to encap the REBOL script into the interpreter and run as a standalone program

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6:15 PM
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Q: Fixing the Rebol3 example calculator to use normal math operator precedence

KevIn the example calculator: REBOL [title: "Calculator"] do %r3-gui.r3 stylize [ btn: button [ facets: [init-size: 50x50] actors: [on-action:[set-face f join get-face f get-face face]] ] ] view [ hgroup [ f: field return btn "1" btn "2" btn "3" btn " ...

 
6:46 PM
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A: Fixing the Rebol3 example calculator to use normal math operator precedence

rgchrisI'm not sure there's a specific function in Rebol 3 that evaluates operators according to formal precedence (I'd be pleased to be corrected), though there are attempts in the wild to implement such a function. If you were to locate such a function, you can just change the evaluator from do to do-...

 
 
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A: Fixing the Rebol3 example calculator to use normal math operator precedence

iArnoldWho said that "the normal order" to evaluate should be the best? Some 'wiseguy' once came up with that because he could not handle being wrong unfortunately he was stronger than the others and threatened to hammer their heads in if they wouldnot do things like he had done, so we are thought to t...

 
 
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10:54 PM
@earl Just for developers to be able to release apps or applications with some comfort that their sources are secure.
 
11:14 PM
@HappySpoon Ok.
Your sources are never secure, with encapped scripts.
Encryption the embedded adds so minimal an obfuscation layer compared to just compressing it, that I don't think it's worth it.
But if you want to trick your mind into ease, I think you can simply add a custom obfuscation layer inside your script.
 
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Q: Android app doens't use Color.RED when launched from the device

Miguel BarrosSo, I'm a beginner developing an android app with eclipse. When I launch it with Eclipse (to the real device) it goes as expected, but when I launch it after, from the device menu like any other app, it goes different. The app is supposed to red out some imagebuttons, and grey out after pressing...

 
I.e. instead of directly encapping your target script, convert it to binary first and create a new script with the real script contained as a binary literal. Then do some "encryption" transformations (such as ENCLOAK/DECLOAK) over that embedded binary.
 
I have no immediate plans on doing this ... just hoping that there will be a mechanism in the future.
 
Again, such a mechanism is technically useless :)
 
So, how do you think RT did theirs? Or Saphirion?
 
11:23 PM
What makes you think either of their encappers are "secure"?
 
Well, when I asked Carl once to see if he could recover source from an encapped app, he thought it would be very difficult.
 
Well ...
 
No matter.
 

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