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12:00 AM
@Loktar I found the FPS monitor in steam btw, 13 fps full settings :/
low post processing med graphics 30 fps
 
12:45 AM
@Loktar @Worf it's over :(
amc y u no make more episodes
yyyyyyyy
 
@rlemon dayum
@Kitler hah last ep was badass right?
 
yup but cut short :(
 
@rlemon yeah I'm sitting at 60 the entire time, but.. I am running 2 290x's
 
yea it isn't enjoyable at low res 30 fps
I'll try again later at lower res
er, lower actual resolution
not 1080p
 
wutcha playin?
 
12:50 AM
witcher 3
 
ouu nice
@Loktar you ended up getting it?
 
yea over the weekend
grabbed it from bestbuy
 
was it on sale?
 
I get 20% off all new games there
 
dayum that's nice
 
12:51 AM
and I wanted it physical since it came with the soundtrack/map and its drm free
and it links to your gog account (the physical vs)
so it seemed smart to get the physical one instead of digital
 
and 20% off that's just a sick deal
I got it for 59.99$ with fuckall :P
once the gf goes to sleep on friday I ll get to play :P
 
@Kitler ahahahahah
they are preparing a spin off afaik
 
Maybe someone can help me with redirecting form data to iframe form and automatically show results after submitting non-iframe form?
 
terraria 1.3 wth
I thought they were done developing it, pretty cool
 
1:00 AM
nono
Terraria still gets regular updates
+ it opened up to custom mods
 
1:10 AM
With class="inline-block", how do I select the next one from the row?
 
@StevensHaen can you show us the rest of your markup? what do you mean by row
 
I need to be able to select the next one and change props
Maybe this is more suited for the JS room
 
the next one after what? and on click/hover?
It's fine in this room
Try to explain what you are doing in a single sentence something like: "I need to update the row that has the number when I click on the one containing the text" or something like that
Or you could just vanish vOv
!!afk back to packing
 
 
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2:38 AM
so in 1992 vatican apologized for galileo galilei process
in 1993 for their involvement in the african slave trade
in 1998 for the inactivity and silence during the holocaust
i wonder if we will ever get apologies from microsoft for msie6 and msie7
2
 
3:10 AM
lol
 
3:50 AM
morning
 
 
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5:09 AM
posted on May 28, 2015

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
5:35 AM
good morning!
 
@easwee \o
 
6:07 AM
@NullPoiиteя I'm weirdly full active since 7 am today - weird
couldn't sleep anymore
 
same. woke up at ~5 am -- done breakfast twice
 
6:50 AM
haha
some days I would sleep till noon, but some I can't sleep at all - went to sleep at 1am was up before 7
fuck biorhytm
 
7:24 AM
@all I am using AWS SES to send mail in php but when I copy this code into XAMPP then I run the PHP Script after that it is this kind of error "Uncaught exception 'RuntimeException' with message 'Could not copy phar:" How can solve this problem?
 
@StephanMuller what the problem?
 
no problem here
did you think I raised my hand to ask a question? :P
 
no, I thought that you are not understand my question
 
o/ <-- waving man. \o <-- waving back man
@StephanMuller \o
contracts and agreements have clauses that include special rules regarding future editions of those contracts and agreements to prevent the workaround of certain ideas or rules allowing them to renew every so often without consent from the users
I thought about that this morning in the shower, and I realized that these are the types of weird situations we get in when we write classes and we say, don't want the user of the class being able to create a subclass or we protect certain methods
I'll bet you could create a programming meta language for legalese that make it clear what your intent is purely based on how it is written
thus keeping such legal contracts "pure" and relatively easy to read (at least for a programmer)
 
7:45 AM
interesting concept
 
I'm no lawyer, but my wife often translates such documents (I don't know how she does it honestly)
 
8:09 AM
@Neil Software is full of bugs 99.99% of the times
You don't want your contract to be full of bugs 99.99% of the times :P
 
@MadaraUchiha Are you sure that this would be the result of turning legalese into a language or because it makes such bugs easier to find?
 
@Neil However, cryptographically signing the document by all parties will prevent alteration
 
Legalese seems like a nightmare to "debug"
 
All parties would need to re-sign with their private keys for the document to be considered valid again
 
It isn't a basic requirement for most contracts
They'd only have to technically get you to sign it once, and you've agreed to whatever is written on it, so long as it is legal
 
8:12 AM
@Neil Well, here in Israel, any hand written additions to a printed contract need to be signed by all parties
And in order to produce a new printed edition of the contract, everyone need to sign again anyway
 
In america, most of those long terms and agreement contracts that you agree to without reading include the subclause that they can change it later without any notice prior
 
The digital equivalent is a crypto signature that gets invalidated once the document is edited.
@Neil That is true.
 
I do think you have to agree to the new terms though, at least there's that
It wouldn't really be code, more like psuedocode
 
Although, there are precedences in court where the agreement to the terms and conditions was ruled out in court because it's long and annoying and exactly 0.00% of all users read it.
 
it's becoming a serious issue
 
8:14 AM
As in, it's not as binding a contract as you may think.
If you want to make it binding, make it more obvious, and a lot shorter.
 
The legalese is absurd.. it shouldn't be enough to be able to read it. It should be summarized as well
problem is how do you summarize a legal document?
 
@Neil Do what they did with licenses.
 
@MadaraUchiha If it were Microsoft backing it and their army of lawyers, you couldn't get a judge to rule it as null and void in court because it is too long, unfortunately
@MadaraUchiha Bravo, now you're getting somewhere
What is the great thing about licenses? They modularize legalese
 
@Neil Yup
 
We should be able to do similar things with agreements in general
 
8:17 AM
What you can and cannot do is common knowledge, and it's easy to find out, even if it isn't.
@Neil Most companies have it in their best interests to not do that though.
 
True
 
Legal knowledge is legal power. Keeping you in the dark gives the company power over you.
It's not like license where the licence is a function of the author's intentions (share or not share, open or not open, etc)
 
those writing licenses were generally programmers pushing open source, and they had no interest in hiding little clauses in their contracts
 
Exactly
 
the source was meant to be for everyone, not for the author
it's become such an issue.. that and patenting
i know why patenting exists, and I don't know if the absence of patenting is any better, but it tends to prevent progress these days, not encourage it
it used to be about allowing an innovator to reap the rewards of his invention, and now it is several large companies stepping on each other's feet on top of a skyscraper that is smart phone innovation trying to prevent the other from stepping on his feet
 
8:43 AM
posted on May 28, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by Doctor Lead */

 
sup o/
 
metalsmith - An extremely simple, pluggable static site generator.
 
Morning
 
murnin
 
8:57 AM
metal smith seems fricking amazing
 
@mikedidthis nice
 
I think I may give that a whirl for my support docs
 
Ooooooooh gratz @GNi33!
 
9:35 AM
o/ - question: what can I do to make a flexbox align these items in the "center" but with a trailing item being left aligned relative to the center?
 
@worf is the man you need to ask :P
 
i know nothing
 
/me wishes he could use gimp... (or have Photoshop)
 
9:42 AM
@IanClark add a fourth element that has the same with but zero height
 
Flawless! Yeh - so the upper case is using flexbox with justify-content: center, and using no flex-shrink/grow such that they stack nicely, other than when you have an
yeh... that's what I was fearing
I had seen that, but would have like a center-trailing-left kind of solution :P
 
maybe flexbox 2 (ETA August 2097)
 
@Worf ha ha.
 
@Worf :P - draft revision?
 
width*
 
10:47 AM
@Neil this
 
11:04 AM
posted on May 28, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by Discover */

 
I have a great idea for a website, who wants to help? It's called "More than IE8" and it lists all kinds of statistics about things that are more common than IE8 users. Like the amount of people with a visual handicap, the amount of people that still use [insert ridiculously deprecated technology], the amount of endangered species in Africa.
Could easily be ported to cover IE9 once usage for that has become low enough to not want to support it anymore.
 
11:42 AM
posted on May 28, 2015 by Remy Porter

On April 10th, I hosted The Daily WTF: Live! in Pittsburgh. It was a blast. We had a great crowd, and some great performances. John Lange attended the storytelling workshop I co-taught with Kevin Allison, of The Story Studio. His story- about gaming, and friendship, and technology- really struck a chord with me, and I wanted to make sure he got a chance to share it. Direct Link(MP3)

 
@StephanMuller What's the golden number then? How many IE8 users are there?
 
idk do I look like a mathematician?
there must be some way to make an estimate though
 
I suppose if you want to list that there are more members of a certain endangered species in Africa than there are IE8 users, you'll probably have to know how many IE8 users there are
 
yeah, I know
I was just posting random examples of fun statistics
I think if you start with a list of "x% of web users are handicapped" which would be more than the % of web users using IE8 you could already get somewhere
 
12:05 PM
meh
Interesting read if you like chemistry, or even if you don't
The guy writing the article refers to it as Satan's Kimchi :P
 
Ohai. I have a JS file in my <head> tags, but it just execute any of its code. No 404 error is returned in my dev console. There are console.log lines in my js file, and those are not being executed either. Any suggestions? I made a question about this as well but was hoping someone here could make a suggestion.
It just doesn't*
 
the javascript seems to work fine, so it is something else
when something has catastrophically gone wrong, in my experience, the best way to deal with such scenarios is by rebuilding the page one component at a time, adding only what you need to make the javascript work
 
12:33 PM
@StephanMuller +1
 
@StephanMuller I like this
 
@TryGhost Don’t know if your dev community would be interested - Apress giving ’Node Web Development’ for free today https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning
 
cool
free airport internet y u so slow
 
@Kitler free stuff
 
12:46 PM
@Worf @Kitler How are your designing skills? :P
 
shiat :P
 
@StephanMuller star this if you agree that i'm a fantastic and brilliant human being
 
bummer
 
assholes.
 
@worf lol
 
12:52 PM
@StephanMuller anyway i'm not as good as i used to be but i'm okay
need help for something
?
 
@easwee <3
 
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Q: Deobfuscation of minified JS with source maps

estusCan source maps help to deobfuscate the code that was previously minified with Closure/Uglifyjs? Are there real obstacles in how source maps work, or is it not there just because nobody cared about it? I'm not quite sure if it may work in a similar way to debug symbols in compiled languages (whi...

this should be closed
 
1:10 PM
@ZachSaucier why is your plugin a collection of global functions
 
@Neil The thing is that it'll be hard to actually rebuild it, since all I've done is add those 2 lines to the Wordpress template.
 
@RizkyFakkel Then try to do something incredibly simple
<script>console.log('hi')</script>
Put that in your page and see if something gets printed out
If so, it could be jQuery, and if not, it could be your browser
 
@Worf currently all I have is the idea
 
@Kitler off topic?
 
I'll work it out some more but I'll probably get stuck at the design very soon
 
1:21 PM
@mikedidthis it's a google query not a question
 
@StephanMuller the msie8 site you mean
 
I see. Well I used an alert, and that worked. Seems like something's wrong with my jQuery then.
 
@StephanMuller using a blog maybe?
 
Oh that could work too
I was thinking more in the lines of a single page infographic thingy
 
1:24 PM
@RizkyFakkel there you go. Make sure the link to the jQuery library is correct
 
Fanta Sea!!!
 
@Neil Ah, just did. Funny how the google jQuery CDN works and the jQuery CDN doesn't. Thanks!
 
@RizkyFakkel Happy to help :)
 
1:45 PM
posted on May 28, 2015 by Mary Lou

A subtle tilt effect for images. The idea is to move and rotate semi-transparent copies with the same background image in order to create a subtle motion or depth effect. Image Tilt Effect was written by Mary Lou and published on Codrops.

 
1:55 PM
no idea where to use it, but cool
 
2:05 PM
 
2:28 PM
user image
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(foul language)
@easwee "subtle"
almost gives me a migraine looking at it
@Neil most content in contracts is just the contractor covering their ass
 
@TylerH So why can't they cover their ass by saying "Refer to the 'Never gonna give you up' clause of 94" rather than 20 pages of tl;dr?
 
2:47 PM
@Mr.Alien ping me buddy when you come online (want to ask something )
 
3:03 PM
@Neil because that's pointless and there's a chance their claims will actually be enforced
also just putting "don't do X" in a contract that people sign or agree to is enough to ensure that lots of them just don't do it
the people who are naturally "rule followers"
 
hi buddys
 
3:34 PM
til shell sort
not actually sure i've understood it tho :|
 
@Worf i'm familiar with all the sorting algorithms except shell sort, but after I watched that video on shell sort, I still don't understand how it works
 
me too
 
I've derived only the fact that it involves a lot of folk-style dancing
 
3:49 PM
@Worf I still don't get it :P
 
it's based on a guess
 
It is an insertion sort that skips spots..
 
so it probably sucks :P
 
I don't think I'd ever use it
If it is almost sorted I'd use insertion sort. If not, I'd use quick sort. Done.
 
easy peasy
 
3:51 PM
i forgot a lot of what I learned at the university, but sorting algorithm complexity and when you should use each type stuck for me
 
I tried algorithms once
 
and that apparently, you should never have a good reason to use bubble sort
 
then I quit once I got a rubik's cube solved
 
is it odd that we still don't know if P=NP?
 
Thanks for the internet and global warming, Al
@Neil that question is n hard so no
 
3:55 PM
I'm not sure if it is because we're still in our infancy of computer science or if it is impossible to prove
we may find out that it is like the halting problem
@TylerH n hard to find out P=NP?
 
isn't that how they say it
I don't know math
 
I'm not a computer scientist, just a programmer
From what I recall, P is polynomial, NP is non-polynomial and NP-complete is non-polynomial where you can test a solution in P time
 
I think I read it on the millenium problems page
the handful of questions that mathematicians still haven't solved
the page broke them down into whether they were like n-hard or n-easy or something
IIRC
Apparently for the P = NP problem, if it were solved one way, it would mean the end of the internet
Mathematicians are, understandably, hoping it is solved the other way
 
posted on May 28, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by Andarack */

 
@TylerH I fail to see why :P
 
4:04 PM
@Neil it would mean stuff is easy to check and easy to solve
so cryptography would collapse
security, etc.
all that relies on stuff that's hard to solve
but easy to check
 
@TylerH the US government has been using quantum tricks to tell if messages have been read for years now
 
AKA the "odd" numbered math problems in math books
easy to check the back of the book for the answer, hard to solve them out by hand :-)
 
Well for sure things would have to change
but in theory we already have the technology to implement it
 
@Neil What's that?
 
@SomeGuy I don't know how it works, but it is based on the idea that they can know if a message has been read
 
4:09 PM
What should I google to read more about this?
 
Quantum computing communication
 
Quantum cryptography is the use of quantum mechanical properties to perform cryptographic tasks. Well-known examples of quantum cryptography are quantum key distribution and the breaking of various popular public-key encryption and signature schemes (e.g., RSA and ElGamal). The advantage of quantum cryptography lies in the fact that it allows the completion of various cryptographic tasks that are proven or conjectured to be impossible using only classical (i.e. non-quantum) communication (see below for examples). For example, It is impossible to copy data encoded in a quantum state and the very...
 
like the tests of the airplane sending quantum encrypted signals to the ground receiver
 
Haha, I was already on that page
Thanks
Got to sleep now, but I'll read it later
 
@SomeGuy probably can't go wrong searching for "quantum" on Ars Technica
or Phys.org
 
4:11 PM
though not sure the usefulness of knowing if a message has been read other than the ability to know to stop sending packets
 
Some twitter bootstrap / php geek here? I want to use tabbed content but in a loop of posts from wordpress.
 
but someone has already seen at least one packet and could conceivably decrypt it
 
But all the items keep having the tstate 'active'.
 
@Neil basic sigint
What you do depends on whether the enemy knows what you know
 
@TylerH True, but better to know and know that your enemy knows that you know than to not know
 
4:12 PM
That's why when the Allies got Enigma decryption working, they couldn't just act on all the stuff they were hearing
they had to make it look like lucky guesses
otherwise the Axis powers would know "hey they are somehow reading all our freakin texts, man"
"Send it as a snapchat so that it expires, that's safe right"
 
right, I'm not arguing that it isn't useful
just that your enemy still has a packet that you sent.. could be highly useful or it could be worthless
you know which the enemy has maybe, but still
 
well I think the premise with the quantum equipment is that it can tell if it has been intercepted because the signature changes
and the equipment will not be able to decrypt it because the signature changes
 
you think the one intercepting the signal can't derive the original message?
 
@Neil not with the method of quantum cryptography that I am talking about
a plane beams a message down to earth via a laser that uses quantum encryption techniques
I think Ars did a story on it, that's where I read about it
something about the fact that it's quantum means you can't intercept it because if you do you change the message
because of the heisenberg uncertainty principle or something
you can't know a particles position and speed at the same time or w/e
 
 
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5:26 PM
dice in a dice
 
!!WordPress or custom_blog_development
 
@NullPoiиteя custom_blog_development
 
Hey guys, anyone know how this website is doing this? I'm trying to create something similar with my website but have no idea what they are using!
 
@KKhat the parallax scrolling?
 
5:42 PM
@easwee And you know what's underneath that don't you?
A pikachu
 
cimmanon is that parallax?
 
6:07 PM
lol
crazy Italians cc @Worf
@KKhat cool site. What do you mean by "something similar"? What is "this" that you refer to?
 
6:21 PM
anyone played with <picture> ?
 
6:43 PM
not much
 
its ok, I figured it out. I was trying to swap srcset, just replaced the whole thing instead.
 
-_- this woman tweeted "women rate 80% of men as less-than-average attractiveness" and got really upset when I said that meant those women can't do math
 
lol
 
7:03 PM
@TylerH you tweet the same thing, but swap the genders :P
 
@mikedidthis no thanks don't want to be doxxed
also hers was linked to an article/study
don't feel like making one of those up from scratch right now
 
7:17 PM
user image
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lol
reminds me of the comic about the ballmer effect
at the perfect drunkenness level, amazing code is written
"You can't just give coders a year's supply of whiskey and hope things turn out well... remember Windows ME?"
 
7:41 PM
@Kitler Because I suck at JS. Help me
 
@ZachSaucier use a namespace? window.ale window.ale.loadAsset() etc.
closure would be enough.
 
@Loktar wow they finally fixed their website in Firefox
 
haha nice
 
forever it would just never finish loading and the styles would be messed up beyond recognition
huge viewport-sized "Material Design" graphics
 
7:48 PM
@Loktar @rlemon Have an opinion on how I should make my functions non-global? Is window.ale.functionName() good?
 
@ZachSaucier yeah basically, just put them under a namespace like ale
@MadaraUchiha can chime in
 
these are the sorts of things I've not learned yet :)
Understand what they mean, I don't know how to do it ye
 
thats what the whole commonjs pattern thing I was talking about before
 
^ that
 
your file would be a module, and export whats publically available
so it would be module.somecoolfunction
but you can do it without cjs, using other patterns
 
7:51 PM
@Loktar write a book so I can buy it and read it
 
TIL your name is Addy Osmani
:-P
 
hahah I wish
check out module pattern @ZachSaucier and then if you get bored look at the section under modern patterns
the module pattern is pretty common
 
I'm glad a list of suggested books is included for more basic reading because that book is too advanced for me I think
 
well and the revealing module pattern
@TylerH eh, just take it in sections
var myRevealingModule = (function () {

        var privateVar = "Ben Cherry",
            publicVar = "Hey there!";

        function privateFunction() {
            console.log( "Name:" + privateVar );
        }

        function publicSetName( strName ) {
            privateVar = strName;
        }

        function publicGetName() {
            privateFunction();
        }


        // Reveal public pointers to
        // private functions and properties

        return {
            setName: publicSetName,
I mean thats not terrible to understand
 
7:54 PM
also, any ideas how I can load the image normally if no js is running?
 
@ZachSaucier noscript?
 
^ that
damn... everyone is beating me today
 
yeah but telling people to put noscript every time they use it is annoying
 
well what would be the alternative?
 
I don't know of one :P that's why I asked
 
7:57 PM
if theres no js, you cant inject it, therefore it must exist in the markup somehow.
 
I suppose I should just catch failed loading and load via css-background then
(no XHR loading)
 
if its a non-content image, you can do the nojs class on your html element. remove the class via javascript while/after it loads
 
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