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9:04 PM
@rightfold This room shall not die. Deprecating the Observer Pattern should be an interesting read.
 
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@FredOverflow I still need to learn Scala. :(
 
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Also
 
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I want to learn everything about templates, SFINAE and ADL.
 
@rightfold I thought you already knew everything about those? Who is your mentor, litb? :)
@rightfold Don't worry, you have plenty of time. Scala won't run away :)
 
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@FredOverflow I have no mentor.
 
9:07 PM
@rightfold I have several:
The missing r is probably a typo.
 
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lel
 
lel?
 
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lol
 
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The missing o is probably a typo.
 
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Tomorrow I'll have Java class.
 
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9:08 PM
And I don't like the teacher.
 
You know what O said to Q?
 
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Nothing; letters can't talk.
 
"Dude your dick is hanging out"
looks like it was correct English, felt wrong
 
@rightfold ust think of Java as the C of JVM languages. Minimal, and full of quirks.
@rightfold I find it funny that "letter" means both "character" and "that thing you put in an envelope".
 
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No.
 
9:11 PM
@JohanLarsson So nice of you to visit and breathe fresh air into this room :)
 
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It's a subset of character.
 
I stand corrected.
But a letter is-a character :)
That is, everywhere a character is expected, you can provide a letter.
 
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@FredOverflow public class Letter : Character
 
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Today in class we got taught about abstract classes and interfaces! :D
 
At the same time? We teach interfaces in the first semester and abstract classes in the second semester.
 
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9:14 PM
Well, abstract classes first, then interfaces.
 
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Teacher occasionally asks questions towards the audience.
 
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Guess who answered all of them.
 
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@FredOverflow I wish I could contribute with something programming related if even just a noob q :D
 
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It's funny when everybody is paying attention and doesn't know the answer to the questions and some asshole is just coding and not paying attention at all, yet answering all questions.
 
9:16 PM
@rightfold My best guess is that you corrected at least half of the questions :)
 
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No, the teacher was right most of the time.
 
@rightfold That's because you have prior exposure to programming.
Nobody can learn in 90 minutes what nerds have studied for years.
 
and perhaps prodigy
 
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I was writing my implementation of Ø.
 
I will boycott that language (i.e. not use it) until you rename it!
 
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9:17 PM
Ok!
 
Dang, I always confuse e.g. with i.e. Oatmeal to the rescue!
 
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Because it's untypable? :D
 
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I'll name the package manager "Å".
 
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IKEA will love this language.
 
@rightfold yes
 
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9:21 PM
Øh, thåt døesn't reålly måtter.
 
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AND ß IS NOT UNTYPABLE IS IT
 
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Silly Germans using weird letters. :')
 
@rightfold No, I have it on my keyboard. You get it by typing a question mark without the shift key.
 
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I get it using option+S.
 
thæt mætter is probably closer to how it sounds
 
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9:23 PM
Knäckebröd.
 
you tried it?
 
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Back in the days I ate knäckebröd each day.
 
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Knäckebröd with jam is great.
 
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Dammit now I want knäckebröd.
 
don't think I ever had it with jam, usually just cheese
 
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9:25 PM
I eat pancakes with cheese.
 
@rightfold I used to eat a lot of Knäckebrot with spread cheese, tomatoes, basil and olive oil.
It gave nice results on the toilet as well.
@rightfold I only eat pancakes with apple sauce.
 
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Tomorrow I'll go get myself some knäckebröd.
 
knäckebröd messes up the keyboard though
 
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Indeed. All those tremas.
 
I have a keyboard condom. Invaluable when you eat at your desk (which I practically always do).
 
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9:30 PM
My keyboard is full of crumbs.
 
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I should remove all the keys and clean the whole shebang.
 
in Java Sucks, 53 secs ago, by FredOverflow
@undefinedbehaviour ...Why are you telling me this?
 
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I never use my desk.
 
@rightfold haha
 
@rightfold Probably not worth the effort, keyboards don't cost very much.
 
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9:31 PM
@FredOverflow laptops do. :v
 
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I don't think I'll ever buy a laptop again.
 
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Next time I'll just go with a Mac Pro.
 
I never tried it but heard that one can put the keyboard in the dishwasher. Might be corrosion and malfunktion idk
 
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Basically the only decent laptops are MacBooks and even they suck.
 
@JohanLarsson Every keyboard that I try to wash, no matter how, ended up dead.
@rightfold I like my ThinkPad X61.
 
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9:38 PM
I want a powerful computer on which I can use Gentoo and at least two large monitors.
 
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btw my teacher was surprised I didn't use Eclipse lol
 
Is using Eclipse suggested/mandatory in your course?
 
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Yes.
 
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The teacher uses Eclipse and explains everything through Eclipse.
 
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Google also recommends Eclipse for Android development.
 
9:41 PM
What are the prerequisites for taking the course?
 
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However, I tried Eclipse and I must say… going from nothing to a running Android app is much harder to do in Eclipse than it is from the command line.
 
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@FredOverflow I think basic understanding of Java that we got taught in the second quarter of the year.
 
So you learn Eclipse, Java and programming at the same time? And you're already at abstract classes???
 
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Beyond that, nothing.
 
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@FredOverflow wait, lemme look it up.
 
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9:45 PM
> Vereiste voorkennis: Object-georienteerd programeren met Java uit INFDEV01-2
 
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Yeah, second quarter where they taught "OOP" and some kind of Java.
 
"Vereiste" means "iced" in German :)
 
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German "Eis" is "IJs" in Dutch. :P
 
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@FredOverflow Hogeschool Rotterdam is rated one of the worst CS colleges in The Netherlands. :v
 
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(And it doesn't surprise me the slightest bit.)
 
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9:47 PM
> Required preknowledge(?): Object-oriented programming with Java from INFDEV01-2.
 
@rightfold How do they teach OOP? Animals, cats and dogs?
 
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@FredOverflow Animals, mammals and tigers.
 
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And encapsulation is public getters and setters for each and every private variable.
 
:D
How do you like my C code in the JS room? :)
 
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Wrong brace style.
 
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9:52 PM
Too many macros.
 
It's only one macro!
 
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Indeed.
 
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No parentheses around operand of sizeof.
 
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Not even consistently!
 
@rightfold No parens needed in sizeof 0[arr].
 
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9:55 PM
Do it anyway. :v
 
arr is already guarded by brackets.
 
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(sizeof(arr)/sizeof 0[arr]) = inconsistent = fugly
 
The first parens are needed because of macro expansion, otherwise I wouldn't have used them.
 
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Ø will have unsafe.coerce! and unsafe.copy. :D
 
What is that, memcpy?
 
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9:57 PM
Yes. :D
 
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It should work for most objects except for String or Array objects since they use ogonek::text<ogonek::utf8> and std::vector<object*> internally.
 
I'd love to continue chatting, but I need to go to bed, dentist appointment in the morning.
 
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Good luck.
 
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With your teeth.
 
dankje well or something :)
 
10:00 PM
Dentist is spa
 
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Dentists are good.
 

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