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12:01 AM
Too complex, in this situation.
 
@KendallFrey Well some good logic could automate it most likely, but I will not show any code, because I'm not a code vending machine :).
 
You can't show code, because you have no idea what my situation is.
 
@KendallFrey lol, that may be true too!!
 
(I'm not actually dealing with files on disk)
(^ That is still not entirely true.)
 
@JABFreeware Not a code vending machine? You're a programmer right? That's pretty much the same thing.
 
12:10 AM
@RoelvanUden No, that's very ironic.
 
well without knowing exactly whats going on can you give the user the option to postpone the update, so they can update when its going to cause the least amount of data loss?
 
@KendallFrey The best user experience would be to have user-generated settings/data to be migrated to a new format when necessary. I don't know how doable that would, but from a UX point of view it would make sense. Otherwise, B) seems the better choice..
 
Jan 2 at 2:53, by Kendall Frey
@JABFreeware I'm not a code vending machine, remember?
 
The format I have is not exactly upgradeable.
@E.LDunn They can update when they please. There is no auto-update.
@CCInc It's so ironic when people use the word 'ironic' wrong.
 
That's not irony :P
bad ken doll
 
12:14 AM
Ironically so ;)
This place is seeping in irony after that bomb.
 
12:34 AM
Whitepad now supports multitouch manipulation!
 
lets test it out then, link ??
 
very nice! although i did notice something and just wondering if its a design feature
 
@KendallFrey sorry i had to eat
 
when you zoom your pen width remains the same size.
 
12:47 AM
@E.LDunn Notice what?
 
How do i implement it into my application?
 
Implement what?
 
the Chrome window
like this
 
What have you tried? What failed? — Kendall Frey 55 mins ago
 
well, i have no idea where to start
that is why i asked the question
 
12:49 AM
That's not the kind of questions that are on-topic for SO.
 
oh
well, could you help me?
 
i did
that is what i put in my question
 
Exactly.
Did you ignore it, or what?
 
i have read it ... it makes no sense
no, i do not know what DLL's i need
i have the shell
but the rest it ..... well, i do not know
 
12:51 AM
Did you look at the example code?
 
yea
i got errors implementing it
 
BUT WHAT ERRORS?
 
the property WindowChrome was not found
the type Windows:Chrome was not found
 
also kendall if you want some user feed back so you can improve it for better user experience can you make the tool bar floatable as the bezel on my monitors and the way they detect touch makes them really hard to press... thought id just let you know
 
I also downloaded the sample application...(WHICH did NOT compile)
 
12:56 AM
TBH, I don't feel like helping you today. It seems that you should be able to get enough information from error messages/articles/google to figure it out eventually.
 
@KendallFrey Ok, i understand ha ha, i usually figure it out
i just thought it would save me time
i have click on every link on google about this
ha ok, see ya
@KendallFrey
OK, one quick question. I have added the DLL the Shell one. I also have added the
xmlns:ccl="clr-namespace:CustomChromeLibrary;assembly=CustomChromeLibrary"
but when i add the <shell:WindowChrome.........
 
What's the current topic of today's conversation?
 
I get an error
WPF WindowChrome
i need some help on it
 
Goodluck.
 
are you any good?
 
1:10 AM
I'm still learning.
 
well, you are in the same boat i am in
i just learned today :D ha ha
 
I've been reading a book for the last month.
Still no use.
 
ha
yea
there really is not some good solid documentation
 
How am I supposed to know that you're meant to cast an integer before you add it to a MessageBox!
I mean seriously!
 
why would you cast an integer?
what do you mean about that
 
1:13 AM
Because only strings can be added into MessageBox.Show method.
 
If you have MessageBox.Show(int) it won't work.
...Or atleast I'm pretty sure.
 
you cna convert a int to a string
value.ToString();
 
Yeah, can't remember how though.
Ahhh...
So MessageBox.Show(ToString(int)) would work.
 
how old are you?
 
1:15 AM
16
 
um, no, well, i am not sure
me too
:D
 
MessgaeBox.Show("Hello" + value.toString());
like that
 
What aspect of programming are you going to get into (assuming that's what you want to do)?
 
i am not sure
 
1:16 AM
I believe MessageBox.Show(int); will work.
 
Let's try it.
 
yea
assuming your int is the variable
 
It may automatically call ToString on the object like Console.WriteLine
 
Get my handy dandy IED out
Wrong acronym
 
ha IDE
 
1:17 AM
:D
 
@ProfPickle maybe Video Game Programming
i am working on a video game
well, about to
just need a team
 
I thought about game development, but I didn't like my chances.
 
@EliteGamer Heard that one before.
 
I was thinking either software development or computer forensics
 
@CCInc YOU know it
ha ha
i have gotten closer
ha ha
 
1:18 AM
@ProfPickle Good field.
 
Good to hear
I can't remember what thing to put at the start of a blank class if you want to use MessageBox.Show
Something like using.System.something
 
no
oh
blank
try to look in the documnetation ofr the message box
 
Doesn't sound right
So many error messages
 
using System.Windows.Forms
 
1:26 AM
Wow, first time I've seen Yahoo answers actually have a Q&A that didn't contain something like "Liek I dont no dats stewpid" or "Sources Cited: My grandfather's dog-walker"
 
Got it
Just as I suspected, MessageBox.Show(num); returns error "Cannot convert from 'int' to 'string'.
But...
 
num.ToString() will do it
 
Correct
MessageBox.Show(num.ToString()) works
...And MessageBox.Show("Hello " + num); also works
 
are you doing winForms?
 
I did it to get the namespace for MessageBox
yeah
System object, not namespace
I need to learn the correct terms for everything.
 
1:31 AM
System.Windows.Forms.MessageBox
 
Ya.
So, now that that's sorted.
What's the difference between a Class and a Code File (Microsoft Visual C# 2008 Express Edition)?
 
mmm
you can have multiple classes in a file
a class is a reference file I believe
a code file can hold classes and namespaces
When you are in VS and select "class" it automatically inserts a blank class of the name you specified.
 
Code Files look scary
Just a blank wonderland of whiteness
 
lol you will learn
 
I generally learn by doing things, yet I don't know what to try.
What should I attempt?
 
1:37 AM
Make an app.
Of your choosing.
 
app?
like iOS
i have done that
 
...
 
Yeah, I'll pass
 
sigh
 
ha ha
i know what you mean
 
1:38 AM
Pong is a good starter, although not for C#... unless you want to do XNA
 
I thought something like "make a button, when pressed, make a popup appear).
 
Text Editor is a classic
 
@ProfPickle That's a starter
 
ikr
I was reading "HeadFirst C#" or something.
 
1:39 AM
That is a good book.
 
Got stuck on the first task that they didn't give you the source code.
 
What task was that? I don't have the book with me.
 
The greyhound race thing
 
Ah.
 
"DAy at the Races"
 
1:39 AM
I skipped those.
Too much time.
 
Objects. Objects everywhere.
 
in WPF you have two programming languages. Xaml and C#
ha ha
 
AKA OOP (Object Oriented Programming)
 
@EliteGamer Yes, XAML is based off XML.
 
1:40 AM
I understand objects, I just don't understand them
 
ik! ep! fo! ja!
 
I expected that KenDoll :D
 
I know what they do, but I don't know how to use them
 
@CCInc yea i know it is a markup language
 
@CCInc Bull.
 
1:41 AM
I did. I thought "Ken Doll was about to make a sarcastic comment about something"
 
"I predict CC Inc's next message will be about something"
 
How do you get pictures in messages :O
 
Am I good, or what?
 
@KendallFrey Amazing.
 
@ProfPickle like Oleg did?
 
1:44 AM
@KendallFrey You were right!
@EliteGamer Yeah
 
you just paste the stackoverflow link
copy paste
 
That's not an image, that's a question.
 
well
 
1:44 AM
Or just use teh botz
 
That didn't work.
 
a stackoverflow link
well, for the question
 
@ProfPickle That's not an image link.
 
.png
.jpg
or
 
good point
 
1:45 AM
There was a page on the wiki explaining this.
 
has to have the extention
@KendallFrey why do i get an error in my xaml here
<shell:WindowChrome.WindowChrome><shell:WindowChrome ResizeBorderThickness="6" CaptionHeight="43" CornerRadius="0,0,0,0" GlassFrameThickness="0"></shell:WindowChrome></shell:WindowChrome.WindowChrome>
 
Links to images, stack exchange pages, amazon products, tweets, wikipedia articles etc. onebox, that is, they appear as thumbnail.
 
The property Window:chrome was not found
 
About damn time
 
1:46 AM
@KendallFrey It's on the FAQ I believe.
 
@EliteGamer What's the error?
@EliteGamer Um, are you sure that's the error?
 
yea
well, it is blue underlined
 
And where is the underline?
 
at the begening
 
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1:48 AM
@CCInc WOW
i really needed to know that
thanks
 
@KyleTrauberman fix teh wiki! NAOOOOOOOOOO!!!
 
@KendallFrey I think he exceeded his free Azure limit
 
I think so too.
 
me?
 
Your point is...?
 
1:49 AM
Feb 13 at 21:38, by Kyle Trauberman
so I finally figured out what happened with the wiki.
Feb 13 at 21:38, by Kyle Trauberman
apparently, the free mysql db that azure gave me had a 20MB size limit, which we hit.
 
@EliteGamer You've added a reference to the assembly, right?
 
yea, the Shell
 
I wonder if you can have ...?
 
dll
 
And he won't "pony up the $$$"
 
1:50 AM
Oh goody
 
@KendallFrey assembly? is that the dll file?
 
Hmm. WTF.
It should be available in vanilla WPF.
Maybe it's only available in 4.5
 
...
 
If so, you should rewrite in 4.5.
Seriously.
 
well, i have no idea
 
1:53 AM
About...?
 
`using Microsoft.Windows.Shell;
using Microsoft.Windows.Shell.WindowChrome;`
 
If I was you, I'd just read msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/….
 
i added them
but i still get the error
 
You added the xmlns:shell, right?
 
um
xmlns:shell="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml/presentation/shell"
yea
 
1:56 AM
Just upgrade to 4.5
 
i have Visual C# express 2010
 
So get VS 2012 Express for Desktop
 
is it free?
 
Of course.
 
why should i upgrade?
 
2:01 AM
Why wouldn't you?
 
is it a different layout?
 
Just a bit, maybe.
 
"I have Windows 95, why would I upgrade to Windows 7??"
 
It's much the same.
@CCInc Even if it's free.
I wish I could upgrade my car for free.
 
ha ha ha
i am going to cry
i love you Visual C# 2010 Express
 
2:03 AM
You can still use it.
 
But I don't know why you would.
 
they why install a whole new IDE?
 
.NET 4.5 is awesome.
 
ok
like what\
 
2:04 AM
@EliteGamer So you get .NET 4.5.
 
new controls?
 
Like WindowChrome.
 
oh
built in?
 
Yes.
And other Windows 7 features.
 
OMG why did i not do this earlier
(because i did not know of it)
 
2:05 AM
lmfao
 
how many monitors do you have?
 
2, why?
 
idk
i have three
random
and yet i still need more space ha ha
 
I would have more, if I had more.
 
woah
does the VS come with all languages?
 
2:06 AM
Yes.
 
Well, not all languages.
REBEL, for example.
 
the last thing i want to do is program in C++
ha ha
objective C was hard enough to program an app
 
You don't have to program in C++.
 
but it was fun
i know
 
2:07 AM
Hey, I program in C and like it.
 
@KendallFrey do you think you would want to learn how to make iOS apps?
 
Even assembler sometimes.
@EliteGamer Not really.
 
yea, it is kind of a bore
 
I'd probably get bored and make my $99 fee a big waste.
 
ha ha
my school is paying for mine
 
2:09 AM
Ubuntu phone apps, on the other hand...
 
since i am making an app for them
so
i am installing it now
VS 2012
is it Express 2012 for windows Desktop?
 
in JavaScript, 1 min ago, by Badger Girl
You're the best programmer ever, marry me.
 
2:46 AM
cc> Console.WriteLine(String.Join(",",(new List<int>{1,2,3,4,5}).Select(x=>2*x).Where(x=>x>4).Select(x=>x+"")));
 
Wonder what happened there... the Join was replaced by "Joizwnj"
 
That code runs here
Seriously, just deploy Roslyn into appharbor
It's probably better than using that ide thingie
 
But me no have VS 2012
 
6 messages moved to Trash can
 
3:40 AM
helloooooo every one
 
3:54 AM
ghi
 
4:15 AM
@CCInc Hello again.
 
hi
 
more party cc inc?
 
@sublime.Hat You bet ya
 
!!/urban pickle
uh oh
its gonna be bad
!!/urban pickle
hey
!!/google hello
 
Party Hard!
 
4:27 AM
@sublime.Hat pickle a tricky situation; a conundrum
must...party...drink...vodka...---
 
Before you go off partying, I have a query.
I have a test C# script that I want to be able to run from the command line (as it executes via it).
The code is:
`using System;
public class Args
{
public static void Main(string[] args)
{
Console.WriteLine("There are {0} arguments being parsed.",
args.Length );
for (int i=0; i < args.Length; i++)
{
Console.WriteLine("{0}", args[i]);
}
}
}`
 
whoa
 
Are there any commands out there?
 
commands out there...?
from command line...
 
That will execute my script (and parse arguments to it)
...Batch commands
 
4:34 AM
dunno. probably
 
I've heard of csc, but I can't find it.
 
5
Q: How to get csc.exe path?

yperIs there a way to get path for the latest .NET Framework's csc.exe? The file usually in: c:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\vX.X.XXX but the problem is there can be multiple versions installed + there are both 32 and 64 bit versions. Any solution to this?

like that?
 
Ohhh yeah
Thanks
 
cool beans
 
Doesn't want to work for me
 
4:40 AM
?
 
error CS1619: Cannot create temporary file
'c:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\CSCC7E7.tmp' -- Access is
denied.
 
weird...
 
Indeed.
Maybe I don't have the right syntax
I'm doing csc "File Path" Parameters
It's also saying that it can't find the parameters, so if I put csc "file path" A it says
A cannot be found
 
Sample Command Lines for the C# Compiler
Compiles File.cs producing File.exe:
csc File.cs
Compiles File.cs producing File.dll:
csc /target:library File.cs
Compiles File.cs and creates My.exe:
csc /out:My.exe File.cs
Compiles all the C# files in the current directory, with optimizations on and defines the DEBUG symbol. The output is File2.exe:
csc /define:DEBUG /optimize /out:File2.exe *.cs
Compiles all the C# files in the current directory producing a debug version of File2.dll. No logo and no warnings are displayed:
 
So many windows open
...Making progress. Got this error message now
error CS2001: Source file 'args.cs' could not be found
fatal error CS2008: No inputs specified
I copied csc.exe into the same directory as args.cs
 
4:52 AM
ok
arggg
 
Changed code to "csc /out:Args.exe args.cs", got the same error message
 

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