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8:00 PM
Does it npm-install every build?
 
@SterlingArcher it installs on the docker container
but if you install locally stuff gets screwy
I hate node-sass for that reason...
rm -rf node_modules
 
@rlemon Britney's face looooooool
 
So what's the benefit of docker here for development?
 
@BenFortune right?!
 
@JimJones I don't recall, but you're welcome.
 
8:02 PM
@SterlingArcher So you can say it uses docker
 
This docker-composer up takes like 20x as long to run as my npm script
 
@BenFortune lol no. @SterlingArcher so you dont need to have mysql and redis locally etc
 
> Call security
 
compose up only takes a long time on first run
every other run it should be up in a second or two
 
> Can I give Brittany the flowers?
<that face>
> Simon: How about you just give them to me
LOL
 
8:03 PM
dont use it if you dont want to @SterlingArcher ;-)
 
I'm giving it the ol' college try but the initial run is fucky
 
@RaisingAgent "ReferenceError: document is not defined"
@RaisingAgent "SyntaxError: missing ; before statement"
 
ERROR: for mysql  Cannot start service mysql: driver failed programming external connectivity on endpoint sourcereact_mysql_1 (1cb52d6705cbfb97a836c311faec2fa3e44e025cc068447214faf2a2698b173e): Error starting userland proxy: Bind for 0.0.0.0:3306 failed: port is already allocated
 
thx @Jhoverit, works in the console^
 
8:04 PM
I shut down my mysql server, shouldn't that port be free now?
 
user1596138
Haha oh no
 
@SterlingArcher That PR should not have been merged yet. it was a WIP, but none of it should affect your normal build. you dont have to use docker if you dont want to
its just an option
 
user1596138
He come back and got it
 
@SterlingArcher lol
I dunno
thats why i like docker too, once you kill it is frees up all the ports etc.
life goes on
 
Unfortunately if said ports are already active it tries to overwrite them, not use them
 
8:07 PM
you can use diff ports if you want. setting in the docker-compose but if you dont want to. lyfe goes on
again your old build still will work
docker just is there if you want to use it
 
Ever experienced that your network connection is too weak for an SSH connection?
 
@Neal no worries, I reverted the PR until it's ready
Early merge didn't work lol
 
eh why revert it?
you dont have to use docker.
it can still be there and your old stuff still works
;-)
 
You said it should not have been merged D:
Stop confusing me lol
 
lol I meant the docker part, but your old stuff still works ;-P
the non working docker can still be there it just wont work
 
8:12 PM
@StuntHacks Yeah actually, check out Mosh
 
also new commands are npm run build and npm start (for server)
 
@BenFortune Looks interesting, thanks!
 
 
> Then Mosh runs the mosh-server remotely and connects to it over UDP.
Worrying.
 
It's not as secure as SSH, no.
But UDP is good for flaky connections
 
8:15 PM
udp could be secure, i assume, but still worrying that it's something new that may have it's own vulnerabilities
but looks useful.
 
I think it still uses SSH for auth
 
Well since I am not sending any sensitive data I will be fine
 
> Mosh leverages SSH to set up the connection and authenticate users. Mosh does not contain any privileged (root) code.
 
yea, but another port open with someone elses code.
ssh is old and widely used.
still tempting. it solves problems i have had.
 
It's also more CPU intensive IIRC
 
user6560716
8:18 PM
Just wondering: what is the opposite of interpret? The opposite of compile is decompile, but what about interpret?
 
I read that as "It's also more CPU intensive [than] IRC"
was kinda confused for a sec
 
expound?
 
😛
 
De-Interpret maybe? But why would you want to reverse an interpreted program? You already have it's code
 
Misinterpret...?
 
8:19 PM
I'm not sure I follow.
 
Uninterpret?
 
source code.
 
no. if you have the code, you only need to intepret it. Please rephrase the question.
 
Lol
 
@programmer5000 There is no opposite of interpret, because there's nothing to start with to give you source code.
 
8:21 PM
yes. interpret is like 'execute'
it can't be undone.
and doesn't need to be.
 
It already is "undone" in the beginning
 
so was my fly
such an embarrassing day..
 
give us examples. the abstract question isn't working.
 
maybe he's looking for something like an AST in JS?
 
user6560716
clarification: I have a language that is intepreted in JS. What would you call converting JS to that language?
 
8:22 PM
@Luggage reverse to previous state?
 
code generation
 
You just said it
 
also 'compiling' can be one language to another. (sometimes called 'transpiling', a made-up word)
 
inb4 transpiling
 
or even one language to itself.
 
user6560716
8:23 PM
@Luggage Oh, didn't know that
 
babel compiles my js to js
 
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Don't listen to @towc
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transpiling is just a specific form of compilation.
 
Ben Fortune has invited you to join Trash Can
 
it's all compiling
 
8:24 PM
@BenFortune knock that @ off
it's not genuine otherwise
 
@towc Lala not listening
 
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
 
we need Don't listen to @towc laptop stickers
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we need tshirts
 
That can be the new name for source undead.
 
8:26 PM
cc @SterlingArcher
 
@rlemon Will print one tomorrow lol
 
new mechanic. someone in the game keeps yelling about lambdas and attracting all of the zombies.
 
Those should go into mass production
 
you must kill towc before he gets you killed.
 
I was thinking the zombies would be moaning "lambdas" instead of "brains".
 
8:27 PM
and Zombies can only pursue one person for a short amount of time before they get bored and move on
 
> Lambas... lambdas... haskell.. brains.. i mean lamdas.
 
@towc <3
 
@rlemon LOL
if he gets more zombies following him than you he wins
 
lol
 
mixed that up oops
 
8:29 PM
I'm actually not offended
yay I'm the center of attention
this is great
 
@towc how do you feel about being the antagonist in Sterlings game?
 
you see an insult, I see an opportunity
actually I don't know what you see
 
dead people
 
fair enough
 
Requested a house move with my ISP, they cancelled my service.
10/10
 
8:33 PM
does it matter where you live?
shouldn't you be able to just pick up the box and move it?
 
the line
 
or do they not have coverage?
 
they need to turn you on at their end
 
They still have to activate your services, and install any external equipment if needed (Sky dish)
 
oh, I thought the box did that itself
 
8:34 PM
and attach the address to your billing information
 
by some key or something
 
Some go off the router's MAC address
 
@Luggage I couldn't stop myself: const pretty = (arr, oxford = false) => arr.join(', ').replace(new RegExp((!oxford ? ',': '') + '(?=[^,]*$)'), ' and ');
 
But all that does is register it on the network
 
facebook.com/viralthread/videos/801322363373782 @Jhoverit @Luggage @Mosho lmao
I tried to find the youtube link, sorry for the fb link
 
8:36 PM
RIP ears
 
why would you not use the oxford comma?
 
mawp
 
!!giphy mawp
 
8:36 PM
I'm... confused?
 
!!giphy my tinnitus
 
@CapricaSix shit man someone cartooned you?
 
lmao
 
bah that was meant for @rlemon
 
8:37 PM
if I looked like Archer I'd be happy
 
right?
 
dudes a sexy spy man
 
hm
I think I found the right terminal theme
 
solarized dark for me.
 
whatever the default is in cmder
 
I use sakura+fish. 80% opacity black background and white text, default fish scheme. Works really well
 
🍆🍆🍆
 
nyancat is literally dancing in the terminal
 
does anyone actually use green text on terminals?
 
8:40 PM
@FlorianMargaine how common is lisp in industry?
 
it's used a lot actually
tons of very well paid jobs with it
 
wat
that was a serious q
 
@SterlingArcher Common Lisp
 
8:41 PM
you made a joke without knowing it
 
Ask Mike Tython
 
whoops lol
 
@SterlingArcher not very much
I think it's even less common than haskell
hm
slack is down :(
 
> how common is lisp
> towc: common
> guy who uses lisp: not common
who to believe
 
Don't listen to @towc
8
 
8:42 PM
as in, you can find jobs with it :P
no programming language is common, if you put it that way
lisp is used in all lisp jobs
the lisp industry is actually rising
maybe not in percentage, but in amount
 
JavaScript is pretty ubiquitous if you want anything web facing.
 
coldfusion is really common in companies that use coldfusion
 
And Cobol is used in all Cobol jobs
Which aren't a lot
 
yeah, the Lithp industry is growing.
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@StuntHacks you seem to underestimate this.
 
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8:44 PM
I don't get that
 
@FlorianMargaine I know I know
 
suffered terminal burns
 
so npm v5 is interesting, works slightly differently
 
if I ever try lisp again, it'll be without emacs.
 
8:45 PM
oh now that's just mean
 
maybe on an iMac, though.
 
@KevinB coldfusion is also really common in companies with high suicide rates
 
anyone getting the new macbook that is coming out?
 
PascalCase or camelCase for state and prop vars?
 
@corvid @BenjaminGruenbaum might be. he's getting a new job and demanding the latest shiniest macbook
 
8:47 PM
@Vap0r camelCase I think
But fuck naming conventions, use snake_case
 
I'm still considering non-macbook alternatives for a better price, but may end up with a newer macbook one day
 
@corvid yo, can I borrow $5K?
 
extra__snake__case is cooler
 
there's only one person in this company who writes coldfusion
 
How about WtFCaSe?
 
8:48 PM
so are we agreed on snake_case?
 
button__submit-success--lg
 
@KevinB That's you right?
 
if you lead something up with TWO underscores, then it's a double private variable
 
only use PascalCase for classes, constructors, or single-object focused stuff
 
yup
 
8:48 PM
@SterlingArcher sails actually uses that
 
@Vap0r Yup, snake_case all the way
 
@rlemon button___SubMit-sucCess--lg
 
this.__super_private_variable
 
sails_blueprints__shortcuts
 
React uses PascalCase for Component names
 
8:48 PM
I start all my JS variables with $ because my code is money
10
 
__SECRET_DOM_SERVER_DO_NOT_USE_OR_YOU_WILL_BE_FIRED
 
@corvid Does this.___extremely_private_variable work as well?
 
^^ was looking for that.
 
I should start watching sterling
 
so I think we have finally agreed on $tack_Ov3rFl0w_cAs3 = "blah" right?
 
8:49 PM
window.TheThingThatGetsDataFromTheServer
^ actually part of the chat code
 
Don't watch me
 
@Vap0r $this_insanley-CoolVariable
 
only if it's oxford-comma first
 
@SterlingArcher it's 'correct' to use PascalCase for any class or constructor function.
 
> only if it's oxford-comma, first
 
8:49 PM
Somethingsomethingrlemonmoney
 
@rlemon omg
 
That's the one 😃
 
!!cry
 
8:50 PM
Is there a c++ interpreter in JavaScript?
 
I just had the weirdest need-to-know. Do you have an accent @rlemon?
 
@StuntHacks probably
 
I guess I don't hangout enough
@StuntHacks yes
 
you'd hear a Canadian accent
I don't
Kendalls is heavier than mine
 
you can compile a c++ interpreter to js, and use that
kendall has a canadian accent?
 
8:51 PM
Awesome
 
kendall is canadian?
 
only half.
 
Let's just write all my fron-end code in C++ from now on
 
Kendall and I had a date once
 
but the half that counts
 
8:52 PM
where's the other half?
 
@SterlingArcher I still have the picture.
 
american
 
@rlemon heretic
 
@StuntHacks DON'T YOU DARE
 
me too :D
 
8:52 PM
I write my back-end and native code in JS, and that's how it should be
 
@FlorianMargaine it's not my family 😛 don't look at me
 
@rlemon I don't care, you once spoke to him
 
@towc native code? like, what I write?
 
@rlemon that said, you're not even half canadian
 
I'm full Canadian
 
8:53 PM
@rlemon well, I toyed with electron
 
I'm meta-canadian
 
old Canadian ain't Canadian
 
it's ultra canadian
 
but if I need to do something for native, it probably won't be in another language
 
@rlemon (I got the joke)
 
8:53 PM
I basically shit geese
@FlorianMargaine \o/
 
@rlemon that's not what you're supposed to shit...
 
chew your food.
 
@FlorianMargaine I know, I need to chew...
 
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@StuntHacks Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
dammit luggage
THAT WAS MY JOKE!
 
8:54 PM
Too slow.
 
fake Canadian :shrug:
 
we don't shrug, we hold the door open for an inappropriate amount of time
 
:37495154     #include <jQuery.h>

    class Document
    {
      void ready()
      {
        alert("C++ rules");
      }
    }
Well
I
I'm too dumb for this chat
 
oh boy, just found Archer on kodi
I'm in for a ride
 
@StuntHacks google "Cheerp"
 
8:56 PM
Nice
Now just port PHP to that and I can start using PHP in the front-end lol
 
oh wow, til
 
@StuntHacks there is also a php to js interpreter
basically, there is <any lang> -> js
if you can think of it, there's a good chance it exists
 
malbolge?
 
But my goal is to hack everything in so that I can actually write inline PHP code (maybe as a string) in JavaScript and execute that
 
and they will only get more common.
 
8:58 PM
Front-End ASM
My Dream
 
Don't tell me that actually exists...
Of course it does...
 
@StuntHacks you don't have a lot of ambition, do you?
 
doesn't just exist, it's the next major step
 
And is already active in the major browsers
 
8:59 PM
you can only do calcs afaik, right?
no dom interaction
 
@FlorianMargaine Oh I do
 
or canvas drawing
 
I just like dumb ideas like that
 
then let me introduce you to my github
FULL of dumb ideas
 
Yay, dumb ideas!
 
9:00 PM
actually, no
it's 5pm
!!afk thin mints and mint thins
 
!!afk fat mints and mint fats
 
did the old lady at the beginning of archer say "the isis computer"?
 
aww.. i'm on a thin mint break.
 
@towc yeah
 
Archer works at ISIS
 
9:01 PM
the bad one
 
oh, looking at the memes I always assumed he was the weird unstable boss of a corporation
didn't get he was a spy thing
well, he is unstable
 
9:20 PM
dunno what I just watched
I don't want ants
 
9:34 PM
For the first several seasons they worked at a spy corporation called ISIS. When the actual ISIS appeared on the world scene the writers had to write the corporation out of the show, so they had it be that the corporation didn't actually have a license from the US government to do espionage. Then the characters got into drug dealing, and then created a private investigation company.
 
cheers
 
has anybody here used sorcery before?
/familiar with its functionality? I need to do a sorcery type thing but I have strings and maps not files...
no idea what to do
 
Well... typically it uses a pentagram drawn on the floor, but I've seen other shapes used as well. There's a lot of talk about goat sacrifice, but it's not strictly necessary.
 
9:49 PM
lol obligatory i guess
to be clear im referring to github.com/Rich-Harris/sorcery
:P
 
jqninja.js
 

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