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4:00 PM
but probably just road side suspension and car impounded
 
@ton.yeung no, it's not
 
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@rlemon hey I watched the canadian cops on Netflix and turns out your cops protocol is to choke people out when they act out?
 
in the US it's at least 50, usually more
 
My sister got caught doing 50 over
 
@ton.yeung 20 over is a ticket and points on your lic. then it goes up from there
 
4:00 PM
@Jhawins we do that in the US, when we can't shoot them
 
user1596138
I would honestly be more scared of cops in Canadia than here lmfao
 
She got away with a 49 over, which is basically just a fine and points
but enough points to suspend her license lol
 
@ton.yeung yea, the 20 might be 15? I know 10 over is just like "hey slow down"
 
user1596138
After watching people choke out on Netflix lol
 
@rlemon I don't know of anyone ever pulled over for 10 over
 
4:01 PM
@KendallFrey so did my mom. payed the "x copper" dudes to goto court for her, payed them like $400, got the ticket thrown out
 
my only ticket was 25 over in a school zone, but the cop kept complimenting my car and asking how fast it could go, so he just gave me 10 over normal
 
user1596138
Cops here have pushed me around but they don't do anything, they are scared you'll sue them.
 
@KendallFrey you can be. I've heard of it, never seen it myself.
 
10 mph over the speed limit in america is laughable
 
@KendallFrey near a school or if you piss them off otherwise
 
4:01 PM
I've been pulled over for 11 over, but never less
 
@rlemon oh ofc you can be, that's the point
 
but in driver's ed, they teach that 10 over is usually ok.
 
Hey, I have a girlfriend who lives in Canada! x)
Oh wait, that's a poor excuse if I'm in Canada, hun...
 
user1596138
In america you get pulled over for 5 over if the cops a dick
 
the speed limit might as well be +10, without paying for the cost of replacing the signs
 
user1596138
4:02 PM
10 is pushing it
 
@KendallFrey but there is no fine for it :D just a "hey, slow down"
 
in saint paul, the cops have told me that they don't bother with less than 13 over
 
:D
 
Nah, I've found that you can go 7 over with no issue
 
specifically 13, because the fine jumps at 15
 
4:02 PM
@ssube we've got mostly 80 zones here, so it's normal to go 20 over
 
user1596138
Unless you're on a highway then you can get away with a lot
 
just depends on where you're driving
 
@KendallFrey 80?? ohh right, country.
 
user1596138
"9 you're fine, 10 your mine" has always been the rule I knew
 
@KendallFrey kmh or mph?
 
4:02 PM
car insurance in america won't care unless you push 10 over the speed limit
 
city limits are MOSTLY 60kph, but some roads are 70
 
@ton.yeung local
 
@Jhawins you're*
 
hwy is 90/100 kph
 
4:02 PM
km/h
 
user1596138
@Neil They raise your rates even for non moving violations like a seat belt ticket, so yeah they care about ANY traffic violation.
 
but everyone drives ~60-70 kph in the city and 120-140kph on the hwy
 
But here people often drive around 115 km/h anyway.
Haha, exactly
 
@Jhawins seat belt is worse than speeding for fine/points in most states
 
@Jhawins maybe it is just this way for the southeast, but everyone goes at least 5 over the speed limit
 
4:04 PM
on a minor hwy 120kph is 'flow of traffic' on a major hwy it seems to be aroudn 140kph.
 
@rlemon 140 is getting to be pretty quick
 
user1596138
@ssube No it's not. It's a non-moving violation so you don't get any points on your license and it has one of the lowest fees.
 
There's an important gap between the legal limit and the publicly accepted limit.
 
@Jhawins I got radared at, um, 32 over or something
 
user1596138
But Insurance can find out about it anyway.
 
4:04 PM
@ssube think your interstates -- on our (ontario) 400 class highways the 'fast' lane is going 140 easy
 
@Jhawins not here
 
@KendallFrey smooth
 
@rlemon yeah, even I usually don't do 85mph on the freeway
 
mph in that case
 
I often do, but only when I'm trying to be an idiot
 
4:04 PM
@rlemon I almost never see that, come on
 
the one time I was trying to be an idiot and break 90 on a highway, I got a speeding ticket
 
flow of traffic on our big freeways doesn't clear 125 kph or so
 
@ssube some of your interstates are 80mph
 
mph, that is
 
if i'm going to do over 80, i do it only behind someone else goin 90
 
4:05 PM
@rlemon the interstates occasionally, yeah
 
user1596138
@ssube Your state doesn't even have a point system. So.
 
@KendallFrey really?! the fuck are you driving on.
 
There are 110kph highways out east :)
 
401, 407, 400 (I take often) I drive 140 always and get passed
 
damn
 
4:05 PM
@Jhawins this is both true and awesome, but they will still take away your license if you fuck up
 
maybe out the other way it is slower?
 
@ton.yeung
 
I go to barrie often
 
user1596138
@ssube So how is a seat belt worse as far as points/fines go? The fine is $25, points don't exist.
 
dui tickets come with a suspension
 
4:06 PM
I want to tell an agent "it wasn't me, the Earth was just spinning too fast in the opposite direction"
 
@Jhawins they care way more about it than 10 over
 
400 is a great highway
 
!!convert 140km to miles
 
@ShotgunNinja Confuse converter with kph, receive error message
 
they'll also use it as an excuse to search your car, where they usually won't for speeding
 
4:06 PM
beautiful, open, and usually means you're on vacation
 
@ShotgunNinja Confuse converter with km/h, receive error message
 
user1596138
So it's like when I was little and my parents got mad at me for being out late. But they didn't do anything about it.
 
@KendallFrey until you get out by hwy 6, then it just is one big fucking pothole
 
@ShotgunNinja
 
4:07 PM
@Jhawins they enforce seat belts and shit more than speeding
 
Capriconfused Six
 
parking especially, they love to nail people for parking
 
@Jhawins I was out an hour past curfew and got grounded for a month
 
:/
 
user1596138
4:07 PM
Oh so they enforce it more. Well yeah I can agree with that. I've had like 3 tickets for seat belts and only 1 other one
 
@ssube funny because parking is nailing people in itself
 
@KendallFrey right? I'm not driving to work this winter because of it.
 
@ton.yeung mum was making an example
 
They jack prices and most of the cheap lots are full, so it's $10+/day
 
@ssube ...no
 
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4:08 PM
@rlemon I took my 4 wheeler 20 miles away to my buddy's house when I wasn't allowed to ride on the road and had to wear a helmet in the field.. and ended up with permission to ride on the road as long as I wore a helmet and didn't have to wear a helmet in the field anymore. Logic
 
!!urban parking
 
@KendallFrey parking To engage in sexual acts in a parked car.
 
plus my work covers the $85 for a bus pass, so I can take infinite busses
 
I didn't even get home and my parents didn't even shout at me ^^
 
user1596138
But they were "mad at me" haha
 
4:09 PM
@KendallFrey oh, you crazy canadians and your sex
 
rlemon@rpi:~ $ node --version
v5.4.1
fuck yea!
 
My brother never came home last night
 
only took like 3 hours to compile node
but it works !!
 
yea?
 
user1596138
4:10 PM
@ton.yeung Haven't seen that and no headphones today :/ but I can assure you it's not me
 
@ton.yeung 18
 
@Jhawins beat yo kids skit
 
I think he got snowed in while snowboarding
 
@rlemon they've got debs, too
 
@ssube I don't mind compiling
 
4:11 PM
somebody gonna get a hurt real bad
 
just slow af doing it on the rpi
 
@rlemon oooh, you're one of those weirdos like Zirak
 
makes me look busy
people can see the screen flashing some commands and shit
makes me look smart
 
but for reference, they've got ARM binaries for deb
nodesource is the shit for new node releases
 
find me arm binary for chromium for rpi2 + jessie
 
4:13 PM
since node chose not to maintain their own packages
 
the chromium source was removed from jessie afaik and the installation candidate no longer exists for rpi2
 
user1596138
What's a use case for Object.freeze
 
user1596138
Pre-ES6 just froze objects, I think ES6 will let you freeze anything
 
Man, I remember a few years back, my parents were making fun of the fact I was just starting to go out at 18yo. I'd come back from a party and they'd say "so, what'd you drink? And what'd you smoke?" or "how many dances?". They had no idea x)
 
making it harder to manipulate client-side games likely.
 
4:15 PM
@Jhawins Object.freeze(Olaf); // bitch wasn't worth it
3
 
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Q: ES6 read-only enums that can map value to name

ssubeI would like to define an enum-like structure in JS, but have two requirements: The values be read-only, i.e. no users can assign to them. The values (0, 1, 2, ...) can be mapped back into the names (as with Java's name method) The methods I know to create enums like this typically meet one r...

 
user1596138
Hmm ok that's one I guess
 
user1596138
Anything more practical?
 
more practical than enums?
 
user1596138
Pick a different word than practical if you wish
 
4:17 PM
Anyone here, besides me, familiar with meteor or how futures work in javascript?
 
freeze is one of those features with a few use cases, but is super useful in those few
@corvid dude, we all hate and/or totally ignore meteor
and have for the last forever
 
@ton.yeung Man, I relate closer to Russell than Ryan, haha.
 
@rlemon dudeeeee wtf
 
@rlemon IIIIIIIII LIke it
 
@ssube Why "hate" though? It's not that bad, it's just that it seems to have a very specific application more than anything
 
4:21 PM
Someone's gonna get a hurtin'
 
@SterlingArcher you an elsa fan?
no brah, no.
she was cold af
(has never actually seen the movie)
 
Never seen it either
 
@ssube what use cases ? Defending against library users ?
 
Security? It seems very easy to make meteor applications reasonably secure...
 
4:23 PM
@SterlingArcher well Olaf is the snowman dude, and his famous quote is "some people are worth melting for" iirc. I presume he means elsa.
 
What do I need to read to understand why $('#some_id').val() or $('[name="some_id"]').val() would both return "", document.getElementById('some_id') returns "some_value" ?
 
@corvid kind of secure, but you still have all the "this does everything for you" problems
 
@SuperNoob jQuery swallows errors.
where are you running this? jQuery code in your script file and in the console the vanilla?
 
plus meteor doesn't support databases
 
4:24 PM
> The sun accounts for 99.86% of the mass in the Solar System. About half of the remainder is Jupiter.
and the rest is @KendallFrey's mom
 
@DenysSéguret yes, including the most dangerous user (yourself)
 
> You don't just go off scale on the Richter. The current leaderboard has an event called The Big Bang on top with a score of... 40. That's right, the entire mass-energy of the observable universe amounts to a pathetic 40 on the Richter. Never underestimate a logarithmic scale.
 
never actually thought about it, but this makes a lot of sense.
> The north pole is actually the earth's south magnetic pole.
 
@rlemon Running in script, error checking in console, both return empty strings
 
4:27 PM
@ssube yeah, that definitely is a problem. It abstracts you away from everything and makes it pretty annoying to get down to the nuts and bolts of it
 
@corvid look at their roadmap and all the critical features they're ignoring (i18n, react/angular, performance)
 
user1596138
@ssube lol "performance"
 
@rlemon That reminds me of the 2000dB speaker
 
Linkin Park is bad
 
@SterlingArcher Wow
 
4:28 PM
> In order to determine if the female giraffe is fertile, the male giraffe head butts her in the abdomen until she urinates. He then tastes the urine to determine her fertility.
 
@ssube I mean... if you're talking about weaknesses, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned that it really only officially works with mongodb
 
im banned ! i guess i got to many downvotes
 
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That's probably the most unappealing part of it, imo. Even if you like mongodb it kind of limits options
 
i need more up votes to unban ?
 
4:29 PM
@corvid I did way up
 
user1596138
@I-amSam Thanks for letting us know to watch you lol
 
@I-amSam Or you could just go away until it wears off.
 
@Trasiva it doesn't magically go away
 
@I-amSam what question are you worried about?
 
if he's question banned he needs to increase his overall score
 
4:30 PM
@rlemon That's the joke.
 
@rlemon wow, I'm more like a giraffe than I ever knew
 
unless it's the permanent variant, which would mean you ignored many warnings.
 
lol im new in here i dont know the rules ... im banned for a while now it wont go unban
 
Maybe you should try reading the rules
 
> There wasn't a single pony in the Pony Express, just horses.
 
4:31 PM
yeah ! i will
 
@rlemon Coudl you imagine how slow it'd be if they used ponies?
 
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also reactivity appears to be super slow and unnecessary 90% of the time
 
tks rlemon
 
@corvid yeah, so the moral of the story is that meteor is bad. That's why nobody here uses it and nobody can help you with it, not today, or yesterday when you asked, or last month, etc.
 
4:33 PM
> The Welsh were among the first to use sheep intestines as condoms. The English perfected them by removing them from the sheep before using.
lol
cc @phenomnomnominal
he likes sheep
 
user1596138
@I-amSam if I were you I would try and contribute to the community, get some rep, then start asking questions again. We have no power over this type of thing tho :P
 
I wish I could use just plain Node but company insists on meteor :\
 
@corvid then get a better job
 
@rlemon I love that joke.
 
yes i know ..im trying ! funny thing is that i dont know the resons for some of the vote downs ...
 
4:35 PM
The ESRB is a direct result of Mortal Kombat being released and parents being outraged at the violence.
TIL (cc @Loktar )
 
@I-amSam link the question
 
@rlemon the ESRB is a joke
 
well yea, but its origins are interesting (to me)
didn't know it was caused my MK
I fucking loved MK back in the day
 
user1596138
@I-amSam Your questions are sort of code dumps... If you work on reducing the problem to a MVCE you may have better luck
 
Reason I say that by the way is they have no criteria released on how they rate games.
 
4:36 PM
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Q: script only works on the first time (id is repeating)

I-am SamI have this uploading script and the form in the loop..it all works but the the document.getElementById(div_id).innerHTML = "Uploading..."; only works on the first iteration can any one help ? <script language="Javascript"> function fileUpload(form, action_url, div_id) { // Create the ifram...

 
Like Hatred got an AO rating.. but why?
When games like GTA get M
 
like this one...someone downvoted i dont know why
 
but yeah that is interesting regardless @rlemon
 
@Loktar because they went out of their way to piss people off
and GTA is too buggy to actually be offensive to anybody but developers
 
@I-amSam in that example, you didn't debug to see why the line wasn't working. Was it not working because the variable didn't contain the expected text? did it not find the element? etc.
 
4:37 PM
@ssube doesn't seem like there are any in the area
 
@ssube Buuuuuurn
 
woah, in 25-30 years we could run out of Helium
never thought about it being non renewable
 
unfortunately i think people downvoted that question due to it being a case of duplicate id, which you won't be able to improve on.
 
@rlemon in even less time we can run out of fucks to give
 
oh ok! ... but im kinda nob i didnt know where to go from there...someone helped me and i fixit :)
 
4:39 PM
@rlemon If I view-source I can see value="9999" on an input. but that value is "" if I inspect properties in chrome dev tools
 
@Failsafe no helium would be a shitstorm
we use that stuff for everything
 
@rlemon spacex better work fast to get our fat asses of the planet
 
or we can space-mine helium
 
@rlemon and China owns most of it, iirc
 
user1596138
@rlemon lol the medical industry mostly right? It's not like that's important or anything
 
4:40 PM
@Jhawins cooling
 
like eve online?
 
@Jhawins I think they may use it in refining other stuff
 
user1596138
Yea, cooling
 
petroleum refineries and gas processing use a ton of weird shit
 
user1596138
It's used in rockets
 
4:41 PM
liquid helium is a cheap-ish effective coolant
 
user1596138
Shit they use it for welding but we can use Argon for the exact same thing so no biggie
 
google tells me infrared detectors, nuclear reactors and the machinery of wind tunnels uses helium heavily
as well as MRI machines
 
user1596138
Pretty sure tho it's main use is the medical industry
 
user1596138
/Cryogenics
 
we need to goto the moon man
Helium 3 man
#theFuture
 
user1596138
4:42 PM
> Liquid helium is used in cryogenics (its largest single use, absorbing about a quarter of production), particularly in the cooling of superconducting magnets, with the main commercial application being in MRI scanners.
 
I went to the moon man last night
 
moon or mun?
 
moon
 
ohh moon man
 
the moon man, ifyouknowwhatImean
 
user1596138
4:42 PM
Ah so @rlemon it's for cooling in the medical industry lol. We each got half the answer!
 
we just need to mine the moon for helium 3, and the sun for good old helium
 
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@ssube They have React and Angular support on the roadmap as "past" FYI
 
it's out there, but can we setup those operations in the next 25 years?
 
@rlemon according to Destiny, no
 
@ssube don't they wanna be mining asteroids by like 2040?
by putting one in orbit around the moon
 
4:45 PM
@rlemon I'll be mining dat asteroid tonight
 
@rlemon pretty sure they are already working on it
 
I'm bored and need real work to do :(
 
mars by 2035
or 2030
 
@Failsafe well yea, if they talk about it generally that means they already have people trying to make it happen
 
@rlemon musk can do anything
#Musk2030
 
4:46 PM
Elon is the right amount of crazy, rich, and genius to pull off a lot of things
 
and motivated
 
@rlemon he also lacks specific direction, like all good managers
 
i love when he announces things and says "Well we didn't have that technology so we had to invent it"
 
@ssube he's getting better
 
he's smart enough to back the right things, but also smart/dumb enough not to micromanage
 
4:47 PM
it appears he is more hands off on that shit now
it's been what? 5 years since he's had a company go almost under?
 
user1596138
I bet he dies in some weird accident and for the rest of our lives we deal with idiots going "We'd already be on Mars if Musk was here... We'd already have lightning fast transportation if Musk was here... etc"
 
@Jhawins the next Tesla
 
user1596138
Yep.
 
user1596138
Assumptions. Maybe they are warranted, but plenty of assumptions.
 
my money is on him trying to invent teleportation and scattering his information into space.
 
user1596138
4:48 PM
lmao
 
@rlemon hes gonna invent a lot of shit before hes done
 
if we're taking bets on how elon eventually dies
 
A little help with a regular expression?
"1.2.1.3".match(/^(\d+.)+/);
 
he will drag us into the future whether we like it or not
 
result: 1.2.1.
I don't want the dot after 1. It should be: 1.2.1
 
user1596138
4:49 PM
I bet he keeps doing SpaceX and Tesla and that's it. Silly kids think he will change the entire world... He's got a few things going for him but outside of those areas nothing is going to happen.
 
@Jhawins Unless he decides to prove that his interns could really do the Hyperloop.
 
user1596138
Unless the train thing works. If that works he'll get the keys to the Earth and be allowed to do anything
 
user1596138
@Trasiva Yea, well they are building the test track right now.
 
@rlemon of course! I was wondering if there is a solution with a RegExp
 
crl
!!should I throttle keydown?
 
4:50 PM
@crl All signs point to yes
 
@Jhawins Not his crew, different company. Elon isn't doing it.
 
@Jhawins he wants to provide global internet, and has plans to make all of USA solar
 
crl
nah no need
 
user1596138
I wouldn't be surprised if that project ended with a dozen dead test subjects.
 
both of those will change the world.
 
user1596138
4:51 PM
Yeah Google bought a drone company to do global internet what, 5 years ago? And they just crashed one.
 
"1.2.1.3".substring(0, "1.2.1.3".lastIndexOf("."))
 
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user1596138
Facebook is also doing the global internet thing. (for profit but still)
 
@Jhawins yea but like we've been mentioning. if someone is going to actually pull it off, Elon has the best track record for doing the seemingly impossible
 
well he has the money if anything.
 
4:52 PM
and he's willing to spend his own money to make shit happen
he's proven that
 
easy to have grand world changing ideas if you can pay people to build them.
 
user1596138
Idk, I saw an amazing display of engineering when I saw them land that rocket booster. But does that really make him a genius in every area?
 
user1596138
And he didn't do that engineering. He paid a team.
 
@Jhawins he is a very talented programmer and pretty sure he knows a thing or two about engineering and physics
 
user1596138
The atomic bomb isn't attributed to Truman even though he ordered up the Manhatten project
 
4:53 PM
He isn't an idiot by any means. He is a very smart individual, but he isn't on the same level imo as Tesla or Edison imo.
 
user1596138
Bad example... But you know what I mean. Just like I don't think Steve Jobs was the one behind everything Apple did, he signed off on it though.
 
@Loktar timing is also to be considered.
I don't think we'll ever have another Edison (in our views)
because we are all more intelligent now
 
@rlemon we have plenty of billionaires who do cool shit :p
 
@Sandeep thanks. In other words, the right solution is not to use RexExp
 
exactly.
 
4:55 PM
oh wait you said Edison
I thought you said Elon :p
 
ohh we'll have plenty more Elons
 
Yeah things in general are just more complex, seems harder for one man to do it all.
Anyway not to discredit or even attempt to discredit Elon Musk at all, I just wonder how some of his engineers feel lol
 
@Loktar paid
 
He is ofc an innovator and great thinker in his own right.
Eh he was born in South Africa, and didn't have the easiest childhood.
 
@Loktar iirc he did not have a good childhood
I've seen a few interviews with him. how much is true.. ??
 
user1596138
4:57 PM
Haha I won't start that today
 
@Jhawins he invented and sold paypal
 
> Musk was severely bullied throughout his childhood, and was once hospitalized when a group of boys threw him down a flight of stairs, and then beat him until he blacked out.
 
or was it ebay? I think it was paypal
 
paypal @rlemon
 
yea
that is how he made his fortune originally
 
user1596138
4:58 PM
@rlemon lol I was just making fun of the logic in that argument, I know he is self-made.
 
then he put his entire personal fortune into tesla to pull it out of the grave
 
user1596138
And the whole government bailout...
 
user1596138
Tesla got one the same time GM and Ford did
 
@Jhawins hah really?
 
user1596138
Yeah
 
4:59 PM
Also Ford didn't get any
 
yea but he still put his own 30 million into it
you should watch his interview response to that
 
Ford is one of the domestic companies that survived on their own
 
user1596138
465 million dollars
 
user1596138
Ford got one too, same time. But the terms were less "We're saving your ass" and more "Pay us back next week"
 
4:59 PM
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