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12:00 AM
yo
what's up?
 
Nothing really, still working on my chat :)
 
noice
 
I'm busy writing cover letters ;_;
 
cool
 
12:06 AM
@Ahmad what do you think :/
 
looks really nice!
 
Looks cool
 
inspired by ubuntu?
 
I have never used Ubuntu, is that what it looks like ?
 
the background reminded me of it
and the color scheme overall
 
12:08 AM
Okay, they do look sort of similar :)
What is the minimum age i should allow?
@Ahmad @Firedrake969
 
14
 
Thats what i thought
either one :D
 
13 since a bunch of sites have the same requirement
 
Okay, i also need to come up with a terms of service :D
 
12:10 AM
lol
that's always the fun part
 
Yep
takes forever, and no one really reads it
 
yay php, gotta remember those semicolons
 
Yep :D
Alright, philosophy time! was the US right in declaring war on Germany in WWII?
@Ahmad @Firedrake969 ?
Why, or why not?
 
hey you have exactly 2k rep
errrm
yes, yes of course
 
Um
Sure, I guess?
 
12:17 AM
everything that followed was just messed up
 
Why?
I disagree, they had no business declaring war on germany
 
Considering that the Japanese bombed a US harbor for no reason...
 
why so, jacob?
 
#1 the Japanese were provoked(another topic), #2 what did japan have to do with germany?
 
japan and germany were allies
 
12:19 AM
Exactly
 
Yes, but why does 2 countries being allies make the united states send millions of their men of to battle germany, 200k of which died?
 
They battled Germany because Germany was an ally of Japan.
Numbers don't matter - the reason does.
 
One of the main things they ran was that the US had a 'moral obligation' to attack germany, the killed 20mil innocent people
but that argument is stupid
Want to know why? :D
 
Go ahead
 
wait wait wait
11 million
6 of which were jews, 5 million non-jews
but yes, go ahead
 
12:23 AM
i heard 20 mil
but 11 mil is even worse for the moral case
 
I'm german, trust me on the number :p
are you sure? 11 million are 11 million too many
 
in punishing germany, they supported Stalin, who murdered 72 million.
 
> A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.
 
11 to 72 mil, who was worse?
 
12:25 AM
- Stalin
 
And then they went into cold war against Stalin
 
just like the rest of the americans screwed up policies, we do it over and over again, support a tyrant, then find ourselves attacking him 10 years later
 
We use one evil to eradicate another.
 
well, the US politics is full of examples like these
were you declare your once so good friend your enemy
because they change interest
 
US foreign policy is a joke
 
12:27 AM
the Taliban, under Laden was financially supported by the CIA
trained by the CIA
to fight the Russians in Afghanistan
I am not making this up
 
I am not suprised
at all
 
"warrior" "peace"
 
Yep
Oops
Anyway, the problem is the US government is too big
 
History is written by the winners. And no matter the outcome, the US is always the winner.
 
Not always, vietnam
 
12:32 AM
Too big?
How so?
 
No
 
Vietnam was a complete failure.
Ugh.
 
they won in vietnam in the long run
nobody cares if they lost the war
they "won" the whole thing - the cold war
 
They lost the Vietnam War, which still was a war unto itself
 
however, I will come back tomorrow, g'night
 
12:33 AM
'night
 
@Firedrake969 the federal government was created to hold the states together, protect them from threats, and deliver mail.
no wellfare
no medicade
no public school system
no FDA
no DIF
 
Heh, shows how much we've improved since then!
 
when the government spends $200k creating a robot squirrel, they are to big
 
Yeah, an example of "wasted money"
and then there's the internet... and phones... and GPS...
 
@Firedrake969 yes, they may be nice, but they are not given that power anywhere in the Constitution
 
12:37 AM
Oh, and where does the Constitution say anything about anything related to electricity?
The constitution's been changed quite a bit based on the needs of the government and people
 
The constitution basically says: the people have a right to anything they want, as long as it is not infringing on someone else rights
 
That's one way of translating it.
 
Such as, if someone wants to smoke pot, they can smoke pot, but if they smoke pot and hurt someone, they should be punished
And the punishment system is messed up to
 
agreed.
Rich people with good lawyers can get away with a lot
 
See, i knew we would :D
going back to common law isn't a bad idea, though common law would needs some improvements
 
12:42 AM
lol
 
In common law, the court has no power to punish you, it cannot force a punishment on you
you can either accept the courts verdict, and pay the price, or become an outlaw, and pay the price
when you are a outlaw, the court will no longer accept your case.
someones chops off your arm, they will not be tried
someone chops off your head, they will still not be tried
they also had a way of getting rid of bad judges....lol
if he was bad, they hauled him out and executed him, judges were very careful in making sure that the verdict was right
any way, i need to go
 
@Firedrake969 just to make it clear, i love america it is the best country in the world :D
 
 
14 hours later…
2:46 PM
Hey
It's not f*cking possible
My internet is broken...
 
3:13 PM
Working again
I am now needing 6 private repos, so I'm upgrading my GitHub account :P
$12.
Still, less than my income with the new project(Got an "sponsor", i.e. pre-alpha user paying a lot)
 
3:46 PM
Anyone there?
 
yes hi
 
how are you?
 
I'm doing great
 
3:47 PM
You?
 
i am ill :(
 
@JacobGray 13.
@speedDeveloper Oh.
Shame
14 is exaggerated.
Actually, keeping things closed source allows you to say it's artificial intelligence, even knowing it's just RegEx.
 
Sam
Hiya
@GabrielTomitsuka lol
 
hi @sam
 
Sam
3:52 PM
@speedDeveloper Hiya
So, whatchya guys up to?
 
@Sam I'm developing that web crawler.
 
Learning Python
 
Sam
@GabrielTomitsuka Oh, right. Using regex. right?
@speedDeveloper :O
 
@Sam Actually, it depends. Sometimes jQuery is enough.
 
With Raspberry Pi
 
Sam
3:54 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Oh, how so?
@speedDeveloper Cool :D
 
@Sam Look at this sample:
request('http://www.thesailor.com.br/2012/?page_id=5', function (error, response, html) {
        if (!error && response.statusCode == 200) {
        var partyArray = [];
        var $ = cheerio.load(html);
        $(".portfolio-item .portfolio-item-details h2").each(function(counter){
                                                             var returnedItem = $(this).text();
                                                             console.log(returnedItem);
                                                             partyArray.push(returnedItem);
 
Sam
... right.
 
At the end, you need to do a small RegEx for separating the date from the party's name, but for multiple purposes that's enough.
 
Sam
Oh, I see.
@speedDeveloper D'you know any other languages?
 
Yes Java, JavaScript and PHP
 
3:58 PM
in Java, 2 mins ago, by Unihedro
@atul329 Do you know how to use a computer? And why would a perl script not suffice?
 
Sam
lol
 
Protip: Prefix your rhetorical questions with "Do you know how to use a computer?" when someone treats you like their local help desk.
 
My 1st client wants to verify in 40 nightclubs if there are new parties scheduled. Then, my crawler will send to his DB that will update a website with the parties in the city. He already does some money with this, but using a real web crawler would send his reach to global.
 
Sam
@Unihedro scribbles down note
 
@Unihedro Makes sense.
When someone pings me randomly, I simply give a "Let Me Google That For You" link.
 
4:00 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka Google sucks. The fact that one even passes LMGTFY links shows their lack of understanding of online culture.
 
@Unihedro I pay them $5 p/month for having emails, I hate them just as much as anyone.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Heh, Google's app services sucks.
 
@Unihedro Google Drive actually works just fine for me to share stuff with people.
I simply don't want to pay for this!
 
@GabrielTomitsuka There are way better alternatives.
 
Sam
Google docs is pretty handy for real-time collaboration.
 
4:03 PM
If you have a little bit of electricity and bandwidth to sacrifice (like 1400V + 5 kB per year), host Etherpad.
 
Sam
Haven't found anything similar, yet...
 
I use Etherpad, I just don't share it with anyone I don't 520% trust because its IP reveals a door to a DDoS attack.
Which is bad.
 
@Unihedro I have a cloud server, so electricity is no problem, however bandwidth is trouble.
 
Sam
Since when was a DDoS good? ;D
 
@Unihedro Do you trust me 520%? :P
 
4:06 PM
@GabrielTomitsuka no
Not even Sam or Fox, actually, so dead chance for you :p
 
welcome, knew you wanted an honest answer
 
Wait. If you don't trust even Sam, who do you trust?
 
Oh, you didn't? Never mind
 
@Unihedro Doch! It's just fine.
 
Sam
4:07 PM
lol
 
@GabrielTomitsuka My manpower? :D
<- teaches a few other people to code in return for occasional workload
It's a win-win situation!
(nope, it isn't, but for the sake of optimism)
 
@Unihedro You're trying to mean you host Etherpad for no one but you?
 
Sam
@Unihedro ... and I don't blame ya, computers weren't built for security. It's so easy these days... so easy...
 
@Unihedro Win for him, lose for you.
 
@Sam I have to agree.
@GabrielTomitsuka well exactly
 
4:09 PM
<-- Pays people when has too much workload.
 
<-- Pokes the pack of wannabe coders he raise for help when has too much workload.
 
Sam
<--- Sets alarm cloak earlier when has too much workload.
2
 
I think my strategy is the worst and Sam's is the best.
 
@Sam Brilliant.
 
Sam
:D
 
4:10 PM
And mine is pretty expensive.
 
@GabrielTomitsuka Mine is even more expensive, because time is money!
Poking is an ineffective way of bringing attention, so.
 
Sam
@Unihedro True, but in the long-run, the coders gain experience.
 
@Sam I guess you could apply the Tycoon Game Strategy.
Anyone isn't busy right now?
 
Sam
@Unihedro Erm, which is?
 
@Unihedro Sorry.
 
Sam
4:14 PM
@Unihedro I'm free for a few mins.
 
@Sam investment -> permanent residual income (either virtual or practical)
@Sam Ok, do you know a lot about graph theory?
 
Sam
@Unihedro Oh, gotcha (I knew of it, just forgot the name).
@Unihedro Define "a lot". ;)
 
@Sam Enough to solve a simple database relationship problem I'm stuck on? :D
 
Sam
@Unihedro Sure, it's worth a try.
 
Well, I have this:
1. Each user is a unique node which includes a unique value of an integer (from 1) representing itself.
 
4:16 PM
Could I do a cron schedule every 24 hours?
 
Sam
@Unihedro Right.
 
Sorry, could I set the cron hour to 24?
Found the answer
No
 
2 A. Nodes (users) may form 'node -> node' (one way) relationship whereas if both nodes forms a bidirectional relationship, it is automatically stuck and raises a flag so that neither can revoke again without breaking the relationship entirely with (B):
B. Or a specific node can ban or break a relationship, with '|' denoting a shield: 'node | ... node'
3. Each interaction activity is logged (it must involve at least two nodes!!) into a separate table.
So there are the three tables I need, but the graph for designing 3 is nearly impossible because one of the fields are dynamic, unless I want to break down from [a, b, c] -> [a, b] [a, c] [b, c], which is silly.
 
Sam
Hmm.
 
A possible way is to do like this:
KEY GP ID details
0   0- a blah
1   0  b
2   0  c
3   1- a add friend
4   1  b
The problem is that I'd duplicate values for GROUP BY to work.
 
Sam
4:26 PM
Is 0- under GP intentional?
 
Yeah, it denotes the leader of the group so I wouldn't have to duplicate details.
Though now it won't GROUP BY.
 
Sam
I see.
 
Have you ideaz? Maybe (2) needs improvement.
Currently (1), (2) and (3) are separate tables for the task.
 
Sam
I'm just thinking... so what's this for exactly?
 
It's an abstraction for a mailing list problem.
 
Sam
4:29 PM
brain cogs kicking into high gear
 
The (2)... with a mailing list? (I don't use SQL so can't help)
 
Sam
@GabrielTomitsuka Yeah, I was just thinking about that
 
@GabrielTomitsuka It's an abstraction for...
 
Sam
So the problem here is if you went with the above solution you'd get dupes...
So, why not add another field?
 
What field should I add?
 
Sam
4:34 PM
That's what I'm currently trying to think up.
 
Hmm, I think the problem is that there aren't arrays.
A way to achieve "fake" arrays is to have a table that uses shared unique indexes, then putting "elements" in a stuck position (preferably) the next slot:
 
Sam
Sounds kinda hacky-ish.
 
[1, 2, 3] [4, 5] ->
CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE(int(max) arrId, int element);
INSERT INTO .... ... (syntactic sugar here)
0 1
0 2
0 3
1 4
1 5
 
Sam
Well, I guess that would help.
Tbh, I haven't worked with sql for a while, so I'm pretty rusty.
 
But here I'm no longer logging activity anymore, just who's involved in each action.
I guess I could use:
0 1 null
0 2 null
0 3 null
0 0 description
Ugh, no optimal way.
 
Sam
4:43 PM
@Unihedro Then add a field to define what the action is.
#dbsArentAlwaysTheBestOption
 
@Sam So in the 'fake array' table, we have the first field for shared unique indexes, the second field as the type of the elements for each element, and an extra record every 'array' sequence on a third field?
@Sam :S
But... Higher access speed if you use it often, free performance mined from slaving usage, easier to export :D
 
Sam
@Unihedro Same as file caching. :P
Yeah, exporting is easier.
 
@Sam Have time to visit the tag burnination room for a sec? I asked something :p
 
Sam
Sure.
@Unihedro Wait, how exactly are you keeping these "activities" logged?
 
@Sam Currently, this:
27 mins ago, by Unihedro
KEY GP ID details
0   0- a blah
1   0  b
2   0  c
3   1- a add friend
4   1  b
Mind you, GP is the group 'string' not an int.
 
Sam
4:52 PM
Oh, right...
 
(varchar, not string)
 
Sam
And ID is the node's ID, not some other thing.
 
5:19 PM
Tada!
 
@Sam Cool I think I'm going to get this to work now, thanks so much! :D
 
Sam
@Unihedro Np, glad I could be of assistance. :D
 
 
1 hour later…
6:35 PM
Anyone on?
 
yep
 
Hola everyone!
 
I'm writing the reference and schema for my project.
 
What project?
@GabrielTomitsuka
 
6:42 PM
yesterday, by Gabriel Tomitsuka
I think I'll start building a web crawler as a service and market it as Montreus Scalable Web Crawler(SWC).
 
Oh, cool
I have always wanted to make a web crawler, just for fun and to see how it works :D
Anyway, i have a meeting gtg
 
@JacobGray I pretend to make US$1000+; But that's probably unrealistic. I will surely make at least 100 bucks out of this.
Bye!
 

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