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2:07 AM
hi
 
 
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3:15 AM
the #2, #3 and #4 things in the contest are things you can't download :|
@AlexDrenea you can't get at anything in the ui thread from a worker thread until you pass a reference in
@AlexDrenea so pass in a reference by postmessage
 
the prizes could've been better...heck RIM gave out playbooks just for writing an app
this is just a no incentive for writing an app
 
i don't understand why people are allowed to vote on an app that doesn't exist
fully half the apps outranking me in the contest are apps nobody's ever used
oh well.
 
exactly..voting is dumb
now i don't even want to write an app just because i'll see stupid ones getting a prize
 
oh come on :)
you weren't writing an app because of this contest, were you?
no sour grapes
maybe the wrong person wins, but the real prize is being in store
go make an app! (and vote for mine)
i've got an app with almost 5000 users. lemme tell you, that feels good. you can have it too.
two days i should cross 5k./
@Kakira c'mon, put a game together. it's fun!
 
;)
 
3:24 AM
i'm about to push my third app into apptivate tonight, and my sixth into store
 
nice! How fast is the approval process on average?
I'll try porting my game over
 
 
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8:34 AM
any one uses HTC windows phone 8s ?
any reviews ?
 
9:05 AM
Hey Guys, can i ask a quick one
i want to know if anyone have a good silverlight(xaml), tutorial for windows phone 8 dev, i started today with it and i need to get a good overview of how to start
 
 
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11:35 AM
@Arrie
@Arrie, you can start with videos from channel9.msdn.com/search?term=windows+phone+8
 
 
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1:21 PM
@Typist Thanks typist! will take a look at those :P
 
 
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3:02 PM
I read that MS plans to stop supporting SUA/Interix with Windows 8 - and I have a C++ middleware that I want to port to Visual Studio 2012 (as .NET). Should I forget about SUA as an option?
 
3:19 PM
Hello all,
 
Hello
 
innoveware.com/ql3/QuakeLight.html are you stuck in the void too?
When you start playing
Demos are playing fine
damn, I died
And Firefox hung
 
I need help in creating a drop down like control for windows phone application... searched on web, found many articles but none of them seems working
 
bang bang shoot shoot
 
3:24 PM
btw, I'm working on a HTML5 version on Quake
I've just implemented key bindings
 
Very cool stuff.
 
The rendering is almost done, the remaining parts are dynamic lights (currently replaced with orange spheres), visibility and particles
And it even supports Retina :)
One of the latest screenshots i.imgur.com/bPVZs.jpg
 
hi there
 
Hi
 
is windows 8 any good?
 
3:28 PM
Idk, I've only used Developer Preview
 
I ear good thing about it
 
But I don't like that it's oriented at tablets
And Aero is more pretty than Metro for me
I installed Win7 4 days before Win8 release
 
I use it full time for development (in a virtual machine). Takes some getting use to, but bearable
 
Ohai SiPlus, didn't expect to see you here
 
Ohai @LexiR
Are you Lexic from Facepunch?
 
3:31 PM
I like Windows 8, even on desktops/laptops
 
@SiPlus Yep
@wandarkaf The Windows Desktop on win8 is amazing but the modern ui is a bit naff
 
The Windows Desktop on Windows 8 is too...
plain
 
eh?
 
It feels like a DOS GUI application to me
 
You mean the ugly solid colour borders?
 
3:33 PM
Yes, and lack of gradients, 3D effects and one-color buttons
 
Because those are pretty ugly unless you tone them down to the neutrals
 
Windows Vista design is my favorite
 
you think the tablet based GUI is gonna be an issue?
 
Using the tablet gui with a mouse plain sucks
 
Tablet based GUI should be on tablets, not on desktops
 
3:34 PM
@SiPlus I believe that too
 
Modern looks good and makes me wish I had a touchscreen plugged into my computer but since I don't it's rather icky
 
I think Microsoft should evolve both Windows 7 and Windows 8, with Windows 8 core and different GUIs
Like Canonical with Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu
I don't want a touchscreen, it's somewhat shaky
 
Apps that follow the UX design principles work well with Touch, Keyboard, Mouse and Stylus.... The idea is all those gradients and such are visual noise.
 
now days it should look pretty
it sells better
 
"sells"
I hate this word
 
3:38 PM
me too
but maybe they think in that way
 
Use pretty content and a Windows 8 Metro app looks pretty
 
I like pretty
 
The biggest thing I dislike about Windows 8 is that Microsoft is demonstrating it with Angry Birds, Cut the Rope and Contre Jour instead of Crysis 3, GTA V and MoH: Warfighter
 
That's because Crysis 3, GTA V and MoH: Warfighter all violate the MS Store ToS
 
Really .. that's your biggest problem?
 
3:41 PM
the biggest problem is that microsoft is trying to be apple
 
If you put a word on the screen, and then you put a word with a bunch of visual noise around it, which is the clearer presentation of information? Nothing says your app can't be branded or pretty... I like they have taken the stance of minimalist design.
 
true that :)
 
is not the way
 
I mean, Microsoft doesn't care about games with high-end graphics
 
but who knows .. they might get away with it
 
3:42 PM
And focuses on stuff on late 1990s-early 2000s graphics level
 
... You know, I think that they do somewhat care about high end graphics
 
On Xbox
 
Well. Medium end graphics if you're talking about xbox ;)
 
can't wait until my Windows PC, Xbox and Windows Phone work as one
noone has done that before ..
 
I hope Microsoft isn't going to make casual games the primary games category on Xbox 360
And another bad thing about Windows 8
 
3:44 PM
Why wait, grab the smartglass and have at it.
 
Ads everywhere
 
Think about it logically. a) More people play casual games. b) More people have low-end PCs. c) Tablets are by their very natures low-end PCs
 
Are there ads in Windows 8 or are there ads in apps?
 
* googling "smartglass" ... nice :-)
 
Ads in apps
And Microsoft is motivating developers to add ads
 
3:46 PM
graaaargh PHP why do you have such stupid scope rules
 
Tablets that 'sell' are low end pc's I got a dual core i5 with 4gb ram, not a gaming PC but not low end also >$1000
Smartglass -> youtube.com/watch?v=Qvmg1uUoH6I Yup. I love they let a software engineer do the demo!
I wish they would promote the paid apps more, the only way people see them is if they click on the group heading or during the period they are new release.
 
@SoftwareDeveloper Love you, MS, do you feel the same, I don't wanna play gaaaaaaaaames
NO GAAAAAAAAAAAMES
OOOOOOOOOOOOH
why do I see only movies and browsing in that video?
Where are games???
Xbox 360 == PS3
 
Oh man .. I was living under a rock
 
@SoftwareDeveloper I wish they could promote free apps more
 
SmartGlass is awesome!
 
3:49 PM
Free without ads and without in-app purchases
 
Yeah like that'll happen
Freemium is the new standard
 
This new standard makes me want to vomit
I think I'll switch to Linux at some point
 
People have to make money somehow.
 
Not on small apps
 
Why?
Because you don't want them to?
 
3:56 PM
It's okay to make money on Photoshop, MS Office, Call of Duty, but it's just greediness to make money on widgets
 
"Greediness"?
 
yeah small apps should not make any money? crazyness. How is it greedy for me to make a couple bucks a day, only big companies can make money?
 
when big companies make money selling widgets... well, that's the problem
 
The problem with metro is that it's a tablet oriented design that doesn't work all that well on tablets...
 
@LordT starred
 
4:02 PM
And combine that with Windows RT/8 problems and you got a supposedly overall experience that isn't
... I really don't like the Windows RT experience atm :)
 
My non-techie wife loves it. She says the touch screen on her ultrabook is 'so natural'
 
user1241335
So did Win8 finally get a package manager (or did I hear wrong?)
 
@Shingetsu Windows Store
 
user1241335
@SiPlus so no installing drivers with it? XD
 
@SoftwareDeveloper "non-techie wife"
 
4:04 PM
@SoftwareDeveloper on a touchscreen on a laptop: problaby. On an arm tablet? hmmm
 
Only non-techie wives love it
@Shingetsu For drivers, there's Windows Update
 
no i7 processor ultrabook
 
user1241335
@SiPlus so it's not a full package manager, but it does get intrusive updates :O
 
Doris and Jerry are stuck in time...
 
tech writers slammed the mouse too...
i thought it was Jeff Brand coming today. Not Doris/Jerry
 
4:07 PM
ah, ok
Hi @JeffBrand-MSFT
 
Hi all... sorry I am late!!!!
 
@SoftwareDeveloper it is, and here he is now :) hi @JeffBrand-MSFT
 
Home router acting a little flaky today!!
 
@Shingetsu There's no such thing as "package manager" on Windows, Microsoft doesn't want to overcomplicate Win8, so they made a store for apps and automatic updating for drivers
 
Hi everyone - I'm Jeff Brand, a Microsoft Developer Evangelist based in Minneapolis, MN (brrrr) and focused on Windows 8 dev. Fire away with any questions you may have regarding Win8 Store apps!!!!
 
user1241335
4:08 PM
@SiPlus except a package manager is a much more simple and intuitive version. Having an uninstaller for each program rather than a united system and non-unified libraries is much more complex on the user as well as developers of the program, no?
 
user1241335
@JeffBrand-MSFT is automatic modification of $PATH (or unified $PATH dir) supported yet?
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT Will MS do any action to support free and optionally open-source software on the Store?
 
@Shingetsu not that I am aware of, though I will admit I have not looked at that specifically
 
By "free" I mean free from any payments or ads
 
user1241335
@JeffBrand-MSFT was the NTOSKERNEL.EXE updated?
 
user1241335
4:10 PM
@SiPlus FOSS would be nice too >_>
 
@SiPlus you can put ad free apps in the Store today. You can also use OSS in your Store app if you want. Or am I missing the question?
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT Does it make sense to develop Windows RT only or should one always consider both windows 8 and RT at the same time? If so, which development options are open on both plattforms?
 
user1241335
@JeffBrand-MSFT I think he wants to know whether MSoft will encourage putting completely free apps on the store in any way
 
@Shingetsu not sure off the top of my head - let me see what I can find out while chatting
 
@Shingetsu yes
 
4:11 PM
@LordT Besides the actual architecture behind is there really a difference?
 
I see the words "revenue", "advertisement", "in-app purchases" everywhere in the Windows Store promotional material
But nothing about free software
 
@LordT for Windows 8 Store apps, you get both RT and Win8 support "for free" so you should target both. The only time you need to worry about one or the other is if you are using code that would differ from one to another - SQLLite engine, for example. Even then, we encourage you to target both, though you can only support one or the other if you wish
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT SQLLite is supported for both RT and 8 right?
 
@SiPlus you can absolutely put free apps in the Store. We just want people to be aware of the ways they can monetize vis a vis other platforms. But if you want to go completely free, you can. There are lots of apps in the Store already that are completely free
@KronoS correct
 
What do you want them to do to encourage it, give away money? Free apps are promoted already more than paid apps. The store homepage features tiles labeled 'Top free' there is no 'Top Paid' tile on any category.
 
user1241335
4:14 PM
@JeffBrand-MSFT are dev tools available in the windows store? Like MinGW?
 
Do they use the Modern UI?
;)
 
Also I have seen no restriction on Windows Store free app count, where on Windows Phone you get 100 free apps per publisher ID (or at least that used to be the case)
 
O_O
 
user1241335
/me is just considering switching his cross-platform build environment from win7 to win8 (MinGW autoinstall would be nice~)
 
@Shingetsu I am not aware of specific tools in the Store right now. Dev tools can be in the Store, though it is important to note that non-Windows 8 Store apps (ie. desktop apps) that are in the Store are really just "placeholders" that point to an alternate install and purchase experience maintained by the app developer. You cannot install and/or sell desktop apps via the Store. Hopefully that makes sense.
 
user1241335
4:16 PM
@SoftwareDeveloper what is being asked is whether Microsoft encourages completely free (no ADS, top free often have ads) software and preferably open source
2
 
@Shingetsu MinGW is command-line, it's very unlikely that Microsoft is going to provide a link to download MinGW on the store
 
@Shingetsu What do you mean "Encourage"?
 
user1241335
@SiPlus all compilers are technically command line~ IDEs simply call them in an invisible process (something that becomes obvious if you use vim)
 
user1241335
@LexiR it's not my question, @SiPlus initially asked it. You should ask him ;)
 
MSFT is not specifically encouraging any type of app over another. We want you to be successful for choose the right monetization and source strategy that is best for you
 
4:17 PM
I think, Microsoft should give the Store access for free to non-profit developers
 
user1241335
@SiPlus +1 on that
 
There is an overhead cost to testing, provisioning, etc of an app. I think that is the rationale for devs paying a fee. That is my opinion only.... not an official MSFT position.
 
What about only a small starting price, like on Android?
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT Are there plans for the store validation process to give you more information about why apps aren't validated? Last I heard, quite a lot of the errors are along the lines of "Your app failed, go work out why"
 
With many payment methods for different countries
 
4:20 PM
Well android doesn't exactly have that testing overhead... :)
 
@LexiR we are trying to get better at that so there should be improvements going forward.
 
Why are there so many issues RE validating applications??? I finished an Metro-style application a couple months ago and it passed certification tests, then only a few days later (without any changes to code or anything) it was a complete FAIL.
 
if you have borderline results that could happen, if you have a 1.9 second result and the threshould is 2 seconds, your machine might be busy and go over?
@Jeff
 
@JamesKent the certification guidelines are evolving as we get more and more apps into the system. We start to see things that cause issues that we didn't realize would be issues, so we make changes. New environment and we didn't know 100% of the issues going in (nobody does in a system this complex). Things should start to smooth out and become more consistent with time
 
@LexiR yes, adding a "Reason" to rejection messages would be quite helpful. Ideally, also a FAQ how to fix ;)
 
4:22 PM
@JeffBrand-MSFT Good to hear. Do you have any plans for how verbose the errors are going to be? E.G. "Your application failed the responsiveness test because it took X seconds to complete the X process when machine restrictions X and Y where in place (Virtual memory size X, virtual CPU strength Y MHz)" and so forth
 
@SoftwareDeveloper correct. People get tripped up when different test hardware becomes involved, for sure
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT thanks, that's good to hear. I was banging my head all day trying to figure out what went wrong.
 
@LexiR they have not passed along what exactly the improvement will be yet - just that they are working on getting things better. I don't get consulted all that often in things like that :)
 
also, are there chances for Windows RT Desktop applications via the Windows Store?
 
I wasn't aware that Windows RT even had the desktop environment in the first place
 
4:25 PM
The updated cert policies are here - msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/windows/apps/hh694083 - and include revision changes at the bottom so you can see what is being updated each time
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT I have a request. How about ngening all store apps (unless they depend on MSIL) during the validation process for the most popular devices?
To improve speed
 
@wizzard0 no, you cannot build applications for the Windows RT desktop and thus, no way to put those apps in the Store
@SiPlus I will pass that along.
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT Thanks
 
@LexiR The Windows RT desktop is pretty much just for running Office
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT why not create a metro version of office and throw out the desktop of RT altogether?
if that's all that it's used for...
also I understand if you can't fully answer that
 
4:27 PM
@KronoS Perhaps the Office team refused to? ;)
 
Check out channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/… to see some interesting stuff coming on Compiling in the Cloud and how it relates to our thinking re:app Stores
 
"Compiling in the Cloud"
 
@KronoS lots of ways to look at it -- and this is ALL MY OPINION. There are touch optimizations in the new Office, but content creation is primarily a mouse/keyboard experience and people are familiar with the "desktop" metaphor for those apps. Path of least resistance maybe?
 
oh no
looks like there won't be PCs in the future
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT I am working on a Windows 8 app with a Windows Phone companion app, what methods would you suggest for communication between the two apps? this app can deal with some latency in the communication. I have used UDP previously on another app and it was terrible
 
4:29 PM
@SiPlus still be doing dev on a PC - cloud just gives other options
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT Ah that makes sense. Kinda of slowly wean them off of something they are already super familiar with.
 
@SoftwareDeveloper that's an open ended question :) Does it have to be node-to-node or can you have an intermediary in the cloud? I really like SignalR for those types of scenarios
 
Just for the record... I developed Windows 8 applications on a tablet, just to make the point. apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-us/app/tweaker/…
 
With a dock keyboard?
 
Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 will be able to go node-to-node using NFC which will then let you go to WiFi, WiFi Direct, Bluetooth - WP8 can also listen on sockets to TCP is an option
 
4:31 PM
Yes, Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. :)
 
Excuse me, but the text in tiles looks bad
Small padding, overflow, the tiles are too big
 
A cloud intermediary is ok.
 
@SoftwareDeveloper checkout SignalR then
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT What about UDP?
 
It doesn't need to be node to node. It is a quiz application, the phones would submit their answer to multiple choice questions. I had used UDP previously and it was horribly unreliable. Like not lost packet unreliable, but total chaos unreliable.
 
4:33 PM
@SiPlus UDP would also be an option
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT "MDIL is all about compiling to native assembly instructions whenever possible, and compile the rest to pseudo instructions that can quickly be translated to native instructions" How awesome
 
I had looked at libraries like Lidgren for reliable UDP but they were not compatible with .NetCore, that i could figure anyway
 
@SoftwareDeveloper that type of app could be a very good fit for SignalR IMHO
I have built prototypes doing essentially the same thing you are and used SignalR on the backend - worked very well
 
@sof
ups, sorry
@SoftwareDeveloper Use TCP then?
 
@SiPlus thanks for the feedback on the tiles. :) It's tough with the varying content, but I agree could use some visual 'tweaking'
 
4:37 PM
If you go with building your own TCP/UDP based solution, you have to essentially build a server/client type of exchange an either need a host node that will always be available or some kind of P2P election process. Moving to a central cloud backend simplifies things a lot
 
@SoftwareDeveloper How big is the latency with Bluetooth input?
I've never tried it
 
@SiPlus Compiling on the cloud makes quite a bit of sense, given each C/CPP compilation unit is distinct and can be compiled independently from all the others. If you drop each CU onto a different node and process them all at once, you can build huge projects in a fraction of the time it would take to do so locally
 
@SiPlus i've not noticed or measured it...
 
question: as i fill my listview dynamically, the gridview template may not directly suit my purpose so i may have to use media queries to manage scaling across different screen resolutions. can you please point me to any documentation on handling popular screen sizes. is it enough if I target a set of resolutions for certification or does it have scale for any resolution?
 
A little question: Does Surface have some way to press F1-F12?
 
4:39 PM
I was thinking of trying to use Azure Mobile Services as I am already using that for the Question/answer Data and Leaderboards.... This free's them from having to be on the same Wifi to play together.
 
Anybody is using Surface right now?
 
My wife is. :)
 
oh, well, WebGL is not supported on RT Firefox, looks like I don't need the information I want
 
4:40 PM
You can also use custom render functions in place of the HTML defined itemTemplate and select different templates in place of or in lieu of using media queries
 
Check out the ViewBox control for fixed layout scaling.
 
@SiPlus on your Type/Touch cover, use the Fn key in combination with a key from the top row of Touch Cover. For
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT and they will be passed to messages as F1-F12?
 
@SoftwareDeveloper if you are out in Azure already, you can just provision a SignalR implementation out there as well :)
@SiPlus that is my understanding. I don't have a Surface yet, but that is what I was told
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT Okay, thanks
 
4:43 PM
you bet
 
Still, can somebody please open this on a Surface, press the function keys sequentially and tell me the numbers that are displayed on the page?
 
thanks for the links. are there any samples on scaling across screen sizes a listview which is populated dynamically... @SoftwareDeveloper i've tried viewbox control but i'm not able to get it to work for a dynamic listview
 
oops, wrong link
 
@mvark what exactly are you having issues with scaling? Most of the time, you get scaling "for free" with that control.
@mvark channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/3-108 nice deep dive into styling the ListView - give you ideas on how to get started as well
 
Here's an odd problem. I'm using an ItemsControl with datatemplate that contains a webview within it, but I can't seem to get the control to scroll.
Works fine when I replace the webview with a TextBlock
 
4:47 PM
Normally I would wrap my entire page in the viewbox control, and then use the media queries to size that control. Are you trying to use it on just the listbox?
 
providing 100% width for the listview didn't work ...scrollbar doesn't show up....
 
definitely watch the video - shows the best way to get the initial layout up and running
 
@SoftwareDeveloper pastebin.com/sMatsf1b that's my Grid with the Items Control
 
without seeing your specific markup, hard to say what is going wrong
 
@SoftwareDeveloper pastebin.com/YeUMKPBy and that's the reference data template
@JeffBrand-MSFT see the two pastebins above
 
4:50 PM
@kronos I'll take a peek
 
Oh and if you're curious what WebBrowserHelper does here it is: pastebin.com/sx9p5vUC
 
ok will check the video...scaling is the last thing i'm stuck up with in my geolocation app - apptivate.ms/apps/1232/geobuzz BTW, i found your Twitter sample tutorial VERY helpful
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT thanks
 
@mvark glad you liked the sample - I need to get back to that and start finishing it off. Several things I still want to add. Sigh... more time needed :)
@KronoS Can't see much of anything just by looking at it real quick - would need to throw it into VS to really see what is going on. One question, why so many grids in your template?
For example, instead of
Why not just put <image Grid.Column="2" .../>
sorry for the bad copy-paste --- hopefully you see what I mean
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT will look forward to the updates to that article. i changed the layout of the ListView in my app from list layout to grid layout ...if this scaling issue persists, i may have to go back to list layout. do they check for all screen resolutions or are there a set of resolutions that they check during certification?
 
4:56 PM
@JeffBrand-MSFT ya I do... and honestly I just didn't know about it
 
@KronoS no worries :) Lot of overhead with grids that are not really needed - a lot being relative, of course
 
"it's your last chance to get help from an MS dev evangelist before the end of the Hack-A-Thon"
Question: Will there be chats with evangelist after the hackathon?
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT would you recommend using something other than a GridView? I'm still trying to figure out when to use GridView, ListView and Stack Panels
 
It all depends on the layout you want. In general, and this is very broad brush, the GridView is used the most since it fits the most with the horizontal content paradigm that is Modern UX
You probably won't be using ListView a lot since it only makes sense when you need vertical content scrolling - so snapped views and portrait views - not much if you have a pannable horizontal layout
stackpanels can be used in some places
hard to layout specfics for UX without any context :)
 
With the exception of Snapped view, is the horizontal paradigm prefered?
In my specific case, I'm actually scrolling the content vertically
 
5:01 PM
@KronoS yes - the entire platform is built with that concept in mind
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT :/ does that include the portrait orientation?
 
@mvark IIRC, they check that standard resolutions that are in the dev tools along with 1024x768. Not 100% sure on that, but if you cover those, you should be good....
does what include portrait?
If you are in portrait, you should scroll vertically
if you are in landscape, you should scroll horizontally
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT that was my question
 
snapped they want vertical too i think
 
the big thing is that you should not mix and match.
@SoftwareDeveloper correct
if you are in landscape, you should "pan" horizontally (meaning the main content pages scrolls horizontally) and you should not throw in content that also scrolls vertically (like a list somewhere in the big piece of horizontal content)
vice a versa if you are in portrait
 
5:04 PM
@JeffBrand-MSFT is it ok to have grid layout in landscape mode & list layout in portrait mode?
for the same listview
 
it would be cool if playto contract could be done more than once by an app... thinking of a whole house music distribution system app... I'll put classic rock in the kitchen, and some R&B in the bathroom.... But that's a fringe thing...
 
@mvark yes. If you remember, in my TweetScan app from the tutorial, when the app switches from full screen to snap, I toggle from grid layout to list layout --- actually much simpler than what you would have to do in XAML
 
Do you have a link to that tutorial?
 
@mvark same idea applies going from landscape to portrait
its on my block - slickthought.net
 
pinned. :)
 
5:07 PM
slickthought.net/post/2012/09/10/… is the last entry, with links to the other articles
just FYI... the source is no longer posted :(
shoot me an email jbrand at Microsoft and I can get a copy to you if you want it
 
oh, 'Ways You Can Use the Search Contract in Your Windows Game" - now I'm gonna have to add that to my pile of contracts.
 
@SoftwareDeveloper lol!
there is always something
I'll also be hosting an online "office hours" soon - win8officehours.eventbrite.com if you are interested
ok gang - I'm past my time and I have app review to head to. Hope you found things useful today and feel free to hit me up in the future if you have any questions
 
@JeffBrand-MSFT thanks for joining us!
 
you should blog on the Playto contract for games... people can put their game soundtrack onto their killer sound system, or they can use PlayTo receiver to make their own game soundtrack out of their music library on any DLNA device. Bye now!
 
@SoftwareDeveloper awesome idea!!!! thx!
 
5:13 PM
it's my favorite contract. :)
 
Question: Will there be B compiler for .NET?
main () { auto i; extrn hello, putchar; i = hello; while (*i != '*e') putchar(*i++); } hello "Hello, World!"; /* let's write in B */
 
I'm doing that on my Pub Quiz app here.
 
simple question: can I have a listview with both image items and normal text items?
 
@RedHotScalability Using a datatemplate yes
 
Yes @RedHotScal, you can do that by adding both to the item template
 
5:15 PM
I will google for datatemplate then
 

Apptivate Chat #12 with Jeff Brand

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@JeffBrand-MSFT Thank you for joining
 
oh lord... I have to make a custom itemsource template
 
yes thank you @JeffBrand-MSFT
@RedHotScalability It's not that difficult
Has anyone used Blend for VS 2012? I'm curious if it's worth using at all...
 
yes I use it
its good for noobs like me
If I were to make a chat application, what object would you recommend for displaying the chats? Right now I am using ListView
 
5:29 PM
@RedHotScalability I would use Skype or Messages app as a template
 
lol
is that an object in visual studio?
if you mean that I copy those applications, where can I find their source
i dont think its available
this sucks
i better head back to android
come on, i didnt mean it
give me a starting point for this
 
6:09 PM
Ah dang i missed it
 
missed what
 
Apptivate Chat #12 with Jeff Brand
 
i didnt even know u had to click on that link to enter the chat
i thought the chat was here
no wonder it was so silent here
 
@RedHotScalability the chat was here.
 
then why couldnt I see all the chats?
 
6:15 PM
no idea, but it definitely happened, right here in this chatroom. I was here. :)
 
SO chats are so inactive, do you plan to shut them down ?
There are other rooms, with 53 users currently talking in 21 rooms.
 
@RedHotScalability No plans to shut them down, no. Some rooms are more active than others, and that's fine.
 
whats the backend of this chat. I am coding on a chat application right now
test again
 
@RedHotScalability it's custom-built using our usual tech.
 
wohoo
you guys use ASP.NET MVC, just like me
 

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