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12:03 AM
Ahah! Now my gravatar can swordfight with @Shaz 's again!
 
user1385191
12:13 AM
ok, I'm done for today
 
awesome matt!
do you have paypal dude?
 
user1385191
hopefully, you'll code like some of my examples using the DomFactory function
 
seriously i would have been dead without you
 
user1385191
btw, please don't use $('#id'). that's insulting document.getElementById.
 
@MattMcDonald haha wasnt me dude
not my code :)
ill have a good look over it tomorrow
 
user1385191
12:16 AM
the whole setWires function can be replaced if you set ids on the first row
 
user1385191
just look at the dom while adding and removing wires to see the convention I use.
 
ahh yeah so it can :)
 
user1385191
your codeIginter stuff was a giant mess of folders, so I didn't go near it
 
yeah not good :/
again all i was involved with was addwires function
and below
anyhoo bed time!
4am last night wasnt good
night all :)
thanks matt, ill get you another 100 odd rep tomorrow :)
 
nighty night
 
user1385191
12:20 AM
I look forward to waking up tomorrow being minus about 200 rep. :)
 
hahaha
im being subtle 40 at a time :)
 
 
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1:58 AM
Just wondering, to anybody watching, can I improve this, other than the events not being spanned across months/years?
 
2:37 AM
What?
 
it looks good
 
Cool, thanks.
 
you have a cool avatar, did you make that?
 
Nah, but I don't remember where I got it.
I have changed my avatar 5 times in the past few days.
I need to get another one, though. I think I might take a pic from my webcam.
Anybody up to something interesting?
 
2:55 AM
@TannerOttinger Do you have a mobile device? I could do with some testing for Garden's mobile styles
 
user1385191
I have an iPod I use for mobile browsing if you'd like some help.
 
@MattMcDonald Which generation?
The link is dl.dropbox.com/u/1722364/JavaScript-Garden/site/index.html by the way. I can provide a shortened version too
 
@YiJiang Huh?
 
user1385191
v4
 
2:59 AM
Do I have bad code?
 
@TannerOttinger github.com/BonsaiDen/JavaScript-Garden - A collection of documentation about the most quirky parts of the JavaScript language - you asked if anyone is up to anything interesting, and I'm trying to test this new mobile style, so...
 
Oh, I thought that that was about my calendar, sorry.
 
user1385191
gotta love how leaving "index.html" off of the url yields a 404
 
I am viewing index.html.
 
@MattMcDonald It's a Dropbox file, so... yes
 
user1385191
3:01 AM
I've got 14 console errors
 
user1385191
they're all the same one
 
That's a cool design, plus the nav bar is awesome.
 
@MattMcDonald Hmmm?
 
user1385191
"result of expression this.names[i -1] [undefined] is not an object"
 
On the desktop or on your mobile browser
 
user1385191
3:02 AM
line 37
 
user1385191
on my iPod
 
Which browser? Mobile safari, right
 
user1385191
safari
 
Right, I'll check the mobile code branch
It doesn't yield that error on desktop browsers
(Also, didn't know that Mobile Safari can display JavaScript errors)
 
user1385191
I think it would be cool if you could make the menu position:fixed and put it on the top of the browser on a mobile device. Although, the menu itself would have to shrink.
 
3:06 AM
Anybody want/have an iPad 2?
 
@MattMcDonald Well, position: fixed isn't supported by Mobile Safari
 
user1385191
oh, well that sucks
 
That's why I have to use JavaScript to emulate it
 
user1385191
I can see how Apple + co would think it would lead to abuse.
 
@MattMcDonald They have legit reasons to not allow it, but still... it sucks that I have to use js for this
 
user1385191
3:07 AM
other than that, the text is a nice size and very readable.
 
Is there a separate sidebar for the notes? Are you in portrait or landscape mode?
 
user1385191
I've been in landscape for most of it
 
user1385191
the notes are properly floated in both views though
 
I've got a Nexus One a while ago telling me that landscape is okay but the font size is too small for portrait
 
user1385191
the text of course being small
 
3:10 AM
Well, he said that it would be more comfortable if I blew it up 1.5x - 2x for the portrait size
 
user1385191
yeah I'd agree
 
Okay, I'll work on that
 
user1385191
I'll eventually have to get a smartphone for developmental purposes.
 
user1385191
But for now, I'm content with not having an expensive data plan and mooching off of free, unsecured wi-fi.
 
Ok, I changed my avatar to a real picture of me.
 
3:13 AM
I don't have any mobile device, so I have to pester people in chatrooms to test this for me
 
user1385191
I picked this one up used from a friend at around 25% off. It's definitely been a good investment.
 
It's a first for me; I've never tried to develop a site for mobile devices before
I think I might have bitten off more than I can chew :P
 
user1385191
I'm actually content with "mobile" sites that are a glorified set of buttons.
 
Like
My
New picture?
 
@TannerOttinger Not particularly, no
Sorry
 
user1385191
3:18 AM
I'm picturing you as Loud Howard from Dilbert as you're saying this.
 
user1385191
 
Well, I had to make a video with Windows Live Movie Maker, so it was a pain in the ass.
I am compared with Howard?
 
WSM
3:47 AM
hi anyone here?
 
4:11 AM
Yes...
 
4:35 AM
hi
anyone know of a good api for building a live chat app like this one?
 
 
8 hours later…
12:41 PM
The message couldn't be clearer: Because Microsoft knows Windows, and develops only for Windows, IE9 is the best browser for the operating system.
@John node.js
 
@Raynos Not an API ;)
 
@YiJiang sure it is. It's a Web server API
 
mediaqueri.es - brilliant, need to refer here for Garden's mobile styles
 
1:33 PM
morning all
 
1:45 PM
morning
 
2:30 PM
evening :|
 
Hi, can someone help me with this? stackoverflow.com/questions/5312815/…
 
 
1 hour later…
3:50 PM
yi-jiang - you are awesome!
 
@Gourneau and @IvoWetzel of course :)
 
@Gourneau I only did the design - go lick @Ivo for writing all the content ;)
 
@YiJiang The table of contents if gorgeous, the most beautiful I have ever seen.
@YiJiang How did you make it? Would you consider writing a tutorial on the table of contents?
 
@Gourneau Eh, its not that hard, really
Well, the old one wasn't that hard. The new one is a little more complex and messy
 
Would you consider writing a jQuery plugin to provide a Table of Contents like that to others like myself ?
 
3:58 PM
Uh... I'm not sure if I can package it up neatly into a plugin
 
@YiJiang I will donate a few bucks via Paypal if you do! Something generic without the fancy icons such would be wonderful if that makes it easier.
 
I like the new one @YiJiang didnt see that one yet, did you guys just make it live?
 
@Gourneau Would you want something like the simpler, old one, where its just one level, or the current one, with sections and all?
@Loktar Which one?
 
@YiJiang Whatever you think would make it easy for you to package. What you have created could be generic and super useful. I think a lot of people would use it.
 
4:05 PM
does anybody use the vim?
 
@omnosis A few people here does
 
Hi all
 
<(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+>
<(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+>
 
@MylesGray Parsing HTML with regex here aren't we?
 
4:20 PM
@YiJiang yeah its awesome
seen it?
words floating everywhere
 
@MylesGray Of course
 
@omnosis I have used Vim for years, I love it. Really I love the key bindings. They are worth learning, they really are.
 
Okay, here's the idea for the plugin. It will map one set of element's scroll position to another set of element and trigger a callback on the other set of element when an element in the first set moves into view
 
@omnosis Lots of applications can support VIM keys. Eclipse, Visual Studio, Komodo, Netbeans
 
Should be flexible enough to use in a lot of situations
 
4:24 PM
@YiJiang that sounds like a great genetic solution. Just provide an example to use it as a simple table of contents :)
@YiJiang make sure to put your paypal account on the webpage when you make it :)
 
3K W00t :D
 
@Gourneau if you can help in this problem, i would thank you.
@MylesGray gratulations
 
4:39 PM
Nice @MylesGray grats
 
Thank you :D
man rep is easy to get on meta compared to here
I have 2 questions which are merely remedial and got 400 points combined
Wish i could do that on SO :P
 
5:10 PM
im keeping up with atwood in the meta most active
:D
give me something to close
im going on a power trip
 
@MylesGray Close this! <div>
 
</div> BAM
 
function(){
 
} SHAZAM
 
eval('eval("eval(
 
5:17 PM
THE PONY HE COMES HE COMES MY FACE )")') /bobince
 
:D
 
L.O.
 
A.T.H.E ?
anyone want to laugh at the marking scheme for a "website" i need to do for 10% of my module tomorrow?
Student name: 			Date handed in			Hand in: 14 – 18 March 2011
Student pathway:			Marker name:			Date marked:

Your site will demonstrate all the features covered in the first 20 chapters of the Microsoft Expression Web 2 text book.  Your site will be a minimum of 4 pages in size for a real organization.  Content can be imported from their existing website or Word documents.  Templates can be used.  This is to make the practical as ‘real life’ as possible.

Marking criteria: (worth 10% of total marks)
By "RSS Reset" I assume he means "CSS Reset"
 
Microsoft Expression Web == FrontPage ?
 
5:20 PM
@Nathan yep...
with type conversion and a new name ofc
 
FrontPage makes DreamWeaver seem beautiful.
 
I havent read the book but im assuming if i look at the contents page i can work out what he means by behaviours and 3 different interactive buttons
and show a layer - please be more vague :P
 
The instructor should seek more peer review about his course.
(or her)
 
@Nathan Im re-writing the practicals
Ill email them after i get my marks for my exams
I dont want to get in shit with the man
 
See if you can get hired as a TA and revamp the whole course?
 
5:25 PM
TA? - Something Advisor?
Teaching Associate?
 
"teaching assistant" is the north american term, sorry
a student who helps professors administer classes?
 
ohh okay, Ill have to look into that, Its not just this module the other one is pretty bad (from a JS point of view at least)
var isnt needed, you dont need semi-colons cause of semi-colon insertion
what else...
"whats closure" was once said
 
It annoys me a bit that there are so many published best practices for web development but not, apparently, for teaching web dev. There should be an open source, peer reviewed syllabus or something.
 
@Nathan exactly the teaching is atrociously bad
 
I fear other disciplines are that way too though. If you take history or literature at an average university, your odds of getting the most current "best practice" mainstream content aren't as good as might be hoped.
 
5:30 PM
best practise in literature?
heres the book we have to use:
 
Accreditation is supposed to fix that but it's not perfect
maybe not "best practice" in literature, but "mainstream, commonly accepted"
A lot of professors are either teaching their own "cutting edge" idiosyncracies or what was current 20 years ago.
that book looks wretched.
 
@Nathan It is HORRIFIC
"This is a dialogue box that allows you to add an image to the page"
I kid you not
 
wonders what percentage of the existing web was influenced or generated by the _Sams Teach Yourself In 24 Hours_ franchise.
There is obviously a large and enduring market for FrontPage etc.
 
uses ESP to plant an idea in @Nathans mind that due to the large about of table for layout users almost everyone
ponders using an old site done a long time ago for this project
 
How do you guys make the italic text?
 
5:41 PM
@TannerOttinger *[some text][another star here]
 
Ah, thanks.
 
@TannerOttinger also see the "help" link at bottom right, and somewhere there's a user script to make IRC things like /me work
 
Quick question
Shouldn't RegExp("((/[\w]*)\.php)") match the filename.php of a url?
8ttp://example.com/index.php
Want it to match /index.php :)
 
you have an extra slash before the first square bracket
which should be ok actually
you don't need those square brackets at all.
 
5:56 PM
Heyho
 
howdy!
 
@MylesGray Wait what. "Behaviours" as in. You must use IE only css behaviours? RAGE. RAGE. RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE. "Frames" RAGE RAGE RAGE.
 
@Raynos calm down... that can't possibly be what it means.
I'm guessing "behaviours" are some weird Expressions thing.
 

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