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12:43 AM
wonders if @IvoWetzel got the call back about the job
 
@MylesGray I thought that was the title of a Chris Farley movie...
 
@jon3laze It was, back in 1996 - new one is completely unrelated
 
1:52 AM
how handy, it appears Function.prototype.bind beats Function.prototype.apply
 
yep.
thats why it ist win
also es5
 
2:13 AM
0
A: Facebook "like" button on comments

Myles GrayIntro: You will need individual like buttons for every comment, and as @Fnatte says you can then reference them to the comment by giving it an ID like #com1,#com2etc... The best way to achieve this is through a for loop (I imagine you are pulling from a DB) that will iterate through and add the...

Pleased with that one :)
 
 
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7:41 AM
Hi! :)
 
8:14 AM
Hi
 
0
A: use first-Child with $(this)

Nyuszika7HYou can do that with .find(). HTML <div id='myDiv'> <p>hello</p> <p>world</p> </div> JavaScript $('#myDiv').each(function() { alert($(this).find(':first-child').text()); }); jQuery :first-child in .each() loop - jsFiddle

@Shikiryu Hi!
@david Yeah, and setTimeout(alert.apply(window, ['Hello, world!']), 5000) runs immediately, but setTimeout(alert.bind(window, 'Hello, world!'), 5000) only runs after 5 seconds.
 
 
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9:30 AM
@Nyuszika7H yeah that's cos apply actually calls the function, bind just returns a function object.
 
 
2 hours later…
11:44 AM
@Nathan I still have the final interview this evening (in about 8 hours)
 
does there exists a program you can search a word that exists inside some file on C:\ and then itll find it?
not filename but inside the file..
 
12:29 PM
0
A: MDC-like (Mozilla Documentation Center) resource for WebKit?

Myles GrayHere are the doc centres for all major browsers: References - Basically exactly the same as safari link for IE/FF + Opera Firefox: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Firefox_3.5_for_developers Opera: http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/presto23/#html (very very good) Safari: http://developer.app...

 
12:54 PM
6 hours... I'm getting nervous again... I mean... excited!!!...
 
@IvoWetzel It's another phone call?
 
1:10 PM
yep
Should be easier this time, basically some chatter about me (it's all about matching the companies profile today)
 
Hi! :)
 
@IvoWetzel at least they keep calling, shows they are interested
 
well it's the "final call"
 
Didn't they say that last time?
 
I hope I don't screw it up on the finish line
@MylesGray :D
 
1:12 PM
Have you done research on the company?
 
Sure
 
What they already do, where they came from, how they work, where they are goin etc
 
I did research for every interview so far
I could look up some numbers though
Although I didn't need any of that so far... but well, better do the research and don't need it, than the other way around
 
Would be helpful to say if you knew they were coming out with a new game, to say how it is a great idea, how you would like to play a part in shaping it and the companies future etc...
@IvoWetzel Exactly better to be over-prepared than under-prepared
 
Well I won't affect the games directly
The position I'm applying for is R&D / tools / engine
 
1:16 PM
So you'll be building the physics engines etc?
you could design the next chaos engine ;)
 
not physics ;) Can't talk too much about it
 
@IvoWetzel On a need to know basis? very sci-fi ;)
 
Could have played some of their games but I'm not very active on Facebook
95% of my friends are on Twitter so, hm
but well it's not about making games, they want good JS developers and I got more then enough games to play here :P
 
@IvoWetzel me neither, I only use it if people contact me... I know I dont want to play farmville cause I'm sure it would just suck my life away
 
same thing here
I played WoW for 2 years...
Although I managed to simply uninstall it one day
 
1:19 PM
@IvoWetzel I bough all three WoW games at once, played SOLID for 2 days and decided "you know what I'm not gonna be like that kid in the movies" and went to the gym instead :P
 
But still, I quickly get "addicted on time"
 
I always answer the questions where the damn people clearly just post it and leave >.>
 
got around 150 lines of notes here...
 
:O
On the companies profile?
 
company, games, the last interviews
just so I don't forget some important piece of information during the interview
 
1:24 PM
JSON?
:D
plz dnt banzor me
 
markdown
hardly fits on my screen at once in vim split view
 
Do you use VIm for word processing :P
 
It does the job for me :P
I like markdown, it's simple
ok, 3 columns and it "fits" on the screen
 
do you have them numbered? Is it like a bulleted list?
 
More like a ton of headings with sub headings and lists
 
1:31 PM
More categorised nice :D
 
Dunno, I didn't do too good in that one ;)
 
DarkBASIC doesn't look that bad... looks quite good actually :P
 
Have you googled for the original version?
 
There is a screenshot on the Wiki
their new version looks allright actually
@IvoWetzel Is that why you don't like dark IDE's?
 
Actually, I have a dark theme :P
I don't like IDEs with 900 buttons and menus of which 99% are unused all the time
 
1:38 PM
Maybe it was Raynos...
Best not ping him he gets pissed quite easy... must be that time of the month :P
 
yeah, guess it was him
 
@IvoWetzel what editor do you use?
 
@Nyuszika7H - VIM
 
@IvoWetzel That is a very nice colour scheme actually
 
1:44 PM
@MylesGray yeah
 
This is my IDE atm:
 
needs a larger screen
 
@IvoWetzel You can get some pretty nice high-res screens now for about £200
 
Mine looks pretty boring by comparison
(Komodo, by the way. Haven't found anything I'm too fond of so far.)
 
@YiJiang Get a mac and use TextMate ;)
or Coda...
 
1:49 PM
@MylesGray I hardly have money to buy food :P
 
Food can wait... need bigger screen :D
 
(I won't close this left parenthesis anyway…
 
@IvoWetzel what is your current job? just freelancing?
 
@Nyuszika7H Meh)
 
What a strange strange person...
 
1:51 PM
OK, now try to post a left parenthesis… before me!)
 
muahahahaha
 
@MylesGray Pretty much, uh, nothing
"sitting around waiting for a chance"
 
@IvoWetzel how do you survive though?
 
that describes it pretty well
@MylesGray German Social Care
 
Ahh and this is the chance, hence "chance of a lifetime" right?
 
1:53 PM
yeah..
 
Don't sweat it man, you seem to have this one in the bag, it's just formalities now :)
I have every confidence in you
 
I got it in the bag when I start my first day at work
 
@Nyuszika7H this frightens me
 
@Josh We sometimes move his code blocks in case any n00b comes around and think they're okay to use as production code :P
 
1:55 PM
@Josh a dot? :P
 
@IvoWetzel I suppose your right, don't get over confident
 
@YiJiang LOL
 
Tek
I'll ask here as well:

Anyone know the link where they have different columns css styles that works w/ all browsers without hacks?

There's like 2-3 I've seen but I don't recall their names D:
 
@Nyuszika7H Yes. Dots scare me. A lot!
 
@Tek -webkit-column-count, -moz-column-count and column-count
 
1:57 PM
@IvoWetzel I hope that wasn't you… thegeektalk.com/interviews/ivo-wetzel/comment-page-1/…
 
Use them in that order. No love from IE of course
 
Tek
o_O that's not what I meant... lol
 
@Nyuszika7H Uh, no
 
@Tek what did you mean? I did not understand either
 
Tek
I meant templates
with html and css included
 
1:58 PM
@IvoWetzel Hahahaha, epic absoluetly epic - that defiantly needed starred
 
@Tek Boilerplate?
 
Tek
No... I don't think so
matthewjamestaylor.com/blog/perfect-3-column.htm If you know of sites similar to this one then awesome =D
 
Ohhh you want a 3 column fluid layout?
 
whistles innocently
 
Tek
Just different layouts without hacks that works cross browser
 
2:01 PM
goes to validate that site
Result: Invalid! (1 error)
 
Tek
lol...
 
@Nyuszika7H Meh, the old deprecated border thingy
The thing is, IE won't take anything else...
 
@Nyuszika7H validation is just a tool - not a gold standard
 
why did images have borders in the first place....
 
@IvoWetzel Cause the 90's were hip like that
 
Tek
2:03 PM
lmfao
 
can almost smell the bounty on this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/4919617/…
@Tek is this what you were after?
 
JS regexp sucks
 
Tek
@MylesGray That one looks pretty awesome too. Thanks ^_^
 
@IvoWetzel you still regexp'in? Thought you finished that yesterday :P
 
#stackoverflow (Freenode IRC)
 
2:07 PM
@IvoWetzel I believe someone out there has compiled a list of changes he wants to see in ES5 for regexp, wonder if you've seen it
 
@Tek no probs man
 
@MylesGray Well there are some small things missing, like... being able to escape { in strings :P
 
@Nyuszika7H Why use that when we have this?
 
so \{something\} doesn't trigger the replace
 
@IvoWetzel I take it a backslash doesn do it?
Oh, beat me to it
 
@MylesGray You're also hanging around at that room now… :P
 
Tek
One of the ones I was trying to find ^_^
 
point is my code needs to handle the escaped stuff
 
@IvoWetzel Ahh gotcha, you have to regexp that monster?
@Nyuszika7H Ah, that is the framework this is built on?
 
2:11 PM
@MylesGray Huh?
 
SO chat works via IRC?
 
@MylesGray No.
 
@MylesGray No, that's a totally different thingy
 
Oh god I'm confused
 
jsFiddle appears to be broken in IE9 RC.
Or is it just me?
 
2:17 PM
@Å imeVidas Yup, has been since the first beta
 
yesterday, by Ivo Wetzel
http://isie9amodernbrowser.com/
 
What a bummer :(
It works in Compatibility View though...
 
@Å imeVidas Your dissapointed? You didn't actually plan to use it daily? :P
 
You're. It's you're :P
 
@Myles Sometimes I want to test my jsFiddle demos in IE9 also ...
 
2:21 PM
@Å imeVidas Compat mode works, but it means no access to all the cool stuff, which really sucks
 
@Å imeVidas you can add /show/light to the end of the URL to test?
 
@MylesGray Breaks the interactiveness of jsfiddle, but sure that might also work
 
@Myles Cool :)
 
It won't be interactive as @YiJiang says but it'll do the job allright
 
guess it's a good thing that the guy I'm going to talk with this evening is / was a developer too
 
Tek
2:30 PM
What's the point in using XHTML if HTML5 is completely different from it?
 
XHTML came before HTML5 :P
 
Tek
Well, yes but... I don't get why it's going to be "discontinued"
I don't see a new version of XHTML in the works...
 
and not all browsers support HTML5's features
 
XHTML is awesome! Always love it when Firefox gives you the YSOD
 
there was orignally an XHTML v2 spec
 
2:31 PM
@IvoWetzel Yellow Screen Of Death? :P
 
but the WHATWG working group broke off from W3C
 
@MylesGray yeah
 
Tek
Oh I see...
 
HTML5 then was formed by WHATWG
then W3C due to the nature of XHTMLv2 scrapped the scheme as it would have broken ALL HTML backward compatability
 
@Nyuszika7H When you serve XHTML files to Firefox as XML files (as the specs say), if the XHTML is not well-formed in any way, Firefox refuses to display the file and instead a giant yellow warning instead
Makes sense because XML was never intended to be written by humans, so any non-conformity could indicate serious problems
 
2:33 PM
so the W3C went off for a little cry and joined back up with the WHATWG working group who now mainly operate under the W3C pseudonym, and are jointly developing HTML5/ history lesson
 
Tek
lol I see
 
@YiJiang May I correct you? XML was never intended to be written by anything, as it's foul aura summons the demons from the below...
 
!acro YSOD Yellow Screen of Death (XML error symptom)
 
Tek
Will we still be able to use auto closed tags? such as <br /> or <img /> in HTML 5?
 
@Tek You can close them like that, but the HTML5 validator will give a warning.
 
Tek
2:34 PM
I thought so... That's kind of lame.
That's one of the main reasons I liked XHTML D:
 
@Tek I totally agree, I LOVE the strict syntax
 
Tek
=(
 
And self closing tags are the dogs cajones
 
Tek
lol! well said
 
Both <br> and <br/> a valid in HTML5
 
Tek
2:36 PM
but is <img /> ?
And woo, only one doctype for HTML5, right? >_>
 
@Tek it should be, and yep only one doctype
 
Tek
That's good for the newbies. So glad they got rid of frames...
When I first started out I never knew what doctype to use it was so confusing :P
 
I suggest you have a look at this: lynda.com/home/…
You can buy it or "find" it on the interwebz in the usual places ;)
 
Tek
LOL.
Thanks, sure looks interesting!
Have you heard it already?
 
Who pinned the @IvoWetzel interview? :-p
 
2:39 PM
@Tek Yep I watched it, It's not really a tutorial based thing more of a language overview so it is good for the history and understanding how things work, and where it is going
@AndyE may have been me.. :P
 
@AndyE It's pinned?!?!? unpins
 
lol
 
what was wrong with it?
 
Better question would be: Who left that stupid comment
 
@IvoWetzel don't be mean :P
 
2:40 PM
39 mins ago, by Yi Jiang
whistles innocently
 
besides darkbasic, im a blitz3d guy myself "P
 
@IvoWetzel: I assumed it was you, although I was wondering why - the interview doesn't seem bad.
 
(You can see it in the history, by the way)
 
@IvoWetzel I thought it was you too... :P
 
@AndyE for your question check out sticky footers
 
2:41 PM
@AndyE Well it links to a comment on the post, by "someone" who pretends to be me
 
45 mins ago, by Nyuszika7H
@IvoWetzel I hope that wasn't you… http://thegeektalk.com/interviews/ivo-wetzel/comment-page-1/#comment-6141
 
@IvoWetzel i'd ask @YiJiang ;)
 
I meant the comment left on that article…
 
@IvoWetzel ah, I see.
 
anyways, I'm getting really nervous again ><
 
2:43 PM
@IvoWetzel get one of these: google.co.uk/…
 
@Loktar uh, cheers :-)
 
gnah, no thanks
 
I posted an answer
with a better link
and the css that explains how to achieve the effect
 
Ah a non-smoker good stuff :D - Only recommended cause my ex used to rave about how good it was.. always had my doubts
 
@IvoWetzel Aww, another comment, sent in @YiJiang's name!!
 
2:45 PM
@Nyuszika7H Okay, hang on, what?
 
@Loktar: which question was that again?
 
It's somebody from this room, definitely
 
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A: Help with footer background image

LoktarSounds like you are looking for a sticky footer. http://ryanfait.com/sticky-footer/ * { margin: 0; } html, body { height: 100%; } .wrapper { min-height: 100%; height: auto !important; height: 100%; margin: 0 auto -142px; /* the bottom margin is the negative value of the ...

if im reading it right
 
Oh dear...
 
you want your footer always at the bottom right?
 
2:46 PM
Ah well, that's the internets for you.
 
Maybe it's @IvoWetzel trying to cause a ruckus
 
@Loktar: not my question - I just edited it to fix the link :-) Thanks, though ;-) +1
 
ohh...
wow.. im a noob.
 
@Loktar race you to 1500? :P
 
sure
wait let me check where your at now
hah your so close, but thats fine
 
2:47 PM
Myles Gray, Belfast, Northern Ireland
1.4k 15
 
Hmmm, well he knows my first name, so he's probably seen it on Github, but not well enough to use either of our email to get the correct gravatar
 
Awesome its on :D
 
@YiJiang Let's just randomly ban people from the room then!
goes to fix the kitten so it can do that automatically
 
@IvoWetzel how will that solve the commenting problem?
 
Im confused, whats even going on
 
2:49 PM
@MylesGray Dunno, but it will be a lot of fun :D
 
I can try to reverse the md5 hash there, but it's probably just a random nonsense email used to get the form to accept it
 
@IvoWetzel your an evil evil man :P
 
@MylesGray :(
You know I would never do that :P
 
... Do I? :P
 
Someone else here would probably stop it by banning me
 
2:50 PM
@YiJiang the hash is the same for "both" comment authors.
ps, nobody can ban anyone here except mods.
although we could change the channel to gallery mode and give all the regulars "voice"
 
@AndyE Gnah if we manage to reverse that MD5 it can't be that hard to break into SO
 
@AndyE Which would do nothing for the comments on that site. @IvoWetzel can email the site's owners, that's the most we can do
 
Of course.
 
Someone got the right e-mail address of @IvoWetzel…
 
@IvoWetzel MD5 hash cracking isn't that hard if you have a nice GPU or a few of them
 
2:52 PM
@Nyuszika7H Alright, stop it, now.
 
@IvoWetzel what?
 
Tek
o_o
 
@Nyuszika7H Not hard consider it's publically available on the garden
 
@IvoWetzel get kitten on the case
 
@Nyuszika7H A little bit suspicious that you seem to hit refresh all the time :/
Did send a mail with a request to clean up the comments
 
2:56 PM
wow.. someone went nuts on the sticky footer
everyone has -1 except me
 
@IvoWetzel just checking the comments…
 
@Loktar according to odata CSS and HTML are the two most dangerous tags to post in for downvotes
 
@Loktar probably the author (sometimes they do that).
 
How would someone search for all blocker bugs on Bugzilla with Firefox 4 as the goal?
 
2:57 PM
@MylesGray That's only because a lot of the answers are really bad
 
well i had a downvote as well
looks like someone countered. @MylesGray those are interesting stats
 
@Loktar did you neg someone?
 
I have twice ever
but not anytime recently
I just usually leave a comment instead of negative
 
Yeah I've only negged 3 times... all for tables
:P
then I lecture them on how much fail they are eminating
 
tables used for anything other than tabular data are the devil
pretty much the equivalent to eval in JS
funny that so many people still dont have a clue
 
3:02 PM
@MylesGray 315 here, but it's mostly on very poor quality questions.
 
eval?
@AndyE God damn, I'd lose a quarter of my rep if i negged that many times :P
 
lol
 
1.1k up vs 177 down, the ratio a lot higher than I'd like it to be
 
Look for eval, its at the bottom
 
3:05 PM
 
ha nice job man
you must of had a high voted answer recently
 
@Loktar had a bounty :)
You're almost there too dude, go for it
 
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Q: Is continuation-style-programming prone to stack overflow

xtoflIn response to this question about jQuery effects, I thought about using the callback argument to .fadeIn( 500, my_function ). While in principle, this is a viable idea, I have no clue (and neither has the jQuery documentation :( ) if the callback is allowed to recurse: function keep_animating(...

For something this simple I don't think it's going to SO, hrm....
 
His original question I said he should use setTimeout
but then i deleted it
 
@IvoWetzel job get?
 
3:08 PM
idk why he wants to do it recursively.. itll lock up the browser
 
@Raynos I still got the final interview in 4 hours (yes another one)
If that works out fine, hm I'll probably get a job offer
No real idea my thoughts are all on the interview this evening
 
so cute
 
@IvoWetzel You're a cat man?
 
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Q: What kind of computer is being used in "Workin on ur problemz"?

Andrew GrimmWhat are the things between the normal keyboard and the monitor in this picture? The image appears when you strike upon an error on Stack Overflow.

 
3:12 PM
@MylesGray I had a cat for 14 years of my life, so yes
when will people learn that changing the code of the OP is not an acceptable edit -.-
 
Only time i mess with the code is when it shows as plain text rather than as code.
Any actual "fixes" i just put in my answer
 
sometimes... no
Translating "Cookies" to the actual German word for the edible ones is just fail
 
@IvoWetzel so you should just leave it as plain text O_o
 
3:30 PM
oh noes I got failing tests in IE6
And of course IE6 is so awesome it hardly displays any of the important parts of the error message
 
@IvoWetzel For...?
 
Im away home guys, talk later :)
 
probably happened on line 10443.
 
@YiJiang The string formatting thingy
 
see ya @MylesGray
 
3:32 PM
@MylesGray Cya
 
@Loktar later man
@IvoWetzel good luck with the interview!
Hope all goes well
 
@MylesGray thx :)
Ahhh it's failing on the custom errors
I have no means to debug that
but IE with GTK window decoration sure looks funny
oh, hm, in fact it doesn't even throw the custom errors.
ok it throws
but it does not stop the currently executing function...
and it doesn't trigger the catch?!
 
Tek
If Javascript was a woman, what would you like to say to her?
 
What's going down?
 
Tek
lol I don't know why that made me laugh
 
3:46 PM
@IvoWetzel You're using IE6 on wine?
 
@YiJiang yes
Can be bothered to start up that win7 thing atm
 
Tek
I didn't even know that was possible
 
I tried the winetricks version, but it didn't work
 
guess I'll fire up the original versions
ah comments got cleaned up and closed :)
sigh windows is so slow
and dropbox doesn't want to connect either
 
border vs. outline?
 

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