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12:36 AM
@rage thanks for pointing out that you're hitting questions I've answered... I need to keep going with that. There's so much for me to learn, too.
 
1:09 AM
@Maximilian haha, i wish
 
1:38 AM
@mattsven so? Jailbreak tweak. nobody jailbreak
no, it is cool lol
 
Back.
 
I'm on a different time zone now.
You will see me more often, Owatch.
 
Oh, I already do.
 
How's AstroKit sales?
 
Nonexistant.
I have moved five units. Three of which were redeemed for free.
 
1:47 AM
Well... You don't seem to be doing a lot of marketing?
 
I did at first, for like two days.
I had done a couple days worth of preparation, gathering emails. Getting my videos, images, and other stuff put together.
Made a press kit, all of that. Sent about 6-7 emails out to various places. Posted a reddit thread with free promo codes.
One person used a code.
That's it.
 
My advice to independent devs is: Spend as much time marketing as programming.
 
TBH, I don't even feel my App is that great now. I'm feeling kind of demotivated about it.
 
Otherwise, if you had spent 3 months on programming and only 3 hours on marketing, you might as well not have spent that much time on programming in the first place.
Well, you'll need lots of updates.
 
I've put a version with iOS 9 fixes in review today though.
I spent like 20 hours marketing.
 
1:51 AM
Well you spent more than 20 hours on the app, right?
 
Apple decided to not only override the Boolean "paused" in SKScene, but also the boolean "isPaused". So all my SpriteKit problems were because it was triggering something that froze the scene all because they changed/over-rode my variable.
@EnricoSusatyo I spent like 800h
I think, maybe more.
 
@Owatch Well, then you still have 780 more hours of work ahead of you.
 
I'm not going to spent 780 hours pestering people.
I don't have money.
They don't care. Also, other Apps you have outshine this. It would be like pushing a new "Notes" App.
 
If you think you're pestering people, then you're not doing marketing right.
Go deep, not wide.
Make friends with 5 new astronomy people everyday.
Within a week, you'll have 25 new friends.
Within a month, you'll have 100.
Out of 100 friends, if 10% becomes your customer, that's 10 new customers.
Also, you shouldn't try to compete with the other apps on things you won't have capabilities to do.
 
I didn't design my App with any consideration of what other Apps were doing. I just made it.
I guess I could make some friends.
But I can't exactly push this thing on subreddits and stuff. That's not allowed.
 
2:02 AM
Well, then don't.
Also, people will hate you if the first thing you do is tell them to buy your app.
 
I'd need to go to Forums specifically for Astronomy stuff. Then infiltrate and gain their trust.
 
Really make friends, talk to them about planets and stars and stuff.
Only promote your app after they trust you.
I have 600 friends on Facebook, I never ask a single one of them to like or buy any of my apps unless it's useful for them.
 
Hey bud! I'd love to show you this diagram I made of Pluto the other day. Email address?
 
I think only 2 or 3 people on Facebook actually use my app regularly.
 
Sends App page link
I haven't put this on FB.
Felt it would be ostentatious.
 
2:05 AM
Yeah of course it will.
You don't need everyone to know and like you.
You just need 2% of people to know you and like you and buy your stuff.
 
@EnricoSusatyo speaking of pestering, you haven't accepted the invite yet...
 
That's more than enough. There's probably > 10 million astronomers. 2% of them is 20,000 people.
@mattsven Sorry, I was in meeting all day.
 
it's cool, i'm glad you even considered it lol
 
Note though, I don't really use ePubs...
I just read Kindle.
So I may need an ePub file from somewhere.
 
that's fine, I just want your opinion on whatever you see.
it comes with default books
don't worry about it
enrico opens app
vomits violently
0 stars: "this app gave me cancer"
"I am writing this review from chemotherapy"
cnn reports: "Worst app ever kills everyone ever, developer quoted as saying: 'I didn't mean for any of this to happen'"
 
2:56 AM
Hey :)
 
NSChat is closed.
Hours between 8:00AM and 10:00PM EST
 
3:14 AM
Do you think SO christianity community would be a good place to start befriending people to market my App?
 
@Owatch No
 
godamnit.
Jesus then took the bread and broke it. In handing it out to his disciples, he spoke "Get Astro-Kit on iTunes for only $.99" Can anyone confirm this quote?
or
Jesus just spotted using Astro-Kit in heaven.
@EnricoSusatyo I give up
Astronomy SE. (Only chatroom lol)
 
LOL what
 
It's so inactive.
 
3:30 AM
Ok, meeting someone in 30 minutes, I'm nervous.
 
important person?
 
Yep, buying my product.
 
Sydney Tax evasion police?
 
Um... No
 
weird pause, enrico
 
3:32 AM
Cough, we got a 505 situation here in the Chatroom, is decoy in place Charlie Team?
 
Damn it guys lol
 
I wonder why he had to do that jump kick in the first place. He's got a gun...
 
What is the gun supposed to do? Shoot small holes through the door?
 
Is that not a correct logic?
 
3:37 AM
No. Lets them know you're there, and doesn't get the door open.
 
You sound experienced in this.
 
South African police: youtu.be/FYoHWFoE9Q4?t=2m58s
Okay. Just a special division.
 
 
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5:34 AM
Hello
 
6:27 AM
@borrrden Did you update to Windows 10?
 
7:13 AM
Morning
 
7:27 AM
arvo
 
 
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9:11 AM
Build application in 4 weeks
takes clients 6 weeks to deploy after sign off, developer gets blamed
classic
 
Hi,
Any one can help on this question stackoverflow.com/questions/31783007/…. I'm new to OS X develpoment
 
 
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1:22 PM
@KiritVaghela you haven't answered the most important question: what have you tried?
 
Nothing
 
enrico...still hasn't installed it :(
 
I have.
Forever
 
:)
 
It seems the name Anna is popular with Tolstoy..
 
1:45 PM
@mattsven Changing the BG color is rather annoying.
It keeps snapping back to the left end
 
oh no
that's not supposed to happen..
when you select one, it snaps it into place?
 
No, when I try to scroll the colors, it keeps snapping to the left end of the UIScrollView or whatever it is.
And I can't move past the red/brown colors
 
wow
what device?
I never encountered that
 
5C
You can scroll it, but unless you are extraordinarily careful it will fly back to the left side.
 
iOS 8?
 
1:48 PM
yes
 
Hi everyone
 
Prepare to be banned.
 
@Owatch why?
 
Username lol
 
ugh come on, I have bigger problem that just happened, Im going to cry
I accidentally delete the Main Storyboard, anyway to get it back?
 
1:53 PM
Fish it out of the trash?
Restore it, and then add it back into Xcode ?
 
let me see if that will work
 
wat
 
It worked
Thats why I say YAAS
lol
 
Oh good!
 
I can't change the display name for 30days
 
2:03 PM
Uh oh
 
I was about to change it to NSYAAS
ugh now the View content disappear in Storyboard, but it show on iPhone
 
 
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4:46 PM
Yo
 
4:56 PM
no oko
 
5:13 PM
hat
 
5:33 PM
help
apparently I should just manually delete the dups
 
@mattsven What Xcode?
 
Xcode 5
@Owatch were you aware there were default books? I think it didn't add them for you because of your initial crash...also, what iOS version exactly? 8.1/8.2/8.3/8.4...?
I can't get the same issue... :/
 
6:04 PM
Matt
@Mattsven yes, delete duplicates but check versions. If you have a iOS 8.4 and iOS 9 simulator it will say, but it shows the IDs if you have 2+ of the same device+OS version
 
6:17 PM
i see
thanks
 
Matt
Hi
 
hello
got my first real testing crash today
 
Nice, did you fix it?
Ill try to use it later today, very busy
 
it happened....9 minutes ago according to crashlytics
 
Work on work app, work on my app, game for an hour or 2 for break, read the book I paid $70 for (waste of money lol)
 
6:22 PM
lol what book is it?
 
Well, its actually 2
Cracking the Coding Interview. I bought the 5th one, which is 4 years old but the book store made it seem like it just came out, spent more money on the older version than the new one
It was $40, then got the new one at the launch event for $30.. lol
I wish I could sell the old one, or return it
 
why can't you?
 
Dunno
Cuz I hate losing money :P If I sell it then its at least less than half, for basically a brand new book that was overpriced in the first place
My fault but ya. maybe ill sell cuz some money is better than none
 
word
 
All my subviews are light grey and not showing in Storyboard, How can I make them viewable?
 
 
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10:38 PM
Liking the new youtube UI.
 
11:10 PM
it still hasn't kicked in for me entirely
 
11:29 PM
where the fuck is the "watch later" button
 
I am tired.
 
me too
thanks for the feedback, btw
I'm going for some more detailed info on those bugs you're experiencing sometime
 
ohk.
I think I could just plop my head down on the nearest soft object and go to sleep within 30s
 
11:52 PM
@mattsven iOS 8.4. Also, I was not aware there were default books.
 
yeah, under the more tab of the main screen
 
Restoring them made them appear.
How are you storing these books by default?
Are you not using Core Data to save stuff?
 
the ePubs are stored on disk
restoring them imports those ePubs
 
Are you using Core Data though?
 
yes, but really only for metadata
 
11:55 PM
AFAIK you couldn't "pre-save" anything to the database easily.
 
title, author, highlights, etc.
 

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