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12:14 AM
im here
@Gudiya
I'm wating to checkout the architecture :D
 
12:31 AM
Im so tired
I fell asleep on my glass table from writing a page for class-_- I had to delete half because its so boring, I would probably put the teacher to sleep with that
 
hello
 
@Maximilian struggle is real
3
 
anyone think they could lend a hand with a slide out menu?
 
k
 
i followed the rayraywenderlich slide out menu tutorial, but i can't figure out how to slide the center menu back when a menu item is selected from the left
 
12:39 AM
I've never heard of RayRay Wenderlich. Reminds me of a cousin though
Kidding
 
hehe :P
 
you're going to have to be more specific about where you think your issue is occurring.
 
So are your NSLogs printing?
 
yes
 
12:42 AM
then what's the problem? your dismiss method should be called as well.
 
the center menu slides to the right, and i can see the menu on the left, but i want the center menu appear again when the manage accounts label is pressed
 
Your problem is too relative/localized. You're going to have to narrow it down. I can't really help you right now.
I'd also suggest posting a question on StackOverflow.
 
yeah i might do that :/
 
1:20 AM
Any Idea how to send Socket Messages with iOS?
Obj-C
Im switching from nodejs to Tornado
 
 
2 hours later…
3:39 AM
Pizza was not a good idea
I don't feel so good
 
4:10 AM
I just saw the worst preview for a TV show ever
Says there is a surprise in the next new episode, then it shows the surprise and says it is...
Good thing its not a show I watch:P If Arrow did that or something I would be pissed
 
4:30 AM
PEOPLE GET ON
 
5:29 AM
no
 
hello
 
good morning friends
i have very little problem may i share with you?
?
 
Now people are on!!
I felt like the apocalypse happened and I was the only one alive
 
okie can we talk about my issue , if you dont mind ?
 
5:38 AM
If its about the apocalypse
Ok tell me your issue
 
hahaha ..
actually i developed my ruby on rails application. and i hosted this application on RHEL 5.8 and mysql 5.5 and webricks server. so i run the application on rhel then i am able to use this application using localhost:3000/ but from client machine i unable to use the application using myip:3000. i check the firewall configuration , firewall is closed.
can i know what could be other dependencies ?
 
I dont know
 
ok thank you for checking my issue. and giving me your valuable time
 
You're welcome
I only know iOS and some java sorry
 
5:56 AM
@Maximilian did you see my question about the slide out menu earlier
 
6:12 AM
chirp chirp
 
6:24 AM
for those who can't sleep, stackoverflow.com/questions/28923721/…
 
I hate hamburger menus, but if I were you I would use one of the open source implementations if you have to use one.
 
@EnricoSusatyo used the DIY solutoin from from the ray wender... tutorial
 
 
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user457812
7:53 AM
I got really irrationally mad today. That was weird.
 
user457812
Just because a coworker asked a really kind of stupid question.
 
Nil
Hi
 
Was the question: "Why is Javascript so beautiful and elegant?" ?
 
Enrico have kous in the jobs movie?
 
user457812
No, it was "why wouldn't we use MySQL for a message queue?" (not an exact quote)
 
user457812
7:55 AM
The implication being that he would like us to use MySQL for a message queue.
 
user457812
'Cause we're currently looking into alternatives to Redis for keeping queues.
 
user457812
And I just got really, really mad at that, because it seems so obvious to me that this is not what MySQL is for.
 
@Maximilian Kous?
 
user457812
And then I remembered he's basically the PHP guy who really never steps outside his comfort zone.
 
What a strange word, I've never heard that.
 
user457812
7:57 AM
Which made me even madder.
 
Did you give him a good punch?
 
user457812
It was an email.
 
user457812
So it was a dumb cycle of me getting mad at something and then just getting even madder at him because of how stupid it sounded to me.
 
user457812
And I still replied as diplomatically as I could, but the easiest way I could describe it was that using MySQL as a message queue is like trying to turn a bookshelf into a conveyor belt.
 
user457812
MySQL is not built for that. At all. It never was.
 
user457812
7:59 AM
The sheer number of insertions and deletions and batch selections followed by deletions that would be involved in using MySQL as a queue in our area would probably destroy it.
 
user457812
And I don't think he appreciates that.
 
user457812
I don't think he understands the actual volume we're dealing with.
 
Take a deep breath.
Well, I can only say one thing.
 
user457812
I'm currently fine, but I was just about livid when I saw his response. And to be fair, I was expecting him to reply with something like that, 'cause when we looked at BitBucket for hosting our source code, for example, he just instantly replied with how it was horrible.
 
user457812
And he's just.. he's really backwards about technology.
 
user457812
8:02 AM
It's not that he's not a nice person, he's a pretty swell guy, he's just lacking in perspective on the things he talks about most of the time.
 
user457812
Either way, I got a beer, so now I get to relax and watch youtube videos.
 
Enjoy your beer.
What are you having?
 
user457812
Some Sierra Nevada pale ale thing.
 
user457812
Not a fan of pale ales, but it was the only thing in the fridge other than an IPA, so I picked the one that would taste less like a bottle of hops.
 
user457812
Also have crackers now.
 
user457812
8:11 AM
But yeah, new experience for me: getting really, really mad at a stupid question.
 
user457812
Might need a lobotomy to shut that part of my brain off.
 
I think you just need to drink more.
 
user457812
8:27 AM
Drinking doesn't really solve the problem where I become an asshole because someone didn't know better.
 
2:30 PM
Everybody wake up. You're 1 hour ahead now.
 
Hi, I am a beginner in iOS. I was developing a minimal todo list app. I have a tableview which is connected to a uiview through a segue and i want to add a todoitem using an add button present on the right side of the bar of tableview. I am confused as to whom should i delegate the task of creating a todoitem
 
Your View Controller that has the Table View should be delegate of the other View Controller.
 
So you mean the table view should create the todolistitem?
 
No, the other View Controller does. And it lets the Table View know what was entered by the delegate method.
Table View Controller receives that delegate call back, updates the Database and Table View.
 
So basically I will be delegating the other view controller the task of getting the user input, thats it?
 
2:38 PM
User clicks on + button in Table View Controller, navigates to other View Controller where he enters the TODO items. When user hits done, delegate method is called (passing the TODO item information that user entered) which is received by the Table View Controller. The Table View Controller will update the Database and it's Table View with this information.
Yes, thats how delegation works. A delegate, by definition, is an object that does some work on behalf of some other object.
 
Now its a bit clear. Thanks
 
 
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4:19 PM
Afternoon' all.
 
5:08 PM
Yo
 
I'm wresting with UIScrollView
I'm trying to use contentOffset to allow touched objects to me moved on screen. But the behaviour is really unnatural. Things move too far, too fast, don't change directions for several seconds after you move your finger, among other problems.
I believe I will have to configure the Controller to 'pass down' touch control to subviews so that I can properly move things.
Unfortunately, this means hauling Scrolling gesture recognition back into SKScene, what a pain!
 
Dont mess with scroll views! They're angry
 
All I had was an if statement and a method call Max.
If I could get it to work like that it would have been fantastic.
Now I'm going to need several new method calls, and a lot more work to ensure that I can get what I want.
What a bloody pain.
 
ya
I try not to use them directly
 
afternoon
 
5:15 PM
Annoying enough, if you use my application as it is, it's nothing special.
You can scroll the background, and tap to add objects.
But the amount of work into achieving that in SpriteKit (Using UIKit stuff with it) was incredibly challenging.
 
5:29 PM
What's another word for "resigning the first responder/keyboard" that is more layman?
Only thing I can think of is dismiss
 
layman: A nonordained member of a church.
 
2. a person without professional or specialized knowledge in a particular subject.
 
unordained: Not having been ordained as a priest or minister.
 
>:(
 
ordain: Make (someone) a priest or minister; confer holy orders on.
Finally.
Would "tossin that hoe" be a more layman term?
Hold on, I can try and find more alternatives in my Ebonics dictionary.
 
5:36 PM
Who's getting the Apple Watch
 
Not me
 
Not me
 
:O
Why not
 
Because I don't need it.
Also it's likely to be unreasonably expensive.
 
5:41 PM
Haven't you asked the same question at least 40 times.
 
Just starting at $350
 
And hasn't everyone answered this question several times so far.
 
Maybe... The event is tomorrow, people can change their minds:P
Maybe you'll say yes after tomorrow!:D
I will, I hear people look at their phone less, so that will be cool.
No, answer it more!
Are you getting the Apple Watch?
 
I'm not getting an iWatch. I don't have that kind of money.
 
Nope. It's pointless of me to do so. I'd be getting it only as a status symbol...
 
5:43 PM
Exactly
 
$350 is better than I thought (less than my iPhone) but still not doing it
 
I'm struggling to run stuff on this shitty laptop, on a 4 year old phone.
I won't be spending 350 on a pointless watch
 
I have a 6 Plus
 
Feel free to share the wealth
@Owatch yep.
 
Im not that wealthy:P
I just spend wisely so that I have enough to buy what I want
 
5:44 PM
lol.
 
In the last 4 months I probably spent less than $150 of actual money
So I can spend $350 on the Watch:D
 
> spend wisely
 
Yes :D
 
> So I can spend $350 on the Watch
 
Exactly
 
5:45 PM
wisely
watch
 
Yup
 
I give up.
 
Ill make money from it.. Ill go make a Watch app and get $350 back
 
max, do you even get enough notifications and network enough to use the iWatch that often?
I don't think the watch will be as popular as you think it is
 
Don't you know people are dying for antivirus apps for Apple Watch? duh! Ill go buy my Ferrari now
 
5:46 PM
wearables in general aren't that popular now.
 
I don't network enough, but I do have lots I check
Like TV shows and movies....
Lol
I only don't network enough because nobody likes me:P
I hope its not popular, I don't want to wait in line
 
...
 
Antivirus is a good scam.
 
lol yes
I won't make it, but making that would make you like $30,000 easily
 
Well, on mobile phone OS's (Especially Apple's) it is.
 
5:49 PM
Then you can go buy the Apple Watch Edition
 
What exactly would you do.
 
Nothing
Exactly what the others do:P Its just animations and making people think its doing something
 
People finding exploits are far more skilled than you will be at defending phones from them.
 
I don't mind the scam apps much, but only the category... Apple lets them into Utilities
Lol, If i made one I would put it into entertainment:P Cuz its a scam app and it would be pretty funny if it made a lot of money in there😄
 
I'd feel pretty shallow selling people something I know is fake.
 
5:51 PM
Although I don't want to make money off scam apps:/ Bad...
Oh, another big thing I like about the Apple Watch is Siri and Maps, I do not have a place to put my phone in the car, and I don't want to buy a stand thing so in the 1/1000 chance I need to use my maps to go somewhere, and I hate holding my phone while driving, its dangerous.. so using the Apple Watch it will be cool, I can quickly look at my wrist while its still on the wheel and know where to go
 
I would create a secondary Developer Account filled with scam apps
jkjk, I agree with @Owatch
 
LMFAO
Well.. its the only way to make money now:/
Apple gets paid ether way.. The app store needs a serious overhaul and scam apps need to be removed ASAP, and more strict on allowing them in
I mean if its an app that seems like a scam but in Entertainment, fine because like you trick your friends or something, but saying it works Isnt cool and Apple knows they're scams, you can't scan viruses
 
So long touchesBegan!
 
lol
 
Oh, grandma.
 
6:03 PM
I am going to read the Steve Jobs book, have you guys read it yet?
 
no
because while Steve was smart, he isn't a god
 
Why not
Lol
 
She's on the phone with my father. Pretty much tells everything I do thinking I cannot hear her from here.
Pisses me off.
 
But I might in the future, who knows. Might be something to learn from it
 
I know he's not god, but he's smart and made all of this amazing stuff
 
6:05 PM
Informant!
 
The awkward moment you meant to text a friend at Apple and you text some girl who hasn't even heard of the Apple Watch lol
 
too dark
 
You're bad Matt.
 
lol
What did he say
 
It's too bad for her. I don't tell her much of what I do.
Partly because of that reason.
 
6:07 PM
lol what do you do that she would act so scandalously about?
"You'll never guess what, Owatch was breathing again today"
 
Lol
 
Mostly things I do and say. And a lot of that at it. If I mention I'm busy skyping a friend in the afternoon or if she asks me about what I'm planning to do this summer and I speculate about some options, I'll hear her tell him pretty much every single thing I mentioned.
Trivial stuff that I interpret as a bit of a violation when it comes to trusting someone.
 
Wow
You need to do something about your Grandma's memory
"I've also been thinking about moving to Costa Rica and partying with the locals"
"And I've been vaguely considering an addiction to Crystal Meth"
"Grandma, did you know it takes the average human 7.5 minutes to bleed out from a neck injury?"
 
It wouldn't be so bad if she told him important stuff like what Universities I'm planning to attend, or asked me for clarification on things: "Hey owatch, what did you say you wanted to do this summer ___ is interested in it". But the fact that it's all done in attempted secrecy and that almost none of what she remembers is kept private is what ticks me off.
 
I'm back
We are one hour ahead. I am very sad. We got 1 hour less this weekend.
 
6:15 PM
Have you guys seen the Jobs movie?
 
Sounds kind of childish Owatch
 
Why is it childish?
 
I want to say it's innocent and she thinks she's helping you etc., but it doesn't seem that way
 
Who is she?
 
Oh, what she's doing?
 
6:16 PM
Since she seems to be focusing more on the things that your father might find negative?
yes
Instead of highlighting the positives
 
Who is she? Who is pretending to be helping Owatch?
 
Yeah, a little bit. It's like a little kid coming over and whispering about what her sister or brother did.
Childish in that sense.
 
OK Brb
 
@Gudiya his grandmother
 
ok
I got back after 2.5 hours of Tennis play. Need to refresh. Brb
 
6:17 PM
Stop exercise-shaming me Gudiya
it's so opressive
 
Eh, positives and negatives aren't really involved there. It's just relaying stuff I said and did. Not much opinion in it. It's weird, and irritating
 
Check your athletic privellage
@Owatch so she's like a recorder?
or apathetically relaying what she remembers
 
Like a bad recorder, yes.
 
what kind of relationship do you have with your grandmother...? are you close? Do you talk - like, real talk?
 
No.
 
6:19 PM
oh
that's too bad
why not?
 
She'll ask me what I think of things my family does, and I'll just say vague stuff or give acceptable replies.
Because I don't trust her.
 
Trust her how?
Or rather, how do you feel her motives/desires might conflict with yours?
 
I don't like my dad much for example. She asked me why there's tension between us. I told her it's because of certain things. Suddenly everyone knows, and I hear them talking about it behind my back.
She's nice, and I'm nice to her. But I wouldn't trust her with anything on that level anywhere.
 
Hmm. Tough situation
 
I should have seen that one coming TBH.
 
6:23 PM
:/
 
The sooner I leave the better off I'll be.
If I pass Calc 2, and get to go to the Netherlands, I'll have my ticket out.
Then I'll have to start on my excuses for not visiting.
 
So there's no family members you trust/can confide in?
 
Not really.
I could maybe trust one of my aunts
But that's it.
If all else fails, I'll just move in with Max.
 
lolwhat
 
I'm sure he'll love it.
 
6:32 PM
Ok I am back
I will make the decision now
 
What better than having an NSChat regular as a permanent resident.
 
lol
 
Seems like nil would be a better pick
 
Let's see.
@nil Can I move in?
 
No, it would be hell to live with nil.
He will impose his rules (like the NSChat rules) for living in his home.
Are you a student now?
 
6:40 PM
Yes.
 
user457812
I don't think I've imposed any rules in a long time in here.
 
user457812
I also have no idea what anyone is talking about.
 
When you move to Netherlands (for higher studies?) how will you earn?
@Owatch wants to move in with you, nil.
 
It was a snap decision.
If I suddenly feel like going somewhere, I'd go to Max's
Then, Matt interjected with a better idea, living with you!
 
user457812
I highly doubt anyone wants to move in with me and my parents.
 
6:41 PM
Which state are you now in?
lol
 
Gudiya likened your home to life under the gestapo.
 
user457812
That said, my company is hiring, so anyone who does end up where I am and is an actually competent programmer probably has a job.
 
And then you came in saying it wasn't so bad.
 
I want to work there nil. Can I get interviewed?
 
user457812
If you applied, I would tell them you were a bad fit.
 
6:43 PM
Owatch can also apply there, no?
Why?
 
user457812
Because you would be a bad fit.
 
Gudiya can benefit from a 75k salary drop!
According to their pay rates from Nil.
 
Bad fit for what reason?
@Owatch Why not you apply there?
 
Nil is actually trying to horde all the money himself, and is dissuading others from coming to his area
 
lol
 
user457812
6:45 PM
Considering I know our actual income, my salary definitely isn't all the money.
 
We knew you were always laughing on top of that golden throne.
 
user457812
@Gudiya I would dissuade anyone at my company from hiring you on the grounds that you're a) an anti-gay bigot and b) treat people poorly.
 
@Gudiya Because it's in IDAHO
I think.
 
user457812
Welcome to one of the reasons it's so hard to hire people here.
 
lol
 
user457812
6:46 PM
The other being that a lot of people just won't take a "no" to working from home.
 
I may not know, but what's wrong with IDAHO?
Is it an isolated place?
 
Its remote, it's the state with almost nobody in it. Its got a harsh climate, and its only export is potatoes.
 
user457812
Its.
 
user457812
Stop typing on your phone, it's trying to screw up your words.
 
but Gudiya's also a great programmer
 
user457812
6:48 PM
@Owatch Just edit it like five more times until it's right.
 
I hope you'd mention that inbetween your personal gripes
 
user457812
Same as last time.
 
user457812
@mattsven Have not seen a single thing she's ever done.
 
IDAHO is near to Cali. Whats the problem?
 
user457812
I'd assume her lack of asking questions and continual possession of a job is a good indicator, but I can't judge skill otherwise.
 
user457812
6:50 PM
The problem, however, is that we're a small dev team. Like six people right now.
 
startup?
 
user457812
Something like that
 
California's sitting on a fault line, has no water, and occasional poor air quality.
 
user457812
"has no water" (coastal state)
 
user457812
There's plenty of water, it's just loaded with salt.
 
6:51 PM
citation needed "is suffering a drought"
 
I'm not wrong, you know what I meant.
 
user457812
And pee. And dolphin guts.
 
Who doesn't love dolphin guts?
 
user457812
I like my dolphin guts separated from the pee.
 
user457812
Also, the air quality issue is mostly limited to southern California
 
user457812
6:52 PM
And southern California is basically a no-man's-land of awful cities.
 
"Matt, if you could have one thing in the world right no-"
"Dolphin Guts. All of them."
 
Plus, haven't you heard all those horror stories from Max?
 
Atlanta is best
Today it was so sunny. We played for 2.5 hours
 
His area is pretty much full of alcoholics and drug addicts.
 
user457812
After hearing the results of most of the interviews where we reject people, I'm frankly amazed I was ever hired.
 
user457812
6:54 PM
I suspect it's entirely because I didn't have any programmers interviewing me.
 
That would make sense.
 
Why not ask to perform interviews for them, as you're the only properly experienced programmer ?
Then BOOM! NSChat moves to Idaho.
 
user457812
I'm pretty sure I'm the opposite of a properly experienced programmer.
 
user457812
I should probably start volunteering to sit in on interviews just so there's one other programmer talking to candidates though.
 
Tell you what though Nil.
While we're far away on the East Coast.
Guess who isn't!
(And wants a job)
 
6:59 PM
@Owatch Which state are you in?
 
Connecticut.
 
ok
 

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