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12:03 AM
Hello All
 
12:15 AM
hello grad student
 
12:37 AM
Hey Mike
Back to states?
 
yes, I'm back in San Fran.
 
Cool.
 
how is your internship going?
 
It got finished last friday
 
you survived!
now it's time to go back to school
 
12:39 AM
No
I got another for this fall. Got offer yesterday only when I was taking my on campus housing keys. Haha.
 
maybe you don't really want to do school, eh?
I don't blame you.
 
No. My school allows 3 internships.
And the company is good located in Boston.
 
good luck!
 
Thank you!
 
1:04 AM
Good morning everyone
 
right back at you
 
It's not morning for you Michael
 
hi
 
Sup
Okay so apparently my eyes are really really screwed up
 
Nothing much, debugging as usual sighs its been a tough 48 hours lol. My most challenging 48 hours till date.
yourself?
 
1:11 AM
@nil Lol do you even do Python?
My eyes are so screwed up I can't even wear glasses lol
 
uh oh. Laser eye treatment!
do it! lol
 
Morning
 
Hey Mr.Susatyo. hows it going
 
@Pavan It sounds like I might have to wear an eye patch for a few weeks
 
@Maximilian You hate your life because you have a chip on your new Mac? Such a hard life for you :/
Not too shabby, Mr Pavan.
 
1:13 AM
LOL
 
@EnricoSusatyo YOU DON'T KNOW HIS PAIN
 
Evening
But also I tried on new glasses and I look awesome
 
I see.
If only I could jump into a vortex that would drop me among a pool of core-data pros!
 
Okay so nil
I'm pretty sure I just got a chess recruiter email
 
Who wants to code in the rest of these features into my app for me
Oh!
 
1:16 AM
@mattsven you're on, so long as you can figure out whats happening in this BULLS*$3T of a problem of mine related to core-data lol
 
Also does anyone know if when you have a UINavigationBar outside of a UINavigationController, it will adapt to status bar frame height changes?
@Pavan lol have fun
 
@mattsven I kind of do lol
 
@mattsven, Hah. message received.
 
I'm a Core Data mediocre.
 
All the stuff I have to do in my app is the hard stuff
lol
 
1:17 AM
that's why I don't want to do these features
 
@EnricoSusatyo I'm just not understanding why when the migration takes place, the data jumps into the wrong field!! The resultant table has the price values in the wrong field -___-
 
because it's hard(er) stuff
 
@mattsven Want to trade for a day?
lol
 
Nope
 
@EnricoSusatyo its most likely that my property mapping isnt associating correctly, but I just dont understand where its going wrong. ergh. I even have a question explaining the details very quickly lol
@mattsven which feature were you thinking of diving into next?
 
1:20 AM
@Pavan IDK? Either a.) plugin system with JavaScriptCore b.) reading text to the user from HTML using AVSpeechSynthesizer or c.) stop being lazy and writing lots of table view code for extensive settings view
I haven't touched CoreData yet tho so
 
@mattsven I like B. I've done something similar before. I dont like the limited flexibility of AVSpeech though.
 
It's not flexible?
 
@mattsven, not as flexible as Id like it to be.
 
What doesn't it allow you to do?
Haven't used it yet so I'm curious
 
GUYS
I FOUND A MISTAKE IN APPLES DOCUMENTATION
 
1:23 AM
YEAH?
 
APPLE MADE A MISTAKE
APPLE MADE A MISTAKE!
 
Ethen: I did that too before :P
 
@EthenA.Wilson SELL IT TO THEM FOR $200M
 
I DON"T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY MATTTTTTT
OH WAIT
THAT"S NOT HOW SELLING WORKS
 
LOLLLL
 
1:24 AM
I DON"T HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT
WHO WILL I TELL THEM TO WRITE OUT THE CHECK TO?
SIR AWEOMSE PANTS
THE ROYALLY ASTUTE
INSERT ADJECTIVE INSERT RANDOM WORD
 
KING WILSON THE MAGNIFICENT
 
WEAR A ROYAL CAPE
 
THAT IS MY TITLE
 
@mattsven now I remember. I had a problem with the AVSpeechutterance class
 
1:25 AM
I THINK I"M GOING TO TWEET THIS CONVERSATION
IF YOU GUYS ARE AL RIGHT WITH THAT
 
#no
 
I didnt like the voice limitation, and I believe there were some other limitations in terms of speed and pitch. I cant remember it off the top of my hed
So i opted for something else.. theres a paid speech utterance library you can buy
 
hmm :(
 
forgot the name! grrr
 
@Pavan money is no object
because I don't have any
 
1:26 AM
dont get me wrong though, definitely try the AVspeech.. classes. its fun when you can make your iOS device talk ;)
 
@mattsven lol what
 
I'll see if it meets me needs
@EthenA.Wilson hashtag sarcasm
Gah I hate those days where I can't be motivated
Just staring at the IDE, willing it to write the code for me
 
ikr
today is one of those days for me too
 
today is one of those days where I eat a lot of junk food due to stress received from not being able to solve a problem when its gone passed the 24 hour stage lol
 
Ouch
save this image to text back for the next time you get an unsolicited dick pic: http://t.co/Ilx8ryYBKM
 
1:31 AM
@Pavan lol you have ready access to junk food then?
 
ahaha ethan. ouch.
 
thanks for the coma ethen
 
Someone in office: "We'll get this on Tuesday, can you implement it by Wednesday?!"
 
yeah man. @mattsven lots of chocolate biscuits, fried chicken, crisps .. the list goes on
 
1:32 AM
Me: "I'll try, but if I don't finish by Wed I'm just going to upload a build later"
 
LOOL. is that a boss of yours @EnricoSusatyo?
 
Him: "But it needs to be done by Wednesday"
 
p.s. Get what..?
 
"Well why don't you say something? Let me just stay in the office until 11pm."
Get a website and they want to embed it in the app.
 
LOL high expectations huh
 
1:34 AM
So passive agressive.
 
Hi @DuncanC, I just read your profile. I followed the link to your site but i'm greeted with a blank page :( . Do you know anything about that?
 
It's like saying: "Can you do it by x if possible? Hmmm you have to no matter what, I don't care if you can or can't".
 
@EnricoSusatyo whats your plan now, given the expectations.
 
I love those promoted tweets where it's like retweet if you like our stuff fav if you like the competitor's
Because yep that is an unbiased poll
 
@DuncanC, got it.
@DuncanC since youre on stack overflow atm, would you be able to take a look at this weird problem im having with property mapping not being associated correctly? stackoverflow.com/questions/25354211/…
250 bounty up for grabs ;)
 
1:39 AM
So glasses are cool
 
#swag
@EnricoSusatyo Can you do it by yesterday?
I talked to a bunch of tech advisors and it would be best if yesterday
That's the time when people are buying our product the most
Also if you can write code that allows us to remotely control the user's thoughts, emotions, and political alignments that would be great
 
@enricosusatyo exactly! and because nothing works at all
 
@Pavan upvoted for awarness
This looks incredibly cool hexraystudios.com/hexels
Can't wait to try it out with my Wacom
 
@mattsven upvoted for awareness? Huh i dont get it.
 
1:49 AM
 
ah gotcha @mattsven
Thanks buddy.
Hey maybe the rest of you guys could upvote for awareness too ;) ?
 
Wonder if SO chat supports vines
 
isnt it just a case if they support videos or not for it to then be displayed in chat?
 
Enrico do the ice bucket challenge
3
 
@Pavan true, but I mean parsing links
 
1:53 AM
parsing the links yep, for it to then display the video
 
nope
 
ah nope. it doesnt :(
Hey @Maximilian, its nice to meet you. So the SMS Signature+ app looks cool. Its good that you have an actual app on the app store!
 
He's also got Flow
 
an app yh? ill check it out
 
I have many apps:P Thanks for the compliment
 
2:02 AM
@mattsven Can you do it in 15 minutes? It's just one if statement right?
@Maximilian No
 
why not? You got no choice i just nominated you
so take that
 
user457812
@EthenA.Wilson No.
 
user457812
 
user457812
I sent them a response.
 
So formal
Reads like an English Major
 
user457812
2:06 AM
If it were formal, I wouldn't be using contractions.
 
@Maximilian No, YOU do the ice bucket challenge.
 
not until you do it
 
I am so saddened by the fact that all my friends watched the 1 minute video of ice bucket challenge from every single famous person, but they have no idea what ALS is.
 
user457812
I saw someone do the ice bucket challenge with a mug of pee.
2
 
i saw the one where a guy died
 
2:10 AM
So thus instead of doing ice bucket challenge I will just tell everyone I talk to to read at least ALS's wikipedia page.
@nil Some people might enjoy that.
 
user457812
I'm not one of them.
 
user457812
Also not a fan of ice buckets in general.
 
user457812
Or swimming.
 
I like swimming actually.
 
Shit the UPS keeps losing power
 
2:23 AM
Hello
 
looks like my decision to move to another job last month was a good decision
and I agree with enrico that loyalty is underrated
 
3:11 AM
I was stabbed lol
 
3:39 AM
I FEEEEEEEEEEEL GOOD! @EnricoSusatyo @Maximilian @mattsven and @EthenA.Wilson!! My core data problem was finally solved. Sheesh, check out the edit on the answer: http://stackoverflow.com/a/25395624/445312

man, Saul, he rocks.
 
4:07 AM
@nayoso What happened? But yeah I'm glad you now see what I meant.
@Pavan Why you ping everyone? 😡
 
4:31 AM
I feel good as well. I got some stuff working
I will feel better once apple fixes auto sizing table cells. they should work, its something they want to require for custom cells in iOS 8 now
and it doesn't even work for rotation, who messed that up
 
4:47 AM
I can't believe I'm writing a workaround for iOS 5.0.1
 
5:10 AM
gitignore.io !!!!!
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Yay!
 
@EnricoSusatyo There are two other indonesian staff that were called to japan too after I came to japan, and now they are sent back to indonesia without prior notice. One of them was working almost 3 years in that company
 
Shit many people build amazing things on minecraft
 
LOL
nayoso: yeah that is normal.
It really hardly matters how long you are in a company.
 
5:32 AM
I actually started looking to try to figure out how many carbs are in things I eat
I couldn't believe how high it was...
A simple rice bowl with beef: 90 grams....
><
 
My friend does that
And in his family they very rarely eat any carbs
That gets to a really weird point IMO.
E.g. when they cook pasta, they meant that they cook pasta sauce, and they eat the sauce without the pasta. It's more like chili.
E.g. when they say they cook some Asian beef/chicken/stir fry, they meant that they eat the stir fry on its own without rice.
E.g. they also haven't bought any sorts of bread for like a few years now
Btw borrrden that website is really awesome.
 
5:48 AM
Yeah, I'm trying to get a better balance of things
I work out more than most of the other people at my company
And they all eat cup noodles for lunch almost every day...
Yet some of them are still so skinny....it angers me
Are my genes THAT bad?
Or am I just eating poorly? That is what I want to find out
My wife is also concerned with nutrition, and makes pretty lean lunches
But actually we are both gaining weight. I think I am eating too much rice...
So when we store the rice now, I make much smaller units for the freezer
 
They are Asian.
Wait a second, almost all of them eat cup noodles for lunch almost every day? -_-
I didn't know it's that common.
 
6:04 AM
When Xcode's new visual debugging and simulator show different layers for views.. confusing
 
You know what's confusing?
 
Good morning everyone :)
 
Morning, Benjamin.
 
me?
Lol, and my device also shows after rotation the layer border is wrong size
 
I'm loving swift so far, I think I've finally gotten the hang of it.
The frameworks - not so much. Those are just APIs though
 
6:14 AM
I haven't got time to play with it much :(
In fact I've written way more Objective-C in the past 1 month than ever.
 
and now it works by disabling another views layer border lol
Ive messed with Swift a little bit. I love it as well. Cant wait to fully switch to it
 
@EnricoSusatyo well, you're an iOS developer, I'm new to it and just figured I'd learn it since it's cool and for a work project.
So while I think I have decent swift I'm mostly struggling with scroll views and navigation :D
 
Haha, yeah.
When I first started scroll views, table views, and navigation controllers are the hardest concepts to grasp.
Along with delegate pattern.
 
Well, delegates come very naturally to me since this is the fourth form of UI design I'm working with (After Java (ew), C# with WPF on Windows Phone, and frontend web (JS+CSS+HTML)). The way navigation works and scrolling are different so I'll have to figure it out :) Been fun so far.
 
6:44 AM
Hi All
 
6:58 AM
Omg I just organised a meeting.
Am I becoming a manager or something
I need to take a shower.
 
user457812
7:26 AM
Managing's boring.
 
Hey you're still alive!
You still hate Hg?
 
Hi
When my application did become active, I want to resume my movie in MPMoviePlayerViewController
Did anyone know, what are all I required to do the same?
@EnricoSusatyo @nil @AlbinJoseph @BenjaminGruenbaum
@nayoso Hi
 
7:51 AM
Don't ping people like that...
It's obnoxious
 
Hello All
 
8:12 AM
Yay 300 upvotes :p
 
8:28 AM
Yo
 
8:51 AM
Mernin'
 
I helped a lot of people on here today
not sure were my new found generosity came from
 
9:13 AM
How much vibration from a HDD do you think is needed to know that the headset is screwed?
Because i have the normal vibration from the disk spinning but then i sometimes have vibrations which seem a bit unhealthy
 
9:33 AM
I am not sure that is something that is best judged by ear
Get a utility to check the disk health
 
 
2 hours later…
11:21 AM
Does it even check for bad sectors on a HDD?
 
11:31 AM
a lot do
 
But apples Disk Utility?
 
oo, no idea
 
From what i've seen it doesn't look like it.
 
12:38 PM
Hi all
is anyone able to assist me with this please: stackoverflow.com/questions/25426564/…
 
geo
1:10 PM
Hi everyone :) has someone an idea what the statusCode "-50" of OSStatus want to tell me? It occurs when I set self-signed certificates in "GCDAsyncSocket" (via tlsSettings). found no usefull answer when asked uncle google
 
1:36 PM
hello anyone is hear
?
 
possibly
 
user457812
Whoever decided people should wake up and go to work at 6am is a sadist and I hope they suffered immensely before dying.
 
user457812
Probably did 'cause they were probably a farmer.
 
yikes that's early
why
 
user457812
'Cause I have to wake up early enough to shower, eat breakfast, make lunch, and otherwise get ready so I have enough to time to drive, find parking, and walk to the office
 
1:55 PM
Sounds fun
 
2:07 PM
So, I have content in iOS that takes X pixels in a View. I don't know in advance what X is, I need to put that content in a scrollView which is problematic since I don't know its contentSize. Any way I could do that?
 
Opinion needed: Having an array of delegates, is this a good idea?
 
Depends on what for
 
Well basically there are multiple view controllers that needs to update its views when certain delegate method occurs
 
I have an array of delegates, sort of and it works out fine for me
 
Alright.
Another option is to get references to the other view controllers from the one that implements the delegate method, and update the others.
That sentence was very confusing, sorry.
 
user457812
2:14 PM
Alternative: use notifications.
 
No. I am trying to avoid that.
 
user457812
If multiple things can subscribe to it, there's no point accounting for that controller-side.
 
I don't like notifications.
 
user457812
I do. Notifications are great for decoupling stuff.
 
2:15 PM
Is it really that common to use notifications for this?
If you managed to forget to remove observer and that observer is deallocated, sending notification will cause a crash that is very hard to track.
 
user457812
Application delegates are just wrappers around notifications.
 
Whereas delegate will fail silently.
 
user457812
So when you write the observer, add the code for deallocating it at the same time.
 
Would you say this is abuse or an OK use for reduce, can I improve it?
        self.subviews.reduce(CGRectZero, {(p,n) in CGRectUnion(p, n.frame)})
 
user457812
I already have code in Swift for automatically handling all of it.
 
2:17 PM
Is this better or worse?
self.subviews.map({$0.frame}).reduce(CGRectZero, CGRectUnion)
 
nil: I know, but other stupid people who work on my code can forget to do the same. This is what happens in some of the projects I worked on.
 
I wrote an observer today, took 8 LoC :D
 
Benjamin: Are you trying to find a CGRect that covers all your array of frames?
 
@EnricoSusatyo I'm trying to change a received UIView to fit all its content.
 
It's not hard to write observer itself, it's just that the consequence of not detaching it correctly is expensive >.<
Ah ok.
It's been a while since I use reduce function.
I'm a retired functional programmer, nil is still a current one.
Btw wouldn't view.sizeToFit() work?
 
2:21 PM
Basically:
self.frame = self.subviews.map({$0.frame}).reduce(CGRectZero, CGRectUnion)
Hmm, nope. it returns an incorrect result.
(0.0,1.0,320.0,568.0) // sizeToFit
(0.0,0.0,200.0,570.0) // correct result
 
user457812
I don't care if other people are stupid, I'm the one writing code, not them.
 
Wat ಠ_ಠ
 
@nil famous last words
 
user457812
If they introduce bugs, that just means there's something to point at as them being stupid.
 
That's a horrible way to look at things IMO, I don't care if other people are stupid, I care if the product ships and it works and if it makes the company money.
 
2:23 PM
Ugh, nil, trust me in your career you will work with at least one stupid people and will have to clean up their shit.
 
If I can code it pretty, that's a huge plus.
 
Pretty sure you don't have to write your own logic for that.
But anyway if you end up having to write it, I like self.subviews.map({$0.frame}).reduce(CGRectZero, CGRectUnion)
It's easy to understand even for beginner functional programmers.
 
@EnricoSusatyo Works like a charm too
 
And Benjamin I would rather hire 2 people who can write nice code and get things done, than hire 5 people who gets things done personally.
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People who get things done are usually the same people who write nice code.
People who write ugly code almost always get trapped in their own incompetence after a few weeks when they end up with spaghetti and they can't get out because they were "moving fast" so they don't have tests. I find it both saddening and hilarious.
2
 
2:28 PM
Yeah, because writing ugly code is not scalable.
Exactly.
That's exactly my personal experience when writing my first app :P
I do find Swift and functional programming will reduce a lot of that though.
If they use it properly of course.
 
I'm probably overdoing it.
 
Have you seen nil's code? Lol
He's on a 97 days streak on GitHub, half of it Swift code.
Right, nil?
 
No, not functional programming. My code is full of stuff that's way more "functional". The second thing I did is define operator >>= :P
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA
What did you define >>= as? :p
 
I always end up defining it, I did it for Writer for Either (enums in swift are infuriating though and that throws an IR error :/), defined it for Optional.
@EnricoSusatyo As bind
 
2:30 PM
Ah... Ok.
 
Oh, I defined it for promises too, that was really helpful. And Tx is a real life saver.
 
Do you have a GitHub or Twitter account? I'm interested of following those.
I think I will still be writing lots of Objective-C in the next year.
 
(>>=) :: m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b, if you've ever used promises in client side, or optionals in swift - you've probably used that without realizing.
 
I may only have like 1 day a week doing Swift, but I want to jump on it quickly.
 
I'm benjamingr on GH, I mainly go to monitor stuff on Bluebird, I don't have twitter since I don't want to get spammed :/
 
2:32 PM
Ah, I see.
Oh well, it's half past midnight on this side of the earth.
I think I should go to bed.
Goodnight all!
 
goodnight, thanks
 
 
1 hour later…
3:39 PM
How do you find Objective-c, Benjamin? I remember you were asking couple of questions few weeks ago to nil.
 
user4203923
4:00 PM
Hi
 
user4203923
Someone use CocodaPod in its projects ?
 
7:49 PM
Hello
How do you set the delegate of an UIPercentageDrivenInteractiveTransition
"It relies on a transition animator delegate—a custom object that adopts the UIViewControllerAnimatorTransitioning protocol—to set up and perform the animations." -docs
But they don't say how to set it
 
it doesn't have a delegate
the docs say " It relies on a transition animator delegate—a custom object that adopts the UIViewControllerAnimatorTransitioning protocol—to set up and perform the animations."
 
A transition animator delegate I mean
 
The object that adopts the UIViewControllerAnimatedTransitioning
No, it has the UIViewControllerAnimatedTransition protocol
I'm not even hooking this up to a view controller
I'm just doing this so that I can use an animation on something that's not a UIView, without having to implement my own easing functions
 
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Q: Proper way to implement a custom UIViewController interactive transition using UIViewControllerInteractiveTransitioning Delegate Protocol

Alfie HanssenI'm interested in a concise example of how to create an NSObject subclass that implements the UIViewControllerInteractiveTransitioning protocol to manage a custom interactive transition between two UIViewControllers. Ideally in response to a swipe gesture. Something akin to the iOS7 default inter...

 
8:05 PM
Thanks :)
lol what
What does this even mean lo.
 
user457812
8:36 PM
I'm at work. On the beach. Yep.
 
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