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12:34 AM
Wooo make file behaves itself.....time for .... Zzzzzzz
 
 
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1:55 AM
@RichardJ.RossIII Wow! I've seen you around on the same SO questions but never in here ^^
 
2:10 AM
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A: NSDateFormatter can't parse '1988-04-10' to NSDate instance in iOS 6 . Is it a bug?

vikingosegundoSunday, 10. April, 00:00 was the switch for DST in shanghai that year. According to the great WWDC 2011 Video: Performing Calendar Calculations this can lead to undefined behavior. In the video Rio de Janeiro is chosen as example for the very same reason

OMG How does this person know this...
 
2:26 AM
There was a similar answer by Jon skeet IIRC
Chances are if there's a problem with a date, it has to do with local time zones.
Here's the one by skeet: stackoverflow.com/a/6841479/427309
 
That is an insanely upvoted answer haha!!
@OMGPOP You have write access, be sure to read the rules or face the wrath of all the owners (nil in particular)
 
2:50 AM
@borrrden anyways please help me
 
Don't ping me for no reason
Surely you saw that because you read the rules right?
 
3:23 AM
@OMGPOP Access revoked for being weird.....asking for help and then leaving
 
Looks like it wasnt his lucky day, huh?
 
3:52 AM
Nope, but I didn't put him in the ban list
 
4:09 AM
hey @borrrden
anyone know how to move a scroll indicator down?
In UIWebview i added a uinavigation bar, and it follows the scroll of uiwebview, but the scroll indicator goes behind the navigation bar, looks bad
 
That means your scroll view is going underneath the bar
 
yes:P
because i added it to the scrollview
 
added what?
 
a uinavigationbar
 
OK I found what you want
but I'm not going to tell you because all you need to do is take a quick look at the docs
 
4:14 AM
i just found 1 fix for my problem but comes with another, i added the navigation bar to the frame, and added a content inset to the webview scrollview, but the navigation bar starts and stays above the view unless i scroll. if i let go it goes back upD:
?D:
which doc? scroll or web:P
 
scroll
 
scroll indicator inset?
 
sounds good right?
 
i guess!
 
but it might be something else
 
user457812
4:17 AM
You know what sounds good? Telling some marketing nobody to piss off.
 
if it is not that, then you won't be able to do what you are trying to do
???
 
*you are
 
I don't think nil was talking about you....
And yelling at him is a great way to get booted from the room
 
user457812
Indeed.
 
user457812
Though if Max wants his write access removed, I'm more than happy to oblige.
 
4:20 AM
noooo:P i was kitten
 
meow
 
meow ya doin?
(thats what my shirt says:P)
and @borrrden it worked:]
 
Lol so the lesson once again is
Docs have lots of answers
 
eh:[ this still sucks, apple needs to fix web view a lot
 
Why?
It does what it is supposed to do
 
user457812
4:22 AM
gist.github.com/nilium/17ba2e238277aa6d0557 ← I was referring to this, from earlier.
 
If you don't like it then you are free to write your own view that parses and displays HTML
Good luck with that though...since HTML has a history that is probably almost as long as your lifespan
 
well i hate the way it scrolls, but everyone wants a fix for stuff, like zoomin in pages you can see in other tabs (since their all in 1 view) and some sites like duckduckgo the navigation bar for them is 44 px down from top of screen because of the way i do scrolling
so this fixes it, except when a page loads, the navigaion bar goes up and the web view scrolls to its top. i dont like that:P i like navigation bar always at top.
safari does it too i guess, bit annoying
 
@nil is that meant to be read from top to bottom or bottom to top?
 
user457812
Email format. Bottom to top.
 
If you want the navigation bar always at the top, then separate it into two views...why does it need to be inside the scroll view?
 
4:24 AM
The following it on:D
oh and because i want it to scroll, but like if your at the top, and click a link, its still at top, but then when page loads it scrolls to the uiwebview top of the page... i think it should be fixed to the navigation bar could be fixed. i can make it scroll once the page loads, but scrollling up and down every page load is more annoying
 
sigh Our app has ads
 
:P
I have ads too
woop! an extra $1 this month
i can buy a chocolate egg now
mooo
 
5:17 AM
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5:38 AM
Max
 
@Charan What the ? I don't wanna join the recycle bin haha
 
Who has sent you the invitation?
 
You did
Maybe by accident
 
Nope, it was a bug.
We need to inform moderators about it.
 
5:56 AM
He has previously sent invitation to someone else too. He does that and says its bug.
 
OMG! why are you guys behaving like this with me?
 
Hahahaha I am not behaving in any way
I am just confused ^^;
 
user457812
@AmberRoxanna You've got write access, read the rules, etc.
 
I behave rudely with all my friends and make their fun but they still love me
 
@nil ok
 
user457812
6:14 AM
Some try to tell me I'm not one, but I know the truth.
 
I know that you are the one :)
 
(not a real complaint haha)
 
user457812
6:32 AM
Well, I didn't move it, so who knows
 
user457812
The sree works in mysterious ways.
 
I am charan, not sree.
 
user457812
You know I have to do it now that you've removed it from your name.
 
@_@
 
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6:36 AM
Any app can be subscription based?
Whatsapp CEO says by the end of the year app will be subscription based. I do not think Apple will allow such thing.
 
Depends on the type of app
 
No I mean currently are there any subscription based apps in App store?
 
I don't think so.
1 message moved to recycle bin
 
No
But if Apple could make money from it, they might consider it
 
Well it is true that 1$ for an app and that for too lifetime is little costly considering regular updates to be released by developer.
So without Apple approval subscription is not possible currently, right?
Customers won't be happy to pay 1$ every year. So they have to think over before moving into that direction.
 
6:49 AM
We will apply for an update to our app tonight
it's funny since it hasn't even been released to the store yet
 
We've got the same rejection report from the apple second time even after healing the first one, Funny.
 
We had a similar situation, they sent us a rejection notice that said please respond to these questions. So we responded and they sent back the same questions again.
 
lol
 
7:06 AM
yep, Shit Happens!
 
yes, but you can get on the phone with them
that sorts it out usualliy
I have a much weirder story
a mate of mine has done a betting app for a betting exchange company
sports betting
which is completely legal in the UK
they wanted to release it to all the AppStores, but with a geolocation check for the UK, also accounts could only be opened with a verified UK address
initially Apple has rejected it because they couldn't log in, so couldn't go through the review process
so they made an exception for a certain test account to be able to log in from anywhere and gave that to Apple
then they rejected it asking for their gambling license
they tried to explain several times they don't need a gambling license in the UK, but Apple kept rejecting it
about the 4th submission it went into 'In review' status and stayed there for 6 months!
they tried to email them, call them everything, but Apple only said if it is in review then they will just have to wait
in 6 month my mate's contract was over, and the company didn't pay him because he couldn't release the app he made
 
Oh! sad
 
by the time Apple has rejected it again for the very same reason: 'no gambling license' he almost went bankrupt
 
Did they limit the sale of the app to the U.K.?
(U.K. app store)
 
They've rejected it, but it was there mistake.
 
7:20 AM
not initially, as they wanted it to be available for UK people around the world, after Apple has complained they wanted to set it to UK only, but couldn't change anything as it was 'in review' indefinitely
keeping it 'in review' for 6 month is not a fair game from Apple at any rate
 
They know that betting is not legal in USA, even then they are reviewing it there.
and how can they ask for gambling license when it is legal in UK?
 
exactly
and mind you there are hundreds of apps like that
which are only legal in certain countries and not all of them limit the availability by sales
of course Apple's mantra is 'just because there is an app in the AppStore being able to do something doesn't necessarily give you the right to do the same'
but that will only create an unequal playing field
big players get their app through no problem
I've worked for IG, which also deals in betting, financial betting, and our apps went through without a hitch
of course that's quite a big company with connections and money
there are Apple employees with IG accounts
there are similar horror stories about Apple floating around
 
They need to improve there reviewing procedure.
 
The reason I ask is that even if it is legal to do in the U.K., you would need a license in order to market it in other countries
But the 6 month "In Review" thing is weird
Probably someone messed up and forgot about it
 
7:46 AM
Good morning guys
 
morning
is it difficult to learn Brazilian Portuguese?
 
I have no idea, but i know portuguese sounds hard..
 
not to me no
 
I have a friend that lives in portugal but when he talks portuguese it sounds hard to learn, but that might just be me.
 
what's your native language?
 
7:58 AM
Dutch and English
Well dutch and English in tongue xD
My english writing is horrible ^_^
 
:)
with those portuguese might sound hard
I'm fairly good at learning languages
I know a little in about 6 or so languages
 
Well I understand and speak german aswel and a bit of french
 
spanish, german, ivrit, very little french, italian, russian
 
and english xD
 
no I don't speak English, no
:D
 
8:01 AM
Liar ;)
 
and neither of these is my mother tongue
 
Dutch, English, German, un petite peu french and i understand spoken japanese for like 50% of the time
 
now speaking Japanese is cool
but for that I'd need to move there for a while
 
I know 7 indian languages.
 
:)
 
8:03 AM
Yea I understand japanese, my speaking of japanese is pretty bad
 
All writing, speaking and reading.
 
Are those dialects or actual languages? Because dialects are cheating ;)
 
I can understand a bit of spanish as well, coz' i have a habit of watching spanish films :p
 
no, they are probably languages of their own
there are a lot of people and languages in India
the biggest concentration on Earth
well, natural concentration, I'm not talking about London, where you'd find every people and language that exists
 
I have never been to London...
 
8:06 AM
The people in india speak 21 languages.
 
Need to go there soon
In the netherlands we have 3 native languages which is more than you'd think for such a small country.
2*
 
Where do you live? Amsterdam?
 
I can speak English, walk English, run English, etc
 
:)
you are Silly
 
Nope I live in the south-eastern part of the netherlands
 
8:08 AM
You can eat english as well silly.
 
Halfway between Eindhoven and Nijmegen
 
Ah! ok
 
Pretty long drive from my work... Might move to Arnhem soon :)
 
The best country i've ever been in my life is Japan.
 
I thought you were moving to London ;)
 
8:12 AM
Nonono, go != live
my girlfriend will kill me...
 
:)
she will eventually anyway
why not move to Appsterdam then?
 
Tokyo is a decent city, the people are good - Theft safety - upgraded technology and the tourism is awesome.
 
Hmmm not sure, I like this part of the Netherlands for now, lots of IT companies with not too many programmers around
Tokyo is on my todo list aswell
 
I speak native English and fairly fluent Japanese
 
If you know japanese, you will love Japan.
 
8:14 AM
how come everyone seems to speak Japanese here?
 
Can you get me a job over there borrrd's ? :)
 
Cos japanese is awesome
 
I'm free now, i don't have any girl friend. I'm a free bird :)
 
Oh and Charan, what's wrong with being called sree?
Mar 12 at 6:04, by sree charan
And Please don't call me sree guys. Call me charan or sree charan.
 
sree is usually a female goddess name in india or you can say it as a female name and i don't want people to call me with that name.
and charan sounds manly :)
 
8:18 AM
Allright
 
Anyway, let me make my friend rage as an owner, he is helping many people over here.
 
nono
shit
can I undo that?
 
lol, why?
you don't like to be an owner.
 
I don't want to be owner
I own too much already
 
8:19 AM
ok, your wish, i will remove then.
 
please do
 
Charan has removed rage from the list of this room's owners.
 
thanks
and also thanks for considering
 
ha ha, thats comes with some observation.
 
I'm on this quest to try to minimise my ties with everything
 
8:21 AM
Hahaha that's awesome. Rage, you are my hero :)
 
cheers :)
 
we observe the helping people for some time and then if they are good and following rules, we make them owners.
 
nice, but can you ask them first? :)
 
But we think that they'll like it.
 
that's an assumption and we programmers all know where assumptions lead
 
8:22 AM
Most do, rage is just different :)
 
to exceptions
 
Thats human nature dude, who don't like it. only some special people like you.
 
and exceptions to crash
 
unless they are catched properly
 
thanks anyway :)
yeah guess he @tried but I @threw
then he @caught and @finally I got out
 
8:25 AM
hahaha
 
Once I've removed myself as an owner after a small shit with the other owners here, then this guy @borrrden has added me back. I hated this room for about 2 months.
 
don't get me wrong I'm not offender or anything, I am actually flattered by the trust
 
No problem, i like the people like you.
 
well you see I'm trying to get rid of my things, less material possessions, less ties
 
Well if you have a nice laptop you need to get rid of... ;)
 
8:27 AM
That saying is ludicrously offensive
 
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Ok, Moved :p
 
If my friend saw it she would punch you in the face
 
I've given away most of my clothes and selling my only flat, my father died recently and there is a considerable inheritance after him, but I revoked all my claims for his properties to benefit my brother
 
I made a casual joke involving the word rape one day and she punched me in the stomach
 
you mean silly ?
 
8:28 AM
she would...
 
No, this is a friend I went to college with
 
Oh! ok
 
@rage That's admirable, I doubt i could do that
 
@dragon112 it's easy, it's just a decision
 
Are you going to live in an old abandoned house and start a fight club?
 
8:30 AM
But I would be unable to make that decision
 
@borrden intriguing option, but no, just rent
 
Fight club? I can't imagine rage as a fight master.
 
Oh, that option is a bit more normal
 
@Charan why?
ok true, I've never hit anyone
 
I imagine you to be much to nice for that.
 
8:31 AM
apart from when I was in a full-contact martial art competition
 
coz' I know that you are old enough to teach fighting.
 
I did karate when I was little, kung fu later, but nowadays just tai chi
 
tai chi seems relaxing
 
it's hard like shit!
 
I also participated in karate as a child
 
8:34 AM
yes it's very relaxing, but very difficult
 
In college I did a bit of judo
 
they have this posture called the tree-stand
 
and I tried out aikido, but it hurt so I gave up
 
they do it for hours at a time
 
I hate wrist locks
 
8:34 AM
you feel like you'r arms are going to fall off
 
I value my hands/arms too much to get into that kind of sport
 
Judo was fun though
I never thought I would be able to throw a 220 pound man
But with the right technique, it is easily possible
 
these days I mainly just throw exceptions
with the right technique that's easy
 
I like Japan.....where girls get impressed that I can lift a 7 year old child
 
I did judo for a couple of years too..
Hahahahhaha
I'm at work, don't make me laugh :p
 
8:37 AM
well do your work than instead of chatting!
 
Hahaha my girlfriend's older sister's son climbed all over me
And everyone was like "ohhhhhh you so stwong"
:D
 
'stwong' ! lol! :)
 
But... But...
 
Well actually after a little while it wasn't so easy anymore haha
 
I can lift a grown woman easily I'd be a superman in Japan then
 
8:39 AM
I'm convinced having kids will be a replacement for the gym
Yeah, especially since women in Japan weigh about...45 - 55 kg on average
I suck at benchpressing but even I can bench that much :D
 
Lol that's nothing...
I'm double the lower end of that
 
:)
I'm 114kg
and average built
 
114 kg?!
That's heavy mannn
 
I'm just big
 
Well I'm fairly long 1.94 or something
 
8:41 AM
I'd be like a giant in Japan
 
I'm a semi-fatty
but I'm only 81 kg at the moment
 
A friend of mine is going to Japan for 1 year. He studies 'japannologie'.
 
(179 cm)
I was a total fatass when I graduated college...even then only 92 kg
 
he will get laid a lot I presume
 
Ony 81 Kg?
 
8:43 AM
114 kg is either really built.....or fatter than you think lol
How tall are you?
 
1.9
 
Well he is quite handsome. And I dont say that very easily.
 
My target weight is 72 kg
 
but I'm not sending a full figure picture you pervert
 
Hahhahaha
 
8:44 AM
Darn
 
Just a body shot then? ;P
 
Lol. Mine target is too 72. I was 62-63 at Feb start and lost 6 Kgs in one month due to illness.. :(
 
It's getting warm again
so I can start bicycling to work again
It's 16 km each way so a good ride (killer hills in the middle)
 
Well that's not an option for me..
 
I wish I could bike to work, but I work from home
 
8:45 AM
It's about 60km one way
I'd have to leave at like 5 am
 
do you take a train then?
don't tell me you drive
 
I drive.
Train takes around 2 hours, car takes 45 min
 
I asked you not to tell me
you don't listen
 
But i did.
 
I hope your car is electric or at least hybrid
or runs on reused code
 
8:48 AM
Where are you from Dragon? I presume China from name.. ;-)
 
Nope i'm from the netherlands
 
he's from Holland
 
Reading Core Data Performance
 
And it's a hybrid
 
good boy!
 
8:49 AM
Dutch
great.
 
I work for a company that provides software for all the electrical network companies in the netherlands
so it's not really an option to drive a non-electrical car
I'm on the waiting list for the Tesla Model S :)
 
niiice!
once you get it I need to go and see you
 
Hahaha might take a couple of months still... They are slow as ****.
 
I'm considering training to be a renewable energy engineer
it takes only a year and costs £25 pw
 
pw?
 
8:52 AM
per week
 
ah ok
Well I know a couple of those here in the netherlands
I have been to the windturbine park 'noordoostpolder'
 
when I move to NZ I want to do R&D into renewable energy production
 
That's cool stuff, lots of work in that sector these days.
 
do you know the chimney principle?
do you have a chimney in your house?
do they come every now-and-then to check it?
 
no, no and not applicable
 
8:56 AM
they check it by opening the hatch on the bottom part and lighting a match
to see if the wind pulls the flame into the opening
because if you have a tube that has a difference of elevation between it's two ends there is always going to be wind in it due to the pressure difference
now you take one of those old unused factory chimneys, the really large ones
 
Hmmm but why would you need someone to check it if it;s that easy
 
everyone who has worked with one knows, there is a considerable upwind
you just need to put a turbine in there
and there you go, electricity
 
Hmmmm well that sounds pretty logical...
 
the wider the tube the better, the bigger the difference in elevation the better
 
But is it enough to keep the turbine going?
 
8:59 AM
now imagine if you bury a tube in the side of a tall mountain with a hole at the bottom and a hole at the top
about 2m wide
with an elevation difference of say 300m
 

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