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1:25 AM
o/ ola
 
o/
 
1:40 AM
sup McAdam hows your interview
 
\o
 
\Ø\
/Ø/
 
It was good. I have another one on Wednesday haha
 
2:10 AM
Cool!
hope you will get the job
 
2:26 AM
me too! haha
 
I love having a chat app
 
@LawGimenez o/
 
2:51 AM
So far my FB bot idea is working great
 
what does it do
 
o/
 
well
It responds to two commands
!/test and !/help lmfao
 
Does facebook allows that?
I once wrote a twitter bot and I got blocked after a while :(
 
Really? Idk there's a chat API out there I found
idk what to make it do maybe this is pointless
 
3:10 AM
totaly guessing - but the chat api is probably quite useful for that new Business chat they launched - so you can have customer service reps use facebook chat as live chat options
 
that kinda makes sense
didn't our bot have a weather command? I can't find it in the github
 
3:33 AM
/weather
(i don't know how this bot works)
 
3:49 AM
Adam's being used as reference on my SO answers now
 
@Learning as I said the other day this room requires a higher Answer/Question ratio.
 
This guy still has a lot to learn.
 
lol
 
4:14 AM
I mean, I know he's got a lot of ground to make up but if I see improvement in his AQ we could reconsider
but since the last thing not only did he not give any new answers but he asked one new question ha
 
He's ok
 
I'm so tired right now
why
 
I've been chatting with him
 
Really?
 
yeah
 
4:16 AM
Well cM trusts you so I'll trust you. @Learning can you request access again?
 
He hasn't been help vampire or anything. Mostly he seems very complimentary and proper.
 
So Adam learned something new about the user.
Ok this is getting worse than his dad jokes.
 
besides he is clearly going to provide an infinite source of puns...
 
That's fair, but from my point of view, where I have nothing to go off of but his AQ ratio on SO it looks like help vampire ha.
Foamy, do you really think someone can give more puns than me?
 
Yeah, I expected that too. So far so good though
and no, I don't think that
I would never...
how dare you even insinuate such a thing.
really though I meant his name could provide an infinite source of puns.
 
4:21 AM
oh
yeah
 
I'm not even tired of the keystore puns just yet.
 
definitely
mauker
I just saw this
 
what, what?
 
gah chat is being dumb
I just saw your keystore pun thing lol
lmfao I love this bot code
args.codify( 'StackOverflow: Could not access page' ),
				'This unicorn has killed itself because of you',
				'Accordion to recent surveys, you suck'
@RaghavSood I lost it when I found 'accordion to recent surveys'
 
4:42 AM
lol
 
My bot has a long way to go but I can respond to basic messages
and I can communicate to openweathermap
so that's cool
 
4:58 AM
nice!
way more impressive than my chat bot, which doesn't exist.
I have SMS bot that will send you pictures of cats if you send it an SMS. Does that count for anything?
 
that's pretty cool
I'm going to sleep. Night, Foamy!
 
5:18 AM
Night McD
Yo All o/
 
5:34 AM
Me too actually. Night
 
Night Foamy
 
 
2 hours later…
7:21 AM
\o mornin!
 
o/
 
what's up in germany ahmad?
 
7:45 AM
not much
oooh I'm getting the keys to my new apartment today
and you?
 
that's cool
not much either, preparing for this afternoon's show ( three king parade )
and fixing a crop management app
 
\o good morning
 
\o
 
8:05 AM
\o
 
I fucking hate windows...
 
hola
I fucking hate to work right after holidays...
 
true, true
I just opened the explorer and I can't scroll the left pane... even after clicking on the scrollbar, the damn pane is not scrollable. I have to click into the pane first to be able to scroll... UX nightmare!
 
let's generalize: "%user_name% hates to work on Windows after holidays" :0
 
why you using windows tho
(win 10 is still a solid 7/10 tho)
 
8:20 AM
windows 10 is a solid 5/7, not more
working on windows 7 enterprise here, but hope to get it to switch to linux asap
bigger company, slower changes
 
win 10 is a good OS
"explorer" as the "file explorer"?
 
uuuh you're doing android dev on windows now? :|
 
seems so. it could be worse. :P
 
I hope I do it only this week, I hope next week to be on xubuntu again
 
so, if soemeone's itnerested
9
Q: How can I dual-boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu on a UEFI HP notebook?

Michael HoffmannI've got an HP Pavilion Touchsmart notebook that came with Windows 8. I've upgraded to 8.1, and now I want to dual-boot an Ubuntu distribution with Windows 10. When dual-booting with Windows 8.1, the Windows Boot Manager always took priority, even after installing GRUB. What do I need to do to ge...

pretty long answer
 
8:33 AM
interesting, I had no troubles installing windows 10 first and later xubuntu with UEFI
 
i haven't tried yet
do you reccomend me xubuntu?
i want a fast environement for pennApps, my laptop is old and laggy when playing the emulator / doing heavy cpu load
 
low resources are best reason for XFCE, so xubuntu would be your OS to go
there might be others as well, but if you are familiar with the ubuntu system, use xubuntu
 
cool. i liked ubuntu 10.4 and lower
the new ones* have crappy UX in my opinion
worse than windows 2000.
*(last i tried was 12.0)
how did you install it alongside uefi? just plug in the liveCD ?
 
unity and gnome3 are pretty bad :( but xfce is fast and pure
yeah, fresh installed windows 10 on one ssd and linux on the second, might be the reason I had no issues
 
will make a partition just for linux then
 
8:39 AM
you probably need more than one
 
yeah, will have to remove dust from my old ubuntu notes.
 
I recommend a swap partition when you have low RAM capacity
 
been 6 years since i did infrastructure and server management
16gb ram
^_^
(but i'll make a swap anyway)
 
I thought you said low resources? :D
 
I've developed on Android on Windows ~2 years, no problems at all. only device drivers are fucked sometimes, everything else is fine
 
8:40 AM
the cpu is a bottleneck
first generation core i5
 
ah I see
 
:(
 
with 16gb ram you can skip the swap completely
if you ever use 16gb ram, you have other issues :D
 
i do, for rendering purposes
every pc in my house has 16gb just in case i need to do homework.
i'll install xubuntu this afternoon then
i'll let you know ( or the news will do) if something goes wrong
spanish dev dies on implosion caused by a wrongly compiled kernel, it divided by 0
2
 
good luck bro
Just scream
 
8:48 AM
someone has a samsung s4?
 
My pops
 
ok
 
Why? Gotta test it?
 
i have a bug only with samsungs s4
i can't retrieve image from SD
but we don't have a s4 here
 
What bug? Ive been using S4 dev for a year
hmm familiar
 
8:51 AM
tell me you know what's goin' on XD
the app toasts the route
but gets a null when trying to retrieve the file
after some fixes
(before it was everything null)O
 
I remember it uses a different SD path, cant remember what method
Or internal storage
 
damn
 
Gotta look out also on HTC devices
 
9:11 AM
Hullo
 
heya
 
9:33 AM
50
Q: Windows 10 icons appearance changed

Lucius HipanA cat slept on the keyboard and all my desktop icons are now looking like in the picture : Three lines of text description to the right of the image. How can I fix it to see the normal behavior ( one line below the picture) ? Edit: Ctrl + Mouse Wheel doesn't help

 
I lol at it
Then saw the solution and knew it was serious
 
Awesome :)
 
9:51 AM
eidt: works in without eclipse, nvm
 
About to install xubuntu :)
 
cool
 
10:18 AM
o/
 
"programming is the art of pressing three times the compile button and recieving three different results on the same snippet."
 
@WarrenFaith 15?
 
15.10, yes
 
what's better, torrent or mirror?
@LawGimenez can you do me a favour?
download this with your s4 and let me know if it works for you :3
it should toast you the image route and , in case the bitmap retrieved is null, a caps-locked message.
but it should never, ever be null :(
 
10:49 AM
everything that should not be null is for sure going to be null
 
alas, if anybody wants to download it by interest, it just takes a photo,& lets you delete it from memory &/or switch it for another one. it's part of a longer sofware, i didn't even try to manage screen orientation changes.
 
 
1 hour later…
11:54 AM
telegram.org/blog/inline-bots. I really like giphy service, thanks to Telegram
 
12:16 PM
breaths a sign of release as his bug fixing release seems to have gotten rid of the huge 1/5 people crashing problem
 
graeme, still using toasts?
 
Yup, the Snackbar implementation is currently disabled :P
I'm going to have to write it in much better than I did originally
I went for a wholesale replacement approach at first, which snackbars are not at all suited for :P
 
Does anyone here know a lot about the navigationdrawer in the google io app? (github iosched or something like that)
 
I recreated it in an app at one point, what do you need to know miva?
 
Someone else made that part in our app. I know it's based on the iosched example. When I add a new item it goes to an entirely white screen with the buttons of the activity still clickable but not visible. It happens before the code I just added.
some weird bug or something. But maybe it's supposed to be like that and I just forgot to implement some part.
I basically just want to show a dialog after clicking the drawer item. Not start a new activity (that works but I don't want to start another activity)
 
12:42 PM
What sort of list are you using? The list in the navigation was so broken I ripped it out and replaced it with a custom view.
That was much earlier in it's life so imagine it's better than back then, but i would imagine it's still got more than enough problems.
 
i would recommend the materialdrawer library these days, very easy to add in.
 
Which list do you mean exactly Graeme? I have an ArrayList<Integer> for specifying the items in the drawer, and 2 int arrays each for icon and text resource id's. And a View array which holds the individual navigation drawer item views.
 
o/
 
Gimme a sec, I'll look it up
Hrm, can't quite remember what I was using that didn't work
I replaced it with a plain NavigationDrawer where I added a manual list as per this link: developer.android.com/intl/es/training/implementing-navigation/…
But i remember there being a "built in" list for navigation drawer, that the one that didn't work, can't remember what it's called off the top of my head.
Ah! Are you using NavigationView?
That's the one I used which didn't work
 
1:13 PM
Thanks a lot Graeme, I'll check it out!
ola Mauker o/
 
Ola miva o/
 
Nope, don't use NavigationView. A search only results in NavigationView being used in generated code. The items are just View with inflated layouts
 
Wait, what about NavigationView?
Anyone here ever tried do display CardView in a GridView-like layout?
 
1:30 PM
I never used cardview
you should make a maukerview
 
How's it going Mauk
 
I'm tired :(
 
Mauker - yup
 
1:40 PM
Ohh, how did you do it?
 
Miva - Let me know if that helps, you shouldn't have to do anything different if your using a custom content in a NavigationDrawer. The only problem I had was onResume() the title disappeared :P
Mauker - Same as you do any other recycler view, just use a Card as the content?
 
I'm exhausted
 
But then will it fill the entire Activity? What if the grid part need to be displayed after a "header" of information?
Something more or less like this:
 
A CardView is just a FrameLayout with a fancy background
 
anyone using AndroidAnnotations in AS?
 
1:50 PM
Yes -.-
I'm popular today ^-^
 
how did you configured it, can not find anything helpful
 
Go into File > Settings > Plugins >
If you can't find it there (which it really should be) then here is the documentation github.com/excilys/androidannotations/wiki/IntelliJIDEA
Only had a look at it before binning it. Also used Dagger and Butterknife.
Binned them all, only use Lombok now. Everything else I just get on with. Too many edge cases to those tools.
 
So Graeme, what's the best approach for that layout? GridView, RV? Any other solution?
 
2:08 PM
This one time I got code to compile on the first try. Then I started editing the template
 
2:21 PM
Hey Raghav :)
 
yay, got my hacktoberfest t-shirt :)
 
For what problem?
 
me?
 
For a CardView in a Grid? Depends what you want it to look like, like i said, CardViews are just fancy FrameLayout
Yus :)
If you want it to look flash and cool and material design, use a RecyclerView with a dynamic decorator thingie.
 
I want it to look like material design yeah, and like that mockup I've sent up above
 
2:34 PM
\o
 
o/
 
o/
 
The new chat UI for mobile is cool
 
Sup guys!

When you design the UI. What layout do you use in order to make it as standard as possible to look the same on all mobile phones?
Any tutorials or blog posts about the issue that is up to datE?
 
2:47 PM
RelativeLayout
almost always. Really the only time I use anything other than Relative is when I want the screen broken up by percentage which you have to use LinearLayout with weights for
or PercentRelativeLayout but I didn't know that existed until very recently
 
@TheLittleNaruto screenshot?
there's nothing new for me
 
@FoamyGuy ye that's what I thought. But how do you make it work with relative? I got it all looking nice on my galaxy s6, but when trying on friends nexus 4, stuff started to merge together
 
all the layouts should look find on android phones, it's just how you structure it
 
13 mins ago, by TheLittleNaruto
user image
 
2:51 PM
on the N4 are there UI things that are too big or small? Or is it just an issue with positioning? Without seeing what it is doing it's tough to offer any specific advice.
 
Any tips when it comes to relative? I started with the element on the top than working downwards pushing them apart using margin
 
Can you post a screenshot of your layout? Or even a mockup of it?
 
hmmm..... ARGH
 
"started to merge together" makes it sound like you are using Drawables and that they are too big for the N4 resolution thus are starting to touch or overlap. If that is the case you could probably resolve it by providing smaller drawables into a smaller density bucket directory
 
o/ I'm back!
 
2:55 PM
eski o/
 
welcome back! o/
 
\o eski
 
@aschattney write access here requires a min 100 rep. Almost there. Feel free to request again when you get there. room-15.github.io
 
Mauker - you sent a mockup? Sorry, didn't see, have Ad blocker turned up to full on this page ;)
 
How it should look: http://imgur.com/5jvemSS and looks on for instance Galaxy S6
How it turned up on Nexus 4: http://imgur.com/K44Leur
@FoamyGuy
 
2:57 PM
@Graeme Oh, okay. You can see it here: i.stack.imgur.com/o7jGR.png
 
Mauker - You can make it look like the screenshot using the recycler view decorators :)
I paused the adblock. Must more colourful in here now ;)
 
What I basically did was adding the title, pushing it down from the top. Adding textview that is bound to the title and so forth. Pushing everything down using marginTop="xDP"
 
Jakob - Use a LinearLayout
 
@Graeme alright
 
RelativeLayout can cause overlaps (as you've seen) especially if you don't enforce the positions relative to each other rather than relative to a single point. Since your entire layout is basically one long list of views with a background, simply use a LinearLayout
 
3:00 PM
TLN that's just a mockup right?
 
When is a good idea to use RelativeLayouts? Any specific case?
 
when you have a lot of nested layouts
@TheLittleNaruto I still have the old version :(
omg that was really unexpected though
 
@JakobMillah do you have android:layout_below="@id/someId" on your views?
if you put that and reference the ID of the view above it should force them not to overlap.
 
@FoamyGuy Not really no. I guess binding it to 2 points is a good idea
I see
 
Honestly, I tend to avoid RelativeLayouts and use wrapped LinearLayouts. You technically shouldn't because it's not as efficient. But i always end up refactoring to LinearLayouts eventually anyway to have it look perfect on all devices
 
3:03 PM
you can then use marginBottom (or Top) to get some extra space if you need it
RelativeLayout doesn't "not work on 10%" of devices though
Relative layout works fine on all devices.
 
@Ahmad Ohh wait! You have to opt in first! that's in beta test!
 
Your right
 
@TristanWiley No!
 
Where? How do I get it!?
 
@TheLittleNaruto how do I do it?
 
3:04 PM
I can't find the beta
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 51 mins ago, by balpha
@UNIKITTY2.0 @rekire paste this into the javascript console on a chat page: $.post("/users/new-mobile-ui", fkey({ value: true }))
3
 
If anything LinearLayout makes the code a bit nicer IMO because complex layouts are broken down into more logical chunks
 
Damnit I'm on my phoneee
 
how's the battery charge?
 
3:06 PM
OMG
 
I agree about LinearLayouts foamy
 
You can finally star something!!!
 
Thanks TLN!
 
Holy fuck.
 
3:06 PM
NP :)
 
Ahmad can I send you my login? XD
 
Why? does the activating not work for you?
 
They're planning to make chat version app
 
waaaaaaaat
where does this sudden change come from? any meta post about it?
 
I'm working on a chat app with Anubian, websockets and shit.
 
3:11 PM
Found that in tavern chat
 
Thanks for the info guys!

When it comes to the layout problem on the picture, it was a bug :P
 
user image
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Ah.. the spiral rule...
 
3:26 PM
C is teh evil
 
C is where I belong
And C++ (;
 
C is what I do homework in
reminds me I need to do my homework :(
 
#FackSchool
 
Ahmad, same
 
I, in a very technical sense, know c/c++
In practicality I see working c++ code and the guy who's at the controls in my brain goes on strike.
Line by line, find, actual code, nope :P
int r& = i and int* r = &i makes screaming noises in my head
 
3:45 PM
ugh :/
that looks so ugly
 
\oo
 
but that is just bad naming.. He should learn a lesson or 2
Looks like my old teacher coding.. He sucked balls.
 
I don't actually hate C that much, it's a nice, small, simple language. C++ is large, overly complicated, ugly beast which executes faster than anything else
and has Turing-complete templates
 
Classy.
 
But the bigger issue with both is that they attract people who don't know how to develop a project just because they learned a few algorithms in school/college, and making a mess in C++ is easier than in anything else I know
 
3:54 PM
Making a mess in c++ is awesome
 
Ir is said it is easier to shoot yourself in the foot with C but in C++ it is a little harder to do so except when you do, you probably won't recover from the wound
 
if you don't need to continue working in that mess :D
 
I totally believe c++ is useful. But it should be used in teeny tiny self contained blobs which do the bits of processing which require speed - and Java should be used to hold it and the rest of the program together ;)
 
I have a friend that would die if he read what you just said Graeme haha
 

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