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12:10 AM
grr, frustrating when people leave 1star ratings with no text
probably a competitor
 
I haven't actually had any 1 star ratings :D
 
is your app in a competitive space?
 
Nope, and it's only had 23 ratings
What is your app?
 
there's tons of similar apps
 
It is overwhelming at first
When you open it
You can't swipe between the pages
Oh lock swiping button
You gotta handle that way better :P
I also still don't understand why I'm using this
Or what channels are
@trevor-e heh I got really negative there
 
12:22 AM
lol
 
This is a really really well designed app
 
there's a few things I'm cleaning up
 
I love it
 
couldn't find an unlock icon for the toolbar
thanks, hopefully releasing a new version soon
 
You should handle that better
 
12:23 AM
the UI for my competitors is really ugly which is why I made it in the first place
 
I don't have a G+ account anymore, can't review rip
 
that's OK, it will average itself out
 
12:47 AM
Suupppp morning!
Yo! Is 6.0 official?
 
?
 
yeah
Slated to be released
 
The name is official
What do you mean is 6.0 official?
 
Right, that one
I mean you know, you guys already using it
 
12:59 AM
It's not released yet
We're using the developer preview
AFAIK
 
Im downloading it now, it looks official in the SDK Manager
No "preview" written or anything, I could be wrong though
 
Pretty sure it's just the preview
Androids developer website says "At the full release of M later in Q3..."
So, by September??
> Note: Developer Preview 3 includes final APIs and near-final system images available by both download and OTA. At the full public release of Android M later in Q3, final system images will be available by download only, so you'll need to flash manually to your test devices.
 
OTA?
 
Yeh maybe next month
 
1:10 AM
I forgot what OTA is but I think it has to do with getting your updates wirelessly
yeah lol it's over-the-air
 
I guessed that, but what does that mean?
What is it
 
Haha yo from Philippines!
 
o/ cM
 
1:16 AM
On the meta too wow
 
Hey, Mac!
 
Ohhh wrong channel
 
Yeah, even better that it was posted on meta and not the main site :D
 
How's it going?
 
kind of...meh
Would like to work on finishing up my app now that I don't have the kids but I think I'll be lucky if I commit and push my changes tonight
 
1:20 AM
Haha!
I am almost finished writing my functional spec, just trying to mock up one more screen for now.
 
Now that I don't have the kids?
 
An update for CC or for the hackathon thing?
Yeah, they are with their mom now. Just me and the dogs
 
Oh gotcha
@McAdam331 is CC the name of your productivity app?
 
Actually this is behind door #3.
No, CC is short for my finance tracker Cash Caretaker
 
ohhh, nice! When does the door open to reveal the mystery app?
 
1:23 AM
When I'm convinced that the mystery app actually has potential.
 
Lol, fair enough!
 
Not fair enough
Ideas are better shared
We can help you find it's potential :)
 
Yeah but a dev has the right to keep his idea private until he feels he is ready :P
 
I didn't say he has to share
I'm saying that reason isn't fair enough
 
can't know if it has potential unless we validate it :P
 
1:25 AM
^^ and that
And that sharing is good
 
like @AnubianNoob said
 
Well it's just a productivity app, but I'm trying to find ways to make it better than the hundreds of productivity apps that are out there.
 
Maybe we can help you?
 
Well, you guys kind of have a point
I've thought about the same but haven't found a decent enough way to make one stand out
I actually want to mostly redo Keep and make it slightly better. Just a couple things about it bother me
 
I'd like to mirror the layout from Keep. I know that's terrible, but they do have a really good layout with the staggered grid and such.
I mean, I know that's terrible to want to copy another app.
But I think there's a lot of other things that can be improved on for sure.
 
1:29 AM
Copying certain things in ways isn't terrible. I mean, that happens all the time
 
It's not terrible to want to copy
Mimicry is the highest form of flattery
 
I think the layout is good until you get more than around 3 lists
 
Stealing is sharing!
3 lists?
 
3 Lists
 
What do you mean?
 
1:30 AM
What bad about it when you have that many lists?
 
My app looks great with three lists.
;P
 
Maybe a couple more than 3
 
Well I mean, if I made an app with staggered cards and a FAB, is everyone gonna be like "wtf this is keep?!"
 
Or...maybe I don't know what you are talking about right now
 
1:31 AM
the app I'm working on now is a copy lol
 
^ mic -> play sound icon
 
although I made it way better
 
@eski is that linear?
 
Awesome work Eski.
 
That interpolator feels wrong
 
1:32 AM
is what linear?
 
The animation interpolator
 
In other news, I heard David Breneisen is doing some good work
 
Lol.
 
the interpolator is AccelerateDecelerate
 
1:32 AM
We now know exactly who you are
 
And we are coming to your house
 
Oh really?
 
codeMagic, the Keep image I'm thinking of is not how Keep actually looks on most phones.
 
In Alaska, of course
 
Hmm maybe it is... But it is really fast
 
1:33 AM
I'll explain
 
please do
 
I hear he's a fictional blues singer from the future
Ooh he's gonna explain!
 
I found this image in the Card guidelines, and everyone seems to think it's Google Keep, but my Keep doesn't look like that. No one else's does either, but no one knows what app that is.
 
what version phone do you have?
 
Keep actually looks really ugly now that I'm looking at it.
6.0 Dev Preview
 
1:34 AM
CardView looks different on 21+
 
I'm trying to keep all the transitions down below 300ms
 
Ah.
 
did you set elevation?
my cards looked ugly until that lol
 
They have elevation by default, no?
 
don't think so
 
1:36 AM
mine looks like that....
 
That's almost how it looks for me without the colors and FAB. Though, the colors might be customizable, haven't tried
 
Here is a screenshot from GrizzHacks that doesn't have elevation.
Anubian, it looks the same as far as the staggered cars go, but the rest is very different.
 
I've given up on CardView because of backwards compatibility with the elevation
same with FAB libraries
 
I should test my app on an older version.
 
I just draw them with the shadows myself now
 
1:37 AM
The staggered shit doesn't work much better on Android then it did on Win 8, as far as I'm concerned
 
cardview is pretty easy, just a rect with a shadowoffsetlayer
 
I had no problem implementing a staggered list..
I'll share a screenshot in a sec
I mean it can be kinda weird it just depends on how your long your lists end up being
I don't think it's that weird, IMHO. Don't mind the bland cards.
 
I doesn't look bad
 
yeah looks ok to me
cards are too rounded for android IMO though
 
5dp radius?
I think the styles might say 2dp but I feel like that's not even noticeable
 
1:51 AM
I think 2dp is the standard
 
Lemme try it
 
The way you have it looks kind of "bubbly" like iOS
not a big deal if that's what you're going for I guess
 
It's not lol
2dp makes it look like a box, but I guess it's better than the perfect squares like they have in Keep now. Screenshot
 
it looks good to me
 
If I have Eski's approval, I'm moving forward! ;P
 
1:59 AM
waves magic wand of approval
@codeMagic Cool, we can party. :D
 
2:15 AM
How do y'all market apps?
 
I don't. That's why I only have 25 installs.
 
6 months and one facebook post, and I have 100 current and 350 total installs.
I finally think I have a decent app tho
 
damn that's impressive
my app is shit
 
I've been doing nothing and getting ~20 installs a day
will start marketing once I push out my next feature
 
Well 6 months on the store, about a year I've worked on it
 
2:20 AM
how the hell
wow I feel like total crap about my app now :( It must be really bad.
 
mine is a really common search term
 
yeah seriously? That's pretty crazy
I'm like the 10th result if you look up the name of my app :P
19th actually
 
name?
 
You're third
QuickNote
 
your issue is that Google/Microsoft rank above you which will be tough to beat
 
2:23 AM
Yeah.
 
if you look up "Quick Note" I'm not even in the top 100
ya
 
If you search checkbook you'll find Cash Caretaker about 150 apps down. :'(
 
you need to fix your UI/icons
they aren't standard size
should be 24dp
 
What's wrong with them?
 
2:25 AM
way too big, no padding
 
Too big or too small?
They should have padding?
 
TIL <!-- colorAccent is used as the default value for colorControlActivated,
which is used to tint widgets -->
 
search for "clearance"
@McAdam331 yup, you can use the new theme preview editor to check them out too (AS 1.4)
 
Oh I'll have to check that out. I don't have 1.4 yet I think I was too lazy to update.
 
2:46 AM
Not as great in practice
Honestly because of the size of the window, I think it's good the way it is right now
I don't see a way to make it better
Dang it's the 1 year anniversary of HexLogic: github.com/anubiann00b/HexLogic
 
3:02 AM
that looks way better, nice!
 
3:26 AM
@RaghavSood the market is stagnant right now
i mean no ones buying esp in NCR
only blore is stable sort of
^ waste your time here
 
3:48 AM
5G "GiGA LTE" released in Korea
 
dang
 
 
1 hour later…
4:57 AM
o/
 
5:27 AM
Yo Shinobis !
 
6:05 AM
\o good morning
 
6:21 AM
yo
 
6:49 AM
o/
 
\ o all
will try AS 1.4 at home
 
7:17 AM
o/
 
7:35 AM
\o Morning
 
morning matty
 
7:46 AM
Good morning
 
anyone here with marshmallow preview that could help this poor guy's problem with poltergeysts?
 
No sorry Cpt
 
3
Q: IndexOutOfBoundsException after repopulating ArrayList (Marshmellow only)

irvanjitMy setup is as follows: inside my onCreate I initialize an ArrayList as follows: textList = new ArrayList<HashMap<String, String>>(); // unrelated code ... if (isConnected()) { new DisplayTextTask().execute(sectionId); } and the AsyncTask fetches text via HttpURLConnection(), parses the...

it's a damn weird error.
 
how can I get maxX position value of view while dragging using onTouchlistner
 
i haven't played enough with dragging to provide you with a correct answer.
sorry :(
 
7:55 AM
Yeah that is strange behaviour Cpt
 
\o
so the labor pains started saturday evening... still ongoing... we will hit the hospital for a checkup in a few hours... I am already tired, so is my wife
let the fun begin :)
 
Hi Warren. Is she far from pushing ?
 
well the check by her midwife on sunday evening said that the labor pain is at the beginning to prepare everything. So we will see what the state is later today
 
Sounds like it's going to be a long day for you both. Good Luck, hope it's as stress free as possible for you both.
 
thanks :D
 
8:10 AM
Morning
 
good luck warren, have fun being a father!
years of programming overnight have prepared you for this moment.
 
HAHAHAH yeah sure :D
 
boy or girl?
 
Cpt, maybe some weird behaviour with the hashmap's and each one in the ArrayList needs clearing, before clearing the Arraylist? Dunno, just throwing things out there ha
 
Good luck Warren!
(I'm always slightly shocked when my peers are having babies)
 
8:18 AM
haha
 
we don't know. The gender will be the final surprise :D
sorry Graeme, didn't want to shock you in any way :D
 
@Graeme after more than two of mine or my girlfriend's friends ( 20-21 average age) started having babies, i'm unable to get shocked...
cool, surprise!
 
@.@
Having babies is what grown ups do though...
 
I am 32, I am grown up... I hope
 
i've been already told there will be no diapers on our house before PhD is finished.
 
8:22 AM
@WarrenFaith good luck warren, get ready to be happy, you do not want to miss a thing :)
 
I'm 31 and I'm not a grown up!
 
31... I wish I could be that young again :)
 
Well, hope you have a very happy and healthy baby Warren!
 
thanks :)
 
8:37 AM
do anyone know how can I get maxX position value of view while dragging; using onTouchlistner?
 
what ever maxX of view means...
 
maximum X value of a view; like myView.getX() return view's current X (i.e. start of X position) I need maximum X value
 
oh that explains nothing
myView.getBounds().bottom should work
 
if android's view 0,0 is top left, and not center, i'd do a container.getWidth()-draggableview.width().
if you want to restrict it inside a "box".
same for verticality...
 
I have tired myView.getRight() that return X position but while I drag view inside onTouchlistner it's value remains unchanged
 
8:44 AM
i believe that during dragging the object can't be tracked, only on "drop" it updates data. might be wrong, though.
 
my scenario is like this; I have a view and when user move that view by onTouchListner I need to check if top right of view reached to device center or not; if it is then I need to perform some action.
we can track X by calling getX method while action is ACTION_MOVE
 
o/
 
back after 4 days at a wedding, so stressful, back to reality though
 
a 4 day wedding, wow
 
8:55 AM
indian wedding?
don't they usually go 3 days?
at least pakistani weddings go 3 days
 
If you've changed where the XY is (which you must if you've written the code to move it) then getting it's XY + width is easy.
No? I don't understand why the answer to the question isn't obvious. Please post on SO and give us the link?
 
question:
how can i transform a bitmap into a File without saving to internal or external memory?
i just want to show it via picasso :(
 
You mean, how to you display it without writing it to a File?
 
picasso accepts only Uri, File or Resource as param.
 
Seeing as a File is a wrapper for memory
 
9:03 AM
and i have a Bitmap retrieved from a base64 String.
 
I see your issue!
 
i would like to avoid having to write the file, but File() requires a path as parameter
so i'm kinda stuck
 
Uhm.... don't use Picasso? :D
 
then i would have to crush my brain to make the damn imageview round
 
I have a hazy thought that you can write to SharedPrefs and pass along the location as a URI... but I might be pulling that out of my ass :D
Making a round image view is easy!
Want me to send you the code to do it?
 
9:06 AM
sure it's easy? all i have found before using Picasso was via masking
 
Would you mind putting it on paste bin if you don't mind sharing, sounds interesting
 
Mine puts a white circle around it
But you can just remove that bit
 
ok
sounds easy
don't know why we aren't funding this and there's instead a ton of tutorials using masks and XML drawables
thank you a lot.
 
Glad to help :D
 
9:29 AM
so misrable outside, rain rain rain
 
Seems about right - which is why I always have to work with a "todo" list written next to me
 
i've had to create 2 managers and 3 new class models just to test the imageview thing
and the login process
which i'm currently doing
XD
 
I always forget that you can see a file at a specific reversion with git show <revision>:<file-name>
need to remember that.
git diff just doesn't look right with xml files
@RED_ you're in the UK. what else do you expect? ;)
I guess your one week of summer is over
 
9:45 AM
I have a 2d game which loads its tiles location and types from a txt file. On every game loop, go through an array list of tiles calling tile.update(). there are 822 tiles in the list. Does anyone have a method for checking the touch bounds for only the tiles displayed on screen? going through 822 tile objects on every loop seems like a lot of work. I want to click a tile, and if the type is fire, it is swapped for a water splash animation and disappears.
 
On your "view translate" finish, create a temporary 2d array describing the touch properties of the view
 
If that is meant for me then I don't understand haha. I shall continue to google
 
wooho. works perfect Graeme.
 
So, I assume that you have some of those tiles on screen at one time?
And some not on screen.
Whatever method you use which displays some "on screen" and some "off screen"
At that point, create a simple representation of what sprite a click will hit.
So if your view is 100 x 100, create a 100x100 array, where lets say x[0-10]y[0-10] are all references to tile 0.
At which point you can just say, onClick() { 2dArray[getX()][getY()].onClick(); }
 
hmm, I need to think about this for a minute haha
 
9:55 AM
This moves the processing of "hit areas" to your "view translation" thread, and then your clicks will be super snappy and quick because they don't have to find out what they've hit
I don't know "why" i've added "quotes" in that "sentence".
 
haha
thank you though
 
Let me know if you want me to explain better
 
and now i imagine graeme as an austin powers villain quoting everything with the fingers
 
True dat
 
if my screen width is 800 pixels, is it possible to draw something at 900 pixels, so it is drawn off screen?
I think that is what's happening, which seems like a waste of time
 
10:01 AM
or i believe so, because you can put negative margins
yup.
and it keeps drawing even if fully outside
 
right ok
so i might aswell say in my paint method, if(tile.X <=800){ drawTile();}
instead of drawing everything
 
instead of 800, device width?
 
sorry, what do you mean?
oh ofcourse
yeah i get you ha
 
:p but yes , dounds like it should work
but i have to say that "drawing outside bounds" is an old school techinque
to have things already on memory
and it's not "that" bad practice
on the 2d gaming industry
 
my problem is that the tiles are updated and drawn in loops, but to check where on the screen has been touched requires me to get the touch events list and loop through each event checking if the area touched is equal to the area fire is being displayed. So i would have a loop of 822 tiles for every touch event and a loop to update each tile and a loop to paint each tile. All that over 822 tiles seems like a very lot to do haha
 
10:09 AM
Please go learn OpenGL :P
You don't even need to code in it - but it'll teach you about dirty areas (lol) and View Frustrum and culling
 
I was going to but that seems like so much to learn, i get the drawing of shapes and things but it is very complicated ha. Do you have to draw say a circle for the head then overlay with image? I don't think I will get around to openGL anytime soon ha.
 
Just learn the theory - it'll really help
(Your right, it's properly backwards - it's hard hard hard hard hard to learn - because it's so basic and us "young" programmers are used to having that stuff buffered by lovely java language)
(by the way, just checked that link, damn that's not an easy resource to learn from ;))
 
haha
I have been through a little openGL tutorial and got as far as creating shapes on screen ha
 
10:25 AM
Anybody in here played with RecyclerView.ItemAnimator s?
 
No sorry
 
:/ The DefaultItemAnimator class used as standard would be really helpful if it was documented
 
10:47 AM
CircleCi don't have the preview SDK installed so continuous integration is useless now, having to rollback my own project :(
 
11:14 AM
o/
@TristanWiley I actually owe you a thanks. My jokes are so terrible, no one should laugh at them. But you do, so you boost my self esteem! ;P
 
11:31 AM
:D
lol
 
ooh great
the map SDK dev team contacted me by mail
found my error, told me what the error was, and , even better, sent me a demo .java MapActivity class with //TODO to copy the working methods to my project.
will test at home
 
11:45 AM
google maps?
 
nah
a custom SDK that lets you build your own maps
with navigation and thingies
 
11:59 AM
Joke Time, you may have heard this one before
Four men are waiting for their wives in a marital ward.
They're all very anxious about becoming a father. After waiting some time, the doctor appears and congratulates the first man.
"Congratulations, your wife had twins!"
The man was relieved, but was a bit surprised. "What a coincidence," he told the doctor. "I work for the Minnesota Twins!"
Some time later again, the doctor comes out and congratulates the second man.
"Congratulations, your wife had triplets!"
The second man was even more surprised. "That's funny. I work for the 3M tape company!"
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