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12:31 AM
Good riddance, Carl
I'm not winning this election but at least my name is out there for next time
 
how many get elected cM?
not many people have a better candidate score and I feel like 1 new mod a year isn't enough
 
@prudhvi Welcome. Please read and follow the room rules room-15.github.io
Dave, only 3 this time. It changes depending on how many they feel they need
 
ah
 
I have a chance but I don't feel like it's a good one with a couple of the people I see out there this year. And there's 7 days for people to nominate themselves still
The good thing is that not many mods have much Android tag experience.
 
Hello users, I have a doubt regarding the new sliding tabs in Android. If I use sliding tabs will my app be compatible with Android 4.1?
 
12:43 AM
We'll I'll vote for you after subtly sabotaging your attempts to get mod
 
Well that's...something :P
 
Tristan is in the apartment.
 
later all
 
Later
 
1:00 AM
See ya, Dave
 
The example in the docs is using import android.support.v4.view.PagerAdapter and `import android.support.v4.view.ViewPager so I would say so
 
So you mean that works on older android versions(like 4.0 and up) too?
 
Thank you @codeMagic
 
dives into the large world of Android development
 
Toolbar disappeared on SDK 22?
 
 
4 hours later…
5:55 AM
Yo People
Raghav, can I vote now ?
 
 
3 hours later…
8:54 AM
\o
@Ahmad I was sick with the flu the complete last week. Felt pretty bad, still not fully recovered
@codeMagic ^
 
o/
 
9:46 AM
o/
 
@RaghavSood either I'm dumb, or there's no "vote" button :c
Is nana in the candidates list?
 
Voting starts in 10 day, I believe
Nope, but @codeMagic is
 
nana, if you decide to apply, I would vote for you
:P
 
PC - because he's old?
 
10:11 AM
@TheLittleNaruto and he's throwing a Windows Tablet?
 
10:22 AM
dunno , it looks like a hammer.
Has anyone faced TOP_LEVEL_EXCEPTION because of this error -> java.exe finished with non-zero exit value 2 ?
 
10:43 AM
0/
 
@TheLittleNaruto nope… because I don't have java.exe :P
 
:O
I get it! You're not Windows user. :|
 
n1 :P
 
11:00 AM
yes
 
11:13 AM
Duplicate BuildConfig.java conflict :|
 
java.exe XD
 
ohio-gozaimas Gem-san
 
Ohayou gozaimasu
Gomen :P
 
11:33 AM
おはようございます!お元気ですか?
 
Wow! I tried the steps mentioned here -> stackoverflow.com/a/18537553/1944896
And now my project is not there at all! :|
I can see project's gradle script and settings.gradle file only,
Let me try synchronizing it with gradle.
Now I can see whole project, but still BuildConfig being a pain in the neck.
 
12:09 PM
@CarlAnderson that's a pie, not a pizza
 
pizza pie
 
a real pizza needs to be flat. just like our beloved Earth
 
Now I want pizza :(
 
I want life :/
@Gemtastic What is life?
 
@berserk Shrek
 
12:15 PM
R.I.P. life
 
rest in pizza
 
@Guilherme Sounds sticky but warm
 
@Gui is pizza life?
 
it it's pizza from São Paulo, then yes
 
Cheese blanket and fluffy bread pillow
In your opinion, is the android course on Udacity (by google) the best and fastest way to learn android?
 
12:21 PM
I started learning android from a youtube channel.
 
Googling it and reading the main page, I can see that android is not one of the main courses (that show up at the top) and that I need to register.
developer.android.com/index.html requires no registration, so as sarcastic as I am happy to be, it's not the fastest
"Approx. 10 weeks" WOW that is a long course
 
12:40 PM
o/
 
@CurlyCorvus So what would you recommend?
I already know plain java
 
1:04 PM
Morning
 
morning
 
I have no experience with that course, I was just commenting about how it's quite lengthy.
 
Good morning, everyone!
 
It does seem to be a good option if google really did create it. Google knows best what one should do and what one should avoid, and the course seems to cover everything you need to know to call yourself an android dev.
morning
 
@SargeBorsch I am not powerful enough yet.
 
1:18 PM
morning Sensei
 
Morning TLN
 
a bug had been PITA since this morning, Sensei. and I came up with a worst solution that you won't like. :|
 
hehe, show, don't tell.
 
bwaaa o/
 
Bonjure! OcuS
Is that correct ?
It's "Bonjour". lol Even OcuS doesn't know. poor OcuS!
 
1:44 PM
Bon jour*
 
Bun jewer (I guess, the only thing I can say in French is :"Fuck Argentinian pizza.")
 
how do you say that?
also, looks like 33,3% of the single phrase you can speak in French is actually Italian
:P
 
Are there any academic android courses? All I ever see are non-academic companies offering courses. Even my uni gives a discount for Android courses given by an outside company.
 
Stanford has an iOS course. Maybe they have Android too
 
1:57 PM
@Guilherme I just said it, right there. Is my accent to strong?
 
iOS would be enough, I just expected more academic interest(?) in mobile technology
 
hello
 
@WarrenFaith Welcome back! Sorry to hear that. Hope it runs it's course pretty soon
 
2:08 PM
\o morning gentlemen
 
yo cM
 
Morning Jlin!
Hi cM.
 
Good morning
 
morning Magic
 
2:12 PM
Morning neighbor
 
morning Mr
 
"who is your neighbor?"
That is a trick question
 
Me. We live next door
 
your house has two doors?
 
What house doesn't have two doors?
 
2:22 PM
good question cM
 
a bunker
 
@Guilherme the presence of a course about a proprietary & locked down & totally censored OS looks wrong to me…
Android at least allows the user to install software not approved by one corporation
 
2:36 PM
funny guys in that video
 
2:49 PM
o/
 
\o
 
o/ - Still not programming?
 
How is everyone?
Nop
 
Socially awkward :D
 
Pretty good, finally fixed one thing I have been working on for a while yesterday.
 
2:52 PM
I have spent a considerable amount of time drawing
 
When do you leave again? It would be silly if we haven't met once.
 
o/ Emm
 
Friday
 
hi emm
 
I'm having a big and nasty pimple on my forehead
 
2:52 PM
This Friday?
 
Yeah, this Friday I am going to Guatemala
 
and it's bleeding
 
But I will be back in NYC on the 15th
 
Ahh, ok. But then you're still coming back here right before you go to southern south Canada.
Ok, good.
 
2:53 PM
I leave to STL on the 27th
 
Standard Template Library?
 
Can't wait to get the fuck out off NYC
 
It's not that bad :)
 
Do you want to know why?
 
Alright tell me.
 
2:54 PM
Because I am currently sitting inside my car waiting for the street to get cleaned
 
Heh, yeah. It's your fault though.
 
And after it is cleaned I need to be inside my car until 12.30pm
 
You're not rich enough to have a car in the city.
 
It is my fault to own a car in NYC that is correct
 
If you can't pay for a garage, don't have a car.
Why don't you drive somewhere?
 
2:56 PM
Because when I come back I will have no place to park
 
Yep. Or you can drive around couple block for 20 minutes and maybe you will get lucky.
 
No thanks
 
You could also park it in some other small city and take a subway to it when you need it.
 
It amounts to about the same time
 
Maybe I should check out LinkedIn more often. Apparently, someone sent me a message about a job in December :P
 
2:58 PM
or you can sell the car
 
I am unemployed now, this is my only responsibility in life
 
buy a bicycle
and have some extra money
 
He needs it though to move back to south south.
 
thats why I live in jersey...plenty of parking (
 
trains, buses?
 
2:59 PM
(and property taxes) :(
 
petey, where do you live?
 
clifton, nj
I take the local bus in,...so 40 minute nap each morning.
 
Really? You're close.
 
I lived in Highland Park, NJ
 
3:01 PM
So you work in the city.
 
do console.time(…) and console.timeEnd(…) work in Android WebView? (KitKat to be precise)
 
orb
 
bor
 
rob
 
@SargeBorsch What are you trying to do precisely? Timing method calls?
 
3:02 PM
someone merged the android-wear tag into android
 
yes, in JavaScript
 
\o bb
Also, the survey results are up; blog.stackoverflow.com/2015/04/…
3
 
\o MrEngineer
 
o/
 
I feel I am going to drop my Nexus 6 sooner rather than later
The material of the back cover is slippery
 
3:05 PM
@Emmanuel put some rubber on it then ;P
 
I am going to buy a case for it
 
who has an old phone that they can give me?
Emm?
 
I think you can find a pretty cheap one at ebay
with like 30$
 
Emm, just use some sandpaper to make your N6 less slippery. FTFY
 
no... I have the money, my parents won't let me buy one - even ones like $30
 
lol
 
@Guilherme it's bonjour (one word)
 
@jyoon won't they find out eventually that you have a cellphone? how is this different from buyin one?
 
I can say that I got it as a gift
 
3:30 PM
At the first place, why are they not allowing you a cellphone lol?
 
idk
I'm like the only android developer without a phone
 
you can say that you got it as gift anyway
don't you?
 
hahah you are not alone !
 
I don't have a bank account/paypal account or any sort of billing method + they'll find out
 
just get rid of any documents that say it's your phone
 
3:31 PM
@jyoon which phone you have now
 
and buy in an "offline" store
 
I don't have a phone
 
LOL
 
Where do you live?
 
oh man give that man a phone already
 
3:32 PM
I can give you a phone, btw
but it's Android 2.3
 
used to have that back in korea
i regret tearing it apart
it's not even android
@SargeBorsch dammit! my minsdk is 11
 
How do you score at this reading test ?
 
Guys, does anyone know how to reference android:background="?android:attr/selectableItemBackground" programmaticaly?
 
I have seen something similar
it's not simple, you have to get an AttributeSet or something like that, then extract that value and then "recycle" it
 
3:40 PM
ahhh, I thought there was a faster way than this: stackoverflow.com/questions/9398610/… , ok ok ^^
 
you think it's a fucking game? this is Android!
:P
but, this of course can be simplified by writing some more clever code
and probably sacrificing some performance
 
it is so weird tho, I mean why it does not allow you to have a simple reference like R.drawable.selectableItembg ...
 
So apparently if you uninstall our app on an iOS device then reinstall it, if you were logged in before the login is still stored in Keychain and you're automatically logged in when you open it up again. Is this normal behaviour for an iOS app? =\
 
We do iOS here as well? :O
 
Some of us are 'multi-talented'
Or some such nonsense.
 
3:54 PM
Well, that's a given, but I didn't know an entirely different phone os was onTopic here :P
 
You haven't been here very long, I see :P We don't really have a topic per-se. If we did, it'd mostly be "raging about stuff". See codeMagic for more details.
 
I joined yesterday so, no, I only have the rules and the tags to guide me :P
But thanks for letting me know ^^
 
the topic is ass bourbon
 
And my car won't start....
 
4:00 PM
Push it!
 
"2 as farmers" XD
 
Yeah, that is one option, but I will lose my spot...
How can this happen with a 3 year old car...
With less than 25K miles?
 
I noticed yesterday that the "window elevator" isn't working on the passernger side. The car is 2½ years old :/
I haven't even gone 15000 metric miles in it :/
 
o/
hi Warren, haven't seen you in a while
> 48% of respondents never received a degree in computer science.
> The more things change, the more likely it is those things are written in JavaScript with NotePad++ on a Windows machine (theme: dark) using Git, and tabs instead of spaces.
 
4:15 PM
What do you count as a degree?
 
bachelors, masters or doctorate?
 
yeah, I had the flu last week, still feel groggy
 
Ok :)
 
What article is that Carl?
 
WarrenFaith's survey
22 mins ago, by WarrenFaith
http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2015
 
4:23 PM
not my survey!
 
it was your link :D
 
true
time for me to go, cya later!
 
cya warren
 
Hybrid native if the above cannot fulfil all requirements
 
Bye, Warren
 
4:32 PM
 
Wow that survey was awesome
I did not know there were that many self taught devs
 
I think my first time was around there too.. Then I tried to improve my reading speed and 20 minutes later I am 500+ (i.imgur.com/zGtr3ua.png)
@Emmanuel I thought we were all self taught..
 
@Emmanuel I'm starting to feel self-taught >_>
 
I thought most people on the workforce working as software devs had CS degrees
 
most work out there doesn't require real thinking
 
4:43 PM
people in the workforce != people coming to StackOverflow
 
I think people here are people that actually like programming, not the drones.
 
most of the times ordinary code monkeys like me would do the job, no need for cool contest winners
 
Contest winners are actually bad for a reall job, I linked an article about that the other day.
 
nope
it's real jobs which are bad
 
Not really.
The job is what it is.
How you deal with it is what defines you.
 
4:47 PM
isn't for example Google Maps developed by contest winners?
 
I can really say I loved going to work
 
This statistic actually comes from Google.
 
or really complex real time game engines
 
4:49 PM
> Someone should sponsor a programming contest where, for full points, you have to go back and modify your code 6 months later to meet new requirements.
 
XD
 
> Or, a modified version that doesn't require the six month wait. One half of the team has to write the code, and then immediately the other half of the team has to implement the changes.
 
there is a faulty assumption that people who write code fast can't write it slower
 
You're looking for a person with diametrically different requirements.
 
but… maybe I was not precise. I mean, winning contests is not really needed, what is needed is the ability to solve these clever problems, not necessarily very quickly
 
5:00 PM
Hello peeps. I have a convention question. Would you ever use get prefix in java for any method that is not a getter
 
Example?
If it isn't getting anything then no
 
for example if have string that I want to format. Can I have a method called getFormattedString(String strToFormat)
or should it be formatString(String strToFormat)
 
depends on your preference
but get is normally used with encapsulation
 
Yeah I'm just asking is it better practice/naming convention to have the "get" prefix only reserved for getters?
 
I name things get if I'm returning something. So if getFormattedString(String strToFormat) returns a formatted string it's fine, imo
 
5:04 PM
i think it's fine
 
fair enough
thanks
 
Something inside me keeps pushing me to play dota, I must resist
 
Maybe you just need to go to the bathroom? ;P
 
Already tried bro, didnt do the job
 
Hmm...
Maybe it's the inner procrastinator?
 
5:13 PM
@cylon you don't have the required reputation (100) to join this room. See the room rules
 
I had to google procrastinator, I quess you are right ..
 
5:41 PM
@carl then what about me ;)
I was at 87 when requested for access here ^^
 
I'll have to kick you out then ;)
the 100 rep requirement was only put in place a couple weeks ago
so you probably got in before it was implemented
 
:)
 
yushi is probably the reason we put that in place
Mar 23 at 23:33, by Carl Anderson
@yushi you've been given write access, please read the room rules as your next step.
 
> Author: Carl Anderson
Date: Wed Mar 25 14:17:40 2015 -0700
Adding Rep requirement
 
I was just kidding :/
 
5:56 PM
we never joke in this room, so you'll have to take that into consideration moving forward.
 
I felt like someone joked here, so I came. Who joked? There are no jokes or fun allowed in here.
Respond, you who joked.
 
yay we hired a guy for ios, you'll all soon have my undivided attention like you so desperately crave
 
:( thankyou sir
 
:D
 
6:05 PM
@codeMagic btw do you remember the conversation yesterday, where I raised a flag on a post that had been deleted via the OP's other question? The moderator did manage to recover the deleted question ^^ So it is actually possible to flag a deleted question by referencing it by the OP's username - I think that moderators have access to the entire history
 
@Ghanshyam you do not have enough reputation to chat here. Please see the room rules for details.
yushi, you may need to order one of these to help yourself out: sarcasmdetector.com
 
@Try_me34 I knew that mods could do it. Actually, any 10k+ user can see deleted posts. I meant that I didn't know if you could flag that particular post. But, yes mods see all
Glad it got worked out
 
Carl: lol :p
quoted for one ;)
May delivered soon :D
 
hopefully you paid for express shipping
 
:xD
I don't do job yet
Is that avatar yours?
 
6:16 PM
I am the person pictured in my avatar, yes.
 
:)
 
@CarlAnderson Got one a few years ago. 10/10 would buy again
 
6:39 PM
🐖
 
6:54 PM
I just printed so much paper it doesn't all fit in the envelope. Fuck yeah immigration documents.
 
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